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MSI HD3870 OC and catalyst OC tool
« on: 24-March-08, 20:38:34 »

Ok so I wanted to see how much further I could push my 3870 so I raised my core clock to 880mghz and mem clock to 1300mghz tested it and failed. Ok so during testing various settings I get a black screen and only option was to reboot...Finally got it stable @850mhz and memory @1150 or so cant quite remeber...so Now I want to see what my new 3dmark would be so I run the test and go in ther shower when i come back Black screen again:( My question is is my card damaged from this maybe? I know the card is already OCed and anything else is potetially dangerous....Im basically worried about my card thats all...thanks

Ps forgive my spelling as Im writing this from my blackberry.
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Re: MSI HD3870 OC and catalyst OC tool
« Reply #1 on: 25-March-08, 05:00:13 »

Most likely you have OC'ed too much. Try testing it out with Ati Tool's artifact scanner and see if you get any error (Do not trust ATI's Overdrive). You can get Ati Tool here http://www.techpowerup.com/wizzard/ATITool_0.27b3.exe

By the way what's your GPU's temperature?
You can monitor your GPU temp by using rivatuner from here http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=163 or through ATI's CCC.

I'm also currently using a Radeon HD3870 (although its a different brand) but I've managed to OC it up to 860 Core and 1210 memory without any issue. My unit is however equiped with a custom cooler. As I understand the stock cooler on the 3870 is notoriously hot!!!

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I've checked on ATi's forums and found out that the HD3xxx cards are having fan control issues. Mostly they are reported to be stuck at 25% or 30% even under full load which helps explain the high temperature and could possibly lead to occasional blackouts. It is possible for you to use RivaTuner to change the fan's speed to a higher fixed percentage 70% to 100% to see if the card will run smoothly
 
« Last Edit: 27-March-08, 04:12:39 by boon25 »
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Re: MSI HD3870 OC and catalyst OC tool
« Reply #2 on: 10-April-08, 05:58:35 »

Strangely enough my GPU stays @41c @820MHz and I can get it to 860MHz@ 45c stable through Catalyst even @ max 885MHz!!! However I don't see a need to go that high and the temps go over 50c so I don't want to risk anything........My fan seems to be at least 80% at all times so it does keep my GPU cool....I think the culprit though is overclocking the memory that seems to give me the blackouts in my opinion. Bottom line though the card is a beast...Stock settings runs Crysis on High Settings with no problem at all! It runs best at a bit over stock settings and I don't think it really needs to be any higher than that. Thanks for the info bro and your research I really appreciate it!

PS I will try that artifact tool and riva turner I just don't really care for I have it not too big on it....Thanks my friend!


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Re: MSI HD3870 OC and catalyst OC tool
« Reply #3 on: 10-April-08, 09:00:52 »

You're welcome NBT. ATI's overdrive have a knack for pushing thing up to very high without giving any error (reporting that the settings are stable). However, this is often not the case as I've encountered personnaly; the highest setting @875 core, 1375 mem send ATI's tool's artifact scanner berzerk and often cause lockups in games.

The DDR4s should have a large headroom for OC but because they are not cooled properly (usually they aren't), they usually cause blackouts at high clock settings. And yup the card at stock speed should be alright to drive most games through but do keep in mind that this only a midrange card, it can't do the impposible especially when operating under DirectX10 in high resolution settings.
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Re: MSI HD3870 OC and catalyst OC tool
« Reply #4 on: 10-April-08, 18:43:29 »

Again thanks my friend!For my gaming need the 3870 being a midrange card its suits me well for now....Hasn't ceased to amaze me yet!  :biggthumbsup:

I noticed you went from a 9600 to a 3870...any particular reason? Not impressed with the 9600?


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Re: MSI HD3870 OC and catalyst OC tool
« Reply #5 on: 11-April-08, 04:22:04 »

The 9600GT has good performance... one that is credible to that of the HD3870 but only when it performs well. Most of the time it is a major headache. I'm sure you've noticed about the Balckscreen of Death issue on the 9600GT. One word advice... stay away from this card!!!
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Re: MSI HD3870 OC and catalyst OC tool
« Reply #6 on: 11-April-08, 06:49:29 »

No doubt..... I have heard of that problem with the 9600 series, thats why I went with an 8800GToc!   :biggthumbsup:


later bro.....

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