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Title: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: flobelix on 11-November-14, 21:59:59
The much discussed issue with fans of GTX 970 GAMING 4G randomly starting to run in idle (https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=184333.50) seems to be fixed with a vbios update. To point this out: These are official MSI files and no vbios mods

A very big thanks goes out to the German MSI forum and their moderator wiesel201 who pointed me to >>his thread<< (http://forum-de.msi.com/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=107032) and the files on the German forum.

To get started you first need to identify the correct vbios for your card. Therefor you need to check the card's S/N.

Example of a GTX 970 GAMING 4G's S/N: 602-V316-03SB1409025XXX

The number code marked red representing the card's batch is relevant for identifying the correct vbios. The table below shows which vbios applies to which batch number.

If you are unsure which one to use always ask one of the moderators or admins instead of hoping for the best!

09S / 03S / 010   NV316MH.182 -> to download NV316MH_182.rar

10S / 04S / 020   NV316MH.191 -> to download NV316MH_191.rar

11S / 05S / 030   NV316MH.1A1 -> to download NV316MH_1A1.rar

For our example card with the S/N 602-V316-03SB1409025XXX NV316MH.182 is the correct vbios so NV316MH_182.rar needs to be downloaded.

After downloading the matching archive first uninstall the Nvidia driver (!) then simply decompress the archive and then execute the included batch file (182.bat in case of NV316MH.182's archive) in Windows by double clicking or via command prompt (must be run as administrator)

Quote from: wiesel201 in http://forum-de.msi.com/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=107032
(http://217.110.237.70/wiesel201/Bilder/GTX970.jpg)



Same like above now also applies to the GTX980 Gaming series:

03s / 13s  NV317MH.112 -> to download NV317MH_112.rar
06s / 14s  NV317MH.131 -> to download NV317MH_131.rar
11s / 15s  NV317MH.143 -> to download NV317MH_143.rar
12s / 16s  NV317MH.153 -> to download NV317MH_153.rar

Thanks again wiesel201!




*Please note that this just covers the issue with the fans randomly starting and not the problem of one fan not starting at all on earlier cards which is a defect that requires rma.*





 
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: Tares on 11-November-14, 22:04:29
Lets the flashing begin!

People, report your results :)
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: wiesel201 on 11-November-14, 22:07:14
 :hat tip:

I flahed my GTX970 Gaming 4G some hours ago, now i have no more randomly turning on issue with the 344.65 driver.
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: psychic717 on 11-November-14, 22:26:37
Thanks a lot!
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: Lizard_of_bodom on 11-November-14, 22:29:01
Well, congratz  :agrees:
1 problem solved :]
now the same for 980 please  :worship:
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: wiesel201 on 11-November-14, 22:39:36
now the same for 980 please  :worship:
I just it made the abload at the german forum, flobelix will post it here...  :yes:
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: Varg on 11-November-14, 22:39:48
Flashed my own card and the problem is solved! :lalala:

Next on the to do list is the card of my brother.
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: Notrem on 11-November-14, 22:40:56
Thank you.

(http://i.imgur.com/2I3j6Rl.jpg)
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: Notrem on 11-November-14, 22:42:48
Well, congratz  :agrees:
1 problem solved :]
now the same for 980 please  :worship:

http://forum-de.msi.com/index.php?page=Thread&postID=837597#post837597
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: Lizard_of_bodom on 11-November-14, 23:11:05
Danke! ;]
Lets flash!  :agrees:
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: CalinTM on 11-November-14, 23:13:21
@flobelix: My S:N for 980 GAMING is:  602 -- V317 -- 03SB1410055823

What should i use ?
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: flobelix on 11-November-14, 23:17:37
@flobelix: My S:N for 980 GAMING is:  602 -- V317 -- 03SB1410055823

What should i use ?

NV317MH.112 -> to download NV317MH_112.rar
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: KillinSpree on 11-November-14, 23:22:24
MSI970 bios 182
Everythings fine!

Many thanks ! ! ! :worship:
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: steve210 on 11-November-14, 23:29:33
i new to this how do i download the this new bois for my card 602-V316-09SB1410040322
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: steve210 on 11-November-14, 23:31:46
so do i pick 182 for my 970
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: Gothmoth on 11-November-14, 23:35:41
will this be available via the MSI update tool?
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: wiesel201 on 11-November-14, 23:37:14
so do i pick 182 for my 970
That´s right: 09S -> 182!
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: Gothmoth on 11-November-14, 23:44:02
ok my friend just asked how do people find the SN when they bought the 970 with a PC system?

why is it not available via the MSI live update tool?

Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: Lizard_of_bodom on 11-November-14, 23:48:16
ok my friend just asked how do people find the SN when they bought the 970 with a PC system?

why is it not available via the MSI live update tool?

Check the sticker on the card (its on the oposite side of the cooler, usually facing up)
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: Lizard_of_bodom on 11-November-14, 23:50:15
Bios fix DID fix the random fan spinout on my 980.
Bios fix also made fan control software NOT working :/

Independent fan control message:
VGA driver is not installed. Please update the newer version.

I re-installed fan control, no luck - same story.
Driver .65

Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: Gothmoth on 11-November-14, 23:53:00
Check the sticker on the card (its on the oposite side of the cooler, usually facing up)

first thanks for the reply... but i know that. it was more a rethoric question. :)
i thought there is maybe a tool like gpu-z for it.

problem is.... people (who have no clue about PC´s) have to disassemble their PC´s?
and there is a sticker on new systems "warranty voided if removed".

i mean why has MSI this live update tool and is not using it?
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: wiesel201 on 11-November-14, 23:53:43
Bios fix DID fix the random fan spinout on my 980.
Bios fix also made fan control software NOT working :/
In this case i think you should report it to support: http://register.msi.com/
Only if MSI knows about this new issue they can solve it.
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: wiesel201 on 11-November-14, 23:57:45
i mean why has MSI this live update tool and is not using it?
Maybe this update will become possible through LiveUpdate, who knows? If you want, you can wait with the VBIOS Update until LiveUpdate makes it possible too. We all, uncluding the team of this forum, are users and not MSI employees. We can´t tell you, what MSI will do. But we can help each other.
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: flobelix on 11-November-14, 23:59:34
first thanks for the reply... but i know that. it was more a rethoric question. :)
i thought there is maybe a tool like gpu-z for it.

problem is.... people (who have no clue about PC´s) have to disassemble their PC´s?
and there is a sticker on new systems "warranty voided if removed".

i mean why has MSI this live update tool and is not using it?


We are not MSI ask MSI: >>How to contact MSI.<< (https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=107326.0)

However files and update method is here. Besides these are retail cards so should be no problem finding the S/N as it is also to be found on the box it comes with. GPU-Z can't readout an S/N but just the currently used vbios.

Bios fix DID fix the random fan spinout on my 980.
Bios fix also made fan control software NOT working :/

Independent fan control message:
VGA driver is not installed. Please update the newer version.

I re-installed fan control, no luck - same story.
Driver .65

Uninstall driver in safemode using >>Driver Fusion<< (http://treexy.com/products/driver-fusion/) and also uninstall fan control. After reboot reinstall driver and current fan control version from product site. If still no go could be a newer version is required to support the new vbios. 
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: CalinTM on 12-November-14, 00:00:40
It works ! Thanks MSI !! :pompom: :pompom:
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: Lizard_of_bodom on 12-November-14, 00:05:56
It works ! Thanks MSI !! :pompom: :pompom:
Can you please check if your Fan Control software is working?

Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: Gothmoth on 12-November-14, 00:06:18
However files and update method is here. Besides these are retail cards so should be no problem finding the S/N as it is also to be found on the box it comes with. GPU-Z can't readout an S/N but just the currently used vbios.

but when you buy a PC system you normaly don´t get the empty boxes.  :)

i don´t know if his MSI 970 is a retail card or OEM but he did not get the empty boxes for all the parts in his PC and the grafic card has the fan issue.

as i wrote his PC system is sealed with a warranty sticker.
so he either has to remove the sticker and void his warranty (maybe) or live with the fan issue.

anyway this is very customer unfriendly way to handle it.... i only hope it will be distributed soon via the live update tool.
so people who don´t frequent forums get the new bios too.

i bet many customers have not even noticed this behavior.... the majority maybe.



Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: CalinTM on 12-November-14, 00:09:17
Can you please check if your Fan Control software is working?

Yes it works mate. First time i installed the fan control software. Afterburner is my thing, from gtx 470 days :) :hat tip:
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: Lizard_of_bodom on 12-November-14, 00:13:37

Uninstall driver in safemode using >>Driver Fusion<< (http://treexy.com/products/driver-fusion/) and also uninstall fan control. After reboot reinstall driver and current fan control version from product site. If still no go could be a newer version is required to support the new vbios.

Sorted. Version 2.0.0.3 works after the vbios update. I must have reinstalled old version from CD before, thats why didnt work  :bonk:
thanks for the tip  :)
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: CalinTM on 12-November-14, 00:15:38
Sorted. Version 2.0.0.3 works after the vbios update. I must have reinstalled old version from CD before, thats why didnt work  :bonk:
thanks for the tip  :)

Lol, u use CD's ? :)) I dont have anymotre an optical drive.
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: Lizard_of_bodom on 12-November-14, 00:15:50
Yes it works mate. First time i installed the fan control software. Afterburner is my thing, from gtx 470 days :) :hat tip:

I use both - afterburner wont let you control nor monitor the black fan on 980, so MSI's app comes handy to keep an eye on it  :yes:
tx for checking. got mine working with updated version aswell.

edit - yep, I OCASIONALLY use CD drive, in that case I happen to have used CD included with 980 before updating all software to newer one but forgot about fan control :P
I dont know, but there is still some nostalgia when buying new hardware and putting DVD in drive to see the all-in-one install menu....  X-((
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: CalinTM on 12-November-14, 00:19:39
Yes the VRM fan, aka. black fan on 980 can be controlled only by that msi tool. Afterburner reads only one fan.
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: KingDazza on 12-November-14, 00:21:39
Thanks to flobelix & wiesel201.  I've learnt far more about vbios, tweaking them, flashing them and checking them than ideally I would have liked.  Such is life, but thanks none the less.   :biggthumbsup:
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: Razoola on 12-November-14, 00:22:29
Looks to be working for me also, I needed the NV316MH_182 version.
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: CalinTM on 12-November-14, 00:32:19
I use both - afterburner wont let you control nor monitor the black fan on 980, so MSI's app comes handy to keep an eye on it  :yes:
tx for checking. got mine working with updated version aswell.

edit - yep, I OCASIONALLY use CD drive, in that case I happen to have used CD included with 980 before updating all software to newer one but forgot about fan control :P
I dont know, but there is still some nostalgia when buying new hardware and putting DVD in drive to see the all-in-one install menu....  X-((

Eh, with my recent cards bought, i dont even touched the CD in the box, like, i dont have any finger prints even, if the police can check :)

Ok lets not keep this off-topic.

Again thanks to MSI and Nvidia !!
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: boogeyman on 12-November-14, 00:38:12
Thanks for posting this my 970 now performs correctly.

I also noticed the fan speed % now says zero instead of 1 as it should. Live Update system info still shows my card bios version NV316MH.126 but the newest drivers work to cure the fan start/stop so I'm happy.
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: taim2dai on 12-November-14, 02:43:03
I have a few questions.

My serial number is 602-V316-092B so I'm assuming i pick NV316MH.182 -> to download NV316MH_182.rar but my vBIOS isn't NV316MH.182 according to live update it is NV316MH.180. Can I still use the one supplied or should I wait?
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: Stanleyc415 on 12-November-14, 03:45:02
Just tried this and unfortunately the idle fan problem still remains. The only difference seems to be that the usage will properly say 0 percent now instead of 1 percent.

Using latest Nvidia Drivers 344.65
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: Xblaze101 on 12-November-14, 05:13:56
How does one flash bios on a sli setup?
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: alas1986 on 12-November-14, 06:29:49
Every time i try to flash the fix on my GTX980 my screen freezes and i have to manually shut off my computer. Wth!
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: Killersjp on 12-November-14, 07:53:52
Hi Guys. How do you actually download the file. I have clicked where it says the rar file and nothing happens, also went to a link on here where the file is shown as a zip file and then it directs me to a login screen in German. I have the gtx980  I know which batch but just cant download it ..  FORGET THIS POST I FOUND THE LINK FURTHER UP THIS THREAD. CAN THE MOD PLEASE DELETE MY POST. THANKS.
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: maidos on 12-November-14, 08:17:33
is it worth updating ur vbios when u have none of those issues?
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: CalinTM on 12-November-14, 09:27:39
I think u have them :) But didnt noticed, look at the fans in idle, with ur eyes from like 10 mins. :pompom:
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: DarkSlim on 12-November-14, 12:07:55
Thanks again! everything seems to work perfect now :)
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: PythonJ on 12-November-14, 14:05:47
Hi Guys. How do you actually download the file. I have clicked where it says the rar file and nothing happens, also went to a link on here where the file is shown as a zip file and then it directs me to a login screen in German. I have the gtx980  I know which batch but just cant download it ..  FORGET THIS POST I FOUND THE LINK FURTHER UP THIS THREAD. CAN THE MOD PLEASE DELETE MY POST. THANKS.

Just for anyone reading this thread and wondering where the links are, you need to log into the forum to see them. I thought I was going blind this morning as I couldn't see a download link. :bonk:
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: edkiefer on 12-November-14, 14:29:27
Every time i try to flash the fix on my GTX980 my screen freezes and i have to manually shut off my computer. Wth!
That sounds like you didn't uninstall or disable the card in device manager before trying to flash it .

You can't flash 9xx cards with drivers loaded , same with extracting bios with GPU-Z but the latest version disables driver auto before extracting it .
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: Zorder on 12-November-14, 14:30:25
Hi!

I've been keeping an eye on this forum for a while since I've been experience some issues with my 970 but only now I registered so I could ask about a few things.

According to MSI Live Update 6 my current VGA BIOS is called MH-V316 version NV316MH.126 and my S/N is 03S so, should I download NV316MH.182 eitherways, despite Live Update showing my current version as .126?

Just one more question... when you mention to unninstall Nvidia drivers, should I just go to Control Panel and delete everything that is related to Nvidia or should I just unninstall Nvidia Experience or what?

Thank you in advance and accept my apologies for having to deal with folk like me who understand nothing about what they're doing :)
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: boogeyman on 12-November-14, 14:43:00
Hi!

I've been keeping an eye on this forum for a while since I've been experience some issues with my 970 but only now I registered so I could ask about a few things.

According to MSI Live Update 6 my current VGA BIOS is called MH-V316 version NV316MH.126 and my S/N is 03S so, should I download NV316MH.182 eitherways, despite Live Update showing my current version as .126?

Just one more question... when you mention to unninstall Nvidia drivers, should I just go to Control Panel and delete everything that is related to Nvidia or should I just unninstall Nvidia Experience or what?

Thank you in advance and accept my apologies for having to deal with folk like me who understand nothing about what they're doing :)

I had the same Card designator as you and same bios. I downloaded NV316MH.182 and extracted to a new folder on my desktop. I went into Programs and features in the control panel and uninstalled the Nvidia driver only. Did not reboot when prompted. I ran the 182.bat from the extracted folder (right click on 182.bat and run as admin). pressed Y when asked. When it's finished the cmd box will close.

Rebooted PC and installed 344.48 drivers only, rebooted. Even though Liveupdate still shows bios version 126, the fan start/stop at idle is fixed.

Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: Synner on 12-November-14, 14:44:40

Just one more question... when you mention to unninstall Nvidia drivers, should I just go to Control Panel and delete everything that is related to Nvidia or should I just unninstall Nvidia Experience or what?

Thank you in advance and accept my apologies for having to deal with folk like me who understand nothing about what they're doing :)

You only need to remove the display driver itself, you can leave everything else.

Alternatively you can go to Device Manager and temporarily disable the device (your video board).  If you aren't comfortable with that sort of thing then just uninstall/flash/reinstall.
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: NiHaLus on 12-November-14, 15:02:22
Greetings. In my case i have two gtx 970 gaming in SLI. Is the procedure for flashing the cards the same? Can i Select witch card to flash then?
Or do i have to remove one card and update one at a time? (god nooooo.... ;-(()
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: CalinTM on 12-November-14, 15:03:10
U did wrong uninstalling the driver.

Use DDU in safe mode to uninstall the nvidia drivers.

http://www.wagnardmobile.com/DDU/
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: Zorder on 12-November-14, 15:05:21
You only need to remove the display driver itself, you can leave everything else.

Alternatively you can go to Device Manager and temporarily disable the device (your video board).  If you aren't comfortable with that sort of thing then just uninstall/flash/reinstall.
Thanks for the replies both of you. I've done as you said and disabled the GPU via the Device Manager but when I choose to run the bat file as admin the cmd box opens and closes in a second. I assume something is not right since it didn't even asked me to press the "Y" key. Any ideas on what could be causing this?
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: Boogie37 on 12-November-14, 15:07:50
mine starts with 03sb to so i assume 182 its the one i should use right?
Other thing is as i use ddu from nvidias forum, is it still ok to use it to remove drivers before flashing the bios?
I was about to download the new drivers as i saw .65 came out and i usually remove all with ddu before installing new version, so its a good time to flash the card at the same time.
While looking for s/n i opened the case and the fans indeed stop and start every few seconds as people mention both here and on nv forums.
Otherwise couldnt see it as i didnt watched the fan monitor in afterburner for a longer time so  :shocked_anim:
Btw as i write about AB i would need to disable/uninstall the afterburner too before flashing i guess? usually close it when installing drivers.
Sorry for the questions, never before was i forced to flash gpu bios so little scared aboout it  :shocked:
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: CalinTM on 12-November-14, 15:13:00
mine starts with 03sb to so i assume 182 its the one i should use right?
Other thing is as i use ddu from nvidias forum, is it still ok to use it to remove drivers before flashing the bios?
I was about to download the new drivers as i saw .65 came out and i usually remove all with ddu before installing new version, so its a good time to flash the card at the same time.
While looking for s/n i opened the case and the fans indeed stop and start every few seconds as people mention both here and on nv forums.
Otherwise couldnt see it as i didnt watched the fan monitor in afterburner for a longer time so  :shocked_anim:
Btw as i write about AB i would need to disable/uninstall the afterburner too before flashing i guess? usually close it when installing drivers.
Sorry for the questions, never before was i forced to flash gpu bios so little scared aboout it  :shocked:

I uninstalled the driver in safe mode using DDU. Then booted normally, then disabled all software, including AB. Leaved all vanilla. Then clicked on the .bat file. With admin rights at firsrt. But doesnt work to right click and select "run as administrator", u need to just double click on it, and it will show a message and click ok.

Then the flashing procedure begins. Will prompt u to press y several times. Then the CMD window will close automatically. And u reboot the PC, then u install the drivers.

And ur good 2 go ! :hat tip:
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: boogeyman on 12-November-14, 15:21:34
Thanks for the replies both of you. I've done as you said and disabled the GPU via the Device Manager but when I choose to run the bat file as admin the cmd box opens and closes in a second. I assume something is not right since it didn't even asked me to press the "Y" key. Any ideas on what could be causing this?

No need to disable device, I didn't. No need to uninstall drivers in safe mode, I didn't. The instructions in the first post don't mention doing either of those. Follow the instruction in my post above if you want because it worked for me.
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: Zorder on 12-November-14, 15:34:55
No need to disable device, I didn't. No need to uninstall drivers in safe mode, I didn't. The instructions in the first post don't mention doing either of those. Follow the instruction in my post above if you want because it worked for me.
Alright I'll give it a try. Also, why did you installed the 344.48 instead of the recent 344.65 drivers? Does the old driver have better performance for you?
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: boogeyman on 12-November-14, 15:37:42
Alright I'll give it a try. Also, why did you installed the 344.48 instead of the recent 344.65 drivers? Does the old driver have better performance for you?

I didn't have .65 downloaded at the time plus it's a game ready driver for the new games out which I don't own.
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: Zorder on 12-November-14, 16:04:19
I didn't have .65 downloaded at the time plus it's a game ready driver for the new games out which I don't own.
Got it, worked as it was supposed to and Live Update is showing version 182. Thank you for your help!
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: boogeyman on 12-November-14, 17:29:19
Got it, worked as it was supposed to and Live Update is showing version 182. Thank you for your help!

Glad you got it. After scanning in the system info tab mine also shows 182 now.
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: KingDazza on 12-November-14, 17:43:42
For those flashing sli, its very straight forward.  NVflash will simply flash one card, then tell you it has found another and just repeat without exiting NVflash.  Once it has no further cards to flash it will tell you.  There is no need to be uninstalling cards etc.

Hope that helps.
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: NiHaLus on 12-November-14, 20:07:13
For those flashing sli, its very straight forward.  NVflash will simply flash one card, then tell you it has found another and just repeat without exiting NVflash.  Once it has no further cards to flash it will tell you.  There is no need to be uninstalling cards etc.

Hope that helps.

Thank's KingDazza, and here i was thinking i had to flash the cards one at a time.  :lol_anim:
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: matt3o on 12-November-14, 20:22:23
what worked for me

- uninstall drivers from control panel
- do not reboot when prompted
- double click on .bat file
- confirm flash
- reboot
- reinstall nvidia drivers (version .65)

mine was the 182 firmware for S/N 03SB

GPU-Z shows fan speed 0% and so far I haven't experienced any random fan spin
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: Boogie37 on 13-November-14, 03:32:59
i flash the bios and all but i see its still doing it on mine down to 0 every few sec  :undecided:
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: pjuppi on 13-November-14, 12:28:47
hello.

i have a quick question...
i have the "03S" S/N according to my box... but in my live update 6, it says i have vbios NV316MH.125? or is your "NV316MH.182" just the new vbios code? :P
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: Boogie37 on 13-November-14, 13:32:43
hello.

i have a quick question...
i have the "03S" S/N according to my box... but in my live update 6, it says i have vbios NV316MH.125? or is your "NV316MH.182" just the new vbios code? :P

Mine was the same as you before flashing. The nv316mh.182 is the new version of bios for the card that should fix the spinning down of fans every few sec.
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: boogeyman on 13-November-14, 14:11:59
hello.

i have a quick question...
i have the "03S" S/N according to my box... but in my live update 6, it says i have vbios NV316MH.125? or is your "NV316MH.182" just the new vbios code? :P

Go to System info tab in Liveupdate and click scan so it refreshes. What Vbios version does it say then?
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: Sinthuras on 13-November-14, 15:00:43
Hi all!

I followed the comments here for the last few days, because i have the same problems with the fans. I hoped, that i can get the VBIOS Update without to register and download it. I want it more comfortable by using Live Update 6 (click and go!). Therefore i started Live Update 6 and i saw the new VBIOS version there (NV316MH.182 for S/N:09S). So i deinstalled the driver, downloaded and installed the new VBIOS version (using Live Update), reboot, reinstalled the actual driver 344.65 and THE FANS DONT SPIN IN IDLE NOW!!! It worked with Live Update 6!

So the problem with spinning fans is solved. But there is another problem, that i have. When i play a game, after a while the fans are spinning and stopping the whole time! Spin,stop,spin,stop...every 2 secs. Does anybody have the same problem?

Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: Boogie37 on 13-November-14, 16:11:39

So the problem with spinning fans is solved. But there is another problem, that i have. When i play a game, after a while the fans are spinning and stopping the whole time! Spin,stop,spin,stop...every 2 secs. Does anybody have the same problem?

Mine stays on 0 while under 50C..but when its over 50C it spin up and down like you say even idle in windows.
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: delfinus on 13-November-14, 16:41:39
So new bios is causing a new issue?  :confused2: If so I'm staying on my personal modified bios that works without any sporadic spin ups and downs. Bios version is a child of a bios that officially came with a card and that is until they clear out the thing.

EDIT: or maybe that spin up and down while gaming is happening natural as it is targeted by the lower margin of temperature and then it stops. When it hits 60C it spins again? Or? What is the correlation with the temperature when it does that? Please check in afterburner.
I'm not so enthusiastic to try half working bios :).
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: Sinthuras on 13-November-14, 17:25:37
So new bios is causing a new issue?

EDIT: or maybe that spin up and down while gaming is happening natural as it is targeted by the lower margin of temperature and then it stops. When it hits 60C it spins again? Or? What is the correlation with the temperature when it does that? Please check in afterburner.
I'm not so enthusiastic to try half working bios :).

It has nothing to do with the new BIOS Update. Because of the new version, i have no spinning fans in idle anymore. :biggthumbsup: 

I checked Afterburner and youre right. It has to do with the 60°C temperature. The fans go on and off, because the temperature pass and then directly fall below the 60°C. It holds on the whole time, like i said, every 2 seconds (what makes sense).

I dont want to complain about MSI, but my opinion is, that the fans should only stop, when you are in idle mode (its a very nice feature. I dont want to miss it).But while gaming, they should work. Otherwise its a high level of stress for the fans.
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: pjuppi on 13-November-14, 17:39:57
Mine was the same as you before flashing. The nv316mh.182 is the new version of bios for the card that should fix the spinning down of fans every few sec.

oh well okey, i just dont wanna mess things up, but thx for answering :)

Go to System info tab in Liveupdate and click scan so it refreshes. What Vbios version does it say then?

doesn't matter, still .125. that's why i asked here :)



Hi all!

I followed the comments here for the last few days, because i have the same problems with the fans. I hoped, that i can get the VBIOS Update without to register and download it. I want it more comfortable by using Live Update 6 (click and go!). Therefore i started Live Update 6 and i saw the new VBIOS version there (NV316MH.182 for S/N:09S). So i deinstalled the driver, downloaded and installed the new VBIOS version (using Live Update), reboot, reinstalled the actual driver 344.65 and THE FANS DONT SPIN IN IDLE NOW!!! It worked with Live Update 6!

So the problem with spinning fans is solved. But there is another problem, that i have. When i play a game, after a while the fans are spinning and stopping the whole time! Spin,stop,spin,stop...every 2 secs. Does anybody have the same problem?

whaaaat, my live update doesn't show any new vbios update! :(

and also, with the "new fan problem", it read my answer below ^^

...EDIT: or maybe that spin up and down while gaming is happening natural as it is targeted by the lower margin of temperature and then it stops. When it hits 60C it spins again? Or? What is the correlation with the temperature when it does that? Please check in afterburner.
I'm not so enthusiastic to try half working bios :).

yea that should be right, it happens for me too when i play a game that doesn't stress the gpu very much. for example in guild wars 2, my gpu can't show its muscle because my cpu (i5 2500k) is too weak. that means my gpu stays at around 58-60c and keeps juggling between the temps. :P i just have msi afterburner on autostart, and whenever i start a game, i start the custom fan profile^^
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: delfinus on 13-November-14, 18:27:36
Thanks for confirming that Sinthuras and pjuppi! I think that rwcordell's optimized recommendation is better for my taste so I will stay with my custom bios as it keeps MSI card cooler and also fans kick in at 50C. So it will be less probability to flow between the limits. Games usually are just there in high 50 and low 60C while gaming.

(http://s21.postimg.org/gvwka37d3/modded.jpg)

his post here is #28: click (https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=184333.0)

best, d.
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: Sinthuras on 13-November-14, 18:53:14
yea that should be right, it happens for me too when i play a game that doesn't stress the gpu very much. for example in guild wars 2, my gpu can't show its muscle because my cpu (i5 2500k) is too weak. that means my gpu stays at around 58-60c and keeps juggling between the temps. :P i just have msi afterburner on autostart, and whenever i start a game, i start the custom fan profile^^

Ah, i understand. Its a good idea to use the custom fan profile then, until MSI creates a better temperature profile for these cases (i hope so).

Thanks for confirming that Sinthuras and pjuppi! I think that rwcordell's optimized recommendation is better for my taste so I will stay with my custom bios as it keeps MSI card cooler and also fans kick in at 50C. So it will be less probability to flow between the limits. Games usually are just there in high 50 and low 60C while gaming.

(http://s21.postimg.org/gvwka37d3/modded.jpg)

his post here is #28: click (https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=184333.0)

best, d.

Thanks for the Fan Control Options. Because i have no idea how to create a temperature-profile, this is very helpful for me.
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: CalinTM on 13-November-14, 22:02:16
Lol i dont have any of these problems. My GPU fan starts to spin on 60+ degrees, and stops while below 60 degrees. the VRM fan spins a little longer after exiting a game.
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: Zorder on 13-November-14, 22:09:53
(http://i.imgur.com/rUIy2NY.jpg)
Is this normal? I just noticed the fans have been acting like this, I assume it's because they only start when the temp reaches 60C so when it is at 59C it keeps turning the fans on and off. Should I be worried or is this how it is supposed to work?

Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: CalinTM on 13-November-14, 23:40:19
No its not normal, flash ur bios.
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: Zorder on 13-November-14, 23:54:36
No its not normal, flash ur bios.
What do you mean by that? I only flashed my VGA Bios once, and it was with the new fix from MSI related to the idle fan problem, you're telling me to do it again?
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: pjuppi on 14-November-14, 00:02:09
What do you mean by that? I only flashed my VGA Bios once, and it was with the new fix from MSI related to the idle fan problem, you're telling me to do it again?

dunno what he meant by that, but you're good unless your fan is like that when your graphic card is IDLE :). you are on the edge @ 60c temp on the card, the fan kicks in when it hit 60, and shuts off @ 59. but yea, if you're worried about the fans lifespan when it does like that, just use msi afterburner and use a userconfigured fanspeed when you game, i do it as i said a few posts above and i think it works ok.


also, my card is fine now! i got the vbios from live update and flashed it without any problem, kicking with nv driver 344.65 and no random fan spin-up when idle :)

edit: oh, also. i wanted to try adaptive vsync, but with .16 the settings didn't saved, but with .65 the setting saves nicely!
but dunno if it works, i cant tell if i get tearing in gw2 at all xD
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: Zorder on 14-November-14, 00:11:34
dunno what he meant by that, but you're good unless your fan is like that when your graphic card is IDLE :). you are on the edge @ 60c temp on the card, the fan kicks in when it hit 60, and shuts off @ 59. but yea, if you're worried about the fans lifespan when it does like that, just use msi afterburner and use a userconfigured fanspeed when you game, i do it as i said a few posts above and i think it works ok.


also, my card is fine now! i got the vbios from live update and flashed it without any problem, kicking with nv driver 344.65 and no random fan spin-up when idle :)
Actually the fan was like that while I was browsing but I figured somethings was wrong because on MSI Gaming App and Afterburner the Core Clock and Memory Clock were "stuck" as you can see on the screenshot I posted above. I then used the Cool Down function from the MSI Gaming App and after the temperature dropped to around 50-55 the fans stopped.

The thing I'm worried about is that I'm getting these spikes on the Core Clock and Memory Clock on Afterburner and they go up to 1114Mhz according to MSI Gaming App. (check pic below)

(http://i.imgur.com/Laiwph0.jpg)
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: CalinTM on 14-November-14, 00:14:55
What do you mean by that? I only flashed my VGA Bios once, and it was with the new fix from MSI related to the idle fan problem, you're telling me to do it again?

If u flashed already the new bios and still have the problem, hmmmm
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: Zorder on 14-November-14, 00:20:55
If u flashed already the new bios and still have the problem, hmmmm
Like I mentioned on the post above the fans no longer do this, I imagine they were like that because it was on the 59C-60C mark.

My concern now is those Core clock and memory clock spikes.
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: pjuppi on 14-November-14, 00:28:39
Actually the fan was like that while I was browsing but I figured somethings was wrong because on MSI Gaming App and Afterburner the Core Clock and Memory Clock were "stuck" as you can see on the screenshot I posted above. I then used the Cool Down function from the MSI Gaming App and after the temperature dropped to around 50-55 the fans stopped.

The thing I'm worried about is that I'm getting these spikes on the Core Clock and Memory Clock on Afterburner and they go up to 1114Mhz according to MSI Gaming App. (check pic below)

(http://i.imgur.com/Laiwph0.jpg)

oooh i see. the gpu/memory clock goes up and down depending on what you're doing and if the card needs the extra clock for doing stuff. if this is when you're doing absolutely nothing, not even have a web browser up, then i suppose we have a problem. but for example, when you surf the web, many stuff can get the clock to go higher (flash player, advertisement that use flash and such).
just as i was writing this, my gpu clock went up to 1100Mhz and memory clock to 1500 Mhz a few times :P

so yea, try closing everything except msi afterburner, and see?
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: Zorder on 14-November-14, 00:42:17
oooh i see. the gpu/memory clock goes up and down depending on what you're doing and if the card needs the extra clock for doing stuff. if this is when you're doing absolutely nothing, not even have a web browser up, then i suppose we have a problem. but for example, when you surf the web, many stuff can get the clock to go higher (flash player, advertisement that use flash and such).
just as i was writing this, my gpu clock went up to 1100Mhz and memory clock to 1500 Mhz a few times :P

so yea, try closing everything except msi afterburner, and see?
Oh! In that case I'm more relieved. If I just sit and stare at the monitor those values go way down. I just didn't knew they were supposed to do that. This is my first custom built PC so I'm just kind of worried that something will break because I did something wrong lol.

I'm kind of desapointed with the performance I'm getting with the card though. The framerate drops below 60 alot of times on Shadow Warrior and in Battlefield 4 the game runs from 60-80 on average with everything maxed out but I ocasionally get drops until 40 fps. My hopes are that this is due to early drivers from Nvidia and that performance will eventually be increased. Thanks for the help pjuppi! ;)
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: pjuppi on 14-November-14, 00:58:50
Oh! In that case I'm more relieved. If I just sit and stare at the monitor those values go way down. I just didn't knew they were supposed to do that. This is my first custom built PC so I'm just kind of worried that something will break because I did something wrong lol.

I'm kind of desapointed with the performance I'm getting with the card though. The framerate drops below 60 alot of times on Shadow Warrior and in Battlefield 4 the game runs from 60-80 on average with everything maxed out but I ocasionally get drops until 40 fps. My hopes are that this is due to early drivers from Nvidia and that performance will eventually be increased. Thanks for the help pjuppi! ;)

hehe, glad to help ^^ i dunno about the shadow warrior, but seems good at what you get in bf4? bf4 is a rather demanding game :P
and your drops to 40 fps could in some cases be due to your cpu too, if very much is happening at the same time etc :P

but i'm curious, if you let the card idle for a while, what temp do you get then?


(test from sweclockers: http://www.sweclockers.com/image/diagram/8461?k=d6d8685e3c0c699b19e2fe0a3a02ebf3 )
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: Zorder on 14-November-14, 01:10:25
hehe, glad to help ^^ i dunno about the shadow warrior, but seems good at what you get in bf4? bf4 is a rather demanding game :P
and your drops to 40 fps could in some cases be due to your cpu too, if very much is happening at the same time etc :P

but i'm curious, if you let the card idle for a while, what temp do you get then?


(test from sweclockers: http://www.sweclockers.com/image/diagram/8461?k=d6d8685e3c0c699b19e2fe0a3a02ebf3 )
Well, if I had a 1080 monitor I'd actually say they were good but since I have a 720p monitor (1366x768), shouldn't I get a few extra frames? But then again, you're probably right, it might be my cpu struggling in intense particle effects situations.

As for the temps of idle I usually get from 30ish to 40ish degrees Celsius. By idle I assume you're talking when I'm away from the computer and then come back... if not, when I'm doing other stuff other than playing games it varies alot, I've had it at 30ish, 40ish and 50ish. Usually it stays above 50C after playing games and if I check it before playing any games after booting the computer it overs around 40C. The longer it has been since I've played a game the more the temperature decreases.
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: pjuppi on 14-November-14, 01:16:07
Well, if I had a 1080 monitor I'd actually say they were good but since I have a 720p monitor (1366x768), shouldn't I get a few extra frames? But then again, you're probably right, it might be my cpu struggling in intense particle effects situations.

As for the temps of idle I usually get from 30ish to 40ish degrees Celsius. By idle I assume you're talking when I'm away from the computer and then come back... if not, when I'm doing other stuff other than playing games it varies alot, I've had it at 30ish, 40ish and 50ish. Usually it stays above 50C after playing games and if I check it before playing any games after booting the computer it overs around 40C. The longer it has been since I've played a game the more the temperature decreases.

ah yea, then all is good, i have pretty much the same temps. :)
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: CalinTM on 14-November-14, 01:55:54
Like I mentioned on the post above the fans no longer do this, I imagine they were like that because it was on the 59C-60C mark.

My concern now is those Core clock and memory clock spikes.

The drivers are too young. Wait a couple of months until the drivers get mature.
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: Lizard_of_bodom on 14-November-14, 11:17:47
Well, if I had a 1080 monitor I'd actually say they were good but since I have a 720p monitor (1366x768), shouldn't I get a few extra frames? But then again, you're probably right, it might be my cpu struggling in intense particle effects situations.

For 720P your fps in BF4 is indeed pretty low... Did you try to OC your CPU? You have huge reserve of power on it and you can easily go over 4Ghz efrfortlessly, maybe its bottlenecking your GPU at the moment?
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: kosmasgr on 14-November-14, 12:46:30
Hello. I have just received on live update the new VBIOS and succesfully installed it. :) Fan issue completely fixed on idle and load mode
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: Zorder on 14-November-14, 15:41:17
For 720P your fps in BF4 is indeed pretty low... Did you try to OC your CPU? You have huge reserve of power on it and you can easily go over 4Ghz efrfortlessly, maybe its bottlenecking your GPU at the moment?
I've never considered doing that mainly because I have no idea how to do it without breaking things. Also, how can one know if the CPU is bottlenecking the GPU? I'm not sure but, I believe that my CPU usage doesn't get near 100% usage while I'm playing games.
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: pjuppi on 14-November-14, 16:34:48
For 720P your fps in BF4 is indeed pretty low... Did you try to OC your CPU? You have huge reserve of power on it and you can easily go over 4Ghz efrfortlessly, maybe its bottlenecking your GPU at the moment?

I've never considered doing that mainly because I have no idea how to do it without breaking things. Also, how can one know if the CPU is bottlenecking the GPU? I'm not sure but, I believe that my CPU usage doesn't get near 100% usage while I'm playing games.

can't OC i5-4460 :) the multiplier is locked on that cpu.
Intel nowadays specifies their cpu with unlocked multiplier with adding a "k" at the end of the name (i5-2500k, i5-3570k, i7-4790k to mention a few)

edit: you can look at your cpu/gpu usage, if your cpu is 100% load and your gpu is say 50% load, then it is possible the cpu bottlenecks, or as in my example in gw2, the cpu is constant at 80-90% cpu, but when i get lower fps (lots of enemies/players) i see that my gpu load goes down, mainly because the cpu can't handle everything :P.
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: Zorder on 14-November-14, 18:07:44
you can look at your cpu/gpu usage, if your cpu is 100% load and your gpu is say 50% load, then it is possible the cpu bottlenecks, or as in my example in gw2, the cpu is constant at 80-90% cpu, but when i get lower fps (lots of enemies/players) i see that my gpu load goes down, mainly because the cpu can't handle everything :P.
In that case I believe that my CPU is not bottlenecking the GPU. I just tested on Far Cry 3 with everything maxed out and the GPU usage stayed at 99% most of the time and the CPU usage average was between 50% and 60%, ocasionally it went up to 80% for a few seconds and go back down.
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: Ceremony on 16-November-14, 23:52:41
I cant flash my card. nvflash crashes for me. --list --check or --save also crashes. running nvflash without any lag or file doesnt crash
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: johnnyw on 23-November-14, 08:23:08
Seems like the vbios update has been pulled off from liveupdate, what is the reason for it? I have the fan spin/stop issues with my MSI 980 Gaming & would like to get it sorted, but then again im not too happy about bios updates because of some bricked devices at past because of those. Want to make sure the current "fix bios" is working correctly before going for it, definately dont want to do it again after while if there is some issue.
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: flobelix on 23-November-14, 17:37:14
The vbios versions above are working fine like it has been verified by users in this thread too. Note that you MUST uninstall the nvidia driver in order to use nvwinflash to flash the card else it won't work. Also .bat must be run in administrator mode.
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: johnnyw on 23-November-14, 20:39:01
The vbios versions above are working fine like it has been verified by users in this thread too. Note that you MUST uninstall the nvidia driver in order to use nvwinflash to flash the card else it won't work. Also .bat must be run in administrator mode.
Ok.

So do i actually need to run the bat as administrator by right click -> run as administrator, or just double click it & then press ok to that windows popup that always appears when launching programs?

Also as my card S/N is 602 - V317 - 03SB14090xxxxx can you verify that the prober file to download is NV317MH_112.rar?
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: Nichrome on 23-November-14, 23:25:07
Ok.

So do i actually need to run the bat as administrator by right click -> run as administrator, or just double click it & then press ok to that windows popup that always appears when launching programs?

Better to do right click->Run as admin. 100% sure it will do it properly.

Also as my card S/N is 602 - V317 - 03SB14090xxxxx can you verify that the prober file to download is NV317MH_112.rar?

Quote from: flobelix
09S / 03S / 010   NV316MH.182 -> to download NV316MH_182.rar
See RED font.
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: johnnyw on 24-November-14, 06:04:46
Better to do right click->Run as admin. 100% sure it will do it properly.
See RED font.

Well i have 980,not 970. So i assume the NV317MH_112 is the correct one if the opening post is not wrong.
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: Nichrome on 24-November-14, 08:45:19
Sorry misread it completely. Yes you are right
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: batangel1986 on 24-November-14, 12:10:15
Hi i have 2 MSI gtx 980 gaming and i have the same problem with second fan randomly spining , after bios update  the second card is fine but the 1st one have the problem and the black fan spins randomy and its on 53% ( and more the sound is realy loud)+ when the temp is under 50c , i tryed swaping the cards but again the card that is in the 1st slot have the problem.... i was with bios 111 and acording to id i swiched to 112  , i used the 112 file for update , the NVFlash file was doing nothing like on the picture....
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: Nichrome on 24-November-14, 12:13:01
Hi i have 2 MSI gtx 980 gaming and i have the same problem with second fan randomly spining , after bios update  the second card is fine but the 1st one have the problem and the black fan spins randomy and its on 53% ( and more the sound is realy loud)+ when the temp is under 50c , i tryed swaping the cards but again the card that is in the 1st slot have the problem.... i was with bios 111 and acording to id i swiched to 112  , i used the 112 file for update , the NVFlash file was doing nothing like on the picture....
Are you running latest BIOS for your motherboard?
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: johnnyw on 24-November-14, 15:57:31
Thx guys. Got the bios updated & everything seems to be fine now. Only thing need to mention that running the batch file as administrator didnt work, you need to double click it and go through those windows popups, otherwise it wont start.
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: Nichrome on 24-November-14, 17:24:43
Glad to hear. Enjoy the power  :biggthumbsup:
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: batangel1986 on 26-November-14, 16:37:52
today i swaped again my 2 gtx 980 and again the card in the first slot have the  black fan problem... at the second  i start a game or unigen it rams up , msi fan utility shows 53+% but its more becouse when it shows 30% on auto mode i can hear it , i swich to 30% manual and then it realy works at 30% with no noise... and all of this happens under 56C ??? I have all the lates drivers for all my parts my Mobo is Asus Hero VII , i tryed so many thing byt nothing its gething evan worst now befor the fan was spining from time to time now its all the time i have a game open and  again  temps dont go over 56c i play with vsync at 60fps
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: batangel1986 on 26-November-14, 16:50:03
iv tryed all posible thing isateld bios update  withaut deleting nv drivers ,  deleting all drivers , deletein in safe mod , all atleast 3 times , afer that i swiched to my bild in intel gpu and again istaled  the bios update  with drivers , without drivers  in safe mode ... i use the 112 file and pres '' y '' the nvflash file dont do nothing just give me  6-7 options and thats it or freezes my screen . msi live updateit shows im running 112 but same thing with the black fann
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: ford127721 on 30-November-14, 14:58:45
Thanks alot!! It really worked, looks like! 1. temperatures are lower, or thats me 2. computer isn't that loud anymore, don't know, thats me again maybe  8-))
The problems are fixed, as I see!  :cheesy:
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: lucajazz84 on 05-December-14, 23:53:40
Hi to everyone

i'm new owner of GTX GAMING 4G 980 GTX and i've te same isuue with the last nvidia's driver 344.75

my Serial Number is

SN

602 - V317 - 03SB1410048867

which one the correct bios...?

Thanks so much ;-)
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: flobelix on 05-December-14, 23:57:38
602 - V317 - 03SB1410048867

which one the correct bios...?

Thanks so much ;-)


It's NV317MH.112 -> to download NV317MH_112.rar
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: lucajazz84 on 06-December-14, 11:49:29
Thanks so much for quickly answer!!

another question...

could I do rthe same process of flashing from DOS with a USB pen?


Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: flobelix on 06-December-14, 16:18:08
No, that is currently not possible. You need to use the way listed in the initial post.
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: adrian-1984 on 07-December-14, 03:07:50
hello,

As much as I try nvflash always gives APPCRASH error. I formatted the PC. No drivers are installed. I disabled the graphics from the device manager. Mode and neither system administrator. Always the same error.

I have an SLI GTX 970. One with version 03SB and the other with 09SB version. This is the bios I should use NV316MH.182 but I always get the message windows Appcrash unexpected shutdown.

I tried it on Windows 7 64 bit sp1 and also in windows 8.1 update January 64 bits

Greetings.
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: flobelix on 07-December-14, 14:25:02
What you mean by when you try nvflash? How are trying to flash exactly?
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: adrian-1984 on 07-December-14, 16:13:50
When I try to flash with nvflash always get the Appcrash. Follow the procedure mentioned in the beginning of the post. No matter the Instruction running with nvflash:
- Copy of the bios = Appcrash.
- List adapters = Appcrash

Any instruction the result is Appcrash.

On the laptop I can execute instructions. For example I execute the instruction of adapters list, but since I have intel graphics nvflash says not find nvidia adapters.

It's something my PC that creates the Appcrash but not it can be.

Thank you.
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: flobelix on 08-December-14, 18:59:29
You should follow the instructions using the exact archive to be downloaded with executing the batch file in administrator mode after uninstalling the nvdia driver without rebooting.
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: adrian-1984 on 08-December-14, 21:55:44
this is what happens.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-10Ax-wrJKg&feature=youtu.be

the same happens if I try directly with nvflash
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: flobelix on 09-December-14, 17:49:48
Don't uninstall it via the uninstaller but try uninstalling it via device manager.
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: adrian-1984 on 12-December-14, 09:45:09
Nothing. This still does not work. :-(
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: flobelix on 12-December-14, 15:33:10
List system specs: >>Posting Guide<< (https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=38822.0)
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: ford127721 on 16-December-14, 09:32:23
Okay, so I'm back here, because fan issue started again.
I tried to install again vbios update, but wasn't helping. If anyone can help, surely respond please. :)
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: flobelix on 16-December-14, 18:48:52
And you have what card? Also you said vbios update helped. What is the current issue exactly when did it start?
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: ford127721 on 16-December-14, 18:55:37
Yes, I said it worked. But only for sometime. The problem happened while playing. I have MSI GTX 970 Gaming 4G, yes, I installed the correct vBios and MSI Live update shows also updated vBios number. Here is the picture: http://gyazo.com/6d185a9ac3992f53863ed09bd74da7ae
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: flobelix on 16-December-14, 18:59:26
Try updated vbios version NV316MH.184 -> https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=251510.msg1445813#msg1445813
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: ford127721 on 16-December-14, 19:04:04
Thanks alot, I'm trying to . :)
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: flobelix on 16-December-14, 19:05:04
 :hat tip:
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: ford127721 on 16-December-14, 19:19:30
Won't work. If I uninstalled this driver over here http://gyazo.com/f40c0e4b7cc5e250b4d64fa2b2a7f17e then the fan was ok. And if I installed it back, then it was stuck again.Second fan at 100%
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: flobelix on 16-December-14, 19:27:37
Does it work with an older driver?
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: ford127721 on 16-December-14, 19:52:00
Downloading 344.16 driver right now.
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: ford127721 on 16-December-14, 20:17:36
So, I'm back, installing the older driver didn't work. So I helped this 1st fan a bit and to be sure, it worked. How long will it work, I don't know :P
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: flobelix on 16-December-14, 20:30:41
So, I'm back, installing the older driver didn't work. So I helped this 1st fan a bit and to be sure, it worked. How long will it work, I don't know :P

Don't understand that. Did it work or not? If not contact MSI about it or rma the card. >>How to contact MSI.<< (https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=107326.0)
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: ford127721 on 16-December-14, 22:42:43
Yes, it worked, only for sometimes I think, but it worked yeah .
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: CSIG1001 on 17-December-14, 01:39:17
Glad to hear. Enjoy the power  :biggthumbsup:

I have an issue

GTX 980 MSI Gamming in SLI

Updated via live update to the new 113 bios which fixes window 8.1 hybrid

Mobo Asus maximus VII

So i verified through GPUZ my video cards have the latest update

Primary video card the red fan does not spin at at all until i hit around 60c "dont know exact temp"

The black VRM fan is constantly spinning and when i use MSI fan control it defaults to my second video card which always reads 0% on red and black fans.  Now i check my case and my black vrm fan is always running even though i am sitting at 42 c idle. Is it because i have two monitors plugged in and set to SLI?
I am on the latest drivers for nvidia and my motherboard asus

what gives?  I do not get it
please help

MSI support on the phone is useless
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: CSIG1001 on 17-December-14, 01:42:23
iv tryed all posible thing isateld bios update  withaut deleting nv drivers ,  deleting all drivers , deletein in safe mod , all atleast 3 times , afer that i swiched to my bild in intel gpu and again istaled  the bios update  with drivers , without drivers  in safe mode ... i use the 112 file and pres '' y '' the nvflash file dont do nothing just give me  6-7 options and thats it or freezes my screen . msi live updateit shows im running 112 but same thing with the black fann


Hey i have the same issues as you do

I am on SLI GTX 980

cant read MSI fan control because it always defaults to my secondary video card "NICE PROGRAMING MSI" any read above and you will see my post.

Let me know what is going on with your setup please
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: johnclosedd on 17-December-14, 05:40:14
Don't understand that. Did it work or not? If not contact MSI about it or rma the card. >>How to contact MSI.<< (https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=107326.0)
That means the 09S / 03S / 010  are the first versions of the msi gtx 970? so for the logic the 11S / 05S / 030 version are the last graphics made?

Cheers,
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: flobelix on 17-December-14, 21:37:28
Quote from: CSIG1001
I have an issue

GTX 980 MSI Gamming in SLI

Updated via live update to the new 113 bios which fixes window 8.1 hybrid

Mobo Asus maximus VII

So i verified through GPUZ my video cards have the latest update

Primary video card the red fan does not spin at at all until i hit around 60c "dont know exact temp"

The black VRM fan is constantly spinning and when i use MSI fan control it defaults to my second video card which always reads 0% on red and black fans.  Now i check my case and my black vrm fan is always running even though i am sitting at 42 c idle. Is it because i have two monitors plugged in and set to SLI?
I am on the latest drivers for nvidia and my motherboard asus

what gives?  I do not get it
please help

It is intended that the gpu fan will not run below around 65°C. VRM fan depends on the VRM temp not gpu temp. If VRMs do require cooling as getting hot the fan will spin. Check their temps with Afterburner.

That means the 09S / 03S / 010  are the first versions of the msi gtx 970? so for the logic the 11S / 05S / 030 version are the last graphics made?

Cheers,

Pretty much but might not be exact.
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: ford127721 on 22-December-14, 20:58:17
So I'm back here. Fan issue is not gone, started again.
After uninstalling Nvidia drivers the fan issue will be gone, I'm absolutely confused, is it my card(the worst thing) or is it nvidia?
And I'm also pretty dissapointed because of it..
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: flobelix on 23-December-14, 01:04:16
You have been told already: If issue is not fixed for you despite this vbios helps in 90% of cases contact MSI about it or rma the card. >>How to contact MSI.<< (https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=107326.0)
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: ford127721 on 29-December-14, 13:55:41
Yes, I know I have been told, but I want to find solution however, I don't give up so easily. If this fan issue happens again, I will try to reconnect fans cable, I've read somewhere, it was helping.
But now, my cards temperature goes up to 58 - 60 like if I don't do anything, so the fans sometimes starts and stops, MSI Afterburner temperature line is rippling.
Yes, I know it must to be go on if temperature goes up to 60 degrees but are there any solutions to keep temperature down to 50 degrees? Excepted for raising fan speed.
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: flobelix on 29-December-14, 14:47:28
The cooler is not meant to have the fan running at all below 65°C. As it should run passive it is of course just barely below that temp even in idle. If you want the fans to run always create an Afterburner profile.
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: francescobarchielli75 on 01-January-15, 13:59:33
My GTX970 is v316-050b1412...
Bios version NV316MH.184
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: flobelix on 01-January-15, 16:30:36
That's a later card with latest vbios.
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: cyrillegrosdemange on 19-January-15, 22:53:02
Hi, I had the fan issue on my brand new MSI GTX 970 4G and found the first thread (with a lot of pages)

In the end, I updated the Afterburner app (First I wasn't be able to set manually the fan's RPM after update, It's OK)
Then updated the Vbios using "MSI Live Update" App. version needed detection & download is automatic.

Since, I didn't had any problem yet ...

I tried to answer on the first thread to tell you that but seems to be locked so I use this one
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: flobelix on 21-January-15, 17:14:52
Who are you talking to?
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: batangel1986 on 01-February-15, 11:39:55
No more posts... evry one have fixed the problem with fan  runing at 100% when u start a game or app??
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: Nichrome on 01-February-15, 12:34:11
No more posts... evry one have fixed the problem with fan  runing at 100% when u start a game or app??
Seems like it, yes  :smile:
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: batt970 on 08-February-15, 00:35:56
Hey
Now is above NV316MH_182 bios!
68C card, I sometimes black frame fan will not start!
Other hand, if I push it starts,and stops if the test is stopped
I put up NV316MH.184 ? Improve what?
MSI Live Update will be?
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: flobelix on 11-February-15, 19:05:19
Latest is NV316MH.186. Try that --> https://www.dropbox.com/s/9eiqxcq9vw1upeh/NV316MH186%2BNVflash.rar?dl=0
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: batt970 on 11-February-15, 20:10:01
thank you

You may be able to improve what? (Bios)

warranty does not?
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: flobelix on 11-February-15, 20:35:28
You may be able to improve what? (Bios)

MSi does not offer a changelog so unknown.

warranty does not?

If you want to ask if flashing voids warranty then answer is no. It#s an official MSI vbios meant for your card so vbios is fine.

thank you

You're welcome

 
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: batt970 on 11-February-15, 20:45:32
Thank you very much!   :worship: :worship: :worship:
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: batangel1986 on 12-February-15, 11:03:08
Can some one hellp me , i updated my 2x msi gtx980 gamin to the lates bios, the random fan problem is gone . But when i start a game or somethnig that loads the video card  the first gtx980 in slot , the black fan ramps up to 100% . when i slap the places of the 2 cards again the first one in slot do the same black fan goes to 100%. Thats happening evan when the tamps of the card are under 50c it takes a 30sec-to 1min in game to ram up to 100% . that happens in all my games evan Leage of legends.... and there is no change if a play on Ultra or Low setthing and AA on or of dont make a difrence.... my  Monitor is Acer 1080p. Tryed all posible setthing in Nvidia control panel but again no difrence... My mobo is Asus maximus VII hero if that have to do something?? whan i play i use the msi game app to put the black fans at minimal 30% and when i play like that the tems dont go over 53c withaut the app with black fan at maxx they stay oround 47c . Pls some one hellp me lates bios from msi live update is NV317MH.113 . sorry for bad english and messy tiping im realy gething mad i got the 2 cards at the end of septhember and till now nothing have changed the same loud @$%$....
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: flobelix on 12-February-15, 14:45:15
batangel1986, please open an own topic for this different issue following >>Posting Guide<< (https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=38822.0)
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: batt970 on 15-February-15, 23:41:40
Hello!

The problem is not resolved! NV316MH_182,,,NV316MH.184,,NV316MH.186

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWpEu2jaaGE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWpEu2jaaGE)

I can not always bring about!

Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: flobelix on 16-February-15, 05:06:15
 :rolleyes: It's the one fan not working issue that can't be solved by vbios as clearly stated in the initial post...


*Please note that this just covers the issue with the fans randomly starting and not the problem of one fan not starting at all on earlier cards which is a defect that requires rma.*


Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: marko.r.castillo on 18-February-15, 10:21:07
So I kind of did something stupid. Hopefully nothing too serious happened.

-install NV316MH_191.rar
-uninstall drivers
-execute nvflash.exe NOT 191.batch
-I find out I was supposed to use NV316MH_182.rar
-execute 181.batch
-restart windows
-black/gray display, nothing will pop up
-I'm sweating bullets by this point
-turned it on again and it's fine now.
-installed drivers again

Did I mess up anything serious? Anyway to fix it?
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: flobelix on 18-February-15, 17:49:02
Add S/N.
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: marko.r.castillo on 19-February-15, 07:29:54
Add S/N.

Mine is the 03S model.
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: flobelix on 19-February-15, 18:09:38
Update to latest version NV316MH.186 that is attached. Flash it like described in the initial post. It comes with the same batch setup (186.bat).


After downloading the matching archive first uninstall the Nvidia driver (!) then simply decompress the archive and then execute the included batch file (182.bat in case of NV316MH.182's archive) in Windows by double clicking or via command prompt (must be run as administrator)

Quote from: wiesel201 in http://forum-de.msi.com/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=107032
(http://217.110.237.70/wiesel201/Bilder/GTX970.jpg)


Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: batt970 on 20-February-15, 00:01:38
Hello!

 Is this the same bios?  https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=184740.msg1455169#msg1455169 (https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=184740.msg1455169#msg1455169)  Dropbox link?  Because I was not good!
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: flobelix on 20-February-15, 15:50:15
 :think: You were not good??? What should that mean? Anyway, the vbios is the same but the dropbox link does not include a .bat file for automated flashing.
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: batt970 on 20-February-15, 22:26:03
 hi
none of the fans started up while the card was around 90celsius my card might have the hardware issue with the fans!
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: flobelix on 20-February-15, 23:30:48
I already told you before...

Hello!

The problem is not resolved! NV316MH_182,,,NV316MH.184,,NV316MH.186

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWpEu2jaaGE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWpEu2jaaGE)

I can not always bring about!

:rolleyes: It's the one fan not working issue that can't be solved by vbios as clearly stated in the initial post...


*Please note that this just covers the issue with the fans randomly starting and not the problem of one fan not starting at all on earlier cards which is a defect that requires rma.*



Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: admitr2 on 27-February-15, 10:21:13
Hello!

I have the same issue with 970M but with 6G memory. Is some firmware compatible?
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: flobelix on 27-February-15, 14:00:45
This just covers problems with GTX970/980 graphic cards. for issues with notebooks open a thread in notebook section: https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?board=71.0
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: sephiroth_sp on 28-February-15, 02:08:25
i have this 970 gaming 4g serial number : v316-050b ¿what bios i have to use? thanks
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: flobelix on 28-February-15, 12:37:59
i have this 970 gaming 4g serial number : v316-050b ¿what bios i have to use? thanks

NV316MH.186 provided above:

https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=184740.msg1456331#msg1456331
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: datwitch on 05-March-15, 23:29:48
hi, I have a 970 with 09S s/n, I think I have a 184 bios, can I update to the 186 posted above? my bios file is attached.

thanks
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: Svet on 06-March-15, 10:59:40
yes, you can
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: abo8Spam on 07-March-15, 17:26:04
Hello, I have S/N 602-V316-090B14xxxxxxxx which vBios should I download ?

Also would the fixed Bios be UEFI GOP compatible (Just to make sure with Hybrid Bios)  ?

*970 Golden Edition, 2nd Fan 100%, current Bios 84.04.31.00.F9 / NV316MH.1F3

Many Thanks!
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: flobelix on 08-March-15, 11:05:36
Latest is NV316MH.1F4 (attached). flash like described above.


After downloading the matching archive first uninstall the Nvidia driver (!) then simply decompress the archive and then execute the included batch file (182.bat in case of NV316MH.182's archive) in Windows by double clicking or via command prompt (must be run as administrator)

Quote from: wiesel201 in http://forum-de.msi.com/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=107032
(http://217.110.237.70/wiesel201/Bilder/GTX970.jpg)



There is no vbios for any GTX970/980 that is not UEFI GOP compatible as Nvidia doesn't mean legacy vbios version still be used for Maxwell generation.

Note that if fan stays at 100% but the other does barely move it is defective and can't be fixed by a vbios.
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: mluppov on 09-March-15, 19:30:09
1F4 is usable for all GTX 970 Gaming or for Gold Edition only? Thanks.
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: flobelix on 09-March-15, 19:52:33
Of course just for the certain batch of Golden Edition. If looking for a correct version provide S/N and a copy of the current vbios like anyone else.
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: sacolpa on 20-March-15, 12:32:23
Update to latest version NV316MH.186 that is attached. Flash it like described in the initial post. It comes with the same batch setup (186.bat).

Hi,

Sorry but this thread ( forum ?) is a mess.
There are 2 criticals infos here and i had to dig to found out that i need to update my bios.
I was about to flash with bios 182 from the 1st page when i stoped and went to the 4th page where i found that there is a 186 bios for my card.CMON !

so please :

1/ update the first page with the latest release of bioses.

2/ Make this thread sticky ok sorry for this one, looks like i was looking in "GAMING" graphic card section ... why 2 splitted sections ? AFAIK gtx 970/980 are gaming cards ...

We all spent around 400 bucks to found out we have to monitor fans to check if it spins ( ! ) and tolerate coil whine.
What about MSI doing his job first ?
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: flobelix on 20-March-15, 13:44:26
1/ update the first page with the latest release of bioses.

The subject of this thread was to fix the fan issue what .182 does not provide the latest vbios. If it is provided later in the thread that's an extra. Normally vbios versions need to be requested in an own thread.


2/ Make this thread sticky ok sorry for this one, looks like i was looking in "GAMING" graphic card section ... why 2 splitted sections ? AFAIK gtx 970/980 are gaming cards ...

We all spent around 400 bucks to found out we have to monitor fans to check if it spins ( ! ) and tolerate coil whine.
What about MSI doing his job first ?

As MSI about it: >>How to contact MSI.<< (https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=107326.0)
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: jerppu on 28-March-15, 21:35:03
Just to clarify.
Before flashing bios, after uninstalling geforce drivers you don't have to restart?
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: Nichrome on 28-March-15, 21:36:53
It's rather suggested to restart before flashing. Before it restarts, driver sets up some command that tells processes and files that are currently working to not work and remove themself while booting up.
But if you don't want to, don't do it.
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: jerppu on 28-March-15, 21:51:29
Of course one should restart but it just struck me that there was no mention of it here.

My 970 is currently running on 184 and seems like there can be no harm done by refreshing the bios.
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: flobelix on 28-March-15, 21:59:25
You should NOT restart after uninstalling driver else I would have mentioned it. If restarting without completely uninstalling (only possible in safe mode) driver will reinstall.
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: jerppu on 28-March-15, 23:08:48
You should NOT restart after uninstalling driver else I would have mentioned it. If restarting without completely uninstalling (only possible in safe mode) driver will reinstall.

Noted.

Thanks
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: Nichrome on 28-March-15, 23:18:11
You should NOT restart after uninstalling driver else I would have mentioned it. If restarting without completely uninstalling (only possible in safe mode) driver will reinstall.

My fault there  :bonk:
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: Azrael36 on 03-April-15, 12:57:04
Hello, I have recently upgraded my GPUs from Gaming 760's to SLI Gaming 970's. I must say that these are some of the best performing GPUs I have ever owned. They perform flawlessly and are extremely powerful. Now to the matter that brings me to post. I bought the first Gaming 970 in December for a Christmas present to myself, I loved it so much I figured 2 would be twice as good, right? SO I bought a second one a few weeks ago, and well 2 is better than one! The cards appear to be running different VBIOS versions and I was going to flash them to the latest version since I have a long weekend. Here are the 2 VBIOS versions that I currently have. 84.04.28.00.F1 and 84.04.31.00.F1

Are there any special precautions to take when flashing VBIOS running SLI GPUs? I understand that SLI will be disabled after removing Nvidia drivers with DDU. Will there be an option to specify which card to flash to?
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: flobelix on 03-April-15, 15:49:58
Azrael36, this is not a vbios update thread but as the title says "Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue". For a vbios request open an own topic: >>Please read and comply with the Forum Rules.<< (https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=64858.0)

In your new thread note that someting like "84.04.28.00.F1 and 84.04.31.00.F1" is no real vbios version. Add S/N and actual current vbios file then: >>GOP / UEFI Vbios requests - Read Here First<< (https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=167763.0)
Title: Re: GTX 970 gaming 4G {bios}
Post by: Azrael36 on 04-April-15, 10:39:23
Thanks Flobelix, I will do that
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: drnik976 on 01-May-15, 15:04:52
What is the latest version ?

S/N:602-V316-04SB14090xxxxx
Thank you
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: Nichrome on 01-May-15, 17:59:38
Azrael36, this is not a vbios update thread but as the title says "Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue". For a vbios request open an own topic: >>Please read and comply with the Forum Rules.<< (https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=64858.0)

In your new thread note that someting like "84.04.28.00.F1 and 84.04.31.00.F1" is no real vbios version. Add S/N and actual current vbios file then: >>GOP / UEFI Vbios requests - Read Here First<< (https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=167763.0)

What is the latest version ?

S/N:602-V316-04SB14090xxxxx
Thank you
:nono:
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: crawfish on 03-May-15, 05:00:02
Ok, I've been having this issue since I bought it back the 1st month this card was available and of one of the fans (non afterburner controlled) once it starts spinning,
it keeps on spinning even when the temp falls below 30C.

I already flashed it,
Has this issue been fix or is it just my card that is screwed up?
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: flobelix on 03-May-15, 11:05:41
The problem that is supposed to be fixed  (GTX970/980 Gaming Fans Randomly Turning On issue) is fixed starting the initial vbios versions offered in this thread. As you did not list any details of your card I can't tell if there is a later one maybe helping in your config.
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: ch.pfennigs on 03-May-15, 12:40:32
Hello everyone,

my serial number of my 980 is:

602-V317-100B1412***
Which version schould I take?


Thanks a lot! :)
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: crawfish on 03-May-15, 13:11:07
The problem that is supposed to be fixed  (GTX970/980 Gaming Fans Randomly Turning On issue) is fixed starting the initial vbios versions offered in this thread. As you did not list any details of your card I can't tell if there is a later one maybe helping in your config.

Sorry,

s/n: 602-v316-03sb1409066093

I flashed it with
NV316MH_182

(http://gpuz.techpowerup.com/15/05/03/at7.png)



Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: Svet on 03-May-15, 13:39:31
.186 is the latest version https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=184740.msg1456331#msg1456331
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: flobelix on 03-May-15, 16:51:44
Hello everyone,

my serial number of my 980 is:

602-V317-100B1412***
Which version schould I take?


Thanks a lot! :)

NV317MH.114 --> https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=252901.msg1453742#msg1453742
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: crawfish on 04-May-15, 01:05:35
Ok,
s/n: 602-v316-03sb1409066093

I flashed it with
NV316MH_186

----
It seems to make it worse.
Now the fan that I can't control turns on even when I'm idle.
The fan that I can control is at 0.

Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: Nichrome on 04-May-15, 09:30:08
@crawfish

You seem to have to RMA the card, best if through MSI so they send you working one: >>How to contact MSI.<< (https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=107326.0)
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: looter222 on 05-May-15, 00:13:38
Hey everyone, so I have an MSI Z77A-GD65 (MS-7751) motherboard with an Asus STRIX GTX 970, and have been noticing the card kick into performance level 4 (3D Applications) while on my desktop or browsing the web, when it should be idling. The serial number on the box for the card is as follows (F1C0YZ415252). Which VBIOS should I download and proceed to flash my card with, if any? Any help is greatly appreciated!
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: Nichrome on 05-May-15, 01:00:26
Hey everyone, so I have an MSI Z77A-GD65 (MS-7751) motherboard with an Asus STRIX GTX 970, and have been noticing the card kick into performance level 4 (3D Applications) while on my desktop or browsing the web, when it should be idling. The serial number on the box for the card is as follows (F1C0YZ415252). Which VBIOS should I download and proceed to flash my card with, if any? Any help is greatly appreciated!
:think: Your graphics card is NOT MSI's product, so we are unable to help you with this. Ask Asus.
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: crawfish on 09-May-15, 03:13:33
@crawfish

You seem to have to RMA the card, best if through MSI so they send you working one: >>How to contact MSI.<< (https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=107326.0)

Hello,
I started the RMA, but as soon as I filled it out and submitted it,
but as soon as I hit the submit button,
it automatically sent the next page as RMA has been approved?  that quickly?
it says and email will be sent to me,
but so far I have not seen it.  It has been days.

Is this normal?
Thanks

Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: Svet on 09-May-15, 11:16:38
maybe the email its in SPAM foldeR?
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: crawfish on 09-May-15, 14:40:55
maybe the email its in SPAM foldeR?

I checked the spam, it isn't there.
My other question is like, is it supposed to be like an auto-reply when I submitted
the RMA? 
Forgive me for asking.  I don't do RMA much at all.
Don't they have to review it first?
how can they just simply use an automated process to approve an RMA? 
Just wondering from a noob perspective.
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: Svet on 09-May-15, 14:45:06
I checked the spam, it isn't there.
My other question is like, is it supposed to be like an auto-reply when I submitted
the RMA? 
Forgive me for asking.  I don't do RMA much at all.
Don't they have to review it first?
how can they just simply use an automated process to approve an RMA? 
Just wondering from a noob perspective.

Not sure[me and moderators in a forum don't work for MSI]
You can call them to have a ask, for your USA region here: http://us.msi.com/about/contact-us
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: rubenportier on 07-June-15, 20:26:21
Hello

Since a couple of weeks I am now experiencing this issues too. I have a GTX 970 4G with S/N: 602-V316-010B1412127675. As I understand, I need to use the bios with the 010 number. But that driver seems older then the one I've currently installed. Live Update 6 tells me that I have VBIOS NV316MH.184. The one I should download according to the first post is .182.

So, how can I fix my issue now? Both fans start spinning randomly without any high temps. They just start spinning and then stop after 1 - 2 seconds.

EDIT: I'm very sorry to say, but after some more research, I've noticed that it's not my graphics fans that start spinning, it actually is my H100i. I do not have installed any drivers for it, because Corsair Link sucks and does not work at all on Windows 8.1.
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: hideki_nagunama on 15-July-15, 12:37:35
Hi,

I've just got the 970 Gaming from MSI. I want to be sure that I have a finr workingGPU and no bugged one. Live Updater tells me I have the version MH-V316 NV316MH.186.

Is this okay?
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: Svet on 15-July-15, 12:39:04
yes it is
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: thomasgo.unterwegs on 15-July-15, 13:09:57
can i flash it to on my gtx970 Gaming 4G

sn: 602 - V316 - 18SB1502005568

last 2-3 days seems the newest nvidia drivers crashes randomly.

perhaps post the right link to the right vbios? .. pls help me! :)

Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: Nichrome on 15-July-15, 15:03:53
This vbios is only to fix random fans issue. Graphics driver crashing is sadly driver being the issue.
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: thomasgo.unterwegs on 15-July-15, 15:29:13
ok ... i read something about a bios fix for a vram error ... is this actually and do need this? .. except the driver error
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: flobelix on 15-July-15, 17:30:41
thomasgo.unterwegs, for your own issue open an own topic. This thread is not for general troubleshooting but the "Fans Randomly Turning On issue" only.
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: jeroen_debruyne on 17-July-15, 12:22:50
Hello I also have a MSI 970, suddenly when just browsing or PC in idle my fans ramp up very loud for sometimes 10 or 20 seconds than back to normal. I think its because it hits 60° ? I don't know but its annoying...

My S/N : 602 - V316 - 130B1505054102 , I am unsure what bios to take or how to fix...

Current bios according to live update : NV316MH.186
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: flobelix on 17-July-15, 12:25:25
NV316MH.186 is the latest vbios for your card and not affected by the Fans Randomly Turning On issue this thread is about. Open an own topic for your issue and there add the temp the fans do speed up.
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: jeroen_debruyne on 17-July-15, 13:03:17
Ok, maybi its still not fixed? :D They also do turn on for 10sec times at quite high rpm even if its only 55°
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: flobelix on 17-July-15, 13:06:16
It is fixed. Again open your own thread.
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: glumsch on 12-August-15, 18:42:58
Hello, Ive got a new MSI GTX970 Gaming 4G and I was curious if I need a bios update or if I have the newest already. Nvidia Inspectors says Bios is: 84.04.36.00.F1

Thanks!
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: flobelix on 12-August-15, 19:00:32
For just a vbios update please open an own thread and there add the S/N and current vbios saved to file. The numbers provided are useless and no real vbios version.
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: cah4e3.86 on 18-August-15, 07:37:06
For me, problem is fixed only partially, more info here: https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=259869.0 (https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=259869.0)
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: flobelix on 18-August-15, 14:32:19
Because you don't have the issue this thread covers. Stick to your own thread.
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: steve on 02-September-15, 22:10:39
I received my new GTX 980 2 days ago and everything was fine. Now today some problems started at first I only noticed that windows is kinda "laggy" when moving windows and random actions. Then I played some games and I had really crappy frame rates like 20-30fps in Dota2, Diablo3 etc. At least in D3 there are some spikes to 60 fps...

I searched and searched and then I noticed that during gaming only one Fan seems to spin. The one farther from the slot spins and the one in front (nearer to the connectors) does not spin. And thats how I ended up in this thread. Now I checked the SN of my card and its not listed.

Do I have a different problem or...?

SN is 602 - V317 - 180B....
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: flobelix on 05-September-15, 10:33:05
Your problem has nothing to do with this thread's random fan starting problem. One of your fans does not work what might be indicating a bad fan. Open an own thread for checking.
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: d1versity on 13-September-15, 15:12:59
hi i have the version 130B on the s/n is this normal when the tempretature is below 60 the dual fans stop when im playing it goes to 60+ both fans are spinning thanks
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: flobelix on 13-September-15, 16:38:02
This is totally not related to the issue of this topic. Next time open an own topic.

Stopping the fans below 60°C is the Zero Frozr key feature of this card... So yes it's normal.

(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u274/flobelix/zero_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: d1versity on 13-September-15, 16:52:06
sorry i was new to this forum thanks anyway :)
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: jeroen_debruyne on 24-September-15, 14:19:11
I just got a GTX980 gaming 4G. And have a problem with one fan, the card is like 40° but one fans keep turning on spinning slowly though and nothing in no software reports it spinning.

I have checked S/N and doesnt need a bios update...

Most of the time it is also the only fan spinning while playing some games but I guess thats normal but the fan turning on in idle while the GPU is 41° is not normal...

What should I do ?
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: flobelix on 25-September-15, 12:36:32
Open an own thread please. That's nothing covered by this thread.
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: kaotik on 16-December-15, 01:50:02
I'm starting to run out of ideas here
MSI GeForce GTX 980 Gaming 4G, had the usual issues with 2nd fan spinning for no reason
Fixed it first time by just shutting down computer
2nd time I needed to reinstall drivers, shutting down didn't work
3rd time I needed to update vBIOS, reinstalling drivers and shutting down didn't work

Now it's doing it again, 4th time (I've only had this card for short'ish period of time)
I'm already on latest vBIOS, so can't really upgrade that, tried shutting down, re-seating the card, reinstalling drivers, no luck.
Only thing I haven't tried is just flashing the same newest vBIOS again and hope it fixes the issue, but it seriously isn't an option that I go and flash the vBIOS every time the card decides to act up like this.
I think this time it started after the computer went to sleep, and woke up - or at least I was greeted by Windows 10 log in screen in the morning when it was spinning again.
Win10 x64, GeForce 359.06 drivers, MSI Afterburner is installed and obviously can't see the 2nd fan

Losing my mind over this, I really wouldn't want to block the fan completely to make it stop
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: flobelix on 16-December-15, 17:43:39
This is not the issue of this thread. Please start your own.
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: zgeorge.rf on 27-December-15, 14:49:45
I have GTX 970 GAMING 4G with serial 602-V316-03SB1411007063
OS WIN 8.1 64 bit.

One of the fans randomly starts (i think it need some 3d app is running, though). It seems that it working with 100% power (very loud) and never stops once started. Only turning off/on computer helps.
I've tested my video card with furmark and fans worked well, rising/lowering speed accordingly gpu temperature
When random start happened in almost idle state (may be some light nondemanding 3d app is running)  - all test programs shows fan speed = 0, but in reality , speed, of course, is very high

What should i do to resolve this problem?
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: flobelix on 28-December-15, 10:55:18
That is not the issue of this thread that is about an earlier vbios issue starting both fans randomly. Only one fan starting at 100% on a 970 Gaming is in 90% of cases a hardware defect that requires rma. I already stated that in the initial post of this thread:


*Please note that this just covers the issue with the fans randomly starting and not the problem of one fan not starting at all on earlier cards which is a defect that requires rma.*
 

To be sure open your own thread where you provide the card's S/N and a copy of the current vbios.
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: archer on 15-January-16, 03:11:23
thnx mate, friend was about to return it but now we have a fix. :biggthumbsup:
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: alex.neis on 12-May-16, 18:20:38
Hello! so i bought the MSI GeForce GTX 970 4G and got the same issue with the fans.
My S/N is 602-V316-440B1601003001

Which file do i need to use?
Thanks a lot for an answer!
~ alex
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: flobelix on 12-May-16, 19:39:05
Your card is too new to be affected by the issue this thread is about. Your card is from January 2016. The issue has been fixed in 2014. Open your own thread with a detailed description of the issue, the S/N and a copy of the current vbios.
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: tiolucasss on 12-August-16, 01:24:14
Hello! so i bought the MSI GeForce GTX 970 4G
SERIAL 602-V316-050B1412021058
NEED THIS STOCK LAST PLATE BIOS , I DO NOT HAVE SUPPORTING THE ORIGINAL AND I'M RUNNING WITH A MODIFIED PROBLEMS BIOS GIVING THANKS


IM NEED VBIOS NV316MH.186 
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: Svet on 12-August-16, 01:40:17
you can find it here
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=184740.msg1456331#msg1456331
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: tiolucasss on 12-August-16, 01:41:24
THANKS SVET
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: tiolucasss on 12-August-16, 01:50:39
svet have trouble vbios flash, which can habrir a new thread , it is as if the estubiera vbios locked, have installed a modified bios will not let me return to factory settings which is not the problem
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: flobelix on 12-August-16, 07:20:52
tiolucasss, this thread is not for general troubleshooting or vbios requests. Open your own please.
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: alex on 17-August-16, 13:51:47
Dude, thanks you very much!

I have a 980Ti and I have this problem.
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: flobelix on 18-August-16, 13:55:19
No, you don't have this exact problem. 980ti was never affected. You have any other problem. Please open your own thread for it.
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: jeremie on 10-October-16, 14:29:20
Hello
I hope someone can advise me
I have a GTX 970 4D
serial 602-V316-130B and I'm not sure which bios i should use

my problem currently is that i did not change anything in my computer but whenever i run a game the computer reboots.
i've tried fresh install same thing :/
i tried with internal GPU there so far no crash but of course game is unplayable ^^

thx in advance
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: flobelix on 10-October-16, 16:44:36
Please open your own thread adding full system specs (>>Posting Guide<< (https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=38822.0)) and a copy of your current vbios
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: msi on 16-October-16, 11:01:17
does anyone have experience with this issue on a GTX 1060 6g oc ? 

im experiencing it currently
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: flobelix on 16-October-16, 16:30:33
This issue does not affect the 1060 it is an issue related to very early GTX 980/970 vbios versions that is the only subject of this thread. Open your own thread please if you have an own issue.
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: hussainjassim19 on 19-March-17, 19:17:20
what about rx 480 4g gaming x ?:)
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: Nichrome on 19-March-17, 19:38:10
what about rx 480 4g gaming x ?:)
Read the thread title, again.
If you have issue, open new thread.
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: dj_steez65 on 03-May-17, 07:17:43
Hello everyone, 
Does this VBIOS applies to my msi GL72 6QF laptop ? Fans are quite noisy.. My bios and firmware are fully updated and i just installed my new ram HyperX impact 16 GB 2133mhz. My ram must overclock itself but it runs a liitle bit slower, like 2128 mhz, So each module runs at 1064,4 mhz or close. What are the best vbios settings for my laptop ? Could you guys help me out to get the max out of my machine for gaming? I'd really appreciate that ! If anny other modifications must be done, i'd be happy to here them from experts in tuning your rig. 
My laptop specs are : http://www.materiel.net/ordinateur-portable/msi-gl72-6qf-856fr-136035.html

Thank you !
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: Nichrome on 03-May-17, 10:02:36
Yet another user..
Read the title. This applies ONLY to desktop graphics cards. And only to GTX970/980.
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: dj_steez65 on 03-May-17, 10:19:26
Yep iam sorry i was to quick i posted it in the right topic my apologies
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: larsj1977 on 01-September-17, 21:10:03
I have had my gtx970 since 2014 and it just started doing the "spin up every 30 seconds while idle" a few days ago, this fix still applies?

Pulled serial from cpu-z:
G606T22H05HL

Thank you :)
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: flobelix on 01-September-17, 21:34:11
What GTX 970? Add S/N and a copy of the current vbios (not some number columns that are no real vbios version)
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: larsj1977 on 01-September-17, 21:36:40
How do I go about getting that info for you?
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: flobelix on 01-September-17, 21:39:01
From your card. There is a sticker on the back with the S/N and I guess you know what you have. Follow: >>GOP / UEFI Vbios requests - Read Here First<< (https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=167763.0)
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: larsj1977 on 01-September-17, 21:47:46
MSI GeForce GTX 970 GAMING - 4GB GDDR5
S/N 602-v316-09sb1411001219

the file is GM204.rom but I had to rename it to jpg to be able to upload it.
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: flobelix on 01-September-17, 21:50:43
You have vbios NV316MH.181 it should have fixed the issue already. None the less latest is NV316MH.186 so update to that: https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=184740.msg1456331#msg1456331 (https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=184740.msg1456331#msg1456331)
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: gt40vssilvia on 02-September-17, 10:48:20
I have a 980 4G since march 2015. The airflow in case is fairly restricted, however card was constantly staying at reasonable 43 degrees at idle and reaching 76 on max load. Recently (2 weeks ago) I was cleaning PC, disassembled PC, assembled everything back again with no changes whatsoever (no hardware/software changes). After that, for some reason, card started to go above 43. On first startup after reassembling it reached 50 while idling, then fan turned on, brought it back to 40 and since then the card is always fluctuating between 40 and 45. Reaches 45, active frozr turns on one fan to 30%, cools down to 40, turns off and then during 10-15 minutes it goes up again to 45, and so on. Max temperature on load is completely the same as before(!). Any ideas on why has the idle temp risen and fan profile is so weird?

Edit: I have considered flashing bios, but now completely lost because of my S/N
S/N: 602-V317-100B1412088095
BIOS: NV317MH.113
Title: Re: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
Post by: flobelix on 02-September-17, 23:36:56
Your post has obviously nothing at all to do with the topic "Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue". This isn't a vbios update thread nor is it about gpu temps after reassembling. The temps are fine anyway. If you want to discuss anything about your card or you need help open an own thread.