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Need drivers for MS-6570 Ver:1 motherboard
« on: 25-June-09, 05:57:46 »

Need the drivers for the MS-6570 motherboard and CANNOT find them. I am doing a build for my grandma who needs a cheap computer, but the Ethernet drivers won't find themselves. It looks similar to this:http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.msicomputer.com/product/mb_image/MS-6570E-030.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p_spec.asp%3Fmodel%3DK7N2_Delta2-LSR&usg=__hCjT1ov9iTNrz76nhe4uxXxEcWA=&h=249&w=300&sz=42&hl=en&start=8&um=1&tbnid=mZ2vqAJ5UaJk7M:&tbnh=96&tbnw=116&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dms%2B6570%2Bver%2B1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26channel%3Ds%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DG%26um%3D1

But the last Pci slot is blue, and the motherboard has a 4pin CPU power connector next to the 20 pin power connector. Thanks so much-Austin.
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Re: Need drivers for MS-6570 Ver:1 motherboard
« Reply #1 on: 25-June-09, 06:29:13 »

 Which one? There is more than one. What is the marketing name between the PCI slots on it? K7N2?? ?

http://www.msi.com/index.php?func=prodarchive&maincat_no=1 Click on the one you have and then you can find the driver, manual, BIOS, etc., etc.
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Re: Need drivers for MS-6570 Ver:1 motherboard
« Reply #2 on: 25-June-09, 07:15:22 »

Yes K7N2. Which one should I click :o?
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Re: Need drivers for MS-6570 Ver:1 motherboard
« Reply #4 on: 25-June-09, 07:33:32 »

Thanks I'll get on it once Windows 7 leaves its loading screen...Its still in the screen you get after windows loads up the files off the disk..Hezues.
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Re: Need drivers for MS-6570 Ver:1 motherboard
« Reply #5 on: 25-June-09, 23:41:53 »

This board wasn't fully compatible with Vista. Don't know of course if things are different with Windows 7.
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Re: Need drivers for MS-6570 Ver:1 motherboard
« Reply #6 on: 26-June-09, 00:13:48 »

 Use Win.XP on that MB, if it's like Vista it is not compatable with the old N2 chipset. I told you that in your other thread.
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Re: Need drivers for MS-6570 Ver:1 motherboard
« Reply #7 on: 26-June-09, 07:06:24 »

I don't believe you gave me the right drivers. Becuase when I look at the BIOS info it says Bios V4.0 but my BIOS has BIOS IS 6.00PG. My Chipset is Nforce2 ultra and Southbridge Nforce2 MPC. I finally got Win7 to run on it, had to OC to 1500MHZ from 800MHZ, but then after I got it completely uninstalled I UNOC'd it 1250MHZ.
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Re: Need drivers for MS-6570 Ver:1 motherboard
« Reply #8 on: 26-June-09, 07:29:41 »

 Well I asked for the name of the MB that it shows between the PCI slots and you never actually answered that question. If you don't properly answer the questions then natuturaly you will get wrong information. Exactly what CPU is it you have also? There is an OPN number on it, what is it?
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Re: Need drivers for MS-6570 Ver:1 motherboard
« Reply #9 on: 26-June-09, 10:22:22 »

Well, the BIOS recognizes the CPU as "Unknown" and as soon as I fired it up it was at 800mhz, and the stock clock should be 1.4ghz. The motherboard looks similar to the one in the picture, but mine has 2 blue DDR DIMM slots and 1 Green DIMM. Mine also has a PCI slot that is blue at the end. The numbers between the PCI slots is K7N2. I currently have it running perfectly in Windows 7 with every driver detected, but now it seems I am in need of a BIOS update. Is it possible to do it through windows as well? Anyways Everest says its MOBOs name is MSI K7N2 Delta-L (MS 6570G) (5 PCI, 1 AGP, 1 ACR 3 DDR DIMM)
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Re: Need drivers for MS-6570 Ver:1 motherboard
« Reply #10 on: 26-June-09, 10:41:52 »

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Well, the BIOS recognizes the CPU as "Unknown" and as soon as I fired it up it was at 800mhz

Sounds like a mobile running at 6x133

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and the stock clock should be 1.4ghz

How do you know that?

K7N2G ILSR http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p_spec.asp?model=K7N2G-ILSR

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Re: Need drivers for MS-6570 Ver:1 motherboard
« Reply #11 on: 26-June-09, 10:51:32 »

exactly what my mobo looks like but it has dual channel dimms, (color coded). What exactly do I do to flash the BIOS. Is it possible to use A USB or flash through windows?
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Re: Need drivers for MS-6570 Ver:1 motherboard
« Reply #12 on: 26-June-09, 11:06:25 »

You seem to have difficulty answering questions.

How do you know the stock speed of the cpu is 1400MHz??

Flashing the bios may not be necessary.

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exactly what my mobo looks like but it has dual channel dimms, (color coded)

So does the board I linked to.
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Re: Need drivers for MS-6570 Ver:1 motherboard
« Reply #13 on: 26-June-09, 11:10:58 »

Ok. I am sorry I am a bit difficult, but I didn't really suspect it to be a Question. Well, I don't quite know how to explain it. Anyways the reason I believe it is 1.4GHZ is because Everest recognized the processor as Athlon-M 1700+, which seems to have 1.4GHZ stock clock. I update the BIOS via live update and it still registers as 800MHZ and runs at 38C at 800MHZ now for some reason.
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Re: Need drivers for MS-6570 Ver:1 motherboard
« Reply #14 on: 26-June-09, 11:16:46 »

So what bios did you use to update? What made you think you needed to update the bios? Heck we're not sure what board it is at the mement.

The only way to be sure what cpu you have is to remove the heatsink and get the opn from the black rectangular label on the cpu.
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Re: Need drivers for MS-6570 Ver:1 motherboard
« Reply #15 on: 26-June-09, 11:24:38 »

Alright, Will have to do later. I just want to add one more thing though, after updating the BIOS, it only recognizes my CPU when at 800Mhz as the Athlon(m), but when I overclocked it, it says Unknown CPU. Also my BIOS says that at 800MHZ it runs at 39c, and when you OC to 1500mhz it says its running at 40c..:censored:

EDIT:So apparently I had the newest BIOS, because whenever I check CPU-Z and Everest it still notices 6.00PG. Everest also recognizes the CPU as a 2100+ now. I will check the sticker sometime later and write it all down. I apologize for being so difficult but I am still new to these things and I am a difficult 15 Y/O
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Re: Need drivers for MS-6570 Ver:1 motherboard
« Reply #16 on: 26-June-09, 11:49:35 »

Use Win.XP on that MB, if it's like Vista it is not compatable with the old N2 chipset. I told you that in your other thread.

I think you need to take heed of that remark. XP runs fin on nForce2 boards with the right bios, memory setup etc. If you indeed have a mobile you may need a custom bios.

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whenever I check CPU-Z and Everest it still notices 6.00PG

This is normal. I'm currently running a mobile with custom bios on Delta2 LSR and cpu-z gives same info.

Post some more info from cpu-z if you think it's worthwhile. Cpu-Z gives core code name, multi, bus speed, info on each memory module, memory timings etc etc. All useful info which would make our task easier.
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Re: Need drivers for MS-6570 Ver:1 motherboard
« Reply #17 on: 26-June-09, 11:52:56 »

I'll try and post pictures of both. I'll edit this post and add them.







Everest now says-CPU Type   AMD Athlon XP, 1600 MHz (8 x 200) 2100+





If none of this info is what you need tell me, I can get the correct info.
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Re: Need drivers for MS-6570 Ver:1 motherboard
« Reply #18 on: 26-June-09, 16:51:29 »

I'll try and post pictures of both. I'll edit this post and add them.







Everest now says-CPU Type   AMD Athlon XP, 1600 MHz (8 x 200) 2100+





If none of this info is what you need tell me, I can get the correct info.

Ok I got the numbers and figured out it is this: What should I clock it too?

http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/K7/AMD-Mobile%20Athlon%20XP-M%202400%2B%20-%20AXMH2400FQQ4C.html

Under the Bios I only have 13.0 Multiplier and up to 200 FSB.
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Re: Need drivers for MS-6570 Ver:1 motherboard
« Reply #20 on: 26-June-09, 17:04:02 »

You'll no doubt be pleased to hear you have a 45w barton xp-m2400 with a good stepping which should clock to over 2 GHz without trouble. Try setting a x11 multiplier.

What memory modules do you have? All I can see is a 512MB Samsung module.
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Re: Need drivers for MS-6570 Ver:1 motherboard
« Reply #21 on: 26-June-09, 17:18:15 »

11x by 200(MaX FSB) gets me 2200MHZ (2.2GHZ) jumping from 41c to 42c, I have 2 sticks of 512MB Mushkin and the 1 stick of Samsung. All DDR400

12x by 166 gets me 2000MHZ(2.0GHZ) Idling at 40c, sometimes jumping to 41c.
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Re: Need drivers for MS-6570 Ver:1 motherboard
« Reply #22 on: 26-June-09, 19:12:12 »

So what exactly is the actual stock clock? Since my BIOS doesn't recognize the processor by its name or original clock, I need to set it myself.
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Re: Need drivers for MS-6570 Ver:1 motherboard
« Reply #23 on: 26-June-09, 20:07:24 »

The info is in Svet's link: 13,5 x 266. But even with that setting there is a big risk CMOS will not recognize the Mobile. That is however no problem. ...One can drive a car even though they replaced the engine inside.  :think: Mobile Bartons are as said very efficient and flexible.

A little off: It is a little strange they name it Barton with a 133 FSB. 166 is what I connect to Barton models.
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Re: Need drivers for MS-6570 Ver:1 motherboard
« Reply #24 on: 26-June-09, 20:29:38 »

 Please stop starting new topics all over the forum, stick to one thread as you are making it very difficult to keep track of everything.

 For posting pictures of the screenshots instead of just 'PrtScn' please use 'Alt + PrtScn'  so you only show the open window instead of the entire screen.

 You are not 'overclocking' an 800MHz CPU, you do not have an 800MHz CPU.
 You may not like the idea of the extra work involved but look at the CPU and tell us what the OPN number is. Example here: AMSN 2200 D U T 3 C

 

 To find the correct BIOS look here when booting the PC, the number (6.00PG) you gave is not the BIOS version. Write down the BIOS string you see and tell us what it is.



 As I said before, look between the PCI slots and write down the motherboard marketing name. MS-6570 is not the marketing name.
Example here:
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Re: Need drivers for MS-6570 Ver:1 motherboard
« Reply #25 on: 26-June-09, 23:01:24 »

Stock speed for that xp-m is 13.5x133 - about 1800 MHz. If you want to run at 133 bus, then fine.

But you should be running it at 200MHz bus as both the motherboard and the memory(PC3200 - DDR400) support 200MHz in which case you have to reduce the multiplier on the cpu. You were at x8(8x200 - about 1600 MHz) which again is fine but you should be able to increase that. At x9 you would be at "stock" speed(1800 MHz) if you don't want to truly overclock.
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Re: Need drivers for MS-6570 Ver:1 motherboard
« Reply #26 on: 27-June-09, 01:11:24 »

Please stop starting new topics all over the forum, stick to one thread as you are making it very difficult to keep track of everything.

 For posting pictures of the screenshots instead of just 'PrtScn' please use 'Alt + PrtScn'  so you only show the open window instead of the entire screen.

 You are not 'overclocking' an 800MHz CPU, you do not have an 800MHz CPU.
 You may not like the idea of the extra work involved but look at the CPU and tell us what the OPN number is. Example here: AMSN 2200 D U T 3 C

 

 To find the correct BIOS look here when booting the PC, the number (6.00PG) you gave is not the BIOS version. Write down the BIOS string you see and tell us what it is.



 As I said before, look between the PCI slots and write down the motherboard marketing name. MS-6570 is not the marketing name.
Example here:


Numbers on the CPU:AXMH2400FQQ4C T860384E40074 1QYHA0417XPMW. I had it wrote down, but I removed it because I thought everyone had came to the decision of it being a 2400+

The numbers between the PCI slots are once again:K7N2

and the BIOS is:W6570NMS V5.9 its Award BIOS

and I only made another thread because it was about CMOS so I figured it should go under another thread, although we did go majorly off topic on this one. Feel free to remove that thread as I no longer need help.

CPU-Z full windows:




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Re: Need drivers for MS-6570 Ver:1 motherboard
« Reply #27 on: 27-June-09, 02:21:48 »

 Great, it looks like you now have your CPU properly ID'd by BIOS and CPU-z and you have it set at correct stock stock speed. :biggthumbsup:

 Don't mix RAM like that because can you end up with stabilty problems, all installed RAM should be the same and not mixed in any way such as brand, size, speed, etc., etc.

 Low load temps in that range are nothing to be concerned about. What maximum temps have you come up with under heavier CPU loads?

 Is there anything else you need to know?
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Re: Need drivers for MS-6570 Ver:1 motherboard
« Reply #28 on: 27-June-09, 02:46:21 »

38c idle 46c max under 6 hours of Prime 95 but I forgot to set priority so:/. But I have a question..My ID on my CPU is supposed to be a 2400+ if I am correct? and when I look at the link the others provided at says:

Frequency:1800MHZ Rated:2400MHZ... and 266 x 13.5 but my BIOS only has 233 and 13.0 when I have it set to manual, and 200 in FSB when its in Auto. When I change the CPU frequency the BIOS and Everest detect the processor as something different

For example, whenever I change Frequency, Everest will notice it as a AMD Athlon XP-M xxxx+ It will change the model number. Same with the BIOS. Whenever I change the clock speed it will recognize it as a Unknown typ CPU 3000+ or so on.
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Re: Need drivers for MS-6570 Ver:1 motherboard
« Reply #29 on: 27-June-09, 03:42:46 »

Type CPU / Microprocessor
Family AMD Athlon XP-M
Part number AXMH2400FQQ4C
Stepping codes ADYHA   AQUCA   AQXDA   AQZFA   IQXEA
Frequency (MHz) 2400 (rated)
1800 (real)
Bus speed (MHz) 266
Clock multiplier - 13.5
Actual bus frequency is 133 MHz. Because the processor uses Double Data Rate bus the effective bus speed is 266 MHz.

 BIOS would have settings of 133 (266 effective DDR), 166 (333 effective DDR), 200 (400 effective DDR)

 In some respects reporting software is stupid and will say CPU is a different model depending on the speed it's runnig at.

 And your temps are just fine, nothing at all to worry about.
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« Reply #30 on: 27-June-09, 04:20:10 »

Oh Ok, last question, what about the multiplier. It says 13.5, yet I only have 13.0
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« Reply #31 on: 27-June-09, 04:23:32 »

You can't use those as CPU is not officially supported

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Re: Need drivers for MS-6570 Ver:1 motherboard
« Reply #32 on: 27-June-09, 10:14:04 »

Do you know where I can get the list of supported CPUs? I have tried 3 different Socket A processors in the Motherboard and none of them have worked besides this one. None what so ever. Ones an old Duron, ones an Old Athlon, and Ones a Athlon XP 2800+
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Re: Need drivers for MS-6570 Ver:1 motherboard
« Reply #33 on: 27-June-09, 11:29:44 »

Do you know where I can get the list of supported CPUs? I have tried 3 different Socket A processors in the Motherboard and none of them have worked besides this one. None what so ever. Ones an old Duron, ones an Old Athlon, and Ones a Athlon XP 2800+

CPU support list for K7N2:
http://www.msi.com/index.php?func=prodcpusupport&maincat_no=1&cat2_no=&cat3_no=&prod_no=519#menu

'Mobile' CPUs will only be recognised as 'Unknown Processor' as no support was officially added as they were never intended for use in desktop mainboards.
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Re: Need drivers for MS-6570 Ver:1 motherboard
« Reply #34 on: 27-June-09, 12:01:08 »

OH, ok that makes sense. Does anyone know what my MAX temp on full load should be for these processor so I can determine what Frequency to have it at? Thanks
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« Reply #35 on: 27-June-09, 16:59:00 »

Electrical/Thermal parameters
V core (V)   1.45
Min/Max operating temperature (°C)   0 - 100
Max power dissipation (W)   45
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