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MSI GAMING => GAMING Graphics Cards => Topic started by: m.liolias on 09-May-19, 21:58:38

Title: BIOS request for MSI GTX 1070 GAMING X
Post by: m.liolias on 09-May-19, 21:58:38
Hi,

I updated my bios version 86.04.26.00.3E which I did not back up, I trusted official update which was published few years back, to version 86.04.50.00.2A, and it is unstable, it freezes graphics card when playing games.
I also create support case for my card, but I am not sure if it helps :)
here is my S/N 602-V330-43SB1608007635
Title: Re: BIOS request for MSI GTX 1070 GAMING X
Post by: flobelix on 09-May-19, 22:13:10
I updated my bios version 86.04.26.00.3E which I did not back up, I trusted official update which was published few years back, to version 86.04.50.00.2A,

These infos are useless. None of that is a real vbios version.

The latest original vbios is NV330MH.242: https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=302551.msg1755476#msg1755476
Title: Re: BIOS request for MSI GTX 1070 GAMING X
Post by: m.liolias on 09-May-19, 22:47:24
I downloaded 242 version and filesize is identical, assuming then it is it what I have, but for me it is faulty and I would like to revert back to previous version, which might be then 241? in report there is MSINV330MH.241 so I will try 242 even if it is identical

info I was able to get from nvflash
Adapter: GeForce GTX 1070     (10DE,1B81,1462,3302) H:--:NRM S:00,B:01,D:00,F:00

Identifying EEPROM...
EEPROM ID (EF,6013) : WBond W25Q40EW 1.65-1.95V 4096Kx1S, page
Reading adapter firmware image...
IFR Data Size         : 2184 bytes
IFR CRC32             : 6E00EBEA
IFR Image Size        : 2560 bytes
IFR Image CRC32       : 5AA51C27
IFR Subsystem ID      : 1462-3302
Image Size            : 262144 bytes
Version               : 86.04.50.00.2A
~CRC32                : E8A2363C
Image Hash            : 68C69FAB1F001C296C4D64F0FECDB9AF
OEM String            : NVIDIA
Vendor Name           : NVIDIA Corporation
Product Name          : GP104 Board
Product Revision      : Chip Rev  
Device Name(s)        : GeForce GTX 1070
Board ID              : ED0C
PCI ID                : 10DE-1B81
Subsystem ID          : 1462-3302
Hierarchy ID          : Normal Board
Chip SKU              : 200-0
Project               : G411-0020
CDP                   : N/A
Build Date            : 10/07/16
Modification Date     : 10/24/16
Build GUID            : 00000000000000000000000000000000
UEFI Support          : Yes
UEFI Version          : 0x30005 (Sep 12 2016 @ 21147289 )
UEFI Variant Id       : 0x0000000000000007 ( GP1xx )
UEFI Signer(s)        : Microsoft Corporation UEFI CA 2011
InfoROM Version       : G001.0000.01.04
InfoROM Backup Exist  : YES
License Placeholder   : Present
GPU Mode              : Graphics
Sign-On Message       : GP104 PG411 SKU 20 VGA BIOS
MSINV330MH.241
Title: Re: BIOS request for MSI GTX 1070 GAMING X
Post by: flobelix on 10-May-19, 16:50:03
You are currently using NV330MH.241 still as said NV330MH.242 is the latest original and to be used.
Title: Re: BIOS request for MSI GTX 1070 GAMING X
Post by: m.liolias on 12-May-19, 11:05:30
yes, I downloaded and applied latest
and I anyway, since I started updating BIOS, went into an issue, when my default clocks are 1582/boos 1785MHz and when running games, it jumps to 1930MHz, 
even if I revert back to original BIOS, I tried all 3 versions, default from MSI, and other 2, including latest one, it remains the same
somehow default clocks/voltage is overriden, I monitored in GPUZ and somehow this is broken, automatic boos etc, is not what it was before 1st bios update :(
I will dig in other topic threads
Title: Re: BIOS request for MSI GTX 1070 GAMING X
Post by: flobelix on 12-May-19, 12:39:08
when my default clocks are 1582/boos 1785MHz and when running games, it jumps to 1930MHz,
even if I revert back to original BIOS

That is normal and the way it should be. There are no fixed clockrates anymore. The gpu will determine the boost clockrates possible according to power, load and temp situation. Advertised boost clockrates are just typical boost speeds at least possible in most situations.
Title: Re: BIOS request for MSI GTX 1070 GAMING X
Post by: m.liolias on 12-May-19, 21:34:23
That is normal and the way it should be. There are no fixed clockrates anymore. The gpu will determine the boost clockrates possible according to power, load and temp situation. Advertised boost clockrates are just typical boost speeds at least possible in most situations.
that should be ok, if running ok :) but if default clocks are states as these: 1506/1683, or some other 1797 MHz / 1607 MHz (OC Mode),1771 MHz / 1582 MHz (Gaming Mode),1683 MHz / 1506 MHz (Silent Mode) and it goes to 1582 as silent and goes to 1932, which is crazy
Title: Re: BIOS request for MSI GTX 1070 GAMING X
Post by: flobelix on 13-May-19, 21:24:23
I have no idea what problem you have. I already explained it.
Title: Re: BIOS request for MSI GTX 1070 GAMING X
Post by: m.liolias on 13-May-19, 23:28:20
I have no idea what problem you have. I already explained it.
yes thank you
but boosting is going too much over the limit of the hardware, I understand if it could do 1800 temporarily, but not 1932MHz, it immediately crashes / freezes
Title: Re: BIOS request for MSI GTX 1070 GAMING X
Post by: flobelix on 14-May-19, 18:52:18
No, 1932Mhz is not too much. If it crashes there is another problem.  Add full system specs: >>Posting Guide<< (https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=38822.0)
Title: Re: BIOS request for MSI GTX 1070 GAMING X
Post by: m.liolias on 14-May-19, 21:22:11
No, 1932Mhz is not too much. If it crashes there is another problem.  Add full system specs: >>Posting Guide<< (https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=38822.0)
well, then I need to understand what is happening in my system, GPUZ log enclosed, you can see it immediately crashed, and voltage stats from motherboard monitoring tool
I added info about my pc
Title: Re: BIOS request for MSI GTX 1070 GAMING X
Post by: flobelix on 14-May-19, 21:53:22
Try the card in a different pc if possible
Title: Re: BIOS request for MSI GTX 1070 GAMING X
Post by: m.liolias on 15-May-19, 12:24:10
Try the card in a different pc if possible
bad news, same scenario happens in other PC with my graphics, also tried different graphics card in my pc, and it just proved, it is an issue on graphics card
I tried 4 different BIOS versions, issue appears everytime with different bios, I do not follow, how the bios update could break my card.
Feeling is, it just stop working when more load to the card, stops and freezes game, or eventually it also goes to BSOD.
Any tools to verify what part is broken in card? thanks for any help or ideas to check.
Title: Re: BIOS request for MSI GTX 1070 GAMING X
Post by: flobelix on 15-May-19, 21:08:08
If it also crashes in a different pc the card is simply bad. RMA it.