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« Reply #200 on: 12-July-17, 13:17:39 »

The latest beta's out VA61, going to try after I have some free time.
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« Reply #201 on: 12-July-17, 14:07:36 »

I suggest that you stay away from this board.... Mine came with a dead PCIE slot. It's been RMA'd twice to no effect. Trying to get a return right now because this is just unacceptable. Not even that but the RAM that's advertised to run with this board does not... All in all a poor product and marketing.. If the RAM doesn't work, why put it on the compatibility list? My guess is so they could sell it to more people... I was so excited for Ryzen but this board has killed my hopes and dreams.
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« Reply #202 on: 12-July-17, 14:25:02 »

I suggest that you stay away from this board.... Mine came with a dead PCIE slot. It's been RMA'd twice to no effect. Trying to get a return right now because this is just unacceptable. Not even that but the RAM that's advertised to run with this board does not... All in all a poor product and marketing.. If the RAM doesn't work, why put it on the compatibility list? My guess is so they could sell it to more people... I was so excited for Ryzen but this board has killed my hopes and dreams.
See : >>Please read and comply with the Forum Rules.<<

This isn't the place to complain about the poor support. There is nothing we can do to help with that here, and it doesn't help anyone.
As far as RAM, it does work. But more goes into determining what speeds you'll get than just the simple label on the side that says it does 3200.....

It's your second post here since making an account, 10 minutes ago. Not a good way to go about getting support at all....
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« Reply #203 on: 12-July-17, 14:35:21 »

I appreciate the advice. Also, thanks for posting the forum rules/guidelines.

He asked about advice on the particular board I purchased, and I let him know my experience. The support was part of it so I feel that is pertinent information because after the first RMA failed to address the issue, they wouldn't let me return it, only RMA again. Which was just as helpful as it was the first time.

Also, if you can't get the board to post with the RAM installed, you can't do anything to adjust the speed of the RAM. I would consider that non-functional.
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« Reply #204 on: 12-July-17, 18:35:10 »

Hi,
got Ryzen 1700 on B350 PC Mate with  Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4, 2x8GB, 3200MHz, CL16 (CMK16GX4M2B3200C16).
I've flashed the BIOS to v.61
I've bumped ram to 1,36 V, NB/SOC to 1,2 V and tried all "Memory try it" settings from 3200 Mhz down and cant get pass 2667 Mhz (and on 2667 mhz it actually runs at 14-16-16-34 with 1,2 dram & auto NB/SOC).
This memory is of course rated compliant at full speed for this motherboard but no luck so far.

Did anyone had luck going higher ? if yes then please post timings and voltage info.
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« Reply #205 on: 12-July-17, 18:38:18 »

Hi,
got Ryzen 1700 on B350 PC Mate with  Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4, 2x8GB, 3200MHz, CL16 (CMK16GX4M2B3200C16).
I've flashed the BIOS to v.61
I've bumped ram to 1,36 V, NB/SOC to 1,2 V and tried all "Memory try it" settings from 3200 Mhz down and cant get pass 2667 Mhz (and on 2667 mhz it actually runs at 14-16-16-34 with 1,2 dram & auto NB/SOC).
This memory is of course rated compliant at full speed for this motherboard but no luck so far.

Did anyone had luck going higher ? if yes then please post timings and voltage info.

That memory is known to have 2 different versions, one of which has samsung b-die, and another that has SK Hynix and doesn't work well with Ryzen (hence the lower than expected speeds).
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« Reply #206 on: 12-July-17, 21:04:46 »

Hi,
got Ryzen 1700 on B350 PC Mate with  Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4, 2x8GB, 3200MHz, CL16 (CMK16GX4M2B3200C16).
I've flashed the BIOS to v.61
I've bumped ram to 1,36 V, NB/SOC to 1,2 V and tried all "Memory try it" settings from 3200 Mhz down and cant get pass 2667 Mhz (and on 2667 mhz it actually runs at 14-16-16-34 with 1,2 dram & auto NB/SOC).
This memory is of course rated compliant at full speed for this motherboard but no luck so far.

Did anyone had luck going higher ? if yes then please post timings and voltage info.
Try to rise timings to lets say CL17 and DRAM voltage to 1,4v, and before all of that set all timings, xmps, memorty tyrs to AUTO, then manually set 3000/3200mhz. Also check if your memory is command rate 1 or 2.
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« Reply #207 on: 12-July-17, 22:13:40 »

I'm 44% through updating to the va.50 bios, and it seems to have hung.  anyone have advice on how long to wait for it?  how to recover?  it's been about 20 minutes so far.  previous bios upgrades only took a few minutes.

fingers crossed.  

thanks!
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« Reply #208 on: 13-July-17, 21:38:35 »

I'm 44% through updating to the va.50 bios, and it seems to have hung.  anyone have advice on how long to wait for it?  how to recover?  it's been about 20 minutes so far.  previous bios upgrades only took a few minutes.

fingers crossed.  

thanks!

best open new own topic about such issues
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« Reply #209 on: 14-July-17, 14:19:46 »

So I`m not the best when it comes to new CPUs and don`t know all the tech stuff does anyone know how I can get the best gaming perfomance from the CPU feature settings in Bios anything I should turn off on or set?
My CPU is a Ryzen 5 1600 and motherboard is msi B350 pcmate I use this machine only for gaming mostly Battlefield 1 I don`t care much for multi threading perfomance.
I don`t want to overclock as I got to 3800mhz but my GPU went slow as hell, anyways its plenty enough on stock so I don`t mind.
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« Reply #210 on: 16-July-17, 22:06:47 »

I just flashed my b350 Mate to VA61 and the only difference i saw, is the bitcoin mining setting for being able to use up to 4 graphicscards? Is that right? i tried to tighten my RAM timing from 2800MHz 18 to 2800MHz 16. So I guess i found my RAM speed limits, unless i overvoltage my RAM. So no improvements there, going from VA53 to VA61. BTW. is there a way to save your BIOS fan-curves only? Thanks ^^
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« Reply #211 on: 19-July-17, 08:07:23 »

Hi friends, it's the first time I write here, and the first MSI Motherboard I own.
I assembled my B350 PC MATE with a Ryzen 1400, and 8GB of DDR4 RAM rated at 3000MHz. They are Corsair Vengeance LPX CMK8GX4M2B3000C15R. Bios is at the latest official version V5
I can't boot with RAM set at 2800 or more, and at 2666 the system is unstable. I tried everything, XMP, voltage to 1.35V, manually set timings... Until now I can only use the system with RAM at 2133. CPU is running at stock settings.

This RAM is not on the compatobility list, but very similar models are, for example the 16gb kit, 3200MHz, C16, is in the list working at 3200MHz, why mine with half the capacity and C15, can't run at its 3000MHz rating?
Any suggestion or ideas?
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« Reply #212 on: 19-July-17, 11:05:25 »

Hi friends, it's the first time I write here, and the first MSI Motherboard I own.
I assembled my B350 PC MATE with a Ryzen 1400, and 8GB of DDR4 RAM rated at 3000MHz. They are Corsair Vengeance LPX CMK8GX4M2B3000C15R. Bios is at the latest official version V5
I can't boot with RAM set at 2800 or more, and at 2666 the system is unstable. I tried everything, XMP, voltage to 1.35V, manually set timings... Until now I can only use the system with RAM at 2133. CPU is running at stock settings.

This RAM is not on the compatobility list, but very similar models are, for example the 16gb kit, 3200MHz, C16, is in the list working at 3200MHz, why mine with half the capacity and C15, can't run at its 3000MHz rating?
Any suggestion or ideas?

In case you've been hiding under a rock, Ryzen is very sensitive to the manufacturer of the DRAM modules.
On top of that, just because you get 3000 MHz modules, doesn't mean your CPU will definitely do 3000 MHz on it's IMC. So yes, the modules might work, but how do you know your CPU will?
See : https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=283351.0 for more discussion and a list of what is officially supported and guaranteed to work. Expecting it to get higher than what is guaranteed is overclocking, and may or may not work.
Also, if you only set your DRAM voltage to 1.35, you haven't done 'everything'.....and you should probably read a guide that properly explains how to setup your DRAM.
See : https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=286610.0
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« Reply #213 on: 20-July-17, 09:07:40 »

I've already read overclocking guides and a lot of information regarding DRAM on Ryzen
I don't expect to run the 3000 Mhz rated modules at its rated frequency, I'm just trying to run it at 2400MHz, and I wasn't able to have rock solid stability even with very loose timings, RAM voltage 1.35v and NB voltage 1v. It's not overclock, just normal frequencies for DDR4. I'm rock solid only at 2133MHz.
I suspect that the RAM modules are faulty, now I ordered a new 16GB set (Corsair CMK16GX4M2B3200C16R that is on the compatibility list), they are being shipped, let's see if I'll be lucky.
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« Reply #214 on: 20-July-17, 17:29:09 »

Maybe try to rise NB/SOC voltage to 1,2, and dram voltage up to 1,5
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« Reply #215 on: 21-July-17, 22:45:57 »

Arrived today Corsair CMK16GX4M2B3200C16R, Vengeance LPX 2x8GB. 
They are Version 5.39, Hynix chips single sided. I know that the best is to have the version with Samsung chips, but when you buy you never know wich one you get.

But they are working very well, now at 3066MHz 16-18-18-36 2T 1.35v, NB/SOC voltage at 1V. Let's see if they will go to 3200 but I'm really satisfied.

I think that the previous kit 2x4GB was faulty
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« Reply #216 on: 22-July-17, 03:53:32 »

Arrived today Corsair CMK16GX4M2B3200C16R, Vengeance LPX 2x8GB.
They are Version 5.39, Hynix chips single sided. I know that the best is to have the version with Samsung chips, but when you buy you never know wich one you get.

But they are working very well, now at 3066MHz 16-18-18-36 2T 1.35v, NB/SOC voltage at 1V. Let's see if they will go to 3200 but I'm really satisfied.

I think that the previous kit 2x4GB was faulty

It's quite possible. I mean, we've seen a number of users with crappy performance with hynix/micron memory. 

DDR4 really tends to be a crap shoot when new systems are released. X99 was bad, Z170 was really bad, and even Z270 still had its issues.
Ryzen has been pretty bad too, in general. And I think that's more the users just being unhappy with not hitting XXXX frequency that they think they should just automatically be able to hit if the memory supports up to XXXX frequency. 
The benchmarks were done, and it's pretty evident the difference between 2133 and 2933 is pretty drastic at times, up to 20 or 30% increase in some games.
Meanwhile, the difference between 2933 and 3200 is very minor, 2 to 3% improvement in some of the best cases.  Which really makes hitting that 3200 MHz almost pointless outside of benchmarks to be honest.
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« Reply #217 on: 22-July-17, 15:46:47 »

I bought another  8G Hyperx HX424C15FB/8 stick of ram to upgrade to 16gb and it beeps before bios every time I shutdown or restart If I load  in default or manually setting it does not make a difference which does not make seance if it boots anyway any help?
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« Reply #218 on: 22-July-17, 20:08:19 »

Well, I bought this motherboard 3 months ago and when I update the last bios (7A34vA5) the network onboard died. I went to the guarantee and they changed it without problems. With the memories (cmk16gx4m2b3200c16) they work perfectly at 3200 from the beta bios VA.51. Happy with motherboard
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« Reply #219 on: 29-July-17, 10:10:02 »

I bought another  8G Hyperx HX424C15FB/8 stick of ram to upgrade to 16gb and it beeps before bios every time I shutdown or restart If I load  in default or manually setting it does not make a difference which does not make seance if it boots anyway any help?

You should always buy your ram in pairs, if you don't it is not guaranteed they will work together.
My advise, return the stick or sticks if you still can and buy a pair in your case a set of 2x8G.
Good luck!
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« Reply #220 on: 01-August-17, 23:06:57 »

Can anyone tell me if the Corsair Dominator Platinum 16GB (2x8) 3000Mhz C15 (CMD16GX4M2B3000C15) sticks are compatible with this motherboard? I know that they are not in the compatibility list in the website, but I want to know if anyone tried to make them work.
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« Reply #221 on: 02-August-17, 02:23:17 »

Can anyone tell me if the Corsair Dominator Platinum 16GB (2x8) 3000Mhz C15 (CMD16GX4M2B3000C15) sticks are compatible with this motherboard? I know that they are not in the compatibility list in the website, but I want to know if anyone tried to make them work.

The RAM will most likely work....however it might not operate at 3000 MHz. You might only get 2933, or maybe only 2667 MHz. Memory with Samsung B-die tends to have the best performance and chances at hitting the rated speed.
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« Reply #222 on: 06-August-17, 12:45:06 »

My currently memory is Corsair Vengeance Red Kit 2x4GB but with SK Hynix memory chips ant it wouldn't go upper than 2667MHz whatever i do :(

I don't accept statements that a Ryzen is picky with memory... Not at all.
The memory controler is buil in CPU but that's mean that almost every second Ryzen have a faulty mem. contorler and that's a piece of a **it (excuse for bad word).
Problem is in memory, mobo BIOS, implementation of a manufacturer(s) and agesa codes...
Cant tell me that same memory working perfect on ASUS mid budget nobo with same Ryzen and dont working on MSI? Is there any logyc?
ASUS mobo sweep memory that PC Mate will not (and does not matter that is Hynix, Micron or Samsung chips onboard)!
...
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« Reply #223 on: 06-August-17, 13:25:26 »

My currently memory is Corsair Vengeance Red Kit 2x4GB but with SK Hynix memory chips ant it wouldn't go upper than 2667MHz whatever i do :(

I don't accept statements that a Ryzen is picky with memory... Not at all.
The memory controler is buil in CPU but that's mean that almost every second Ryzen have a faulty mem. contorler and that's a piece of a **it (excuse for bad word).
Problem is in memory, mobo BIOS, implementation of a manufacturer(s) and agesa codes...
Cant tell me that same memory working perfect on ASUS mid budget nobo with same Ryzen and dont working on MSI? Is there any logyc?
ASUS mobo sweep memory that PC Mate will not (and does not matter that is Hynix, Micron or Samsung chips onboard)!
...

Say what you want, it doesn't change the truth. You can live in whatever fantasy realm you want, most of us live in reality. 

We know the controller has limitations. If it didn't, don't you think AMD would have made the specifications higher than 2667MHz? 

Obviously AMD isn't confident in their ability to guarantee operation above 2667MHz, otherwise the specification would be higher. You can't change that, and no amount of 'disbelief' won't change the hardware. 

Part of it is certainly AMD and it's adjusting to using DDR4, as this is their first venture into using that memory type. Intel went through the same issues, and we had TONS of users complaining about DDR4 compatibility for months as Intel worked out the bugs via op code updates. Just like AMD is going through.

And I won't deny that MSI's BIOS's may not be the best (they aren't....not by far), but considering that a good bit of this coding comes from AMD and not MSI......
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« Reply #224 on: 06-August-17, 17:33:35 »

Let's resume.
I don't blame MSI!
Just wondering where is a problem that a lot of a memory don't working with Ryzen (abowe 2667) and seems no one tried to resolve problem :( or a problem reolving is too slow?
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« Reply #225 on: 06-August-17, 18:24:31 »

 or a problem reolving is too slow?

Then go Intel instead. Where users can easily get 3600+ memory working.

Unfortunately, whether people want to admit it or not, Ryzen wasn't finished when  they released it. Similar to the X99 and Z170 series and how they weren't really complete upon release either, especially in terms of memory.
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« Reply #226 on: 06-August-17, 20:37:22 »

All that being said about Ryzen and RAM, Theres a new beta BIOS out, being labeled A62 you can get at the usual MSI forum spot that seems to have improved RAM compatibility further. I can run my RAM at 2800MHz with the tightest timings listed at "Try It!" now wirthout any issues; might even be able to go higher in MHz; didn't try that yet. Even tho I use pretty tight timings now, they seem to get applied in a more "relaxed" way, since AIDA64 RAM test scores are a little lower than last time i tried those 2800MHz with the same timing, reliably. Still, this A62 BIOS seems to be working nicely.
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« Reply #227 on: 06-August-17, 22:07:35 »

All that being said about Ryzen and RAM, Theres a new beta BIOS out, being labeled A62 you can get at the usual MSI forum spot that seems to have improved RAM compatibility further. I can run my RAM at 2800MHz with the tightest timings listed at "Try It!" now wirthout any issues; might even be able to go higher in MHz; didn't try that yet. Even tho I use pretty tight timings now, they seem to get applied in a more "relaxed" way, since AIDA64 RAM test scores are a little lower than last time i tried those 2800MHz with the same timing, reliably. Still, this A62 BIOS seems to be working nicely.

Yeah. I posted that on Friday I think it was. The updates have become more sporadic, most likely due to the X299 and impending X399 releases.
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« Reply #228 on: 09-August-17, 13:08:56 »

Dear all,
I have some problems with my Msi B350 Mate and hope you may have a tip for me.

My system:
Ryzen 7 1700
MSI B350 Mate (A62 Beta)
2x 8 GB G.Skill Flare X DDR4-3200 CL14 (F4-3200C14D-16GFX)
Palit Nvidia 970 GTX
Samsung SSD

My system never starts at the first attempt. The fans are running and it does not go any further. After 2-3 reboots Windows starts and works fine, but the RAM is always loaded in the minimum configuration 2400 Mhz 16-16-16-38. If I change something in the BIOS Ram settings, the system reboots 5 times and minimum configuration of the RAM is reloaded. Even if I manually adjust the minimum configuration, the system reboots 5 times and loads the emergency settings.

I have tried:

The stable Bios version before updating to beta
Loading standard settings and leaving everything on auto
Another Ram (F4-3200C16D-16GVKB Hynix 5.39). This was my first Ram, then I bought the Flare with Samsung B-Die. Nothing changed, except the minimal config of the Hynix was 2133 Mhz
Setting NB Voltage to 1.100 and DDR4 Voltage to 1.350
XMP 1+2
All usefull Memory Try It! settings 
 
Nothing changed the strange boot behavior. I don’t want to overclock my Ram to the limit, I just wish for a PC that boots at the first attempt. Maybe you have an idea?

Thank you very much and kind regards
Chris from germany, I hope you can read my english ;-)
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« Reply #229 on: 10-August-17, 08:36:26 »

HI,
mainboard is set to try lunch 5 times memory settings if it fails then it reverts to safe settings and starts normally.
You can change the failed retry number if you change the OC mode in bios to expert. (3 will suffice)


Thus your problem is with wrong memory settings. Your memory (F4-3200C14D-16GFX) is not on official compatibility list so it's a lottery on which settings it will run.

First try to get it to run on 2667 mhz (this is maximal supported frequency for 2 memory banks for ryzen without overclocking), if you achieve that then you can try going higher.

From basic things be sure that your memory is in proper banks (see manual for that) because in ryzen it matters to which dim bank on mainboard the memory is inserted into.

Be sure to have Command rate in memory timings set for 2 cycles. Set the NB voltage to something around 1,15-1,2 V and a bit more voltage on memory than they are to run on in default mode (so if you have 1,35 voltage for 3200 mhz according to memory spec then run it on 1,36 -1,37

When you try to run the memory then run them on insanely slow timings to just check if they will hold the frequency. So for example try settings like 3200 mhz 20-20-20-20-40, 3066 20-20-20-20-40 and so on, each time one step down with frequency.

When you'll find the highest frequency on which the memory will hold then start to play with timings. Good point to start is the default timings for your memory at their maximum speed according to specs. (14-14-14-34-2T if I'm correct) If they run on those timings then you can try to bump them one by one down or play on safe side and stay at those timings.

After all that when you have stable memory (by stable i mean working under stress or synthetic memory test like memtest86) you can start to lower voltages you've bumped in the beginning. Firstly dram memory to spec standard then NB (also step by step till you find the lowest or standard voltage that do not produce errors).

On that note if you have situation that on given speed/timings/voltage memory starts sometimes after 1 try sometimes after 2 or more then bump NB voltage a bit it should help.


This way i managed to get my Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4, 2x8GB, 3200MHz, CL16 (CMK16GX4M2B3200C16R) to work on 2800 mhz on 15-14-14-14-32-2T timings where it's also unsupported because they're on hynix dies instead of samsung :(

If anyone have better or faster way of checking ram then let me know (i normally lose 2 days for this), and chapek let me know on what settings did you manage to run your mem.
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« Reply #230 on: 10-August-17, 10:15:43 »

Hi altarotw, thank you very much für your answer. I will try the higher voltages and the 2T command rate in the evening.
What I dont understand is, that if I reset my bios, the ram is set to 2400 mhz, 16-16-16-38 automatic and this is the only possibility, the system starts. If I make a minimal change to 2400 mhz 16-16-16-40, which is slower then the automatic timings, the result is 5 times try launch. It seems, that the board doesnt accept any changes to the ram at all.
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« Reply #231 on: 10-August-17, 22:09:31 »

Hi!
I returned my faulty RX480 and I'm using my old PC right now unfortunately.
I have a question. My mobo has7A34vA4 BIOS version.

As I remember, my mobo lights CPU fault indicator LED for some seconds in booting.
After that all debug Leds are turned off and mobo runs Win 10 from HDD.

I tried my CPU with these tests :


AIDA64 stres test, 30 minutes à no problem
Cinebench R15 à 10 times without letting the CPU cooling down.àno problem
885 mp3 files converted  àno problem
OCCT default, 10 minutesàno problem
1.5 GB video to 6 GB (converted with high bitrate option and H265 AVC codec with Format Factory program.), 3 hours and 15 minutes.  à  no problem
I run OCCT stress test with default settings for 1 hour --> NO ERROR.
I run HWinfo at last 30 minutes of OCCT test. --> 0 WHEA error.

20 minutes Prime95 Blend Test à  WHEA error= no error, no problem.

So, will my CPU is faulty one or the mobo BIOS has a bug ?
You know, A4 BIOS has a bug that it lights GPU LED. A5 BIOS solved the problem as far as i know.
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« Reply #232 on: 10-August-17, 22:42:30 »

Does anyone know if in PC Mate bios will be implemented P-states tweaking ?

My 1700 OC smoothly to 3900 but I'm uncomfortable to run in on this clock all the time. Instead of multiplier OC (which turns off throttling down)  i would prefer to tweak p0 state for 3,9 ghz and p3 for let say 1,5 ghz to "preserve" longevity of my CPU.

Darkhawk got any info on this ?
If not maybe a place/person i could ask ?
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« Reply #233 on: 12-August-17, 04:30:28 »

you can ask here >>How to contact MSI.<<
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« Reply #234 on: 14-August-17, 00:22:40 »

Does anyone know if in PC Mate bios will be implemented P-states tweaking ?

My 1700 OC smoothly to 3900 but I'm uncomfortable to run in on this clock all the time. Instead of multiplier OC (which turns off throttling down)  i would prefer to tweak p0 state for 3,9 ghz and p3 for let say 1,5 ghz to "preserve" longevity of my CPU.

Darkhawk got any info on this ?
If not maybe a place/person i could ask ?

Contact MSI directly......
however.....

The last time I spoke to them about this, they were fairly certain that it would not be implemented.....

The CPU should down-clock when it's idle. If it doesn't, then it's probably an issue within Windows.
As far as I'm aware, all the AM4 boards, when overclocked (with all the CnQ and C6 states enabled and such) should still down-clock the CPU, but will not change the VCore if you have changed it to some voltage (ie 1.35V for instance).
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« Reply #235 on: 15-August-17, 11:35:15 »

Apparently my samsung 960 evo m.2 nvme drive is running really hot since it is sitting under my amd r9 390 graphics card.
As a solution I am considering something like a pcie x4 expansion card to keep it more out of the way and better ventilated.
My question is will I be able to boot from the drive this way or not?
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« Reply #236 on: 15-August-17, 11:40:34 »

It should work just fine assuming you aren't running any SLI/crossfire GPU's.
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« Reply #237 on: 16-August-17, 04:26:50 »

Hi all, looking for some help before I give up on this. I'm running a Ryzen 5 1600X with B350 PC Mate and 2x8GB of Corsair Vengeance 3000mhz (cmk16gx4m2b3000c15r). I previously have been running a different set of RAM with no issues.
I cannot get the pc to post with the new sticks. Things I've tried:
* using one stick at a time in all 4 slots
* manually setting voltage and timings
* reset cmos
* both XMP settings
* various memory Try It settings

My BIOS was at the latest released version, and I even flashed to the newest beta hoping that might work. I'm not sure what else to try. The RAM was working in an Intel build previously. Any help is greatly appreciated.
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« Reply #238 on: 16-August-17, 11:24:47 »

It should work just fine assuming you aren't running any SLI/crossfire GPU's.

Thanks I might give that a try then!
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« Reply #239 on: 16-August-17, 19:50:26 »

Hello again.
I want to inform that new BIOS A60 indeed shorts the time of boot of the pc.  Before on A50 time by task menager: ~18s, by stopwatch (from power buttom to log in window) 28s, now respectively 14,6s and 22s.
I have question about CLDO_VDDP, when I want to set some value, the help bar says that I need to manually restart the PC if remeber correctly? However after changing this setting and save-f10 the pc restarts with powering off itself. Does it mean I still need to shut it down completly in some way or its error in help bar?

Please can somebody write step by step how to change  CLDO_VDDP  in proper way?
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« Reply #240 on: 16-August-17, 20:59:14 »

Hello again.
I want to inform that new BIOS A60 indeed shorts the time of boot of the pc.  Before on A50 time by task menager: ~18s, by stopwatch (from power buttom to log in window) 28s, now respectively 14,6s and 22s.
I have question about CLDO_VDDP, when I want to set some value, the help bar says that I need to manually restart the PC if remeber correctly? However after changing this setting and save-f10 the pc restarts with powering off itself. Does it mean I still need to shut it down completly in some way or its error in help bar?

Please can somebody write step by step how to change CLDO_VDDP in proper way?

It's merely letting you know that the change doesn't take effect on a 'reboot or restart', and that you need to shutdown (ie power off the PC), then turn it on in order for it to take effect.
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« Reply #241 on: 23-August-17, 03:52:57 »

Has anyone upgraded to 7A34vA6?

I'm having some issues the system feels sluggish USB ports sometimes cycle power now for a split second but its enough that I have to reboot to get my wacom tablet working again.

I'm also see this on boot now the BIOS screen how stays and overs the windows boot screen.

 
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« Reply #242 on: 24-August-17, 09:22:53 »

Has anyone upgraded to 7A34vA6?

I'm having some issues the system feels sluggish USB ports sometimes cycle power now for a split second but its enough that I have to reboot to get my wacom tablet working again.

I'm also see this on boot now the BIOS screen how stays and overs the windows boot screen.

I have the newest BIOS, can't say that have any problems becouse of that. You cant 'disable in BIOS the logo on boot in boot settings. Only problem that I have and few other ppl is after any unsuccsesfull attempt of overcolocking RAM- mostly i belive. the CPU clock buggs, it still shows in BIOS its at OC clock that I set, but in Windows any app confirms that it returened to default clock in my case 3600mhz from 3950. It happans sinse the BIOS with agesa 1006 update. Only way to fix that is to change clock speed to another value, save, reboot, change clock back to what we want.
BTW do you have latest chipset drivers and windows updates, it rather looks like windows issue for me.
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« Reply #243 on: 24-August-17, 11:32:52 »

I have the newest BIOS, can't say that have any problems becouse of that. You cant 'disable in BIOS the logo on boot in boot settings. Only problem that I have and few other ppl is after any unsuccsesfull attempt of overcolocking RAM- mostly i belive. the CPU clock buggs, it still shows in BIOS its at OC clock that I set, but in Windows any app confirms that it returened to default clock in my case 3600mhz from 3950. It happans sinse the BIOS with agesa 1006 update. Only way to fix that is to change clock speed to another value, save, reboot, change clock back to what we want.
BTW do you have latest chipset drivers and windows updates, it rather looks like windows issue for me.

Here is better info on my issue (I never OC)

MB: MSI B350 PC MATE
CPU: 1600
RAM: HyperX HX424C15FBK2/8

1) Windows feels really slow like opening chrome, Autodesk and ZBrush all take longer to open, I'm seeing the loading mouse more often also in task manager on idle everything is at 0% CPU usage I'm sure even on idle before at least some things where at ~1-5% but even with chrome with heaps of tabs and youtube running windows is reporting its only using ~0.5% CPU that does not seem right.
2) I have noticed sometimes (like 1 to 3 times a day) my USB's will power cycle for a split second (I'll see the RGB lights on my keyboard and mouse flash and my Wacom tablet will then no longer be detected by windows and needs a reset)
3) The BIOS splash screen staying after post on the windows boot screen never done that before.

Things I have tried fix the issue

1) Reinstall Windows,
3) Reset CMOS
4) Try a different PSU
5) I tried upgrading the chipset drivers using the ones from AMD's website.
6) Downgrade BIOS back to A5

Nothing seems to fix the issue :/

EDIT: Just ran a stresstest does this all look normal?

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B99cARK8CDnVMVVGVE82bE9vLXM
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« Reply #244 on: 25-August-17, 08:45:56 »

In general 10min is not enough to test enything. Try to use better prime95 standard test for RAM and CPU for about an 1 hour/ or AIDA64 test. You have low frequency RAM, but still I would check if you don't have RAM configuration problem. Do you have set in BIOS XMP profile  for RAM? If yes, try to disable it, to make RAM run at standard DDR4 speed- 2133mhz, and then check the PC behavior.
And before RAM maybe, check your HDD drives, with some program like crystal disk info, maybe HDD is dying.
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« Reply #245 on: 26-August-17, 07:49:40 »

In general 10min is not enough to test enything. Try to use better prime95 standard test for RAM and CPU for about an 1 hour/ or AIDA64 test. You have low frequency RAM, but still I would check if you don't have RAM configuration problem. Do you have set in BIOS XMP profile  for RAM? If yes, try to disable it, to make RAM run at standard DDR4 speed- 2133mhz, and then check the PC behavior.
And before RAM maybe, check your HDD drives, with some program like crystal disk info, maybe HDD is dying.

I fixed my issue by changing my motherboard out to anther brand no more laggy windows.
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« Reply #246 on: 06-September-17, 06:58:30 »

Dear all,
I have some problems with my Msi B350 Mate and hope you may have a tip for me.

My system:
Ryzen 7 1700
MSI B350 Mate (A62 Beta)
2x 8 GB G.Skill Flare X DDR4-3200 CL14 (F4-3200C14D-16GFX)
Palit Nvidia 970 GTX
Samsung SSD

My system never starts at the first attempt. The fans are running and it does not go any further. After 2-3 reboots Windows starts and works fine, but the RAM is always loaded in the minimum configuration 2400 Mhz 16-16-16-38. If I change something in the BIOS Ram settings, the system reboots 5 times and minimum configuration of the RAM is reloaded. Even if I manually adjust the minimum configuration, the system reboots 5 times and loads the emergency settings.

I have tried:

The stable Bios version before updating to beta
Loading standard settings and leaving everything on auto
Another Ram (F4-3200C16D-16GVKB Hynix 5.39). This was my first Ram, then I bought the Flare with Samsung B-Die. Nothing changed, except the minimal config of the Hynix was 2133 Mhz
Setting NB Voltage to 1.100 and DDR4 Voltage to 1.350
XMP 1+2
All usefull Memory Try It! settings
 
Nothing changed the strange boot behavior. I don’t want to overclock my Ram to the limit, I just wish for a PC that boots at the first attempt. Maybe you have an idea?

Thank you very much and kind regards
Chris from germany, I hope you can read my english ;-)

Hello Msi-Community,
I've tried a lot of things since I last asked about the problem here and now I strongly believe in a faulty motherboard. Perhaps you can confirm my suspicion here. I think the complete B-Cannel is not working properly.

A1-empty
A2-DIMM
B1-empty
B2-DIMM
Thats how MSI recommends it. This leads to problems. Bios shows both dimms, but only 8gb memory, Windows shows 16gb memory, only 8gb available. Also, poor boot behavior and no settings on the ram possible.

A1-empty
A2-DIMM
B1-empty
B2-empty
perfect

A1-DIMM
A2-empty
B1-empty
B2-empty
perfect

A1-empty
A2-empty
B1-empty
B2-DIMM
no boot

A1-empty
A2-empty
B1-DIMM
B2-empty
no boot

A1-DIMM
A2-DIMM
B1-empty
B2-empty
Boot with 16 gb in Bios, but naturally no Dual Channel.

My question is whether the PC should boot up if only B1 or B2 are occupied with a DIMM?
many thanks and greetings, Chris
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« Reply #247 on: 08-September-17, 07:54:30 »

You can chceck  memory if it works fine by checking if PC boots with first RAM stick alone and if it boots with secend alone too and with memtest to be sure. But for now it looks like that one or both of B slots for RAM are damaged, i would take motherboard off the case and look very closly if there are no bended pins in RAM socekt. I would try to give motherboard back on warranty. The memory speeds are matter of right configuration.
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« Reply #248 on: 11-September-17, 20:56:36 »

Hello! 
This is my first build and I'm having some problems with the RAM. If someone could give me a tip of what to do I would really appreciate it.
 
My system boots and functions just fine when I only use one ram stick in the A2 slot, but whenever I try to use my second stick in the B2 slot (as msi recommends) the system won't boot. I've tried clearing the CMOS memory and several BIOS configurations (which I set by booting with one stick) with conservative settings (2133 MHz and different sets of timings) but so far the system won't boot with both sticks.
I've tried switching the sticks and they both function properly in the A2 slot. 
I haven't tried using a different slot yet, but if I understand correctly this would disable dual channel and that would reduce performance, right?
I'm using two sticks of Corsair vengenace LPX 8G 2400 (CMK8GX4M1A2400C14), which I've seen is not in the list of compatible RAM, but similar models are :(

What do you think? Is there something else I could try? Should I get different RAM? Should I RMA the motherboard?

Btw I'm using a ryzen 1600 and I'm not overclocking.
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« Reply #249 on: 12-September-17, 10:58:29 »

Have you checked to make sure the CPU pins are all OK?
Have you tried slots A1 and B1 with both sticks of memory?
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