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 on: Today at 20:52:34 
Started by fuzzhead72 - Last post by fuzzhead72
  I built a system for my parents back in early 2015.  It has been using an AMD A4-6320 dual core processor and a Microstar FM2-A55M-E33 motherboard.  The motherboard was purchased retail as an open box item at Micro Center, sold with full manufacturer warranty.  Although it was originally returned to Micro Center for some reason, it has been rock solid for my parents, and they have been very happy with it.  However, more recently, my kids have occasionally played games on it when visiting, and the processor's onboard graphics have shown to be a bit dated in this regard.  I thought that perhaps upgrading from A4 to A10 might help the issue.

  I researched the board on the MSI website and saw that the AD67000KA44HL (A10-6700) could be found fairly reasonably for about $60, so I procured one.  Also fearing that the A4's OEM heatsink/fan might be inadequate, I also purchased a new heatsink to go along with it, an Arctic Alpine 64 Plus. (should be fine since the new processor has 65 Watt thermal design power)  I believe that both the A4 6320 and A4-6700 are Richland processors, so I wouldn't think this is an issue with BIOS not supporting Richland.

  I installed the new processor and heatsink, then powered on to no post beep or bootup.  There was nothing on the monitor, and only fan noise from the computer.  I checked all cables, reseated memory and processor, then tried again, with the same result.  I reinstalled the A4-6320 processor and oem heatsink/fan and it booted right back up to Windows.

  Thinking that this might be some sort of issue with an older BIOS that might not support a newer processor, I checked the BIOS and looked at the website.  The website lists the latest Bios date as Feb. 13, 2014. (B6)  However, the BIOS installed for my board says "Current UEFI BIOS file E7721AMS.W70  V32.7  date 10-17-2014".   What the heck?  I never updated the BIOS on this thing, and I absolutely know my parents never messed with it.  The only way I can think of for it to have a newer BIOS than the latest official release might be for the original purchaser to have installed something different.  Might that have possibly been why they returned it, and I found it as an open box item?

  In any case, I downloaded the latest official BIOS, dated Feb. 13, 2014.  I tried multiple times to install it from USB flash drive, but every time I was greeted with "The PCB version of this board does not match with the new BIOS.  The tool will exit."  This was trying E7721VB6.exe.

  I HAVE verified visually that FM2-A55M-E33 is what is actually written on the motherboard itself - that is 100% correct.

  I have also taken the A10 processor and installed it on my motherboard here at home, with the same heatsink, and was able to boot up to Windows 10 desktop with no problems.  I ran a 'torture test' for 6 hours just to make certain it didn't have any obvious issues, and it passed with no errors.

  So as far as I can tell, there aren't any problems with the new heatsink/fan, and no problems with the new A10 processor.  There also haven't seemed to be any problems with the A55M-E33 motherboard previously, since as I said it was running over the years rock solid.  As far as I can tell, the only issue I am having at the moment appears to be that I can't install the last official BIOS, for some reason, and it seems that the first owner before I bought it from Micro Center may have installed some other BIOS, which previously ran fine with the A4-6320 Richland processor in there.

  I will admit that I'm a bit baffled as to why when I back up the current BIOS file, I end up with E7721AMS.W70 on my flash drive, but when I download the latest BIOS from the website, there doesn't seem to be any .W70 file on there, at least anything that the board's own BIOS install program can find.  Does the board's BIOS backup feature result in a different format of file than what we download from the website?

  If anyone can possibly think of another step or two that I could try to get this thing up and running with the A10-6700 processor, I would appreciate it very much.  I may have missed something obvious to other folks, and am hoping that might be the case.

  I have included a few screen grabs below showing some of what I've been seeing.  Thanks so much for any help you can offer!

Main Board: fm2-a55m-e33_______________________________________
Bios Version: e7721ams.w70  v32.7  date 10-17-2014_______________________________________
Video Card: none_______________________________________
PSU brand and model:  generic 400w_______________________________________
12v rail Rating of listed PSU: _______________________________________
CPU: current A4-6320, wanted A10-6700_______________________________________
Memory: 8gb_______________________________________
SSD/ HDD: 2tb_______________________________________
CPU COOLER: oem to Arctic Alpine 64 plus___________________________________ ____
Raid Card: _n/a______________________________________
Sound Card: __onboard_____________________________________
Keyboard:  _______________________________________
Mouse:  _logitech______________________________ ________
Any Additional hardware plugged into your system: ___printer____________________________________
OC: (Yes / No) no
Operating System: _______________Windows 10 64-bit________________________


 on: Today at 20:43:55 
Started by Big Bob - Last post by Big Bob
My friend has an 8 Gig chip for that slot on the same PC.

I was hoping to stick a 16 Gig chip there or something....

But I don't know much about memory. Is there some mathematical or engineering reason why I should stick with a 4 gig chip?

 on: Today at 20:33:10 
Started by miracsies - Last post by miracsies
With my couple of months old MSI CX62 7QL, I have decided to try one of the most recent games of one of my favourite platforming video game series, Rayman Origins. It is a game made and distributed by Ubisoft on their game distribution platform Uplay, and the game was given away for free as part of their christmas celebration some time ago, anyway it's still pretty cheap, costs just some euros, and I'm going to review it here. And, I have got 8 giga byte DDR 4 RAM, Intel Core i5-7200U CPU 2.50 giga hertz CPU, an Nvidia 940 MX 2GB graphics card on this laptop, by the way.

Plot (taken from wikipedia): After the events ofRayman: Hoodlum's Revenge, Bubble Dreamer,Rayman, his best friend Globox, and some Teensy friends are chilling out at the Bubble Dreamer's resting grounds, the Snoring Tree. However, their snoring disturbs an old granny from the Land of the Livid Dead, who retaliates by sending an evil army of horrendous creatures and the Darktoons across the world, capturing the Electoons that inhabit the world, imprisoning Betilla the Nymph and her sisters, and plunging the Glade into chaos. As a result, the ensuing disaster causes the Bubble Dreamer to go crazy and have nightmares. Although they are captured, Rayman and his friends are able to escape the Darktoons. They are then tasked by the Magician to gather enough Electoons to cure the Bubble Dreamer and restore the Glade of Dreams. Their efforts to locate the Electoons allow them to gain access to the various lands of the Glade, rescuing the Nymphs along the way.
Eventually, they make their way to a mysterious gate, which can only be opened by rescuing the Glade Kings, who have been turned into monsters as a result of Bubble Dreamer's nightmares. Upon freeing the Glade Kings, the Nymphs are able to open the stargate, granting Rayman access to a hideout in the land of Moody Clouds. There, they discover that their supposed friend, the Magician, is the one responsible for the Moody Clouds. He secretly admires Mr. Dark, the villain of the original Rayman, and has been using the Lums given to him by the heroes to power his diabolical machines. The heroes chase after the Magician and fight against him in his escape airship, sending it crashing into the power source of his hideout. The resulting chain of events causes the hideout to explode, while Rayman and friends free-fall back to the Snoring Tree, where they proceed to resume their relaxation.
If players manage to collect the ten ruby teeth throughout the game, they can gain access to the Land of the Livid Dead, where another monster awaits.

Gameplay: Well, this game is so much fun as a platformer. I really get bored of "try-hard" games like FPSs and MOBAs a lot, then I just return to the basics and play platformer games such as this one. And this one is damn good. The physics of the game aren't clunky, the controls are responsive and sensitive, the mechanics never make you rage, the gameplay itself is very fluid, the fighting and jumping animations and mechanics are too damn fun, the graphics are flashy, colorful, yet never tire the eye. This game is the dream of a platformer video game fan. It has everything. I mean I wish I was a kid right now and not in the 90s so that I could play this game instead of very buggy, clunky NES games. But do not get me wrong, this game is not a "kid game", this game is for all ages. I'm pretty middle aged right now and I love this game. The main story is long enough so you get well satisfied. Everything about this game is like "how to make platformer video games 101".

I play with the highest settings and get an easy peasy 100+ frames per second so that is amazing. Also the game has controller support, which is amazing because let's face it. Platformers, like racing games and sports games and fighting games and hack-and-slash games, are meant to be played with controllers. Yet there is absolutely no downside of playing Rayman Origins with a keyboard. It is still as sensitive and responsive.

Anyway, if you like platformers, and if you haven't tried this game already, WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR? just get it. also it's great for young gamers so parents can get it too for their kids while enjoying the game themselves as well.

I shot a video of the game to give you an idea of how it looks. Enjoy :)

youtube com/watch?v=Uh96fyoGYuE

 on: Today at 20:14:18 
Started by tyriel - Last post by tyriel
maybe  can add an option in the BIOS RAID in LEGACY mode, I would like to install Win7, but this option is missing in bios

 on: Today at 20:05:52 
Started by flobelix - Last post by flobelix
This topic has been moved to Graphics Cards.

 on: Today at 20:05:41 
Started by marcus.franz93 - Last post by flobelix
The currently used vbios (NV809MH0.C20) is the latest already. There is no update. 

MSI's cards are just guaranteed to work with Windows like your card does. It is most likely some Linux issue, visit a Linux forum for fixing the pure OS/software issue.

 on: Today at 20:03:14 
Started by mmosel - Last post by mmosel
Reporting on my experience with the B350 Mortar, regarding motherboard & bios issues around setting 4G memory support, multiple GPUs and risers.

First of all, if you lose access to the bios after setting the 4G Memory switch, you can try resetting the bios. If that doesn't work, use the trick Papaya wrote in a post - basically Del your way into a black screen startup ( bios is there but hidden ) and F6, enter, F10, enter and if done right, the board will reboot and you should see the bios.

Second, after I switched WHQL support ON, I was then able to turn on the 4G memory switch successfully and still get a bootup logo. ( Note, the bootup logo changes with the WHQL support turned ON )

Having the WHQL support ON solved so many of my problems with GPUs not initializing or not showing a bios screen. Prior to this, I was having to reset the bios, switch cards around, etc. It was driving me mad trying to get things stable. This made all the difference in this dept.

Finally, I attempted to drive a 3rd video card off of a 1x PCIe slot with a 1x to 16x riser. Absolutely nothing I tried would allow the motherboard to boot properly with a riser installed. I was able to test the riser in the full PCIe slot and it worked fine. I also dropped it into a 10 year old ( competitor brand ) AMD motherboard, and the riser instantly worked in a 1x pcie slot, the first try. I don't know why the riser won't work on the Mortar. It's disappointing. I didn't have the heart to try to 'connect pins' on the motherboard slot. If it doesn't work as is, I'm not really going to push my luck. I don't want to short something out.

So, essentially, I don't think I'll ever be able to drive more than two GPUs on this motherboard. I've read some other people have had some issues on MSI boards with this as well. I wonder if it could be fixed with a bios update, or if it's a hardware issue on the slot itself. I hope MSI gets this issue sorted out in the future.

Anyway, hopefully this information will help someone down the line who is about to pull their own hair out.

 on: Today at 19:59:30 
Started by thompson9100 - Last post by flobelix
This is a forum and you are NOT contacting MSI here. >>How to contact MSI.<<

 on: Today at 19:58:42 
Started by jayhcho - Last post by flobelix
>>How to contact MSI.<<

 on: Today at 19:58:32 
Started by flobelix - Last post by flobelix
This topic has been moved to Anything Under The Sun.

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