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Should I upgrade my laptop to a desktop
« on: 18-March-17, 20:45:55 »

I am new to the forum, hoping this is the right place to ask my question.  I have a GP60 2qf leopard pro laptop.  I'm thinking of upgrading to a Nightblade x2b-249ca desktop (great deal on one at a local store).  Would this be a good upgrade?  I'd like to record 60fps gameplay but am limited to 40fps with my laptop.  I make and render videos, graphics design, gaming (of course). Will this desktop record 60fps using OBS or similar recording software?  What other benefits would upgrading to this desktop be?  Any other desktop suggestions and advice is welcome.  Thanks
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« Reply #1 on: 18-March-17, 21:42:55 »

Desktop PCs are almost always better than laptops, in terms of performance. The desktop in this case is definitely faster. Although, I cannot say whether it will be sufficient to record at 60 fps, because I don't use that software.

Personally, I would avoid using pre-built desktops especially those with small profiles, because it makes upgrading a pain. Although upgrading laptop is even worse.

Gaming laptops are a niche market and logically it doesn't make much sense to me. Most people aren't traveling with their gaming laptop as they are usually quite heavy. Gaming laptops are at least 1.5 times more expensive than a equivalent desktop. (Usually much more than that). A gaming desktop doesn't need to be a bulky full tower, but without the ability to upgrade and change to the gaming market, its a waste of money. Although, some people don't care and use computers as throw-away devices after a few years (Apple).
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« Reply #2 on: 19-March-17, 11:41:26 »

Thanks for the info.
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« Reply #3 on: 19-March-17, 13:19:21 »

Realistically, most gaming laptops are upgradable. It's expensive, don't get me wrong, but you can usually upgrade the only thing that really matters....the GPU. At least on the expensive gaming laptops (GT72, etc....). 

The same can realistically be said of desktops. And while you can re-use the case/SSD/etc....it's still rather expensive depending. If you need new RAM, besides just a CPU and MB, then it just adds more.

Personally, I like gaming laptops. I just can't afford to upgrade one of those any time soon.
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« Reply #4 on: 20-March-17, 13:19:29 »

What I want to know; I looked at the specs of both my current MSI gp60 2qf Leopard Pro, and the Nightblade x2b 249ca I'm looking at, but I am no computer genius, and I'm not sure what most of the stuff does. Like if someone told me to describe RAM I couldn't do it. So I would like to know if the following specs are better than what I currently own.

MSI gp60 2qf Leopard Pro
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4720HQ CPU @ 2.60GHz 2.60 GHZ
Installed Memory (RAM): 8.00 GB (7.17 GB usable)
Graphics Card: NVIDIA GTX950M
(I'm not sure what the other stuff does)
MSI Nightblade x2b 249ca
Processor: Intel Core i7-6700
Graphics: Nvidia GeForce GTX 1060
Memory: 16.00 GB
(I found these specs online at http://tekadvisor.ca/devices/675 )
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« Reply #5 on: 20-March-17, 13:35:40 »

6700 is significantly faster at 3.4GHz. 16GB is generally the minimum recommended configuration for a gaming PC. 1060 is basically equivalent to a 970. Mobile GPUs are generally less powerful than desktop variants (many laptops now come with desktop equivalents. 950m is the standard mobile series weaker than 950 desktop variant.

Nightblade definitely better.
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« Reply #6 on: 20-March-17, 14:28:39 »

Is it possible to know by how much? like if it is 2 times faster I think that will get me 60 fps recording or not...
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« Reply #7 on: 20-March-17, 15:19:11 »

The GP60 is not upgradeable as far as the video card. It is integrated onto the motherboard. You will not have any ability to upgrade the GPU or the CPU on that laptop.
If you want the ability to upgrade the GPU, you'll need to jump up to the GT series.

In the end, if you can't pony up for the GT series laptop, don't waste your money. Get a Nightblade and be happy. :)
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« Reply #8 on: 03-May-17, 02:52:53 »

it is always nice to have both.  The laptop (while not as amazing as a desktop) can be taken with you while you travel and such.  The desktop makes up for the rest.
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« Reply #9 on: 04-May-17, 16:42:38 »

Of course you should, desktop components are far better than of laptop's. You will have the advantages like faster performance, better temperatures and gaming. The only features you'll lose is portability. I highly recommend upgrading to a desktop if you do a lot of gaming or editing.
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« Reply #10 on: 30-May-17, 22:51:10 »

If you have an option of upgrading it to Desktop, you should go for it.
The biggest plus is that you can keep upgrading the desktop with the latest graphic card or other hardware parts while you cannot change your laptop config once you get one. Plus heat sync issues are little less on desktop as compared to laptop.
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« Reply #11 on: 12-June-17, 19:42:39 »

Desktop all the way...
You can always pack more power into a desktop than a laptop...

The **ONLY** time you need a laptop is when you want to play away from home.
Like at a friends house or club-house...

Otherwise, if you always going to play online from your house, then you cant beat a desktop.

Note:
If you take the desktop route.....
It will pay dividends to DELAY purchasing a new system or DELAY building a new system just now...
For around 6 months-ish 
As the Ryzen cpu is new and it still needs some wrinkles (read as glitches) ironing out...

All the guys who bought one, me included, are in fact the guinea pigs who are helping 
to iron out the wrinkles via communicating their issues, problems, sleepless nights and head-aches...
through forums for their respective component part manufacturers website.

So if you delay purchasing it, it will save you from head-ache,
How this will affect prices is another thing!!!

DDR4 Memory I bought 2-3 months ago is now £50 more expensive...
Anyway, its swings and roundabouts....

Good luck
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« Reply #12 on: 12-June-17, 19:47:12 »

one reason I got a MSI laptop is because MSI promises two generations of upgrade.

I just went through this. My two year old GT72 dominator with a 970 got upgraded to the 1070 for a fair upgrade fee. Was worth it.
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« Reply #13 on: 27-June-17, 09:31:23 »

If you need better performance go for desktop you can modify it how you want and like it will give you perfo for years and ability to modify the parts in future. But remember that laptop give you that comforts of being with you everywhere you can take it to work you're bed etc but since you all ready have one it will be better to work and do harder stuff on desktop and when you will need the pc with you just take you're old laptop that will be the best option keep in mind that desktops are much more powerful and they do have lower temps plus laptops are compact kinda cut versions of desktops but for higher price tho
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« Reply #14 on: 04-July-17, 19:25:00 »

Sure go for a desktop,i was on a laptop and i built a ryzen pc a week before,so much difference
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« Reply #15 on: 17-August-17, 08:39:30 »

Would love to see a msi external gpu for all notebooks soon.
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« Reply #16 on: 23-October-17, 02:14:58 »

As soon as I got a desktop, i stopped using my laptop
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« Reply #17 on: 24-October-17, 15:01:25 »

Why 16 gb minimum, i actually use 8 gb of (2x4gb@1600mhz) crucial ballistix sport on a desktop home built, and i run as well the recent games 100 fps ~ under w10 system. Many of people using 4 gb and of couse it is  too little. 8 gb is the minimum not 16. So i use a Z87 G45 motherboard and a 1050 Ti Gaming X coupled to a I7 4770K and a raid 0 of two SSD 500 gb from Samsung alimented by 760 watts.
Today i buyed 16 gigas Ram of Kingston Fury (2x8gb@1600) because my second home built have only 4 gb ram and because i want to see if 16 gb can boost anything for gaming.
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« Reply #18 on: 24-October-17, 20:10:13 »

For purely gaming, 8 gb is enough. save the money and put more into something that will make more of a difference like a better gpu. I have 2 x 4 GB 2800 DDR4 with a 6700k and I play Call of Duty, Battlefield, Dota, etc at 1440p with no problem.
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« Reply #19 on: 02-November-17, 01:54:17 »

Yo' 16 gb make a difference :yes:
RAID 0 Good configured Too, and i had read many topic last night mostly people said on the net there is better to have a single SSD, then No! Honestly just think before what will you doing. I Choosed 32ko stripes size and 64ko clusters size for the partionning. 
Just look and think. Stripe size is the size of one block on one of the ssd or hdd. I have 2 sdd in my raid so 32ko + 32ko = 64Ko then one cluster is writting or accessed two times fastest due to my two ssd working simultaneously. if i get a 4 SSD Raid i would to use 64/4 = 16 ko my friends for get 4 times fastests access.
In realworld with my two ssd i win 10-15 fps on PlanetSide 2 for exemple. But this when i used a 64ko clusters and stripes size with 8 gb ram. Now i will try tomorrow my fresh install and i will come back to write a descent opinion. Sorry for my bad English i am tired and i want to go to sleep.
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« Reply #20 on: 02-November-17, 23:15:26 »

So i would to edit but i did not found the button.

Well, i need a coffe :D
due to my intensive gaming activity ;) i can speak and i want to share my experience about my hardware capacities.

In my personnal pc i have these components:
Processor: i7 4770K @ 3900Mhz 
Motherboard: Z87 GD45 Gaming
Power Supply: Seasonic Platinum 760 Watts

Now Before i was using:

Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport Pc3-12800(1600Mhz) 
2x4 Gb (8gb on dual channels) 8-8-8-24@1

Harddrive: Corsair Neutron GTX 128 Gb SSD

Since a moment i have upgraded my Hardrive to a couple of 2 Samsung 850 Evo 500 Gb SSD on a Raid 0 and then i got 1 Tb.  I use this Raid to install System and game on it and the First one to save somes datas.
I gained in PlanetSide 2 15 ips on maximum hit and 10 ips average all over the map.
Since i have upgraded my Memory:
HyperX FURY Pc3-12800(1600Mhz)
2x8 Gb (16Gb on dual channels) 8-8-8-24@1

I gained responsivness, speed for system usage and in game i gained 5-10 fps on drop only,  it's an average but it's approximatively that. I could notice a better smoothness in general.
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« Reply #21 on: 16-November-17, 10:50:56 »

Gaming laptops are a niche market and logically it doesn't make much sense to me. Most people aren't traveling with their gaming laptop as they are usually quite heavy. Gaming laptops are at least 1.5 times more expensive than a equivalent desktop. (Usually much more than that). A gaming desktop doesn't need to be a bulky full tower, but without the ability to upgrade and change to the gaming market, its a waste of money. Although, some people don't care and use computers as throw-away devices after a few years (Apple).

Mobility is the only thing that's better about laptops, and for me it counts. 
-As a med student, I move around. This year I've had to move out of my school because of Hurricane Irma and move out from where the relocated us because the place couldn't handle flux of students being evacuated. So if you count the travel going to med school, that's 3 trips. Would I rather carry my 15 lb laptop, or a desktop case and keyboard, mouse, and monitor? Yeah. Laptop definitely.
-Emergencies: So this is a very situational case but I actually was in the eye of Irma and it was bad. Lots of apartments were wrecked and entire buildings were flattened. After the hurricane passed and they were evacuating us, I was allowed one personal bag (my backpack). My laptop fits in my backpack. There's no way in hell a desktop, keyboard, mouse, monitor would be able to come with me. It would probably be in my wrecked apartment right now, swimming with fishes. But since I've invested in a MSI Gaming laptop, I can still game or study or work at lightning speed.
-Set up ANYWHERE: Airports, starbucks, library, friend's house, kitchen. Not having a desktop means I can find time and a place to get work done (gaming or academically) any time and any place. You don't know how many jealous looks I get from desktop only people. 

-I have a GT73VR 7RE Titan and honestly this brick is faster than any desktop I've ever used. I never have to worry about my laptop being unable to handle something my desktop could. If the only downside to a gaming laptop is that it is heavy, then I'd stick to laptop. The mobilization of my workspace is much more important than walking around with weights. And with gear like this, I won't have to upgrade for 5+ years. It's a worthwhile investment I'd say. Honestly it feels like a conversion from a landline to a cellphone, and I don't even have a landline any more. I think laptops are gonna catch up to desktop performance in the near future if it already hasn't. My MSI laptop sure makes a strong case that it already has.
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