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Title: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: Leonard on 21-August-19, 17:23:35
X570 BIOS AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B
https://www.msi.com/blog/amd-combo-pi-1004-bios-update (https://www.msi.com/blog/amd-combo-pi-1004-bios-update)

MEG X570 GODLIKE  1.0.0.4 Patch B 7C34AMS.1XX
Download (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_uVZTOiqaPz-LYmkClH9VEvZiZRYWjf6/view?usp=sharing)

MEG X570 ACE 1.0.0.4 Patch B 7C35AMS.1XX
Download (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1OZcvxsABmo_-6i3k1rXIzk9_UJyTIg8b/view?usp=sharing)

PRESTIGE X570 CREATION 1.0.0.4 Patch B 7C36AMS.1XX
Download (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1j7OObGDwEFga7sfvcsVKr_NCMrkhk3hI/view?usp=sharing)

MPG X570 GAMING EDGE WIFI 1.0.0.4 Patch B 7C37AMS.1XX
Download (https://drive.google.com/file/d/14TxwRRaxCmIbs95NyrBeaLJGpwiAu5jE/view?usp=sharing)

MPG X570 GAMING PLUS 1.0.0.4 Patch B 7C37AMS.AXX
Download (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1H5vnBEfCkVBYHQU3js2DtmjjyyA_BQx1/view?usp=sharing)

X570-A PRO 1.0.0.4 Patch B 7C37AMS.HXX
Download (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-GImpK0RX7sNbPCdL3VfPW_86iEkUBAl/view?usp=sharing)

MPG X570 GAMING PRO CARBON WIFI 1.0.0.4 Patch B 7B93AMS.1XX
Download (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wTM6PmC49dZe8zpzTjzpFGbKO1RO5qK5/view?usp=sharing)

MEG X570 UNIFY 1.0.0.4 Patch B 7C35AMS.AXX
Download (https://drive.google.com/file/d/137Vag4kubjgSfqJHMsLBwnEBHcVqgX1k/view?usp=sharing)

400s MAX AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B
B450M PRO-VDH MAX 1.0.0.4 Patch B 7A38AMS.BXX
Download (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Ju9CVC7Nw_CWF16MZWkr9XFWu0eyQjyJ/view?usp=sharing)

X470 GAMING PLUS MAX 1.0.0.4 Patch B 7B79AMS.HXX
Download (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wP6R_OfRHlszOfvouFEQz4dYRydTERXK/view?usp=sharing)

X470 GAMING PRO MAX 1.0.0.4 Patch B 7B79AMS.MXX
Download (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1T3TLMBpe5INDlWlHgPHf6bt0nUaedZDZ/view?usp=sharing)

B450M PRO-M2 MAX 1.0.0.4 Patch B 7B84AMS.AXX
Download (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1PcsEg_BeCYgTo0Z_2qmLcrFtXHq-PFzZ/view?usp=sharing)

B450 GAMING PLUS MAX 1.0.0.4 Patch B 7B86AMS.HXX
Download (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TJbwVPOSiSoxhVvnMSJKX-hoDPrBoKRZ/view?usp=sharing)

B450-A PRO MAX 1.0.0.4 Patch B 7B86AMS.MXX
Download (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1j4sspxMMRielVXGmmKPakFgJAQZ8YF4T/view?usp=sharing)

B450M MORTAR MAX 1.0.0.4 Patch B 7B89AMS.2XX
Download (https://drive.google.com/file/d/18cIwXF_IiHKiJHKknkmlo6_LD0PWiRF_/view?usp=sharing)

B450 TOMAHAWK MAX 1.0.0.4 Patch B 7C02AMS.3XX
Download (https://drive.google.com/file/d/17tCZp8PuiE-l-COmrmWlzj_3He9z6d33/view?usp=sharing)

A320M-A PRO MAX 1.0.0.4 Patch B 7C52AMS.2XX
Download (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fkaStnsrJZc6--Iu72XA6lX_-SvTNIYJ/view?usp=sharing)

B450M-A PRO MAX 1.0.0.4 Patch B 7C52AMS.3XX
Download (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1AJkgiY6q5f0GY_oTmCqOuniU761MzJun/view?usp=sharing)

X570 BIOS AGESA 1.0.0.3ABBA
Caution!!
1. Better download the latest AMD tool (Ryzen Master) from AMD website for verification
2. This BIOS does not affect DRAM overclocking much but memory may become a little bit more unstable above 4600Mhz (MICRON)
3. You may try disabling GearDownMode to have better performance if using HYNIX single side die
4. Might not observe significant change if CPU cooler is not powerful enough (Stock Cooler)

Note.
CPPC (Collaborative Power And Performance Control) - Work with Ryzen 3000 + X570 only!!
Auto/Enable -> System would have better performance but CPU frequency will not drop during idle (use windows 10 with update after MAY + Cinebench R15)
Disable -> CPU frequency will drop to save energy during idle
Location in BIOS
(http://www.coolaler.com.tw/toppc/X570/CPAP.PNG)
Auto/Enable - 2176cb
(http://www.coolaler.com.tw/toppc/X570/CPAPON.PNG)
Disable (drop to 2.2G) - 2163cb
(http://www.coolaler.com.tw/toppc/X570/CPAPOFF.PNG)

CPU frequency optimization
3800X - 4550Mhz
(http://www.coolaler.com.tw/toppc/X570/3800X.PNG)
3900X - 4625MHz
(http://www.coolaler.com.tw/toppc/X570/3900X.PNG)
Title: Re: AMD BIOS Update
Post by: mozgus on 21-August-19, 17:34:48
Giving it a test now for X570-A Pro. Whenever I turn on the OC Genie, it fails to POST. I have a new Ryzen 3600.

Edit: POSTed fine and I'm in windows with my 600mhz overclock. Nice. Hope it's rock solid. Using an AIO water cooler.
Title: Re: AMD BIOS Update
Post by: enrico.apel on 21-August-19, 21:48:29
The file in the link for the X570 Gaming Plus is wrong. It says A37, but inside the zip you just find A36, like the same from the ftp server as a beta. Could you reupload it please? Thank you!
Title: Re: AMD BIOS Update
Post by: reduxpl on 21-August-19, 22:04:49
Why have these been posted here on forums instead on download pages for all the corresponding motherboards?
And I hope AGESA 1.0.0.3ABB is coming for B450 boards, is it? Any more changelogs about those? CPU LED issues fixed?
Title: Re: AMD BIOS Update
Post by: paprika79 on 21-August-19, 22:45:41
Well this is nice, would be nice if the X470 and B450 owners would get the 1.0.0.3abb based bios too. Ton of people having all kinds of issues. There seems to be a general compatibility issue with the 400 series chipset and Zen2 based CPUs, then even configurations that ran perfectly fine for weeks or months, all of a sudden start getting issues without changing anything on the system.
Title: Re: AMD BIOS Update
Post by: montyac on 21-August-19, 22:50:40
Anyone want to update the Tomahawk bios and report if there is any improvement?
Title: Re: AMD BIOS Update
Post by: vladok02pr on 21-August-19, 23:15:33
Hello guys. Is this beta version or official? If beta does it worth to get it as i have problems with system stability?

I have bought X570 A Pro and Ryzen 3600 with memory G.Skill Trident Z 3200 but system occasionally reboots and not giving to play games or doing stress tests as PC turns off and i dont know what to do.
Title: Re: AMD BIOS Update
Post by: Nichrome on 21-August-19, 23:17:00
:beta:

These are BETA versions

:beta:
Title: Re: AMD BIOS Update
Post by: Chike on 22-August-19, 00:24:30
Hello guys. Is this beta version or official? If beta does it worth to get it as i have problems with system stability?
If they are beta they are not official
like the OP say
BIOS update is not recommended unless your system is NOT working properl.

Quote
I have bought X570 A Pro and Ryzen 3600 with memory G.Skill Trident Z 3200 but system occasionally reboots and not giving to play games or doing stress tests as PC turns off and i dont know what to do.
Open your own thread you may be helped.
Title: Re: AMD BIOS Update
Post by: throwaway100 on 22-August-19, 00:33:40
Is it safe to use this bios on the x570-a pro? HWINFO64, CPU-Z and MSI Afterburner report locked frequency and voltage. Ryzen master does not.
https://i.imgur.com/OAa8jQq.png
Edit: Yeah I think this BIOS is garbo. I can't see boosts past 4275mhz on my 3600X. Reverting back to 7C37vH10..
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: mongoled on 22-August-19, 09:28:50
x370 left out to dry,

why thanks MSI, you are a real bro................................
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: cyquil on 22-August-19, 10:09:59
Glad that MSI are still posting updates. I was following the MSI_GAMING reddit closely and haven't heard anything for over a month now. Is there any approximate time that the 400 series boards will start getting ABB?

With my Tomahawk B450 and 3700X I flashed the V19 BIOS however I had booting issues. Had to press the power button, wait for several seconds until the hardware turned on (but didn't post) and then hit the reset button. It was quite weird but worked.

V1A is installed at the moment which made the booting issue go away, however I got a BSOD during the first boot. And then another several days later, and another again. Haven't had an issue since, and hoping it stays that way.
Title: Re: AMD BIOS Update
Post by: alanflanker on 22-August-19, 13:40:21
Giving it a test now for X570-A Pro. Whenever I turn on the OC Genie, it fails to POST. I have a new Ryzen 3600.

Edit: POSTed fine and I'm in windows with my 600mhz overclock. Nice. Hope it's rock solid. Using an AIO water cooler.
What the final clcok? 4.8Ghz on 3600? 4.2 + 0,6 = 4.8
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: renzov on 22-August-19, 14:27:00
i updated my bios to .137 as i have the MSI X570 Gaming Edge Wifi MB........but it does not goes above 4275MHz boost.
The previous beta bios 136 gave me ~4500MHz, so I'm a bit disappointed by this beta version 137......
And when i now go back from 137 to 136 I can also not replicate my previous speeds :cry:
No OC , only setting I changed was turning XMP on and changing boot to UEFI (so no CSM).
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: jere.cosita88 on 22-August-19, 15:23:57
Thanks MSI
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: nerimas86 on 22-August-19, 17:33:25
Any Word on B450 Carbon? Im still on V17, everything works quite good, but those low usage clocks and voltages. I can solve it by choosing power saver plan, but it gimps my whole perf like 30%.
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: sandvic on 22-August-19, 18:34:22
MSI MPG X570 Gaming Edge WiFi.
Enabling XMP causes system to freeze during boot using 2 x Corsair Vengeance LPX CMK16GX4M2D3600C18. This didn't happen with latest 1.36 selecting the right profile so flashed back.
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: MiCzlor on 22-August-19, 20:26:53
Newest Beta Bios for B450-A Pro is working fine as it seems.
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: Pretenzia on 22-August-19, 21:53:23
MEG X570 ACE with 7C35v144 (AGESA 1.0.0.3abb)
 * No more bug with stuck on POST after MCLCK+FCLCK raising up to 3600(1800)
 * Significantly reduced perfomance (max XFR clocks on 3900X - 4414MHz)

Seems no more changes there. Will check later.
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: joshhowarddd on 22-August-19, 22:22:18
I been having all sorts of blue screen of deaths and crashes for 2 weeks waiting for a fix for my x570 board, flashed this latest bios and my windows installed perfect!
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: Nichrome on 22-August-19, 22:52:16
For any ETAs please contact MSI => >>How to contact MSI.<< (https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=107326.0)
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: mhajii210 on 22-August-19, 22:55:51
Guys I have the MPG X570 Gaming Plus MB with Ryzen 3700X. After updating my BIOS to this beta version, I noticed immediately a much more aggressive fan curve resulting in a much louder stock cooler even when idle. I forgot how the previous BIOS default fan curve was set-up, but once I switched back to the latest stable, I noticed default stable has 100% fan rpm at 85C and beta has it set at 70C or 75C (can't remember which one). I definitely prefer the current stable default fan curve. Why was it changed? It's way too aggressive on the latest beta! Please fix this. Anyone else care to check to see what the default beta BIOS fan curve looks like?
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: Nichrome on 22-August-19, 22:58:19
It's BETA for a reason :bonk:
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: reduxpl on 23-August-19, 05:50:56
Which is why we're reporting issues, so they can get fixed.
On the B450 TOMAHAWK BIOS the sleep/suspend function no longer works properly, instead of properly waking up the PC stays on black screen for a while and proceeds to reboot.
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: MiCzlor on 23-August-19, 10:13:30
Guys I have the MPG X570 Gaming Plus MB with Ryzen 3700X. After updating my BIOS to this beta version, I noticed immediately a much more aggressive fan curve resulting in a much louder stock cooler even when idle. I forgot how the previous BIOS default fan curve was set-up, but once I switched back to the latest stable, I noticed default stable has 100% fan rpm at 85C and beta has it set at 70C or 75C (can't remember which one). I definitely prefer the current stable default fan curve. Why was it changed? It's way too aggressive on the latest beta! Please fix this. Anyone else care to check to see what the default beta BIOS fan curve looks like?
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: oatkk.th on 23-August-19, 11:13:02
My MSI B450 Gaming Pro Carbon AC after update this new v193 
Good for OC Dram 
Bad for CPU Performance 

The best Bios is 17m only.
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: oatkk.th on 23-August-19, 12:22:34
1.0.0.3 AB reserves PCI-E 4.0 feature
Do they introduce support or remove it?



For Support but not ......
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: alexlll on 23-August-19, 12:24:19
"1.0.0.3 AB reserves PCI-E 4.0 feature"
Do they introduce support or remove it?
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: jamin280672 on 23-August-19, 17:46:11
Ive just seen they've pulled all of the beta bioses off the motherboards main pages.
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: DeskJocky on 23-August-19, 20:05:06
Ive just seen they've pulled all of the beta bioses off the motherboards main pages.

I read over the forum the OP linked using google translator and it looks like people are having memory stability issues with the beta bios.  

I updated to the beta bios on my  x570 gaming pro carbon w/ 3800x.  3800mhz ram 1900mhz IF is no longer stable.  Cinebench R20 score dropped and had black screen reboot while stress testing.  Lowered to 3733mhz 1867mhz IF and Cinebench R20 score went up 200 points and memtest86 overnight reported no errors.
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: vladok02pr on 23-August-19, 20:08:56
I dont honestly understand why i have to buy brand new and not cheap x570 mobo as it has the same problems as b350 and i need make system works by myself even if i dont know what to do? Why Amd do that thing and bring us so much problems for pretty good money...
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: ivankuz on 23-August-19, 21:00:54
Guys I have the MPG X570 Gaming Plus MB with Ryzen 3700X. After updating my BIOS to this beta version, I noticed immediately a much more aggressive fan curve resulting in a much louder stock cooler even when idle. I forgot how the previous BIOS default fan curve was set-up, but once I switched back to the latest stable, I noticed default stable has 100% fan rpm at 85C and beta has it set at 70C or 75C (can't remember which one). I definitely prefer the current stable default fan curve. Why was it changed? It's way too aggressive on the latest beta! Please fix this. Anyone else care to check to see what the default beta BIOS fan curve looks like?
Confirm, my CPU fan behaves like crazy on small peaks and even when idle. Revered BIOS to stable version.
I am using Hydro Series™ H60 and my temps varies between 35+ (idle) and 65+ (games)

Devs, please fix the fan curve! Thanks!
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: vladok02pr on 23-August-19, 22:04:00
Confirm, my CPU fan behaves like crazy on small peaks and even when idle. Revered BIOS to stable version.
I am using Hydro Series™ H60 and my temps varies between 35+ (idle) and 65+ (games)

Devs, please fix the fan curve! Thanks!
Is 1.0.0.3a stable for you?
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: ivankuz on 23-August-19, 23:08:41
Yes, it’s stable, in stock.
But when I try OC RAM, it can’t POST and boot.
Have to reset CMOS to default.
Hope A37 will be fixed and I will try OC again.
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: Freeman79 on 24-August-19, 08:31:38
is there a new attempt / a new uefi to test?
it's pretty frustrating what's going on at the moment.
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: psychos on 24-August-19, 12:38:40
I read over the forum the OP linked using google translator and it looks like people are having memory stability issues with the beta bios. 

I updated to the beta bios on my  x570 gaming pro carbon w/ 3800x.  3800mhz ram 1900mhz IF is no longer stable.  Cinebench R20 score dropped and had black screen reboot while stress testing.  Lowered to 3733mhz 1867mhz IF and Cinebench R20 score went up 200 points and memtest86 overnight reported no errors.

Can confirm.  I tried the latest beta for Meg x570 Ace using Ryzen 7 3700x and was no longer able to even hit 1800mhz IF when previous .130 build ran it with tightened RAM timings with ease.  I immediately went back to .130.
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: grock72 on 25-August-19, 02:30:01
I'm trying to download Pro carbon X570 beta bios, but the link won't work?
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: jamin280672 on 25-August-19, 06:25:02
I'm trying to download Pro carbon X570 beta bios, but the link won't work?


Really ???? Read the messages above, they've been pulled.
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: dikkedimi on 25-August-19, 11:33:28
I have purchased the B450M Mortar motherboard. I can not change ANY bios options! The system will not POST as far as I can tell. I am not getting any signal on my HDMI ports, both on my videocard and the mainboard HDMI Port fail to give a signal. I have to clear CMOS and boot a couple times before it shows the POST screen agaiin. I also had this problem with my previous GFX card, so it's definitely a motherboard issue!

I have created a support ticket already but MSI is not replying. Does anyone have similar expierence and possibly a solution?.
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: ptindara on 25-August-19, 12:48:31
x570 gaming edge wifi link is not working,  can I have that please?
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: Nichrome on 25-August-19, 12:52:45
Some seems to have been pulled off. There's likely a reason for that.
I think we'll find out tomorrow.
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: dwgreenberg on 25-August-19, 14:44:21
I hope the get this sorted out before the release of the 3950x.

I need the rdrand bug fixed.

Other motherboard manufacturers have stable bios updates out with this patched already, what is the issue with MSI?
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: Chike on 25-August-19, 14:53:59
Other motherboard manufacturers have stable bios updates out with this patched already?
Realy you visit their forums and see not problems, where do you get this info?
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: vladok02pr on 25-August-19, 14:57:28
Realy you visit their forums and see not problems, where do you get this info?
Also have seen that all of the mobo makers Asus, Gigabyte and even Asrock added stable ABB bios for users 2 weeks ago. Dont understand whats going on with MSI.
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: dwgreenberg on 25-August-19, 17:17:11
Realy you visit their forums and see not problems, where do you get this info?

Some people are always going to have issues, so forum post aren't the most reliable way of determining an issue.

I'm sure we've all seen someone having issues with the same hardware we use without any issues.

But the simple fact is that other manufacturers have posted bios updates which are labelled stable (not beta) and remain available for download and those updates do indeed resolve the rdrand bug.

Whereas MSI had a beta bios which lasted a day before needing to be pulled.

That does not inspire confidence!

I would like to add that there are benchmarks showing some high end MSI x570 boards not reaching the same boost clock as some of their rivals. 

I must admit I don't know if this is a simple bios issue as well or poor motherboard design.
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: Pretenzia on 25-August-19, 22:23:05
But the simple fact is that other manufacturers have posted bios updates which are labelled stable (not beta) and remain available for download and those updates do indeed resolve the rdrand bug.

The topic in AMD community confirms MSI mobos only problem with Matisse. -> https://community.amd.com/thread/241414 (https://community.amd.com/thread/241414)

Today I conducted an experiment. I put my 3900X in my wife’s computer (GB X570 Auros Elite 1.0.0.3abb). The result was not surprising, 3900X on GB motherboard behaves in a completely different way. The boost frequency was 4.635GHz with 1.49v. Temperature changes are smooth and fully consistent with data from Ryzen Master.
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: renzov on 26-August-19, 08:41:37
The topic in AMD community confirms MSI mobos only problem with Matisse. -> https://community.amd.com/thread/241414 (https://community.amd.com/thread/241414) Today I conducted an experiment. I put my 3900X in my wife’s computer (GB X570 Auros Elite 1.0.0.3abb). The result was not surprising, 3900X on GB motherboard behaves in a completely different way. The boost frequency was 4.635GHz with 1.49v. Temperature changes are smooth and fully consistent with data from Ryzen Master.

Very interesting indeed.....i'm a bit frustrated reading your findings, i always have Gigabyte boards (AMD and Intel) and for the first time decided to switch to MSI, but seeing the pull back of the beta bios and reading all these story's around i got the feeling i made a big mistake and probably will switch to another brand and do not buy MSI anymore.....
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: John27 on 26-August-19, 09:58:17
I have the same regrets when i read this. This is my first MSI mobo after longs years buying Asus. My motherboard, an MEG X570 Ace was unable to reach max boost on 1 core. My 3900X is unable to pass more than 4550mhz. I've tried many bios settings, nothing work. And when i run OCCT, my processor go from 35° to 85° in less than 2 seconds, lol.
With a D15 or kraken X72, it's the same story.
Please MSI, fix boost and reading temperature !
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: Freeman79 on 26-August-19, 11:40:55
Hope to get some news regarding the Situation, today.
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: Nichrome on 26-August-19, 12:09:17
In regards to boost:
I have been following couple of forums, some retailers, some other vendors
And it seems that it's AMD's AGESA not doing it the way they advertised CPU clocks as.
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: Freeman79 on 26-August-19, 12:28:40
In regards to boost:
I have been following couple of forums, some retailers, some other vendors
And it seems that it's AMD's AGESA not doing it the way they advertised CPU clocks as.

Yes, I've read that, too. Maybe we see higher boosts with AGESA > 1.0.0.5 again...
Neverthless I still have issues with the BIOS and my  MPG X570 GAMING EDGE WIFI
Still high voltages and Temperatures in idle mode.

And yes, I have checked with only ryzen master, made sure I don't have other monitoring tools like iCue, aura sync, dragon center in the background.
I have also changed to windows balanced powerplan for the moment. But still all my 3900x cores are over 4Ghz most of the time.

At the moment I have the beta bios .136 running. Any better suggestion which bios version to go with?
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: dwgreenberg on 26-August-19, 12:35:25
Hope to get some news regarding the Situation, today.

Please keep us updated.

This is my first ever MSI motherboard and I picked it because they seemed to have a good reputation, with people like buildzoid saying MSI bios's are his favourite.

They really seem to have dropped the ball on this one.
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: Freeman79 on 26-August-19, 12:54:00
Please keep us updated.

This is my first ever MSI motherboard and I picked it because they seemed to have a good reputation, with people like buildzoid saying MSI bios's are his favourite.

They really seem to have dropped the ball on this one.
Same here, first MSI Mainboard in over 20 years...
I mean it's a new platform and stuff, and it only can get better.
also I have high hopes the lag of uefi versions is cos MSI tests everything out to the max before they release something, while other brands just drop them to peoeple to test.
at least still I'm believing in this...
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: Freeman79 on 27-August-19, 07:31:25
X570 BIOS AGESA 1.0.0.3ABB
Note.
1. A-XMP now has only one profile
2. You can disable GearDownMode in BIOS now
3. Fix issue when user has to clear CMOS if encountering OC Fail hanging F9 behavior. Now BIOS will revert back to default after 2 fail tries.
Well, there are new beta-bios on the support pages for the boards, but Files are missing :(
@Leonard
You changed links in OP to the new versions, but downloads are not working.
Versions already pulled again?
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: ken_cupido on 27-August-19, 10:04:45
Greetings from Japan!
MPG X570 GAMING PLUS 1.0.0.3 ABB 7C37AMS.A38 link shows "File not found" :cry:

Has someone been able to download the file and can link it to me?

Thank you very much!
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: Freeman79 on 27-August-19, 11:03:18
They are all up now.

Seems that version is one to work with. Great!
Allthough I still have "high" Temperatures and Voltage in idle.

I'm cooling with a MasterLiquid ML240P Mirage and have around 50°-60°C in idle mode.
messured with Ryzen Master and no other monitoring tools in the background.

That can't be normal, or is it ?
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: vladok02pr on 27-August-19, 11:51:51
All ABB BIOS's are on the support page. Does it mean that it is more stable and it worth of updating?
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: Pretenzia on 27-August-19, 16:26:32
Allthough I still have "high" Temperatures and Voltage in idle.

Even with Cool'n'Quiet PState_0 ?
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: Freeman79 on 27-August-19, 16:35:11
yes :/

Well, today we have a hot day, too. 33°C also.
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: DeskJocky on 27-August-19, 16:54:14
X570 Gaming Pro Carbon will not boot to M.2 drive with the re-released beta bios 1.24(Agesa 1.0.0.3abb).  Had to roll back to 1.10(Agesa 1.0.0.3a).   Bios detects the drive as present but does not boot to it.  The pulled beta bios 1.23(Agesa 1.0.0.3.abb) did boot from the m.2 drive properly.

Was able to at least boot to USB with memtest86 and confirm memory overclocking stability is still reduced on the new beta bios 1.24(agesa 1.0.0.3abb).  3800mhz 1900 IF is stable for me with the 1.0.0.3a bios.  3733mhz 1867 IF is the highest stable overclock I can get with 1.0.0.3abb bios.
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: Pretenzia on 27-August-19, 17:09:11
3800mhz 1900 IF is stable for me with the 1.0.0.3a bios.  3733mhz 1867 IF is the highest stable overclock I can get with 1.0.0.3abb bios.

This is because IOCore VID has been reduced, you need to manually raise it for 1900MHz.
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: DeskJocky on 27-August-19, 17:44:15
This is because IOCore VID has been reduced, you need to manually raise it for 1900MHz.

So I need to change CPU Core Voltage to offset mode and increase voltage to accomplish this?
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: Pretenzia on 27-August-19, 17:54:39
So I need to change CPU Core Voltage to offset mode and increase voltage to accomplish this?

Not CPU, only IO_SOC and DRAM voltages. For your speeds, it will be ~ 1.15-1.2v for IO and ~ 1.43-1.45 for DRAM. As I can see, AMD has reduced the default voltages, but I could be wrong. And you must remember that with increasing voltage of IO_SOC you will get lower XFR speeds, because PB is calculated from the whole packege.
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: DeskJocky on 27-August-19, 19:26:44
Not CPU, only IO_SOC and DRAM voltages. For your speeds, it will be ~ 1.15-1.2v for IO and ~ 1.43-1.45 for DRAM. As I can see, AMD has reduced the default voltages, but I could be wrong. And you must remember that with increasing voltage of IO_SOC you will get lower XFR speeds, because PB is calculated from the whole packege.

Thanks for pointing this out.  My SOC was set to default "Auto" Setting.  If they reduced the default that could explain my stability issues.  

Unfortunately, I wont be able to test this right now.  I had to roll back the bios due to the beta bios not booting to my m.2 drive.
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: Pretenzia on 27-August-19, 21:54:40
Well, just tryed last BIOS update (145 for MEG ACE).

And.. And i have a lot of questions to MSI dev team.

1. We’ll call this settings section - we decided to kill your memory.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/U2TJP6oFJpAZvs4m8

2. Guys, why did you make a copy of the OC section in Advanced? Moreover, changes in the main section are not appear in the Advanced section, and vice versa. Which one of them workable? I've changed VDDG and VDDP in Advanced section, and after reboot they rolled back to Manual 1.1V. o_O ???
https://photos.app.goo.gl/MpzWE9akjqsF6tHH7

3. This is the fourth version of BIOS, and the problem with the offset of DRAM voltage has not been fixed.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/vzupVAr99WqEPrm1A

And many more questions, but a little later. While continuing to test.

P.S. Thanx for thermal data on Q-Code led indicator.
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: ken_cupido on 28-August-19, 03:48:38
This 1.0.0.3ABB Beta BIOS fixed the WHEA 17 Errors on windows 10 startup for my x570 Gaming Plus board.
I was hoping this would fix the GPU Fans going 100% during pre-POST for about 4 seconds then goes back to normal during POST and just before BOOT.

Coming from a z97 platform, i'm not used to the GPU fans (MSI 2080 Trio x Gaming) blasting full speed during pre-POST.
It wasn't doing this on my previous motherboard.

Is this normal pre-POST behavior for the 3rd gen ryzen platform?

I've seen multiple posts with this concern from reddit and other forums as well, but without any clarification on this issue.
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: DeskJocky on 28-August-19, 07:01:41
X570 Gaming Pro Carbon will not boot to M.2 drive with the re-released beta bios 1.24(Agesa 1.0.0.3abb). Had to roll back to 1.10(Agesa 1.0.0.3a). Bios detects the drive as present but does not boot to it. The pulled beta bios 1.23(Agesa 1.0.0.3.abb) did boot from the m.2 drive properly. Was able to at least boot to USB with memtest86 and confirm memory overclocking stability is still reduced on the new beta bios 1.24(agesa 1.0.0.3abb). 3800mhz 1900 IF is stable for me with the 1.0.0.3a bios. 3733mhz 1867 IF is the highest stable overclock I can get with 1.0.0.3abb bios.

Just wanted to post an update on this.

System was trying to boot to the usb drive I flashed bios with instead of my m.2 drive.  m.2 had priority but removing the flash drive allowed me to boot.

The memory overclock instability was caused by CPU/NB SOC voltage default/auto setting being lowered in the beta bios. Manually setting this higher stabilized my memory overclock.

I have a new issue to report.  All cpu cores now idle at 4.4ghz 24/7 on the beta bios.  Rolled back to 1.0.0.3a bios and the issue disappeared.  Flashed the beta bios again at stock settings to make sure it wasn't a fluke and the issue appeared again.
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: ivankuz on 28-August-19, 07:51:01
Main issues for me with A38 bios:

1) CPU fan default profile is broken, it sets 100% fan speed on 70C CPU temp instead 85C as in stable bios.

2) AMD Windows power plans do not work anymore... Power Balanced and Power Saver do not affect CPU speeds at all.

3) CPU speeds on idle are very high and CPU temp is high too.

Devs, if you are reading this, please fix these issues before releasing new stable version.

Running 3700X on X570 Gaming Plus.
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: Freeman79 on 28-August-19, 07:53:53
The memory overclock instability was caused by CPU/NB SOC voltage default/auto setting being lowered in the beta bios. Manually setting this higher stabilized my memory overclock.

I have a new issue to report.  All cpu cores now idle at 4.4ghz 24/7 on the beta bios.  Rolled back to 1.0.0.3a bios and the issue disappeared.  Flashed the beta bios again at stock settings to make sure it wasn't a fluke and the issue appeared again.



Main issues for me with A38 bios: 1) CPU fan default profile is broken, it sets 100% fan speed on 70C CPU temp instead 85C as in stable bios. 2) AMD Windows power plans do not work anymore... Power Balanced and Power Saver do not affect CPU speeds at all. 3) CPU speeds on idle are very high and CPU temp is high too. Devs, if you are reading this, please fix these issues before releasing new stable version. Running 3700X on X570 Gaming Plus.

Enabled AMD Quick & Quiet in the BIOS and disabling PBO + setting the Windows balanced Powerplan (not the Ryzen one) made my cores clock down and go to sleep in idle mode. Also make sure not to have any monitoring tools in the background.

Anyway that shouldn't be like this and I hope MSI is still on that issue and it won't take them another 7 weeks for an other bios version.
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: ivankuz on 28-August-19, 08:29:51

Enabled AMD Quick & Quiet in the BIOS and disabling PBO + setting the Windows balanced Powerplan (not the Ryzen one) made my cores clock down and go to sleep in idle mode. Also make sure not to have any monitoring tools in the background.

Anyway that shouldn't be like this and I hope MSI is still on that issue and it won't take them another 7 weeks for an other bios version.
I use the default BIOS settings, and do not OC. You want to say that AMD Quick & Quiet is disabled and PBO is enabled by default in this beta BIOS?
If true, this is a very strange MSI decision. I will check it out later today.
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: Freeman79 on 28-August-19, 08:49:43
I use the default BIOS settings, and do not OC. You want to say that AMD Quick & Quiet is disabled and PBO is enabled by default in this beta BIOS?
If true, this is a very strange MSI decision. I will check it out later today.
It's both on "auto", at least on my x570 gaming edge.
And you can't trust that "auto"
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: jcoatanea on 28-August-19, 10:35:20
Getting Linux kernel panics on the latest beta bios for the x570-a pro board.
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: DeskJocky on 28-August-19, 16:12:08
Enabled AMD Quick & Quiet in the BIOS and disabling PBO + setting the Windows balanced Powerplan (not the Ryzen one) made my cores clock down and go to sleep in idle mode. Also make sure not to have any monitoring tools in the background. Anyway that shouldn't be like this and I hope MSI is still on that issue and it won't take them another 7 weeks for an other bios version.

Can confirm on x570 Gaming Pro Carbon.  AMD Quick & Quiet - Auto = disabled.  Setting to Enabled allowed the cores to idle down.    

PBO doesn't appear to be enabled.  Ryzen Master reports processor is at defaults.
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: ivankuz on 28-August-19, 16:51:29
Can confirm on x570 Gaming Pro Carbon.  AMD Quick & Quiet - Auto = disabled.  Setting to Enabled allowed the cores to idle down.    

PBO doesn't appear to be enabled.  Ryzen Master reports processor is at defaults.
Do you know if this setting is enabled or disabled by default in 1.0.0.3a BIOS?
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: Freeman79 on 28-August-19, 16:54:03
Do you know if this setting is enabled or disabled by default in 1.0.0.3a BIOS?

Same in all versions until now
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: DeskJocky on 28-August-19, 16:59:52
Do you know if this setting is enabled or disabled by default in 1.0.0.3a BIOS?

On the x570 Gaming Pro Carbon the default auto setting enabled it in 1.0.0.3a bios.
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: jcoatanea on 28-August-19, 20:01:18
Update: it seems that the kernel panics are caused by the NVIDIA driver, when trying to start linux without the NVIDIA driver it seems stays stuck on systemd boot... Either that or the graphical interface fails to start.
Could this have something to do with the automatic kernel/ram voltage/clockspeed settings?
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: ivankuz on 28-August-19, 21:48:23
Freeman79, DeskJocky, thank you!

Enabling AMD Quick & Quiet in BIOS fixed the high CPU clock and temperature at idle, and all Power plans are now working correctly!

Only one disadvantage, max CPU clock is 4374 MHz, like in stable 1.0.0.3a BIOS. Previously, before enabling AMD Quick & Quiet, it was able to get 4399 MHz in boost.
I suppose MSI decided to disable AMD Quick & Quiet only to allow CPU to reach 4399 MHz in boost, but it did more harm than good.
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: Pretenzia on 29-August-19, 00:28:57
7C35145 (MEG ACE)

With a little tuning works better than 130 and 144, but a lot of bugs in the UI of BIOS.

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Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: Freeman79 on 29-August-19, 20:12:39
7C35145 (MEG ACE)

With a little tuning works better than 130 and 144, but a lot of bugs in the UI of BIOS.

[attachthumb=1]
What are your CPU temperatures and Volts in idle mode?
And how are you cooling your CPU
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: Pretenzia on 29-August-19, 21:57:16
What are your CPU temperatures and Volts in idle mode?
And how are you cooling your CPU

Idle - 0.96v 3.0GHz 40-55°C
Full Load - 1.2v 4.05GHz 70-73°C
Boost - 1.4-1.5v ~4.5GHz 80-82°C

Custom EKWB water loop (1080 Ti and CPU on one loop with 240/25 radiator)

[attachthumb=1]

It seems like it should be cooler and quieter, but something wrong. On GB X570 Aorus Elite idle temperatures was 37-45, and under full load not more than 65.
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: Freeman79 on 29-August-19, 23:43:21
It seems like it should be cooler and quieter, but something wrong. On GB X570 Aorus Elite idle temperatures was 37-45, and under full load not more than 65.

I was thinking the same, something is not right. I use the x570 gaming Edge and also have those high temperatures.
I thought it might be poorly designed, but as you experience the same on your ACE, there might be something different that's wrong.
Sadly I couldn't find any proper info about Temperature issues on MSI boards. I really really hope another bios update can fix this.

Dang, I would even get calmed down a bit, if one that knows says something about these temperatures.

Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: jenders37 on 30-August-19, 02:00:03
X570 Gaming Pro Carbon WiFi

So...this bios boosts a little better than 7B93v11 for me. I regularly am seeing 4.4-4.5ghz across a couple cores however if I do a multi-core benchmark it still REFUSES to go past 4.075ghz. It's like there's a hard wall there regardless of what I change.

Voltage is still :censored: . Doesn't matter if it's HWinfo, HWmonitor, CPU-ID, or Ryzen Master, my 3900X still shows idle at 1.47v so there's no question in my mind that it's an accurate reading. This shows in my bios as well. I've messed with cool n quiet on/off, PBO on/off, etc, no change. All other apps closed, etc. The ONLY thing that will drop idle voltage for me is switching to the Windows power saver power plan. Any of the AMD power plans keep it pegged. I know they've said it's OK, but I just feel uneasy about it.

Temps aren't great...I idle between 40-50c on Ryzen Balanced with my Corsair H150i Pro on balanced settings, still get that 10c Ryzen bounce every few seconds that I also experienced on my 2700X. Switching to Windows power saver plan I idle at 32-33c WITH NO JUMP IN TEMPERATURE. This tells me the idle voltage IS AN ISSUE.
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: rentrapnest2011 on 30-August-19, 14:38:04
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Since I can't contact a moderator via PM (the previous message is displaying), I think that it's better to ask for it here.

So I have a motherboard (MSI B450-A PRO) and I want to see it's CPU Compatibility list since I can't see it on the mobo's page (supp->compatibility) because this error is poping up   [font=DINPro-Regular, Arial, Verdana, Geneva, 微軟正黑體, sans-serif, sans-serif]No results found![/font][/color] 
All I'm asking is to get a link (or smth) to that Mobo's CPU Compatibility list. Pretty please.

Thank you!
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: Freeman79 on 30-August-19, 17:23:55
An Error Has Occurred! You are not allowed to access this section")

Since I can't contact a moderator via PM (the previous message is displaying), I think that it's better to ask for it here.

So I have a motherboard (MSI B450-A PRO) and I want to see it's CPU Compatibility list since I can't see it on the mobo's page (supp->compatibility) because this error is poping up   [font=DINPro-Regular, Arial, Verdana, Geneva, 微軟正黑體, sans-serif, sans-serif]No results found![/font][/color]
All I'm asking is to get a link (or smth) to that Mobo's CPU Compatibility list. Pretty please.

Thank you!

You could try to acces the page in another region, maybe that works for you.
Here the german site: https://de.msi.com/Motherboard/support/B450-A-PRO.html#support-cpu works for me.
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: oatkk.th on 31-August-19, 10:51:41
MSI B450 gaming Pro carbon since v17 bios The CPU perf drop down so much.Please do best bios for this model. 
No one in Thailand recommend MSI Motherboard for now because MSI do BAD AMD Bios .
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: jcoatanea on 31-August-19, 22:46:24
I managed to solve the Linux boot issue by resetting the CMOS.
It seems the BETA BIOS sets some BIOS settings to values that make the system unstable, though i'm not sure which exactly.
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: jere.cosita88 on 02-September-19, 02:45:28
I am using BIOS 145 in my ACE, I am glad that they have put some options in the BIOS, but it is messy.

Thanks
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: fatalus on 02-September-19, 22:43:40
I am using the v138 beta bios in a X570 Gaming Edge and it is perfectly stable and working perfectly with memory speed 3733Mhz CL16 and infinity fabric clock 1867Mhz as in the previous BIOS. It needed though some finetuning in the BIOS, as it sets the VDDP and VDDG voltages too high as default.
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: Freeman79 on 02-September-19, 22:51:25
Well, the latest beta versions work good, but they are way to far from beeing "stable".
Not only that weird standard voltage settings, nor other standard set stuff...
There's still a lot of work to do.

these were one step in the right direction, still some more steps to go. Hope we don't have to wait another 7 weeks until next version drops.
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: peetweb on 04-September-19, 12:01:06
Hello everyone,

first of all, sorry for my english :D.

Iam new to this forum, but iam a long customer of MSI Motherboards, always was happy, but sadly this one seems to be the first that is making me not really happy.
And just a little constructive cristism on the Forum. At least this beta thread. Its really chaotic with people writing all over the place about x570 boards and b450 boards etc.
I was reading through this thread and was immediately confused.

Before this, i had another motherboard, a really cheap B350 (other company, not want to tell here), that i had already laying around and that i just upgraded to a 3700x on it and it even boosted higher than my B450 Tomahawk MAX, that i just ordered, which is already odd.
Sadly the bios on my B350 (other company, not want to tell here) seems to got corrupted (both the main and the backup bios) because of a overclocking attempt. So overall alot of companys are slacking on their ryzen3000 AM4 bioses atm it seems.

My system now is a B450 Tomahawk MAX with a 3700x, a GTX1070 Jetstream and 2x4gb Gskill Ripjaws V Black 3200mhz on XMP Profile nr1.
Except the ram that is on XMP, everything else is stock.

Now to the problem. The board came with the bios V3.0, which i then immediatly flashed to the ABB Bios, V3.12 and it seemed to run for a while with no problems, but after a week or so, the Nvidia Driver nvlddmkm.sy i think (forgott the right name), kept constantly crashing and the eventviewer was full with the nvidia driver recovery and display warnings. Even on bootup, with no load on the GPU, i had weird green artifacts on the monitor.
And even when i came into windows, openeing the browser was enough to BSOD, with the driver crashing and recovering in loop, or even trigger a reboot entirely. It got consistently worse and worse.

I reverted to the AB Bios, V3.1, and it now it seems to be gone.
Before that, i did a fresh windows install and even reverted the nvidia driver, which didnt help. (always used DDU)
Also i reseated all the hardware before, incl. the cooler and it didnt help either.

Just wanted to give you guys a heads up about this. To me It looks like the bios is corrupting itself after a longer period of time running.

Greetings
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: cristianofrota_ on 06-September-19, 18:54:57
My pc with ryzen 3600 is initializing with "2799mhz", even with PBO enable on msi bios. In other words, the stock clock was transformed into "2.8ghz". The problem started with the bios version beta "abb", but i've just tried non-beta H.20 and the problem keeps unsolved. Anyone with this same problem?
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: m0nster212 on 09-September-19, 15:58:47
i have the gaming edge wifi board, and since day one i have the laggy mouse, but thats the only issue, still on first bios.. i am afraid to update the bios just to fix laggy mouse when it seems more issues are showing up when updating.. not sure what to do..
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: renzov on 09-September-19, 17:04:28
i have the gaming edge wifi board, and since day one i have the laggy mouse, but thats the only issue, still on first bios.. i am afraid to update the bios just to fix laggy mouse when it seems more issues are showing up when updating.. not sure what to do..

I also got the x570 gaming edge wifi, but with the latest bios version v13 (.130).....i do not have hardware/software issues, except that i cannot reach the advertising boost speed, but this is currently a known issue and is being worked. (hope this will be solved in the future)............i actually even set all my cores to 4.2 as this was for now the most stable.....i do not really stress my x3900 that often...
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: Freeman79 on 09-September-19, 17:23:28
Why is the Bios situation sooo weird?

Beta Bios version is .138 for the MPG X570 GAMING EDGE WIFI from the 26.08.19
And the "stable" version has the .130 which came yesterday on the support page but is labled with the date 30.08....

Dang MSI, get your shhhh together. It's about time...

BIOS update is not recommended unless your system is NOT working properly.

X570 BIOS AGESA 1.0.0.3ABBA
Caution!!
1. Better download the latest AMD tool (Ryzen Master) from AMD website for verification
2. This BIOS does not affect DRAM overclocking much but memory may become a little bit more unstable above 4600Mhz (MICRON)
3. You may try disabling GearDownMode to have better performance if using HYNIX single side die
4. Might not observe significant change if CPU cooler is not powerful enough (Stock Cooler)

Note.
CPPC (Collaborative Power And Performance Control)
Auto/Enable -> System would have better performance but CPU frequency will not drop during idle (use windows 10 with update after MAY + Cinebench R15)
Disable -> CPU frequency will drop to save energy during idle
Location in BIOS
(http://www.coolaler.com.tw/toppc/X570/CPAP.PNG)

Thanks for that Info @Leonard
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: plutomate on 09-September-19, 18:54:51
it makes sense actually, MSI beta bios start with number at the end, in your case 1.31, 1.32, ......, 1.38, once they decide to release official BIOS with all the solution from 1.3x, they will build bios 1.30 to accommodate all the solution.

to make it clear, the bios release process will be like 1.21, 1.22, 1.23, 1.20, 1.31, 1.32, 1.30 which all the 1.x0 versions are official release

by the way, i think the "release date" is more like "BIOS build date", it never matches the actually "release date" from my experience, lol. and since it takes couple days to verify the bios stability, in your case again, bios was build on Aug, 30, take about a week to verify, so it came out yesterday on the website. Just my guess
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: veganfanatic on 09-September-19, 20:53:54
MSI X470 Gaming Plus did not seem to be on the list :(
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: unsubdk on 10-September-19, 01:54:45
Finally boost work correctly for me on BIOS 7C36AMS.141 1.0.0.3ABBA  ... thank you :worship:

Im on the MSI X570 Creation with a temporary 3600, on all previous BIOS's i hit a wall at 4100 Mhz ... but now i've seen 4200 Mhz on 4 out of 6 cores :)
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: garmatainais666 on 10-September-19, 03:44:19
Random shutdowns on MSI B450M Mortar Titanium, no clue what is causing these shutdowns, using latest bios 7B89vA92(Beta version) A.92 i tried previous version of bios 7B89vA8 too but same problems,i tried to underclock and overclock, cpu, ram, changed gpu and ram slots, tried different settings, played days with overclocked cpu,gpu and ram without problems then sometimes when pc was off after night my first start causing shutdowns when loading windows or in windows or when im gaming or its shutting down even in bios or before bios, nothing overheating everything is cold and installed correctly from manual all drivers are latest from MSI live update, latest amd chipset drivers, latest gpu drivers or without dribers still randomly shuts down ,i tried different power modes in windows too but nothing,i tried other gpu too Radeon HD 5670 and shutdowns happening anyway, memory in 2nd slot and tried other slots too but no luck. PSU Chieftec 750w, ram Goodram IRDM X 8gb 3200 CL 16,GPU MSI r9 390x., CPU ryzen 5 3600. Maybe some sensors shutting down system, i dont know, motherboard is new, cpu is new and ram is new. I used this gpu and psu on other motherboard and everything is fine. How to fix it, its broken motherboard or bios or cpu ,where is the problem , how to fix it ?
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: ivankuz on 10-September-19, 09:30:53
ABBA works much better than ABB, all 3700X cores can reach 4400 Mhz. By the way, the temperature of the processor and VCore at idling is better than that of ABB.
But still, AMD Quick & Quiet is disabled by default...

@Leonard
Could you please explain what is point of disabling AMD Quick & Quiet by default? It disables all Windows power plans and increases the CPU temp.
When I enable it in the BIOS, it fixes the high CPU temps, high VCore, power plans and doesn't affect the CPU performance at all.  I tested it in the different games and benchmarks.
IMO AMD Quick & Quiet should be disabled only if you want to overclock the CPU.
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: furian.sh on 10-September-19, 11:54:20
does any1 have a backup link to the gaming plus bios V41?
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: shurtugal13 on 10-September-19, 11:54:55
ABBA works much better than ABB, all 3700X cores can reach 4400 Mhz. By the way, the temperature of the processor and VCore at idling is better than that of ABB.
But still, AMD Quick & Quiet is disabled by default...

@Leonard
Could you please explain what is point of disabling AMD Quick & Quiet by default? It disables all Windows power plans and increases the CPU temp.
When I enable it in the BIOS, it fixes the high CPU temps, high VCore, power plans and doesn't affect the CPU performance at all.  I tested it in the different games and benchmarks.
IMO AMD Quick & Quiet should be disabled only if you want to overclock the CPU.


Hi,

What kind of settings you use to get it to work ?
I used the new ABBA bios and my cores can't reach more than 4.2Ghz on single core test, and 4.0Ghz on multicore.
Like should you enable PBO, things like that ?

Thanks.
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: jounihelle on 10-September-19, 12:09:26
There seems to be a bug in Gaming Plus BIOS A41. I cannot disable GearDownMode if I manually set Command Rate to 1T. It gets greyed out and stays at 'Auto' which Ryzen Master reports as Enabled. I can however go to 'AMD Overclocking' menu and disable it in there, but that setting does not seem to stick between boots...
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: paulstanik on 10-September-19, 12:13:16
Sound-Bug in Beta-Bios

With your new Beta-Bios-Versions there are problems with Soundblaster Z which are not occurring in the H20 Bios on a X570 A Pro. Some Sound-Channels of the 5.1 Sound are not working over time with H38 or H41 Bios-Version.
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: ivankuz on 10-September-19, 12:15:05
Hi,

What kind of settings you use to get it to work ?
I used the new ABBA bios and my cores can't reach more than 4.2Ghz on single core test, and 4.0Ghz on multicore.
Like should you enable PBO, things like that ?

Thanks.
Hi,

Nothing special, after flashing BIOS enabled uefi and A-XMP profile.
Now, even if the AMD BIOS Quick & Quiet is enabled, the 3700X properly reaches 4.4 GHz and meets the specifications of the processor.
Check you MB and CPU temperatures, maybe it's a cooling problem.
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: shurtugal13 on 10-September-19, 12:25:50
Hi,

Nothing special, after flashing BIOS enabled uefi and A-XMP profile.
Now, even if the AMD BIOS Quick & Quiet is enabled, the 3700X properly reaches 4.4 GHz and meets the specifications of the processor.
Check you MB and CPU temperatures, maybe it's a cooling problem.
I have a Corsair H100i on it. Around 50 at idle, and 67 with a multicore test
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: jounihelle on 10-September-19, 12:26:58
does any1 have a backup link to the gaming plus bios V41?
You can still find it at http://msi-ftp.de:8080/main.html (http://msi-ftp.de:8080/main.html)
Just hit login and go to /BIOS/X570
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: Freeman79 on 10-September-19, 17:48:39
I have a Corsair H100i on it. Around 50 at idle, and 67 with a multicore test

Check if you got programms like iCue running in the background. It's known to stress the CPU
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: goaist on 10-September-19, 20:09:53
Sound-Bug in Beta-Bios

With your new Beta-Bios-Versions there are problems with Soundblaster Z which are not occurring in the H20 Bios on a X570 A Poro. Some Sund-Channels of the 5.1 Sound are not working over time with H38 or H41 Bios-Version.
I Have exactly the same Issue with my Soundblaster Z+R. I am on x570 Gaming Edge wifi Board and no Bios after 1.20 works. Channels switch after a while (front speakers going to center to rear) Thats terrible and nothing helps except flashing back to 1.20! 
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: Freeman79 on 10-September-19, 20:21:59
@Leonard @Mods

Why are the x570 beta version download links pulled from the OP?
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: shurtugal13 on 10-September-19, 21:40:15
Check if you got programms like iCue running in the background. It's known to stress the CPU
Thanks for the tip, but already knew that ^^'.

So I always kill it before running the tests.
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: Nichrome on 10-September-19, 23:33:53
@Leonard @Mods

Why are the x570 beta version download links pulled from the OP?
MSI must have a reason for that. Ask them >>How to contact MSI.<< (https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=107326.0)
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: garmatainais666 on 10-September-19, 23:40:05
Still no 2 versions of bios for b450m mortar titanium when b450m mortar have it(identical mobo with titanium version). Random crashes not letting me using it normally and i cant even update 2 new bios versions and test if it helps to fix my problem.
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: Nichrome on 10-September-19, 23:41:32
STILL NO 2 VERSIONS OF BIOS FOR B450M MORTAR TITANIUM WHEN B450M MORTAR HAVE IT ,THINKING OF SENDING NBACK THIS MOBO , RANDOM CRASHED NOT LETTING ME USE IT NORMALLY AND CANT EVEN UPDATE AND TEST IF IT FIX MY PROBLEM ,NEW BIOS BECAUSE ITS NOT DELIVERED BUT FOR OTHER SAME VERSION OF MOBO IT IS. CAN I USE MOIRTAR STANDARD BIOS VERSION FOR TITANIUM MOBO ?
First, don't use caps. >>Please read and comply with the Forum Rules.<< (https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=64858.0)
Second, no you can't crossflash BIOS. Unless you want a brick.
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: veganfanatic on 11-September-19, 00:14:31
the TLD for the BIOS updates is gone and some parking page has taken over
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: rombat on 11-September-19, 05:28:56
I have sound card issues too, on MSI Prestige x570 Creation... My sounds are all messed up when I use any enhance mode I either get messed up sound or my sound goes off. I am using a Sound Blaster Ae5 at the moment... I did have an external sound card, Sound BlasterX G6, was working great until something change??  Bios, installing a new 5700xt, or windows 10 1903 update??? Sound card issue was present when on Bios 1.34 tried out the new beta abba bios fixed some issues, cpu finally hitting 4.4ghz.... but sound card is still an issue....
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: winrootkit on 11-September-19, 16:04:38
Any word on the B450M Mortar Titanium?
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: dwgreenberg on 11-September-19, 18:20:21
I have sound card issues too, on MSI Prestige x570 Creation... My sounds are all messed up when I use any enhance mode I either get messed up sound or my sound goes off. I am using a Sound Blaster Ae5 at the moment... I did have an external sound card, Sound BlasterX G6, was working great until something change??  Bios, installing a new 5700xt, or windows 10 1903 update??? Sound card issue was present when on Bios 1.34 tried out the new beta abba bios fixed some issues, cpu finally hitting 4.4ghz.... but sound card is still an issue....

There was a known issue with a windows 10 update and add on sound cards.

Does the motherboard sound work OK?
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: rombat on 11-September-19, 20:01:53
There was a known issue with a windows 10 update and add on sound cards.

Does the motherboard sound work OK?

I have not tried out the on-board sound card since I like to use dedicated sound cards for my audio since they tend to play audio better...
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: goaist on 11-September-19, 20:04:47
I am very disapointed at the moment with the sound card issues. Yesterday i orderd a brand new Creative Ae-7 to replace my Z+R wich only works with Bios 1.20 correctly with my x570 Gaming Edge wifi. But i cant get the new card to work :( Installation of drivers works fine but the sound is messed up. I can hear 1-2 seconds of a sound and than cuts off. I try bios 1.41 and than back to 1.20 no change.
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: mozgus on 12-September-19, 10:21:01
Looks like new betas are up, if you can navigate the chinese? https://bbs.nga.cn/read.php?tid=18512047&_fp=2&rand=864 (https://bbs.nga.cn/read.php?tid=18512047&_fp=2&rand=864)

Edit: Well my 3600 is still not boosting past 3.96ghz when benching all cores, and 4.08ghz when benching 1 core. My numbers actually went down about 1% even, so this seems worse than H38 BIOS.
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: Freeman79 on 12-September-19, 17:22:17
Looks like new betas are up, if you can navigate the chinese? https://bbs.nga.cn/read.php?tid=18512047&_fp=2&rand=864 (https://bbs.nga.cn/read.php?tid=18512047&_fp=2&rand=864)

Edit: Well my 3600 is still not boosting past 3.96ghz when benching all cores, and 4.08ghz when benching 1 core. My numbers actually went down about 1% even, so this seems worse than H38 BIOS.
these should be those that are on the OP or in the case of the x570 versions the ones that got pulled from the OP.
I would check the msi ftp to check for beta bios updates. they are all on there.
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: andre.ifg on 13-September-19, 21:18:04
Hello. I also have a Soundblaster Z and I am having problems with the audio. Any solution? I have an X570 Gaming Plus with the latest

Bios (1.0.0.3 ABBA 7C37AMS.A41)
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: montyac on 13-September-19, 21:21:24
Hello. I also have a Soundblaster Z and I am having problems with the audio. Any solution? I have an X570 Gaming Plus with the latest

Bios (1.0.0.3 ABBA 7C37AMS.A41)

You need to start a new post with your issue.
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: rombat on 14-September-19, 04:52:21
Found out why my sound card is messed up including my external sound card when using it on my MSI Creation x570 with MSI Mech 5700xt.  I was reading on AMD official support forum that other users are having problems with their sound cards with their x570 motherboards when using their new Ryzen 7 cpu like my 3700x... It seems to be related to PCIe 4.0 if you have 5700 series card it defaults to PCIe gen4.... for some reason it causes our sound card to drop or stutter or crash. The users advise setting your PCIe from Auto to gen3...   So I went into bios and instead of auto PCIe I picked gen3 on all my PCIe settings in bios. Restarted my computer and bang my sound card (Sound Blaster Ae5) is working again!

  I than tried out my external Sound BlasterX G6 (it always bombs) when I play any YouTube video, it worked! I even tried out Sound Blaster Connect program to see if I could use the preset audio mods that enhance your sound it worked with no issue... So I wanted to make sure it was not a fluke when changing your PCIe to Gen3... I restarted my computer and changed the setting back to auto (Uses gen4)... tried out my sound card and bang, it crash and burn, restarted the pc again and changed it back to PCIe gen3.... sound card working again with no issue.

 So if any MSI mods see this and have contact with the MSI tech people please tell them about the issue with using PCIe gen4... causing conflicts with our sound cards.....I guess that is why they took away gen4 from later motherboards due to some issues with PCIe gen4...
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: jamin280672 on 14-September-19, 17:50:14
Found out why my sound card is messed up including my external sound card when using it on my MSI Creation x570 with MSI Mech 5700xt.  I was reading on AMD official support forum that other users are having problems with their sound cards with their x570 motherboards when using their new Ryzen 7 cpu like my 3700x... It seems to be related to PCIe 4.0 if you have 5700 series card it defaults to PCIe gen4.... for some reason it causes our sound card to drop or stutter or crash. The users advise setting your PCIe from Auto to gen3...   So I went into bios and instead of auto PCIe I picked gen3 on all my PCIe settings in bios. Restarted my computer and bang my sound card (Sound Blaster Ae5) is working again!

  I than tried out my external Sound BlasterX G6 (it always bombs) when I play any YouTube video, it worked! I even tried out Sound Blaster Connect program to see if I could use the preset audio mods that enhance your sound it worked with no issue... So I wanted to make sure it was not a fluke when changing your PCIe to Gen3... I restarted my computer and changed the setting back to auto (Uses gen4)... tried out my sound card and bang, it crash and burn, restarted the pc again and changed it back to PCIe gen3.... sound card working again with no issue.

 So if any MSI mods see this and have contact with the MSI tech people please tell them about the issue with using PCIe gen4... causing conflicts with our sound cards.....I guess that is why they took away gen4 from later motherboards due to some issues with PCIe gen4...


Try with the lastest Sound Blaster AE5 beta driver, see if the issue still occurs: https://www.reddit.com/r/SoundBlasterOfficial/comments/cmd50w/updates_and_status_thread/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/SoundBlasterOfficial/comments/cmd50w/updates_and_status_thread/)

Make sure to fully uninstall your old driver first, all of the parts to it, reboot, then install this one.
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: rombat on 15-September-19, 03:26:30
Try with the lastest Sound Blaster AE5 beta driver, see if the issue still occurs: https://www.reddit.com/r/SoundBlasterOfficial/comments/cmd50w/updates_and_status_thread/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/SoundBlasterOfficial/comments/cmd50w/updates_and_status_thread/)

Make sure to fully uninstall your old driver first, all of the parts to it, reboot, then install this one.

I tried those beta drivers jamin280672 did not work, only work when I switch my PCIe to gen3 instead of using gen4.... If I use gen4 my sound cards starts to have issues. The funny thing is that even my external USB SoundblasterX G6 is affected when I have my PCIe set to gen4... this started to happen when I installed my MSI Mech 5700xt , motherboard saw it was a PCIe gen4 card.  When I was using my GTX 1080 I did not have any issue with my sound cards but that card only uses PCIe gen3 so no issue until I switched over to PCIe gen4 with my 5700xt...
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: orcokabuto on 17-September-19, 23:06:00
Hello. I also have a Soundblaster Z and I am having problems with the audio. Any solution? I have an X570 Gaming Plus with the latest

Bios (1.0.0.3 ABBA 7C37AMS.A41)
Same problem here...
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=325223.0 (https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=325223.0)

Would it be safe (or even possible) doing a BIOS downgrade to the previous version 7C37v12.
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: Freeman79 on 18-September-19, 20:29:53
still no new (beta)Bios, yet :(
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: beth.cross on 19-September-19, 07:56:03
any other MSI Prestige x570 Creation owners daily checking the bios page for any new developments, hoping one day they have a non beta bios for the new micro code ?
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: richard.y on 19-September-19, 11:49:24
Found out why my sound card is messed up including my external sound card when using it on my MSI Creation x570 with MSI Mech 5700xt.  I was reading on AMD official support forum that other users are having problems with their sound cards with their x570 motherboards when using their new Ryzen 7 cpu like my 3700x... It seems to be related to PCIe 4.0 if you have 5700 series card it defaults to PCIe gen4.... for some reason it causes our sound card to drop or stutter or crash. The users advise setting your PCIe from Auto to gen3...   So I went into bios and instead of auto PCIe I picked gen3 on all my PCIe settings in bios. Restarted my computer and bang my sound card (Sound Blaster Ae5) is working again!

  I than tried out my external Sound BlasterX G6 (it always bombs) when I play any YouTube video, it worked! I even tried out Sound Blaster Connect program to see if I could use the preset audio mods that enhance your sound it worked with no issue... So I wanted to make sure it was not a fluke when changing your PCIe to Gen3... I restarted my computer and changed the setting back to auto (Uses gen4)... tried out my sound card and bang, it crash and burn, restarted the pc again and changed it back to PCIe gen3.... sound card working again with no issue.

 So if any MSI mods see this and have contact with the MSI tech people please tell them about the issue with using PCIe gen4... causing conflicts with our sound cards.....I guess that is why they took away gen4 from later motherboards due to some issues with PCIe gen4...
which pci_e slot did you install sound card?
did you adjust the vga pcie speed ?or sound card speed?
what software did you play music or movie?
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: Pretenzia on 19-September-19, 19:44:55
Well
E7C35AMS_151
MEG X570 ACE

Much better

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Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: rombat on 20-September-19, 04:29:38
which pci_e slot did you install sound card?
did you adjust the vga pcie speed ?or sound card speed?
what software did you play music or movie?
 
 I had my SoundBlaster Ae5 on the 6th PCIe slot I changed my video card PCIe slot to gen 3 to get my sound cards up and going. Took out my Ae5  out. I am using my external SoundBlasterX G6 hooked up to USB 3... Like I said if run my video card on PCIe gen4 its located on 2nd PCIe slot.  I have issues but when I switch it out to gen 3 I do not have issues... I have the latest software from Creative and my issue is when I play youtube movies on Chrome the sound goes out or stutters like made. I made sure I also disabled hardware acceleration in Chrome when playing Youtube movies. I been thinking it could be issues with windows 10 1903 latest patch that could be also causing my sound card issues. Read it has cause lots of issues with sound and Microsoft is working on another patch to be released at the end of this month that will hopefully fix the sound issues....
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: shurtugal13 on 20-September-19, 11:54:09
Still can't reach 4.4 with the latest bios on MPG x570 Gaming Pro Carbon Wifi and 3700X ...
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: james00cool on 20-September-19, 13:44:30
Just Tried the new ComboPI1.0.0.3abba (updated from ComboPI1.0.0.3a) works fine so far on my x570 Gaming Pro Carbon Wifi, no BSOD or Errors after 12hours of use.

[font="Segoe UI", "Helvetica Neue", "Liberation Sans", "Nimbus Sans L", Arial, sans-serif]After Installing the bios and booting to windows i immediately noticed the lower voltages when using Chrome and other apps that used to make voltages go all the way up to 1.49v at idle, now it sits at 1.25 when watching videos in chrome and when launching some of my apps and oddly enough, it was using slightly lower voltages (for me atleast) at[/font] all core boost under load in CB20, while still managing to achieve slightly higher CB20 score than the previous bios (ComboPI1.0.0.3a).

Only Problem i did encounter was unrelated to the bios and was with windows itslef as i decided to finaly update windows (after the bios update) due to some buggs from the previous windows update i was experiencing (Start search was broken, Surround sound was busted) and the update did finaly fix my start search but now, it also broke my wifi, witch is now unstable lol, MS should really get their sht together when it comes to new updates.
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: renzov on 20-September-19, 23:12:22
I have X570 Gaming Edge Wifi MB with the 3900X, in the last days i used bios beta version .141 and had a boost core speed of 4625MHz,
Now i installed yesterday the v14 (.140) final version and my boost core speed does not go higher then 4575MHz.
Any one else has the same issue?
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: John27 on 21-September-19, 01:34:56
I have a MEG X570 ACE. On the beta bios, i've exacty the same result as the final.
With single core benchmarks, i Don't go more than 4575 MHz on my 3900X.... It's MSI fault or AMD ?
Noone seems to know.

I read here (https://twitter.com/1usmus/status/1173649968634171393) that when the AMD chipset drivers are reinstalled after flashing, boost work well. But not for me.

If someone have an idea, that would be great.
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: fmatiasii on 21-September-19, 04:06:47
Anyone here with x570 Meg godlike who updated to ABBA already?  any feedback?
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: Nichrome on 21-September-19, 21:11:40
Anyone here with x570 Meg godlike who updated to ABBA already?  any feedback?
Be a hero and do an update first! ;D
It's not a BETA version, so should be fairly stable. Depends how stable version ABBA itself is..
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: renzov on 21-September-19, 23:53:37
I have a MEG X570 ACE. On the beta bios, i've exacty the same result as the final. With single core benchmarks, i Don't go more than 4575 MHz on my 3900X.... It's MSI fault or AMD ? Noone seems to know. I read here (https://twitter.com/1usmus/status/1173649968634171393) that when the AMD chipset drivers are reinstalled after flashing, boost work well. But not for me. If someone have an idea, that would be great.

I also treid to re-install the AMD drivers......it made it worse for me , i now even not boost above the 4500MHz........
So from Beta .141 with 4625 MHZ boost to Official bios .140 with 4575MHz to reinstalling AMD drivers ending up with 4500MHz ;-((
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: fmatiasii on 22-September-19, 12:24:30
This is the result of the latest bios update (a.b.b.a) on my x570 meg godlike:

(https://i.imgur.com/KuUDNy6.jpg)

This is stock setting without any overclocking yet.
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: renzov on 22-September-19, 21:44:51
This is the result of the latest bios update (a.b.b.a) on my x570 meg godlike: (https://i.imgur.com/KuUDNy6.jpg) This is stock setting without any overclocking yet.

What was your CPU temp when you reached 4660MHz?......I have a bit the feeling that the processor boost also depends on the CPU temp......Which CPU cooler do you use?
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: fmatiasii on 23-September-19, 03:29:49
My cpu temps were in the mid 40's and i have a custom liquid cooling setup running with triple rads.

(https://i.imgur.com/I3HYy0D.jpg)
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: renzov on 23-September-19, 07:13:56
My cpu temps were in the mid 40's and i have a custom liquid cooling setup running with triple rads. (https://i.imgur.com/I3HYy0D.jpg)

Nice looking system you have.

My system/cooling setup is as follow; MSI X570 Gaming Edge Wifi with 3900x, sx 120mm fans on the front, watercooler ML240L RGB on the front with 2 fans 120mm (so total 5 fans on the front)....and 1x 140mm fans at the back.
When I start the system it is around 37-40C, after 30 mins it swings the whole day from 45-70C, even when i'm doijng nothing with it.
Do you also have this? .......it could be programs on the back, such as iCue, Afterburner, Nvidia software, etc, which is generating these swings in temps. (i will try to set all of by my next restart to see if i can keep my temps around ~45C in idle)
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: fmatiasii on 23-September-19, 07:58:25
My cpu temps ranges from mid 30's to 50's depending on my activity but idle temps are usually from mid 30's to 40's.  I was able to lower my temps down to low 30's when i adjusted the cpu core voltage to only 1.25v.
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: [dev] on 23-September-19, 14:04:24
3600X with MEG X570 ACE BIOS v 1.5 ABBA

Everything stock even cpu cooler
idle 38 C with spikes to 50 C with room temp 24 C

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Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: [dev] on 23-September-19, 14:20:39
3600X with MEG X570 ACE BIOS v 1.5 ABBA

Everything stock even cpu cooler
idle 38 C with spikes to 50 C with room temp 24 C

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Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: oatkk.th on 24-September-19, 13:29:52
still waiting.
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: veganfanatic on 24-September-19, 23:41:08
a BIOS surfaces with Live Update so its out of beta

no change on my R5 2400GF working on my X570 yet
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: renzov on 25-September-19, 11:59:29
My cpu temps ranges from mid 30's to 50's depending on my activity but idle temps are usually from mid 30's to 40's. I was able to lower my temps down to low 30's when i adjusted the cpu core voltage to only 1.25v.

Just see that another beta bios is available for my build, MSI X570 Gaming Edge Wifi.....151 (http://msi-ftp.de:8080/main.html?download&weblink=00ea1e23fd0bafb18c7772e2d486f5af&realfilename=7C37_151.zip)
I will give it a try later today....hopefully boost go up to 4600MHz now.
Also still playing with my fan speed to balance the air flow and keep more control of the temps.....
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: mark.delzer on 25-September-19, 22:25:52
Not sure what I am missing here.  Updated my x570-a Pro to abba today and now it's locked at 3.8 GHz unless I use Ryzen Master to boost.  Before update was boosting to ~4.3 GHz without RM.  After updating to abba I loaded the optimized defaults, turned on XMP and turned off Cool-n-Quiet.  I also made sure Windows is set to use the AMD Ryzen High Performance power plan.  Not sure why it will not go over a CPU multiplier of 38 even when stress testing unless I use RM. In the past gaming would push the peak core clocks up but not now.  I can manually overclock to 4.4 GHz but wanted to let the system manage as before. Feel I am missing something simple here.

Edit add: Thanks montyac guess I will revert and wait.  Also I see the same locked 3.8 GHz when the PC is idle.
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: montyac on 25-September-19, 22:34:12
Revert back to the previous BIOS if you were not having any problems with it. Wait for a better released BIOS.
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: renzov on 26-September-19, 09:36:21
Finally managed to get the 4600MHz on my X570 Gaming Edge Wifi / 3900X.......and most important i was able to get the cooling under control....,,,and almost no noise anymore (still working this)
And look at the VRMOS temps.....a lot of people are complaining as these hit the 90C or even above........even some reviewers highlighted this in youtube video's, but as you see very acceptable temps overall now...
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: Freeman79 on 26-September-19, 16:42:04
Finally managed to get the 4600MHz on my X570 Gaming Edge Wifi / 3900X.......and most important i was able to get the cooling under control....,,,and almost no noise anymore (still working this)
And look at the VRMOS temps.....a lot of people are complaining as these hit the 90C or even above........even some reviewers highlighted this in youtube video's, but as you see very acceptable temps overall now...
what cooling solution du you use? And how have you mounted your fans?
As I have the Same board, same CPU and have much much higher temps. especially with Bios 1.51 and "stable" 1.40 I'm back on beta 1.41 atm
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: renzov on 26-September-19, 21:57:26
what cooling solution du you use? And how have you mounted your fans? As I have the Same board, same CPU and have much much higher temps. especially with Bios 1.51 and "stable" 1.40 I'm back on beta 1.41 atm

I have the Coolermaster Masterbox Lite 5 RGB case. 3 fans on the front pushing the air into the case. Due to the front panel this is not optimal at all.
As CPU cooler I use the promotion cooler 'Coolermaster ML240L RGB'. This one is also installed on the front including 2 fans as pull.
At the back 1 Fan for pushing the air outside the case.

I use the .151 beta bios......Bios is default except I have XMP on for my mem, set CSM instead of UEFI and turned off Cool-n-Quiet.
I also adjusted the fan speeds in the bios, but cannot state out of my head what the settings are....
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: peetweb on 27-September-19, 09:14:24
When can we expect a new, fixed, version of the ABBA Bios for the B450 Tomahawk MAX please?
ALL of the new Bios versions including V33, but except V30 and V31, are having PCIe Problems, ie blackscreen and/or artifacts on Boot and uninstalling and recovering Nvidia driver etc.
Just tested all versions incl. V33 and that is a buggy mess in that regard too.
Whatever you guys did from V31 on, it was breaking something.
Funny enough, there is a guy out there called "The Stillt", on reddit etc, that is modding your bios to a better state than you released them. Iam obviously not installing them myself, because of safety concerns, but alot of people wrote on reddit that its basically a V33 Bios with no Bugs. He also did a V30 or V31 Bios with ABBA added.

System is:
MSI B450 Tomahawk MAX
AMD R7 3700x
8GB Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 2666mhz
Palit GTX 1070 Jetstream
Kingston SSD 250GB for Windows and a Samsung 850 evo 500GB extra
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: Nichrome on 27-September-19, 22:46:46
B450 Tomahawk and B450 Tomahawk MAX blank screen after waking up from Sleep mode.

Solution in BETA versions:

B450 Tomahawk MAX  (E7C02AMS.341 beta) = https://drive.google.com/open?id=1-Sy1Z60MOaM9VLg3ZjOGE69t1Yyn0gf9

B450 Tomahawk   (E7C02AMS.1C2 beta) = https://drive.google.com/open?id=19gAklMFjCrK_GYtSd1zfvYCioWbYeafx
It was fixed in BETA as soon as MSI discovered the issue
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: fmatiasii on 28-September-19, 06:16:14
Finally managed to get the 4600MHz on my X570 Gaming Edge Wifi / 3900X.......and most important i was able to get the cooling under control....,,,and almost no noise anymore (still working this)
And look at the VRMOS temps.....a lot of people are complaining as these hit the 90C or even above........even some reviewers highlighted this in youtube video's, but as you see very acceptable temps overall now...


That's great, finally you got it.

Here's mine, it was able to get a bit higher compared to the last one.
(https://i.imgur.com/FvNq6yn.jpg)
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: renzov on 28-September-19, 23:26:57
Nice score and understand that you have the 3900X....but which MB? and what are your setting to reach out to this performance....anything special in the bios or windows?
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: fmatiasii on 29-September-19, 03:49:51
Nice score and understand that you have the 3900X....but which MB? and what are your setting to reach out to this performance....anything special in the bios or windows?


My MB is the X570 Meg godlike and the bios is updated to the latest version (ABBA) and running at windows 10 pro 1903, and like i said in my previous post that this is the default settings with no overclocking. 
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: renzov on 29-September-19, 09:57:47
I cannot find anywhere that you stated it was defaults setting, but nevermind.....
OK, but comparing X570 MPG Gaming Edge Wifi vs. X570 MEG Godlike is a no go......a 200 euro MB vs a 700 euro MB......it's comparing apples with peers....
Only with one Beta bios (.141) I was able to hit 4625MHz......but by loading other bios i could never replicate that anymore.....even also not when im reload .141 on my MB
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: peetweb on 29-September-19, 22:57:49
B450 Tomahawk and B450 Tomahawk MAX blank screen after waking up from Sleep mode.

Solution in BETA versions:

B450 Tomahawk MAX  (E7C02AMS.341 beta) = https://drive.google.com/open?id=1-Sy1Z60MOaM9VLg3ZjOGE69t1Yyn0gf9

B450 Tomahawk   (E7C02AMS.1C2 beta) = https://drive.google.com/open?id=19gAklMFjCrK_GYtSd1zfvYCioWbYeafx
It was fixed in BETA as soon as MSI discovered the issue

Thank you very much.
I've tested some time and it seems to be a good bios. Its a little more unstable on the memory overclocking side than other bios before it seems. At least on the ram i use.
While i could overclock my 2666mhz ram to 3000mhz no problem on other bioses, this now seems to need more voltage than before to get it stable.
Otherwhise, no cold booting issues anymore and the nvidia driver doesnt crash. Big thumbs up from me guys.
My 3700x is not a great manual overclocker, it needs 1.45 volts to get all core 4.3ghz, but it seems that, at least in spikes that get picked up by hwmonitor, it can reach 4399mhz on 6 of the 8 cores now.
Well done, i would say, you are on a good way. Just a little optimizing on the stability and you are there.
Just ordered me some 15-15-15-35 3600mhz Gskill Ram to speed up some thinks *wink wink*.
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: peetweb on 30-September-19, 02:06:42
it can reach 4399mhz on 6 of the 8 cores now.

I have to correct myself. Its 2 cores hitting 4399mhz, and 4 cores hit like ~4350ish.
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: elvarliiv on 02-October-19, 10:38:57
Hello.

I updated my B450 GAMING PRO CARBON AC to newest BIOS (7B85v1A) and when I started the computer it went to windows login page and after logging in like in 5 seconds it hit the famous blue screen with the text starting "your pc ran into a problem and needs restart. ..." Restart of course didn't help. So what I did, I reinstalled the older BIOS (7B85v19) back and everything works fine. Is this known problem? I got 3900x as CPU.
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: dinosrk on 02-October-19, 12:11:03
Hello.

I updated my B450 GAMING PRO CARBON AC to newest BIOS (7B85v1A) and when I started the computer it went to windows login page and after logging in like in 5 seconds it hit the famous blue screen with the text starting "your pc ran into a problem and needs restart. ..." Restart of course didn't help. So what I did, I reinstalled the older BIOS (7B85v19) back and everything works fine. Is this known problem? I got 3900x as CPU.

Hi, my B450 GPC + 7B85v1A + 3700X is working fine! Have no issues so far. br dino
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: fmatiasii on 02-October-19, 14:36:15
Surprisingly when I used ryzen master's default setting, this was the result:

(https://i.imgur.com/USUV98l.jpg)
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: mariusfleetwood on 02-October-19, 19:44:30
BIOS update is not recommended unless your system is NOT working properly.
Ref: https://bbs.nga.cn/read.php?tid=18512047&_fp=2&rand=864 (https://bbs.nga.cn/read.php?tid=18512047&_fp=2&rand=864)

X570 BIOS AGESA 1.0.0.3ABBA
Caution!!
1. Better download the latest AMD tool (Ryzen Master) from AMD website for verification
2. This BIOS does not affect DRAM overclocking much but memory may become a little bit more unstable above 4600Mhz (MICRON)
3. You may try disabling GearDownMode to have better performance if using HYNIX single side die
4. Might not observe significant change if CPU cooler is not powerful enough (Stock Cooler)

Note.
CPPC (Collaborative Power And Performance Control) - Work with Ryzen 3000 + X570 only!!
Auto/Enable -> System would have better performance but CPU frequency will not drop during idle (use windows 10 with update after MAY + Cinebench R15)
Disable -> CPU frequency will drop to save energy during idle
Location in BIOS
(http://www.coolaler.com.tw/toppc/X570/CPAP.PNG)
Auto/Enable - 2176cb
(http://www.coolaler.com.tw/toppc/X570/CPAPON.PNG)
Disable (drop to 2.2G) - 2163cb
(http://www.coolaler.com.tw/toppc/X570/CPAPOFF.PNG)

CPU frequency optimization
3800X - 4550Mhz
(http://www.coolaler.com.tw/toppc/X570/3800X.PNG)
3900X - 4625MHz
(http://www.coolaler.com.tw/toppc/X570/3900X.PNG)

MEG X570 GODLIKE  1.0.0.3 ABBA 7C34AMS.151
[NA]

MEG X570 ACE 1.0.0.3 ABBA 7C35AMS.151
[NA]

PRESTIGE X570 CREATION 1.0.0.3 ABBA 7C36AMS.141
[NA]

MPG X570 GAMING EDGE WIFI 1.0.0.3 ABBA 7C37AMS.141
[NA]

MPG X570 GAMING PLUS 1.0.0.3 ABBA 7C37AMS.A41
[NA]

X570-A PRO 1.0.0.3 ABBA 7C37AMS.H41
[NA]

MPG X570 GAMING PRO CARBON WIFI 1.0.0.3 ABBA 7B93AMS.131
[NA]

400s BIOS AGESA 1.0.0.3 AB
Note.
1. 1.0.0.3 AB reserves PCI-E 4.0 feature
2. OC optimization with Ryzen 3000 CPU

X470 GAMING PRO CARBON 1.0.0.3 AB 7B78AMS.2B1
[http://www.coolaler.com.tw/toppc/BIOS update/4XX/X470 GAMING PRO CARBON-2B1.rar (http://www.coolaler.com.tw/toppc/BIOS update/4XX/X470 GAMING PRO CARBON-2B1.rar)]

X470 GAMING PRO CARBON AC 1.0.0.3 AB 7B78AMS.1B2
http://www.coolaler.com.tw/toppc/BIOS update/4XX/X470 GAMING PRO CARBON AC-1B2.rar (http://www.coolaler.com.tw/toppc/BIOS update/4XX/X470 GAMING PRO CARBON AC-1B2.rar)]

X470 GAMING M7 AC 1.0.0.3 AB 7B77AMS.1B2
[http://www.coolaler.com.tw/toppc/BIOS update/4XX/X470 GAMING M7 AC-1B2.rar (http://www.coolaler.com.tw/toppc/BIOS update/4XX/X470 GAMING M7 AC-1B2.rar)]

B450-A PRO 1.0.0.3 AB 7B86AMS.AA2
[http://www.coolaler.com.tw/toppc/BIOS update/4XX/B450-A PRO-AA2.rar (http://www.coolaler.com.tw/toppc/BIOS update/4XX/B450-A PRO-AA2.rar)]

B450 GAMING PLUS 1.0.0.3 AB 7B86AMS.1B2
[http://www.coolaler.com.tw/toppc/BIOS update/4XX/B450 GAMING PLUS-1B2.rar (http://www.coolaler.com.tw/toppc/BIOS update/4XX/B450 GAMING PLUS-1B2.rar)]

B450M GAMING PLUS 1.0.0.3 AB 7B87AMS.194
[http://www.coolaler.com.tw/toppc/BIOS update/4XX/B450M GAMING PLUS-194.rar (http://www.coolaler.com.tw/toppc/BIOS update/4XX/B450M GAMING PLUS-194.rar)]

B450M MORTAR 1.0.0.3 AB 7B89AMS.1A3
[http://www.coolaler.com.tw/toppc/BIOS update/4XX/B450M MORTAR-1A3.rar (http://www.coolaler.com.tw/toppc/BIOS update/4XX/B450M MORTAR-1A3.rar)]

B450M MORTAR TITANIUM 1.0.0.3 AB 7B89AMS.A92
[http://www.coolaler.com.tw/toppc/BIOS update/4XX/B450M MORTAR TITANIUM-A92.rar (http://www.coolaler.com.tw/toppc/BIOS update/4XX/B450M MORTAR TITANIUM-A92.rar)]

B450M BAZOOKA PLUS 1.0.0.3 AB 7B90AMS.192
[http://www.coolaler.com.tw/toppc/BIOS update/4XX/B450M BAZOOKA PLUS-192.rar (http://www.coolaler.com.tw/toppc/BIOS update/4XX/B450M BAZOOKA PLUS-192.rar)]

B450I GAMING PLUS AC 1.0.0.3 AB 7A40AMS.A91
[http://www.coolaler.com.tw/toppc/BIOS update/4XX/B450I GAMING PLUS AC-A91.rar (http://www.coolaler.com.tw/toppc/BIOS update/4XX/B450I GAMING PLUS AC-A91.rar)]

B450 TOMAHAWK 1.0.0.3 AB 7C02AMS.1B4
[http://www.coolaler.com.tw/toppc/BIOS update/4XX/B450 TOMAHAWK-1B4.rar (http://www.coolaler.com.tw/toppc/BIOS update/4XX/B450 TOMAHAWK-1B4.rar)]

B450 GAMING PRO CARBON AC 1.0.0.3 AB 7B85AMS.193
[http://www.coolaler.com.tw/toppc/BIOS update/4XX/B450 GAMING PRO CARBON AC-193.rar (http://www.coolaler.com.tw/toppc/BIOS update/4XX/B450 GAMING PRO CARBON AC-193.rar)]

B450M PRO-VDH 1.0.0.3 AB 7A38AMS.M91
[http://www.coolaler.com.tw/toppc/BIOS update/4XX/B450M PRO-VDH-M91.rar (http://www.coolaler.com.tw/toppc/BIOS update/4XX/B450M PRO-VDH-M91.rar)]

B450M PRO-VDH V2 1.0.0.3 AB 7A38AMS.881
[http://www.coolaler.com.tw/toppc/BIOS update/4XX/B450M PRO-VDH V2-881.rar (http://www.coolaler.com.tw/toppc/BIOS update/4XX/B450M PRO-VDH V2-881.rar)]

B450M PRO-VDH PLUS 1.0.0.3 AB 7A38AMS.962
[http://www.coolaler.com.tw/toppc/BIOS update/4XX/B450M PRO-VDH PLUS-962.rar (http://www.coolaler.com.tw/toppc/BIOS update/4XX/B450M PRO-VDH PLUS-962.rar)]

B450M BAZOOKA 1.0.0.3 AB 7A38AMS.H92
[http://www.coolaler.com.tw/toppc/BIOS update/4XX/B450M BAZOOKA-H92.rar (http://www.coolaler.com.tw/toppc/BIOS update/4XX/B450M BAZOOKA-H92.rar)]

B450M BAZOOKA V2 1.0.0.3 AB 7A38AMS.P71
[http://www.coolaler.com.tw/toppc/BIOS update/4XX/B450M BAZOOKA V2-P71.rar (http://www.coolaler.com.tw/toppc/BIOS update/4XX/B450M BAZOOKA V2-P71.rar)]

X470 GAMING PLUS 1.0.0.3 AB 7B79AMS.AE1
[http://www.coolaler.com.tw/toppc/BIOS update/4XX/X470 GAMING PLUS-AE1.rar (http://www.coolaler.com.tw/toppc/BIOS update/4XX/X470 GAMING PLUS-AE1.rar)]

X470 GAMING PRO 1.0.0.3 AB 7B79AMS.1C1
[http://www.coolaler.com.tw/toppc/BIOS update/4XX/X470 GAMING PRO-1C1.rar (http://www.coolaler.com.tw/toppc/BIOS update/4XX/X470 GAMING PRO-1C1.rar)]

B450M PRO-M2 1.0.0.3 AB 7B84AMS.2A2
[http://www.coolaler.com.tw/toppc/BIOS update/4XX/B450M PRO-M2-2A2.rar (http://www.coolaler.com.tw/toppc/BIOS update/4XX/B450M PRO-M2-2A2.rar)]
 
B450M PRO-M2 V2 1.0.0.3 AB 7B84AMS.462
[http://www.coolaler.com.tw/toppc/BIOS update/4XX/B450M PRO-M2 V2-462.rar (http://www.coolaler.com.tw/toppc/BIOS update/4XX/B450M PRO-M2 V2-462.rar)]

B450M MORTAR MAX 1.0.0.3 ABBA 7C34AMS.151
[NA]

B450 TOMAHAWK MAX 1.0.0.3 ABBA 7C02AMS.332
[NA]

B450M PRO-VDH MAX 1.0.0.3 ABBA 7A38AMS.B21
[NA]

B450-A PRO MAX 1.0.0.3 ABBA 7B86AMS.M31
[NA]

B450 GAMING PLUS MAX 1.0.0.3 ABBA 7B86AMS.H31
[NA]

B450M-A PRO MAX 1.0.0.3 ABBA 7C52AMS.311
[NA]
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: renzov on 02-October-19, 21:59:43
Surprisingly when I used ryzen master's default setting, this was the result: (https://i.imgur.com/USUV98l.jpg)

it looks like that i also have some nice win-win's with the latest Beta (.151) on my X570 Gaming Edge Wifi with 3900x......hitting 4650MHz.
Also the temps are kept very low including the VRMOS temps which are always deeply discussed as high and unacceptable on the Edge Wifi........
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: Freeman79 on 02-October-19, 22:28:07
it looks like that i also have some nice win-win's with the latest Beta (.151) on my X570 Gaming Edge Wifi with 3900x......hitting 4650MHz.
Also the temps are kept very low including the VRMOS temps which are always deeply discussed as high and unacceptable on the Edge Wifi........
Did you change any bios settings or what options did you set in your bios?
I only saw the 4.6Ghz when using bios version .141 I wasn't able to see it on .140 nor .151, yet.
Nevertheless I also have the lowest temperatures with .151, too.
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: renzov on 02-October-19, 23:38:30
Did you change any bios settings or what options did you set in your bios? I only saw the 4.6Ghz when using bios version .141 I wasn't able to see it on .140 nor .151, yet. Nevertheless I also have the lowest temperatures with .151, too.

I reset Dragon Center, Ryzen Master and bios.
after that i turn on XMP, UEFI, and tweakt a bit the fan speeds.......I cannot remember i touched anything else......i did play a bit with Cool 'n Queit but put that back to standard settings after.
And now the nice thing of the story comes.......
I was away the wole day, my wife turned on the computer and used it somewhere during the day. After she kept it turned on, but was not using it at all.
When i tonight stept behind the pc and did some temps checks i saw that my boost went up to 4650MHz.
Did she do anythong special today I do not know......
But i have the feeling that when the PC is in idle and not used the boost speed go much higher then you do something with the pc.
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: Freeman79 on 03-October-19, 15:30:08
hope another v15* build drops soon.
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: sorokin.kv on 04-October-19, 18:46:23
Why I can not download BETA BIOS 1.0. 0.3 AB 7B79AMS.AE1 for my X470 GAMING PLUS?
Please give me the opportunity to download it. :help:
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: Freeman79 on 04-October-19, 21:09:19
Why I can not download BETA BIOS 1.0. 0.3 AB 7B79AMS.AE1 for my X470 GAMING PLUS?
Please give me the opportunity to download it. :help:
you can find a mod of that bios here: https://www.overclock.net/forum/11-amd-motherboards/1733304-agesa-fw-stack-patched-bioses-3rd-gen.html
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: dirtskater on 06-October-19, 14:30:26
I dont know if I'm in the right thread here but I registered just to tell everyone this:

Until yesterday I used 7C37vA1 or 7C37vA2 for my MSI MPG X570 Gaming Plus + 3700x and I managed to get my Ballistix Sport LT 3000MHZ to 3433MhZ using the DRAM Calculator for Ryzen. My HDD broke and it took me ages to find the problem so I updated my BIOS to 7C37vA4 (1.0.0.3abba) as part of the process. After this my overclock did not work anymore. I couldnt even get the XMP Profile to work, it just said Overclock failed and so it stayed at 2400Mhz.

Now I flashed back a version to 7C37vA3 and my 3466 overclock still doesnt work anymore but atleast the 3000 XMP profile does.

So in case anyone has the same problem, you're not alone. Guess Ill stick to this for now..
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: Freeman79 on 06-October-19, 18:30:56
I dont know if I'm in the right thread here but I registered just to tell everyone this:

Until yesterday I used 7C37vA1 or 7C37vA2 for my MSI MPG X570 Gaming Plus + 3700x and I managed to get my Ballistix Sport LT 3000MHZ to 3433MhZ using the DRAM Calculator for Ryzen. My HDD broke and it took me ages to find the problem so I updated my BIOS to 7C37vA4 (1.0.0.3abba) as part of the process. After this my overclock did not work anymore. I couldnt even get the XMP Profile to work, it just said Overclock failed and so it stayed at 2400Mhz.

Now I flashed back a version to 7C37vA3 and my 3466 overclock still doesnt work anymore but atleast the 3000 XMP profile does.

So in case anyone has the same problem, you're not alone. Guess Ill stick to this for now..
Not sure about the bios version numbers of your board, but I have the same with the .151 beta  version for my gaming edge RAM OC doesn't work properly anymore with that latest beta version.
Last version I could OC my ram properly was the beta .141 - even stable v14 didn't let me to use my common RAM Oc
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: dirtskater on 06-October-19, 19:03:57
Not sure about the bios version numbers of your board, but I have the same with the .151 beta  version for my gaming edge RAM OC doesn't work properly anymore with that latest beta version.
Last version I could OC my ram properly was the beta .141 - even stable v14 didn't let me to use my common RAM Oc

This is the BIOS page of my board..  (https://de.msi.com/Motherboard/support/MPG-X570-GAMING-PLUS)talking about the latest and second latest version listed here that break my OC settings. Also I noticed, my CPU fan is now louder in idle than it was before. This all is quite upsetting.
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: foxika69 on 06-October-19, 19:12:53
I have a problem with B450 Tomahawk MAX...
My PC never shutdown after i hit shutdown button in windows :-|

why? :/ i tired the newest beta bios v341 but the same issue :/
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: dirtskater on 06-October-19, 19:40:30
I have a problem with B450 Tomahawk MAX...
My PC never shutdown after i hit shutdown button in windows :-|

why? :/ i tired the newest beta bios v341 but the same issue :/
This is where it all started for me.. I think its a problem with the latest windows update.
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: Freeman79 on 08-October-19, 10:17:48
So what's the deal with that .152 beta bios for the MPG X570 GAMING EDGE WIFI ?
It seems it has AGESA 1.0.0.4 and SMU-Firmware 46.53.00 but no new microcode.
What does that mean?
You think there is anything to test without new microcode, is it just something to get MSI in the news feeds ?
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: renzov on 08-October-19, 11:17:55
So what's the deal with that .152 beta bios for the MPG X570 GAMING EDGE WIFI ? It seems it has AGESA 1.0.0.4 and SMU-Firmware 46.53.00 but no new microcode. What does that mean? You think there is anything to test without new microcode, is it just something to get MSI in the news feeds ?

Did you treid it?

Along with 100+ fixes this was posted on Guru3D ...."The boost adjustments invoke the timing of Precision Boost 2 and Precision Boost Overdrive (PBO). And as noted there will be be improvements to CCX overclocking, ie the ability to use tools, for individual CPU core complexes tweaks."
But the MSI slide.... https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/over-100-improvements-to-be-included-in-upcoming-amd-ryzen-3000-agesa-1-4.html has been critizied as follow 'The MSI slide, however, is a marketing slide and as they always do, they love hype and virals - since the info already was labeled wrongly in the presentation dubbed 'fixes', I call it pure marketing from the EU team, I would not hold my breath on the accuracy on that one.'
https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/agesa-1-4-to-be-released-alongside-ryzen-9-3950x.html
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: renzov on 08-October-19, 13:59:19
So what's the deal with that .152 beta bios for the MPG X570 GAMING EDGE WIFI ? It seems it has AGESA 1.0.0.4 and SMU-Firmware 46.53.00 but no new microcode. What does that mean? You think there is anything to test without new microcode, is it just something to get MSI in the news feeds ?

I just tried it, but see no improvements compared to .151 ......I even believe .151 performe better.
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: jere.cosita88 on 10-October-19, 13:47:49
1.0.0.4???
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: Febonacci on 13-October-19, 21:09:50
To be clear,
If I'm assembling 3600x with B450M MORTAR MAX board, do I need to update bios or should I stick with the one it got from factory?
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: Nichrome on 13-October-19, 22:24:35
To be clear,
If I'm assembling 3600x with B450M MORTAR MAX board, do I need to update bios or should I stick with the one it got from factory?
One from factory is sufficient to run 3600X, but to be on safe side, update the BIOS. Until AMD gets their AGESA right, BIOS updates will keep coming.
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: andydoucet on 14-October-19, 17:24:40
The links seem to be dead in the original thread topic.
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: plutomate on 17-October-19, 03:02:06
ABBA bios is available on product page now fyi
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: jere.cosita88 on 19-October-19, 23:46:03
Any news from AGESA 1.0.0.4?
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: Freeman79 on 20-October-19, 09:02:38
Any news from AGESA 1.0.0.4?


No. nothing. And it might be a good decision to not release any beta until it's tested enough.
We don't want drama like there was with that .152 beta, again.
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: Nichrome on 20-October-19, 15:47:53
Any news from AGESA 1.0.0.4?

See >>How to contact MSI.<< (https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=107326.0)

No. nothing. And it might be a good decision to not release any beta until it's tested enough.
We don't want drama like there was with that .152 beta, again.
Exactly :yes:
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: jere.cosita88 on 20-October-19, 17:02:25
No. nothing. And it might be a good decision to not release any beta until it's tested enough.
We don't want drama like there was with that .152 beta, again.
Correct
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: Freeman79 on 25-October-19, 16:38:40
X570 BIOS AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B
https://www.msi.com/blog/amd-combo-pi-1004-bios-update (https://www.msi.com/blog/amd-combo-pi-1004-bios-update)

MEG X570 GODLIKE  1.0.0.4 Patch B 7C34AMS.1XX
Download (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_uVZTOiqaPz-LYmkClH9VEvZiZRYWjf6/view?usp=sharing)

MEG X570 ACE 1.0.0.4 Patch B 7C35AMS.1XX
Download (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1OZcvxsABmo_-6i3k1rXIzk9_UJyTIg8b/view?usp=sharing)

PRESTIGE X570 CREATION 1.0.0.4 Patch B 7C36AMS.1XX
Download (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1j7OObGDwEFga7sfvcsVKr_NCMrkhk3hI/view?usp=sharing)

MPG X570 GAMING EDGE WIFI 1.0.0.4 Patch B 7C37AMS.1XX
Download (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZytRpcPE3dxFQ8jgMgyi-D_iSdtzUpr-/view?usp=sharing)

MPG X570 GAMING PLUS 1.0.0.4 Patch B 7C37AMS.AXX
Download (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Hio8A4zfkE7Sv9l2Dwt9Zwftgzehc-l7/view?usp=sharing)

X570-A PRO 1.0.0.4 Patch B 7C37AMS.HXX
Download (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fz5P3CfR40v2UuwbRSltrSstFScx_-es/view?usp=sharing)

MPG X570 GAMING PRO CARBON WIFI 1.0.0.4 Patch B 7B93AMS.1XX
Download (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wTM6PmC49dZe8zpzTjzpFGbKO1RO5qK5/view?usp=sharing)

MPG X570 UNIFY 1.0.0.4 Patch B 7C35AMS.AXX
Download (https://drive.google.com/file/d/137Vag4kubjgSfqJHMsLBwnEBHcVqgX1k/view?usp=sharing)

X570 BIOS AGESA 1.0.0.3ABBA
Caution!!
1. Better download the latest AMD tool (Ryzen Master) from AMD website for verification
2. This BIOS does not affect DRAM overclocking much but memory may become a little bit more unstable above 4600Mhz (MICRON)
3. You may try disabling GearDownMode to have better performance if using HYNIX single side die
4. Might not observe significant change if CPU cooler is not powerful enough (Stock Cooler)

Note.
CPPC (Collaborative Power And Performance Control) - Work with Ryzen 3000 + X570 only!!
Auto/Enable -> System would have better performance but CPU frequency will not drop during idle (use windows 10 with update after MAY + Cinebench R15)
Disable -> CPU frequency will drop to save energy during idle
Location in BIOS
(http://www.coolaler.com.tw/toppc/X570/CPAP.PNG)
Auto/Enable - 2176cb
(http://www.coolaler.com.tw/toppc/X570/CPAPON.PNG)
Disable (drop to 2.2G) - 2163cb
(http://www.coolaler.com.tw/toppc/X570/CPAPOFF.PNG)

CPU frequency optimization
3800X - 4550Mhz
(http://www.coolaler.com.tw/toppc/X570/3800X.PNG)
3900X - 4625MHz
(http://www.coolaler.com.tw/toppc/X570/3900X.PNG)

Thanks Leonard.
I wonder if you have any more Infos about the new Settings in those new Versions?
Is SMU Version v46.54 already included in those Versions?
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: jere.cosita88 on 26-October-19, 10:26:46
Yes.
https://www.msi.com/blog/amd-combo-pi-1004-bios-update
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: Freeman79 on 26-October-19, 13:07:47
Yes.
https://www.msi.com/blog/amd-combo-pi-1004-bios-update

That's not the Info I'm looking for. Although the blog post speaks about the "final" version and not this Test/Alpha/Beta-Version posted here.
Cos of This, I doubt everything that is spoken about in the blog post is in this test version. Nevertheless I found plenty of new options in the Bios I would like to get explained. also the fact that there still isn't a unified overclocking Menu.

+ The Screenshots and the Info given in the OP are from an .146 Version, and with the new .153 Testversion wie got at least 2 Options for the CPPC in the Bios.

What's things like...
- CPU Ratio Apply Mode (CPU or CCX)
- VDDG CCD/IOD Voltage Control Mode (Async or Sync + manual adjustment)
- PBO Max Offset Voltage (-0.1v max)
- Indirect Branch Prediction Speculation
... all about ?

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EHywm0RXUAA8tJk.jpg:large)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EHywm0RXUAA8tJk.jpg:large)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EHywm0ZX4AAynTM.jpg:large)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EHywm0bX0AAbroB.jpg:large)
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: jamin280672 on 27-October-19, 09:54:49
That's not the Info I'm looking for. Although the blog post speaks about the "final" version and not this Test/Alpha/Beta-Version posted here.
Cos of This, I doubt everything that is spoken about in the blog post is in this test version. Nevertheless I found plenty of new options in the Bios I would like to get explained. also the fact that there still isn't a unified overclocking Menu.

+ The Screenshots and the Info given in the OP are from an .146 Version, and with the new .153 Testversion wie got at least 2 Options for the CPPC in the Bios.

What's things like...
- CPU Ratio Apply Mode (CPU or CCX)
- VDDG CCD/IOD Voltage Control Mode (Async or Sync + manual adjustment)
- PBO Max Offset Voltage (-0.1v max)
- Indirect Branch Prediction Speculation
... all about ?

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EHywm0RXUAA8tJk.jpg:large)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EHywm0RXUAA8tJk.jpg:large)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EHywm0ZX4AAynTM.jpg:large)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EHywm0bX0AAbroB.jpg:large)


Google is your friend.......https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/dnbil5/per_ccx_overclocking_is_coming/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/dnbil5/per_ccx_overclocking_is_coming/)

How have you got a 3950x but dont know this stuff ?
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: oatkk.th on 29-October-19, 09:11:52
:agrees:
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: jere.cosita88 on 29-October-19, 19:50:55
Hi
I user of ACE in beta 1.0.0.4 no sound with overcloking.
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: Ingmarr on 29-October-19, 23:53:58
I really hope that the new bios will fix my issues on B450 Tomahawk Max motherboard.

1. Random PC reboots. Kernel-Power 41 BugcheckCode 278 error in the Event Viewer. I have to have "ErP Ready" enabled and bios on "UEFI" mode to stop this from happening.
2. Everyday my PC feels like a "ticking bomb". I'm waiting for nvlddmkm driver crash while GPU is running at PCI-E x16 3.0. After the crash GPU changes to PCI-E x8 3.0 and then PC is stable for the rest of the day.

I've tried all BIOS versions including E7C02AMS.341 beta posted here. I even replaced PSU and RAM thinking it could be the problem. No luck. It could be the GPU but I think it's less likely because a lot of people have similar issues to mine. Unfortunately I don't have another GPU to make sure.

PC:
MSI B450 Tomahawk Max
MSI GTX 780 Ti
AMD Ryzen 5 3600
HyperX 16GB 3200MHz Predator Black CL16 (2x8GB)
Seasonic Focus Plus 750W 80 Plus Gold
Kingston SV300S37A 120GB SSD (Windows 10 x64 Pro 1903)
WD Green WD10EZRX 1TB HDD
BenQ XL2411Z
Razer BlackWidow Ultimate
Zowie FK1
Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Surround 5.1 Pro

edit: Why is my post grey? 
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: a.sanns on 30-October-19, 08:22:58
I updated my MSI X570 Gaming Pro Carbon Wifi to 1.44 Beta, but my system took minutes to boot into bios screen or os (win10) when it booted into os, the system freezes very 3-4 seconds for 1 or 2 seconds. Had to use the bios flash button on my board to go back to 1.3
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: imwechs on 30-October-19, 16:52:54
X570 BIOS AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B
https://www.msi.com/blog/amd-combo-pi-1004-bios-update (https://www.msi.com/blog/amd-combo-pi-1004-bios-update)

MEG X570 GODLIKE  1.0.0.4 Patch B 7C34AMS.1XX
Download (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_uVZTOiqaPz-LYmkClH9VEvZiZRYWjf6/view?usp=sharing)

MEG X570 ACE 1.0.0.4 Patch B 7C35AMS.1XX
Download (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1OZcvxsABmo_-6i3k1rXIzk9_UJyTIg8b/view?usp=sharing)

PRESTIGE X570 CREATION 1.0.0.4 Patch B 7C36AMS.1XX
Download (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1j7OObGDwEFga7sfvcsVKr_NCMrkhk3hI/view?usp=sharing)

MPG X570 GAMING EDGE WIFI 1.0.0.4 Patch B 7C37AMS.1XX
Download (https://drive.google.com/file/d/14TxwRRaxCmIbs95NyrBeaLJGpwiAu5jE/view?usp=sharing)

MPG X570 GAMING PLUS 1.0.0.4 Patch B 7C37AMS.AXX
Download (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1H5vnBEfCkVBYHQU3js2DtmjjyyA_BQx1/view?usp=sharing)

X570-A PRO 1.0.0.4 Patch B 7C37AMS.HXX
Download (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-GImpK0RX7sNbPCdL3VfPW_86iEkUBAl/view?usp=sharing)

MPG X570 GAMING PRO CARBON WIFI 1.0.0.4 Patch B 7B93AMS.1XX
Download (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wTM6PmC49dZe8zpzTjzpFGbKO1RO5qK5/view?usp=sharing)

MEG X570 UNIFY 1.0.0.4 Patch B 7C35AMS.AXX
Download (https://drive.google.com/file/d/137Vag4kubjgSfqJHMsLBwnEBHcVqgX1k/view?usp=sharing)

400s MAX AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B
B450M PRO-VDH MAX 1.0.0.4 Patch B 7A38AMS.BXX
Download (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Ju9CVC7Nw_CWF16MZWkr9XFWu0eyQjyJ/view?usp=sharing)

X470 GAMING PLUS MAX 1.0.0.4 Patch B 7B79AMS.HXX
Download (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wP6R_OfRHlszOfvouFEQz4dYRydTERXK/view?usp=sharing)

X470 GAMING PRO MAX 1.0.0.4 Patch B 7B79AMS.MXX
Download (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1T3TLMBpe5INDlWlHgPHf6bt0nUaedZDZ/view?usp=sharing)

B450M PRO-M2 MAX 1.0.0.4 Patch B 7B84AMS.AXX
Download (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1PcsEg_BeCYgTo0Z_2qmLcrFtXHq-PFzZ/view?usp=sharing)

B450 GAMING PLUS MAX 1.0.0.4 Patch B 7B86AMS.HXX
Download (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TJbwVPOSiSoxhVvnMSJKX-hoDPrBoKRZ/view?usp=sharing)

B450-A PRO MAX 1.0.0.4 Patch B 7B86AMS.MXX
Download (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1j4sspxMMRielVXGmmKPakFgJAQZ8YF4T/view?usp=sharing)

B450M MORTAR MAX 1.0.0.4 Patch B 7B89AMS.2XX
Download (https://drive.google.com/file/d/18cIwXF_IiHKiJHKknkmlo6_LD0PWiRF_/view?usp=sharing)

B450 TOMAHAWK MAX 1.0.0.4 Patch B 7C02AMS.3XX
Download (https://drive.google.com/file/d/17tCZp8PuiE-l-COmrmWlzj_3He9z6d33/view?usp=sharing)

A320M-A PRO MAX 1.0.0.4 Patch B 7C52AMS.2XX
Download (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fkaStnsrJZc6--Iu72XA6lX_-SvTNIYJ/view?usp=sharing)

B450M-A PRO MAX 1.0.0.4 Patch B 7C52AMS.3XX
Download (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1AJkgiY6q5f0GY_oTmCqOuniU761MzJun/view?usp=sharing)

X570 BIOS AGESA 1.0.0.3ABBA
Caution!!
1. Better download the latest AMD tool (Ryzen Master) from AMD website for verification
2. This BIOS does not affect DRAM overclocking much but memory may become a little bit more unstable above 4600Mhz (MICRON)
3. You may try disabling GearDownMode to have better performance if using HYNIX single side die
4. Might not observe significant change if CPU cooler is not powerful enough (Stock Cooler)

Note.
CPPC (Collaborative Power And Performance Control) - Work with Ryzen 3000 + X570 only!!
Auto/Enable -> System would have better performance but CPU frequency will not drop during idle (use windows 10 with update after MAY + Cinebench R15)
Disable -> CPU frequency will drop to save energy during idle
Location in BIOS
(http://www.coolaler.com.tw/toppc/X570/CPAP.PNG)
Auto/Enable - 2176cb
(http://www.coolaler.com.tw/toppc/X570/CPAPON.PNG)
Disable (drop to 2.2G) - 2163cb
(http://www.coolaler.com.tw/toppc/X570/CPAPOFF.PNG)

CPU frequency optimization
3800X - 4550Mhz
(http://www.coolaler.com.tw/toppc/X570/3800X.PNG)
3900X - 4625MHz
(http://www.coolaler.com.tw/toppc/X570/3900X.PNG)

     I have the MSI MEG X570 ACE and I downloaded and properly installed the Agesa 1.0.0.4 B patch. It is quite unsuitable for use with any significant overlclock of cpu and memory. It would not post at my usual 4.2 GHZ and above all core overclocks that I had achieved on the earlier 1.% official bios. It did post at stock frequency for my 3900X. I would not recommend it in its current form. It is a beta bios even though MSI did not explicity say so. I reverted back to bios 1.5 and my performance and stability are far better. Wait for the official agesa update of bioses this one is not fit for the birds.
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: branden.bb on 01-November-19, 00:30:40
    I have the MSI MEG X570 ACE and I downloaded and properly installed the Agesa 1.0.0.4 B patch. It is quite unsuitable for use with any significant overlclock of cpu and memory. It would not post at my usual 4.2 GHZ and above all core overclocks that I had achieved on the earlier 1.% official bios. It did post at stock frequency for my 3900X. I would not recommend it in its current form. It is a beta bios even though MSI did not explicity say so. I reverted back to bios 1.5 and my performance and stability are far better. Wait for the official agesa update of bioses this one is not fit for the birds.
I'm having the exact same problem with my MSI x570 MPG gaming plus board; the RAM overclock I had which was perfectly stable on the old bios AMD ComboPI1.0.0.3a, with the 1.0.0.4 B patch, my computer will boot up once to windows with my RAM overclock working fine and system totally stable, but upon attempting to reboot or power down / back on, it won't restart and CMOS has to be cleared or disable memory overclock.
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: KenSasaki90 on 01-November-19, 02:37:50
Quote
Thank you very much.
I've tested some time and it seems to be a good bios. Its a little more unstable on the memory overclocking side than other bios before it seems. At least on the ram i use.
While i could overclock my 2666mhz ram to 3000mhz no problem on other bioses, this now seems to need more voltage than before to get it stable.
Otherwhise, no cold booting issues anymore and the nvidia driver doesnt crash. Big thumbs up from me guys.
My 3700x is not a great manual overclocker, it needs 1.45 volts to get all core 4.3ghz, but it seems that, at least in spikes that get picked up by hwmonitor, it can reach 4399mhz on 6 of the 8 cores now.
Well done, i would say, you are on a good way. Just a little optimizing on the stability and you are there.
Just ordered me some 15-15-15-35 3600mhz Gskill Ram to speed up some thinks *wink wink*.




You ask in a Forum Theard WHERE you get the ***.342 BETA BIOS for the Tomahawk Max for a solution for this board and ony tryd the v31 - v33 Bios?
And now you get a link to the 341 Beta WHEN YOU can download HERE on this THEARD the 342 with the new agesa?
I hope this is a troll. Sry but Rly??
Have you guys read what they give us to download here?
i, i cant believe this....
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: peetweb on 01-November-19, 16:16:50



You ask in a Forum Theard WHERE you get the ***.342 BETA BIOS for the Tomahawk Max for a solution for this board and ony tryd the v31 - v33 Bios?
And now you get a link to the 341 Beta WHEN YOU can download HERE on this THEARD the 342 with the new agesa?
I hope this is a troll. Sry but Rly??
Have you guys read what they give us to download here?
i, i cant believe this....

You are not even capable of using the "quote" function in this forum and you lack simple respect for other people. Plus you type like you are drunk or something.
The .342 Bios got released yesterday and my post is like weeks old.
Jeesus Christ man, check yourself.


And....@MSI
Are you guys kidding me? The Blackscreen Bug is back and now its not for coldboots only, but normal reboots too.
Fix your stuff pls! This is getting ridiculous.


B450 Tomahawk MAX
3700x
Newest Chipset and Nvidia Drivers as of today.
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: Nichrome on 01-November-19, 23:01:59
@peetweb & @KenSasaki90
Please put yourself together, and keep any disrespectful comments out of this forum.
>>Please read and comply with the Forum Rules.<< (https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=64858.0)
Thanks.

And....@MSI Are you guys kidding me? The Blackscreen Bug is back and now its not for coldboots only, but normal reboots too. Fix your stuff pls! This is getting ridiculous.
For direct contact with MSI, see >>How to contact MSI.<< (https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=107326.0)
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: KenSasaki90 on 03-November-19, 20:20:28
You are not even capable of using the "quote" function in this forum and you lack simple respect for other people. Plus you type like you are drunk or something. The .342 Bios got released yesterday and my post is like weeks old. Jeesus Christ man, check yourself. And....@MSI Are you guys kidding me? The Blackscreen Bug is back and now its not for coldboots only, but normal reboots too. Fix your stuff pls! This is getting ridiculous. B450 Tomahawk MAX 3700x Newest Chipset and Nvidia Drivers as of today.

I Did 2 Mistakes, yes
1. I used the Qoute Wrong
2. I didnt look at the date from the Post.

I saw that they postete the List and thought every post under this is new. Yes my fault and a MSI Fault. Why did they post NEW stuff on a old Theard. Why cant they open a new one -.-*
I say soory, next time i will watch better of the dates from the posts.

Btw, i use the Toma Max board with the new Bios and a ryzen 5 3600 and have 0 blackscreenproblems. Maybe reset cmos completete? (Unplug Power and battery) and test it again?
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: skyworxx on 03-November-19, 21:54:10
Any ETA on the B450I bios? It got the 1.0.0.3 beta bios last time around, but no love this time :(
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: Nichrome on 04-November-19, 00:36:22
Any ETA on the B450I bios? It got the 1.0.0.3 beta bios last time around, but no love this time :(
No ETAs given by MSI. It'll eventually get it.
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: veganfanatic on 04-November-19, 00:40:55
1.0.0.4 has let me use my R5 2400G. I would like more work on RAM so I do not have to manually overvolt it all the time to stabilize my box.
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: lonelobo on 04-November-19, 17:15:43
Did they remove the official 1.5 bios for the X570 creation? Cant find it anymore on the bios download page. Where there some unknown problems? I have been using the 155 version from this forum, and appart from the audio channel switch bug everything else seems fine. Can someone clear this up what happend, and is (was?) there a difference between this 155 version and the 'official' 1.5 (150) version?
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: peetweb on 04-November-19, 21:04:50
I Did 2 Mistakes, yes
1. I used the Qoute Wrong
2. I didnt look at the date from the Post.

I saw that they postete the List and thought every post under this is new. Yes my fault and a MSI Fault. Why did they post NEW stuff on a old Theard. Why cant they open a new one -.-*
I say soory, next time i will watch better of the dates from the posts.

Btw, i use the Toma Max board with the new Bios and a ryzen 5 3600 and have 0 blackscreenproblems. Maybe reset cmos completete? (Unplug Power and battery) and test it again?

I respect that! Lets say we both had a bad day and please accept my apologie aswell. I was kind of an ass there.

@MSI
Like i said, it looks like the latest non beta BIOS, v34, is as buggy as the last non beta bioses.

I have tested some time now and its even worst than i previously believed. I keep getting a flickering screen, which goes black for some seconds and it looks like the kind of blackscreen flicker when its trying to reinstall the GPU driver and also sometimes blackscreen when rebooting.
So basically, its the same blackscreen on boot (sort of) and reinstalling nvidia driver (sort of) bugs, all over again, except its not showing in the event notifer this time.

CPU Overclocking seems to be better though and i could finally overclock my FCLK without bluescreening on me as soon as i even went for only 1833mhz.

I will def go back to 341 beta though.

B450 Tomahawk MAX
GTX1070
R7 3700x
16gb Gskill 3600 cl15 (F4-3600C15D-16GTZ)
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: emorphien on 05-November-19, 04:44:20
Ugh I downloaded the BIOS for my X570 Gaming Edge WiFi (7C37v15 - Update AMD ComboPI1.0.0.4 Patch B (SMU v46.54)) and after the update it wouldn't boot in to the bios after waiting 5 minutes... just black screens.  

Back at 1.0.0.3 for now until I have more time to try again tomorrow and see if there's a debug code of some kind since I was doing other things and was getting tired and forgot to look.

Bedtime for now :nooo:
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: Wallzii on 05-November-19, 21:00:11
Apparently this may be relevant to those experiencing the Rockstar "launcher exited" crash when attempting to play RDR2 on PC. A lot of people are reporting that updating the BIOS of their motherboard fixes the crash, but it seems there are quite a few lower-tier boards (like the Tomahawk non-MAX) that aren't able to do this yet as a newer BIOS hasn't yet been released.

Reviewing the release dates of 1.0.0.3 updates between the Tomahawk MAX and Tomahawk, the non-max received an update a couple of days after the MAX. It's approaching 2 weeks now after the 1.0.0.4 update to the MAX and I can't find anything on when to expect the same for the non-MAX.

Is there any word on when we can expect to see boards like the B450 Tomahawk receive an updated BIOS with the most-recent microcode?
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: darkhawk on 05-November-19, 22:32:19
Is there any word on when we can expect to see boards like the B450 Tomahawk receive an updated BIOS with the most-recent microcode?
Other than MSI press releases (which stated November sometime), no one here will know when MSI plans to release the update.
You'd need to ask MSI directly. See : >>How to contact MSI.<< (https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=107326.0)
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: emorphien on 06-November-19, 02:15:46
Ugh I downloaded the BIOS for my X570 Gaming Edge WiFi (7C37v15 - Update AMD ComboPI1.0.0.4 Patch B (SMU v46.54)) and after the update it wouldn't boot in to the bios after waiting 5 minutes... just black screens.  

Back at 1.0.0.3 for now until I have more time to try again tomorrow and see if there's a debug code of some kind since I was doing other things and was getting tired and forgot to look.

Bedtime for now :nooo:

Further experimentation, after bios clears and everything else, resulted in me being able to boot with 1.0.0.4 but I had to remove my PCI-E USB C card to do it - otherwise I was stuck with a lit GPU debug LED.  Reinstalling the card just resulted in the same failure.

For now I'm just going to stay on 1.0.0.3 ABBA until they hopefully release a new version that fixes these issues.  Have contacted MSI support and provided as much detail as I can, we'll see what happens.
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: marcin.bijan on 06-November-19, 09:42:04
I just saw you released 1.0.0.4 for B450 Mortar. Any updates on other motherboards?
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: adamzielke91 on 06-November-19, 11:07:41
i got same problem i stuck with b450 tomahawk - AMD ComboPI1.0.0.3abba and i cant play rdr2 :(
how i can downgrade bios to 7C02v15 (m.flash will let me downgrade?)
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: kleinkurti on 06-November-19, 11:45:54
I would also kill for a 1.0.0.4 Update for the  b450 gaming pro carbon ac. PLEASE MSI! Otherwise RDR2 will not start.
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: Nichrome on 06-November-19, 12:18:02
Some updates being rolled out this week. Be patient.
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: marcin.bijan on 06-November-19, 12:36:30
Some updates being rolled out this week. Be patient.

Thanks Nichrome,

we need it fast, it stops us from even launching RDR2 which is crazy... give us some early alfa, I don;t care about OC stability now
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: rafal.mianowicz on 06-November-19, 12:45:14
Can't wait for AGESA 1.0.0.4 for B450 GAMING PLUS... :(
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: colesym on 06-November-19, 15:48:49
Hoping for this update soon. I am stuck on 1.0.0.3abba, B350 MORTAR ARCTIC.
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: DeciBelioS on 06-November-19, 19:26:05
I look forward to new bios with AGESA 1.0.0.4 for x470 gaming plus, RDR2 doesn't work for me :'(
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: Nichrome on 06-November-19, 21:28:16
I know it stops from RDR2 from working and MSI is working on getting new AGESA released to as many boards as quickly as possible.
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: spynxo on 06-November-19, 21:48:06
Waiting for B450 Gaming Plus... :cry:
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: darkhawk on 06-November-19, 22:24:25
RDR2 is having issues on both Intel and AMD platforms.....

Most likely it's not just (possibly) a problem with the BIOS, but a problem with the game as well. So I wouldn't bet on a BIOS updating fixing problems with a game.....not when it's having problems on both AMD and Intel platforms.
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: Wallzii on 07-November-19, 00:53:16
It's definitely a problem on both Intel and AMD platforms, but for Ryzen 3xxx users, it seems to be related to the microcode. A lot of people are having issues with 1.0.0.3ABBA or below on Ryzen 3xxx, and updating to 1.0.0.4 fixes all of their problems.

Of course, Rockstar needs to fix this on their end as it's pretty absurd to ask someone to update their CPU microcode to run their game. But, Rockstar being generally mute on this whole issue is making people seek other avenues for a fix. Rockstar definitely isn't off the hook here, but who knows when they will release a patch that actually fixes the oroblem, rather than just claims to.
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: skyworxx on 07-November-19, 07:08:45
1.0.0.4 just dropped by the B450I
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: davidkeb25 on 07-November-19, 07:21:56
B350 Gaming Pro here. Patiently waiting for that update to play RDR2. Though to be fair this shouldn't be a fix. R* needs to get there stuff together.
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: mathieubzh on 07-November-19, 10:34:56
Hello MSI
Same waiting AGESA1.0.0.4 for the A320M-PRO-VH-PLUS
Hope it will fix RDR2 crash at launch
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: Nichrome on 07-November-19, 10:55:47
Hi

Another ~20 boards received an update today, and 2x A320 boards.
More coming tomorrow / next week.
For any more accurate ETAs please ask MSI directly: >>How to contact MSI.<< (https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=107326.0)
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: mathieubzh on 07-November-19, 12:30:39
Hi

Another ~20 boards received an update today, and 2x A320 boards.
More coming tomorrow / next week.
For any more accurate ETAs please ask MSI directly: >>How to contact MSI.<< (https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=107326.0)

Thanks for the information.I will wait tomorrow or next week.
I think i'm not alone in this situation.
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: DeciBelioS on 07-November-19, 15:58:34
i updated the beta bios on the x470 gaming plus motherboard and now the Red Dead Redemption 2 runs and i can play, thank you MSI <3
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: lonelobo on 07-November-19, 16:18:56
Also new beta bios for X570 creation is online on the official download page form my board. Seems to have fixed the audio swapping issue with Pcie soundblasters.
Changelog for v161 bios:
- Improved system boot up time.
 - Improved PCI-E device compatibility.
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: emorphien on 07-November-19, 17:04:58
Also new beta bios for X570 creation is online on the official download page form my board. Seems to have fixed the audio swapping issue with Pcie soundblasters.
Changelog for v161 bios:
- Improved system boot up time.
 - Improved PCI-E device compatibility.
Nice, I see the same for the X570 Gaming Edge WiFi.  I think I'll wait for it to become official but I'm glad to see they're working through the bugs.
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: benzostanbury on 07-November-19, 19:56:27
It appears the new 1.0.0.4 BIOS for my motherboard (B450A-Pro), as well as other 1.0.0.4 BIOSes for other MSI boards are listed as beta versions with the text, "Note: MSI do not recommend updating the BIOS unless it is necessary".

I'm hoping that MSI released these 1.0.0.4 BIOSes early as betas specifically because people have been complaining about being unable to play a new computer game, RDR2, with 1.0.0.3 BIOS.

As for me, I will be patient, in hopes that  MSI will eventually release a non-beta 1.0.0.4 BIOS for my motherboard.  The faster boot time and 100+ fixes in 1.0.0.4 are tempting, but not so much that I am willing to risk messing up my computer that already runs quite well on 1.0.0.3 ABBA.
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: ms178 on 07-November-19, 23:09:26
Some observations with the new 1.0.0.4B BETA Bios for the non-MAX B450 Tomahawk:

1) With roughly the same BIOS settings and RAM OC, gaming feels much smoother than before with my non-OCed R5 2600 and Vega 56. Good job!

2) The code 10 error which I reported here (https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=326049.0 (https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=326049.0)) is still there. I am on Windows 10 1909 release right now, I don't know if this is on Microsoft, MSI or Realtek to fix, but would be great to do so. 

3) Ryzen Master does crash on startup now, there was no newer version on the AMD website available.

4) I haven't noticed drastically better boot times, but maybe it is faster a couple of seconds.

By the way, almost all UEFI modules within the BIOS are out of date (AMD GOP driver, Realtek LAN, etc.). The first thing I do with each release is to modify the BIOS with the Uefi Bios Updater (UBU) tool and integrate the latest versions of these modules. The tool does this semi-automatically. Just google it and try it yourself if you are interested.
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: Nichrome on 08-November-19, 00:17:02
Thanks for the information.I will wait tomorrow or next week.
I think i'm not alone in this situation.
All motherboard manufacturers face same issue, caused either by poor RDR2 code or AGESA 1.0.0.3 (ABBA?). So no, you're not alone ;D
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: miklet on 08-November-19, 04:12:12
X470 Gaming M7 AC + 3900X on BIOS 1D2
working fine
core frequencies fluctuate slightly more than BIOS 1C
voltage and temperature also seem slightly higher
4 DIMMS run at rated 3200 via XMP setting in BIOS
no problems so far playing games, using internet, using Excel

I need to learn more about Quiet and Cool and fan curve settings. I think my rig runs cool but has excess fan noise to do so.
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: miklet on 08-November-19, 04:38:30
On X470 Gaming M7 AC + 3900X

starting with BIOS 190, the Windows 10 Task Manager Memory screen RAM Speed, number of slots, Form Factor and Hardware Reserved statistics disappeared from the screen.

with BIOS 1D2 the information is back

Interesting that the BIOS may impact Windows ability to report values.
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: Saabjock on 08-November-19, 13:05:27
All settings exactly the same....
I find the CPU scores a bit down from 1.0.0.3 in things like CineBench R20 with the new 1.0.0.4 update.
The minimum and maximum core clock values during the various test were closer...despite being lower. 
The gaming does appear to be smoother overall.
This is on the X470 Gaming Plus.
Go back and check those power profiles as well.
I have always had mine set to Ryzen Performance.
I found it back to Ryzen Balanced and again had to switch it.
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: miklet on 08-November-19, 13:54:24
Go back and check those power profiles as well.
I have always had mine set to Ryzen Performance.
I found it back to Ryzen Balanced and again had to switch it.
Thanks for the input
I checked power plan and YES! it was changed to Balanced. Switched back to Ultimate Performance.

Cinebench R15 with balanced plan = 3147
Cinebench R15 with performance plan = 3164

Thanks again and good luck with you PC performance
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: emorphien on 08-November-19, 19:08:40
On X470 Gaming M7 AC + 3900X

starting with BIOS 190, the Windows 10 Task Manager Memory screen RAM Speed, number of slots, Form Factor and Hardware Reserved statistics disappeared from the screen.

with BIOS 1D2 the information is back

Interesting that the BIOS may impact Windows ability to report values.
I noticed that as well when I was briefly on the new BIOS.
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: mtpunk9595 on 10-November-19, 13:08:10
hey i have a problem with my ryzen 5 3600 on msi tomahawk max the cpu voltage jump to 1.4 (4100 mhz)on idle with no stop causing high temps on idle updated bios to the last version and last chipest driver from amd and the msi site nothing changed some people have this problem too
cool and quiet is enabled btw and disabled pbo in bios same problem

i have win 10 pro 1903

rtx 2060
b450 tomahawk max
16 gb ram 3200 mhz
cpu cooler deep cool gmmaxx 400
evga GD 700 w psu
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: darkhawk on 11-November-19, 00:15:17
hey i have a problem with my ryzen 5 3600 on msi tomahawk max the cpu voltage jump to 1.4 (4100 mhz)on idle with no stop causing high temps on idle updated bios to the last version and last chipest driver from amd and the msi site nothing changed some people have this problem too
cool and quiet is enabled btw and disabled pbo in bios same problem

i have win 10 pro 1903

rtx 2060
b450 tomahawk max
16 gb ram 3200 mhz
cpu cooler deep cool gmmaxx 400
evga GD 700 w psu


Please use actual version numbers, as opposed to 'newest' or 'latest' or 'last' or anything like that.
We don't know what you think is the 'latest' 'last' or 'newest', as it can be different for many people depending on who or what they know.
I'm not even going to be able to try to help until more information is provided with version information.
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: ms178 on 11-November-19, 10:20:44
Thanks for the input
I checked power plan and YES! it was changed to Balanced. Switched back to Ultimate Performance.

Cinebench R15 with balanced plan = 3147
Cinebench R15 with performance plan = 3164

Thanks again and good luck with you PC performance
Just be aware that this increase in performance comes at a cost in terms of power draw. If this doesn't matter for you, fine. I did measure it with a power meter for an older Westmere system some time ago, and balanced was a great compromise while ultimate performance drew significantly more power (the latency was noticeably better though).
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: mtpunk9595 on 11-November-19, 19:32:34
Please use actual version numbers, as opposed to 'newest' or 'latest' or 'last' or anything like that.
We don't know what you think is the 'latest' 'last' or 'newest', as it can be different for many people depending on who or what they know.
I'm not even going to be able to try to help until more information is provided with version information.

i tried AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B and the version before it too all the same even the stock one that came with board v 7c02v30 all hit high cpu voltage on idle non stop also all the newest amd chipest already installed from msi site v 19.10.28 and the one from amd site v 1.9.27.1033
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: Stag on 12-November-19, 01:50:25
X570 Unify X3800

With defaults set in bios.
Bios A0 Base clock 3600Mhz
Bios A21 Base clock 3875Mhz
Base clock should be 3900Mhz
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: ukdaveuk on 12-November-19, 16:08:40
I have a B450 Tomahawk MAX, just upgraded the bios from V30 to V351, now my ryzen 3600 is stuck at 0.5ghz, will not increase and the PC runs so slow.  Looked in the bios Vcore was set to auto at 0.928V.  Downgraded to V34 and the same happened.  Back to V30 and now the Vcore is back at around 1.44V on auto and the CPU runs as before up to 4.1Ghz.

Am I meant to change the Vcore setting manually? I've never messed around with such settings. I'm not interested in overclocking just want the CPU to run at the advertised boost speed of 4.2Ghz. Is there some other setting to change or are these bioses just as buggy as all the others after V30?
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: gortha on 15-November-19, 10:06:09
Is the BIOS Version for Agesa 1.0.0.4b for MSI X470 Gaming Plus another Version than 7B79vAG2(Beta version) from the official Support Site?

Because since i installed the Beta Version 7B79vAG2 my PC Freezes from Time to Time while Browsing in Firefox. Really Freezes and needs a reboot.
Hadn´t this Propblem with 1.0.0.3abba and earlier.

Needed the Beta BIOS because Red Dead Redemption2 - which only starts with 1.0.0.2 or Older or 1.0.0.4(b)

Regards
Gortha
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: liviut2003 on 15-November-19, 17:17:11
Don't even dare to update to the 1NU for the MSI X370 GAMING PRO CARBON, if you have hynix cjr like mine you can't overclock them to nothing my settings on abba works like a charm with 3800 mhz, 1900 fabric clock, cl 16-21-16-21-36, 1.4v, i tried everything with this new 1NU bios nothing works on overclock the ram literally nothing i tried very loose timing on 3600 mhz like 18-21-21-21 and 1.36 till 1.42v nothing works it wont boot no matter what even tried the XMP for 3733 pfew blocked directly, so my advice wait for a new bios or stay on the 1.NT with abba.
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: hightechclayton on 16-November-19, 13:21:09
I also have Msi x370 gaming pro carbon and upgraded to bios 1004 1NU and memory gets stuck at 2133mhz. With 1003abba 1NT bios it ran 3733mhz cl14 in memory and 1867mhz in infinty fabric. The question is, didn't engineers test bios correctly?
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: hightechclayton on 16-November-19, 13:22:23
I also have Msi x370 gaming pro carbon and upgraded to bios 1004 1NU and memory gets stuck at 2133mhz. With 1003abba 1NT bios it ran 3733mhz cl14 in memory and 1867mhz in infinty fabric. The question is, didn't engineers test bios correctly?
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: Si7ruz on 16-November-19, 14:22:06
Hi,

I just upgraded to a Ryzen 7 3700X with the Tomahawk MAX board and I'm getting the cold boot black screen issue.

Hearing mixed things about the new BIOS that's supposed to fix this. The cold boot is the only issue for me so I don't want to mess with things and make them worse, but at the same time I don't want to have to boot twice every day I load my computer for the first time.

Is it still the case that the latest beta version of the BIOS fixes things, but the stable MSI website version causes additional problems for this board?

I'd prefer not to use a beta version. I don't intend to continuously be flashing a new BIOS either. I just want to install a confirmed MSI mainstream version and be done with it. Is it worth waiting for the next full release?

What is the advice of other Tomahawk MAX users here?

Many thanks all.
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: RiPe on 16-November-19, 19:10:42
I also have Msi x370 gaming pro carbon and upgraded to bios 1004 1NU and memory gets stuck at 2133mhz. With 1003abba 1NT bios it ran 3733mhz cl14 in memory and 1867mhz in infinty fabric. The question is, didn't engineers test bios correctly?

Same problem here

I use B350M Mortar motherboard, with the previous version of Bios "1003 abba" I could set the ram frequency to 2866 MHz and use normally, and now Bios in "1004" version is impossible to overclock above 2133 MHz because is failing memory overclock after rebooting.

Hey MSI FIX That!
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: johnmikhail on 17-November-19, 07:05:15
Hi,

I just upgraded to a Ryzen 7 3700X with the Tomahawk MAX board and I'm getting the cold boot black screen issue.

Hearing mixed things about the new BIOS that's supposed to fix this. The cold boot is the only issue for me so I don't want to mess with things and make them worse, but at the same time I don't want to have to boot twice every day I load my computer for the first time.

Is it still the case that the latest beta version of the BIOS fixes things, but the stable MSI website version causes additional problems for this board?

I'd prefer not to use a beta version. I don't intend to continuously be flashing a new BIOS either. I just want to install a confirmed MSI mainstream version and be done with it. Is it worth waiting for the next full release?

What is the advice of other Tomahawk MAX users here?

Many thanks all.


I have tried all the BIOS versions since the release of the Tomahawk Max and the most stable versions in my experience are the latest stable (7C02v34) and the beta version before that (I forgot the version). I also advice you to avoid the latest beta (7C02v351), this is the worst BIOS version I have tried to date.

Good luck!
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: daniel20986 on 17-November-19, 07:16:32
I can confirm, that X370 Gaming Pro Carbon only boots with 2133MHz on ram with the new beta 1NU.
My system have a R5 3600 and 16GB of Patriot Viper 4 @ 3200 MHz. That worked smoth on the last versions at standart CL16 setting and 1,35V.
Now playing around with voltage and timings does nothing - PC just boot and 2133MHz or otherwise stucks in the memory OC counter and "F1 to go BIOS"

Instead of crying around in big letters - share some information on us and MSI - without you can scream FIX IT against your wall for help ;)
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: przelip on 17-November-19, 12:02:24
I can confirm, that X370 Gaming Pro Carbon only boots with 2133MHz on ram with the new beta 1NU.
My system have a R5 3600 and 16GB of Patriot Viper 4 @ 3200 MHz. That worked smoth on the last versions at standart CL16 setting and 1,35V.
Now playing around with voltage and timings does nothing - PC just boot and 2133MHz or otherwise stucks in the memory OC counter and "F1 to go BIOS"

Instead of crying around in big letters - share some information on us and MSI - without you can scream FIX IT against your wall for help ;)
I have the same issue with my RAM. I can enable XMP profile in BIOS (3000 MHz) but regardless of this setting in Windows my RAM is only 2400 MHz :sad: I'm waiting for an update :)
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: BUTTERS on 17-November-19, 18:30:40
What is the eta of bios update (amd comboPI 1.0.0.4 (SMU v46.54) for MSI B450M PRO VDH PLUS?
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: darkhawk on 17-November-19, 18:36:02
what is the ETA of  AMD ComboPI1.0.0.4 Patch B (SMU v46.54)for MSI B450M PRO VDH PLUS?
Beta version available here : https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/B450M-PRO-VDH-PLUS (https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/B450M-PRO-VDH-PLUS)
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: BUTTERS on 17-November-19, 18:38:45
Beta version available here : https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/B450M-PRO-VDH-PLUS (https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/B450M-PRO-VDH-PLUS)

thanks but i already have beta but theres a problem in cpu fan its rpm keep increasing and decreasing even i m not using any gaming or other high usage program?
right now i m typing and my cpu fan rpm is 2000+ ?
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: BUTTERS on 17-November-19, 18:41:17
thanks but i already have beta but theres a problem in cpu fan its rpm keep increasing and decreasing even i m not using any gaming or other high usage program?
right now i m typing and my cpu fan rpm is 2000+ ?

Any info about stable release?
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: Nichrome on 17-November-19, 20:04:47
Any info about stable release?
Maybe from MSI - >>How to contact MSI.<< (https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=107326.0)
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: slicecall on 18-November-19, 22:12:17
B450A-PRO after update all timings for RAM moved to another section and now they are in HEX, how to make them back? Also I can't even enter values fro some fields.
Title: Re: AMD BETA BIOS Update
Post by: imwechs on 18-November-19, 22:59:05
MEG X570 ACE with 7C35v144 (AGESA 1.0.0.3abb)
* No more bug with stuck on POST after MCLCK+FCLCK raising up to 3600(1800)
* Significantly reduced perfomance (max XFR clocks on 3900X - 4414MHz)

Seems no more changes there. Will check later.

 You are so right. The performance dropped but also the stable overclock is significantly lower than on the previous bios. I sold the ACE and bought the MEG Unify instead because it has better vrm heat sink thermals than the ACE. Those insipid plastic heat sink covers on the ACE were replaced with finned metal heatsink covers leading to better thermals. No RGB, no stupid gameboost knob, and no Intel Gb lan, but netter attention to thermal details. Same VRM support as the ACE for $300 instead of $370.
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: w.knoll on 19-November-19, 08:06:57
My X370 Gaming Pro Carbon AC only boots with 2400 MHz RAMClock with the new beta 7A32v2IP
My system have a R7 3700X and 16GB of G.SKILL Flare X F4-3200C14D-16GFX 3200MHz.
All bios versions prior to 7A32v2IP work flawlessly with the xmp profile.
In this version i can´t even activate the xmp profile, after activation the PC just boot and stucks in the memory OC counter and "F1 to go to BIOS".
Flashed successful back to 1.0.0.3abba and wait for a fix.
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: alexmuffel on 23-November-19, 14:21:57
Vcore offset seems  to be reversed for B450 Gaming Pro Carbon AC (bios 7b85v1b). Setting a negative offset results in more Vcore applied (HWinfo, Ryzen Master) and reversed.
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: stexsa on 23-November-19, 20:07:05
I have like many others Problems with new BIOS 7A33v5JP(Beta version) for X370 GAMING PLUS.

Memory is stuck at 2133, any change (xmp profile or manual settings) keeps reseting memory to 2133 MhZ again.

With "old" 1.0.0.3 ABBA memory is working normal at 3200MhZ on xmp Profile, even some oc is possible.

P.S i Use g.skill ripjaws V ddr 4 3200 MhZ CL15 ram.

I hope someone from MSI is reading here and they gonna fix the issue soon.

Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: hamid.7508 on 29-November-19, 17:14:29
Hi.
I have B350M Mortar & Ryzen 1600.
( AMD ComboPI1.0.0.4 Patch B ) has released for my Motherboard.
Can I Use it ? or This Update is only for third generation ryzen ????
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: darkhawk on 30-November-19, 06:04:16
Hi.
I have B350M Mortar & Ryzen 1600.
( AMD ComboPI1.0.0.4 Patch B ) has released for my Motherboard.
Can I Use it ? or This Update is only for third generation ryzen ????

No. The new patches are strictly meant for the newest generation of Ryzen CPU's.
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: liviut2003 on 03-December-19, 16:34:55
Coming back now with the new 1NV bios the ram is just fine, exactly like it was on my abba bios, so feel free to update to the 1NV with agesa 1004.
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: w.knoll on 04-December-19, 07:31:26
My X370 Gaming Pro Carbon AC only boots with 2400 MHz RAMClock with the new beta 7A32v2IP
My system have a R7 3700X and 16GB of G.SKILL Flare X F4-3200C14D-16GFX 3200MHz.
All bios versions prior to 7A32v2IP work flawlessly with the xmp profile.
In this version i can´t even activate the xmp profile, after activation the PC just boot and stucks in the memory OC counter and "F1 to go to BIOS".
Flashed successful back to 1.0.0.3abba and wait for a fix.
I can confirm that the memory problems are gone wtith bios version 7A32v2IQ from 2019-12-03.
Good work MSI, but your supportpage and team (i created a ticket before) was not very useful at least.
anyway, all good for me now.
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: Freeman79 on 04-December-19, 17:21:57
Any new beta Bios available for the MPG X570 GAMING EDGE WIFI ?
...I still have RAM OC issues with v16 from the support page.
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: plutomate on 05-December-19, 02:28:26
Any new beta Bios available for the MPG X570 GAMING EDGE WIFI ?
...I still have RAM OC issues with v16 from the support page.
it looks like the problem is with 300s motherboard not x570. it's better to explain your problem in a new thread imo!!
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: Freeman79 on 05-December-19, 17:23:14
it looks like the problem is with 300s motherboard not x570. it's better to explain your problem in a new thread imo!!
This thread is about all the Beta Bios, and I don't have the need to explain anything anywhere else.
All I asked is for a new beta version.
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: plutomate on 06-December-19, 02:48:45
i see good luck with the new beta BIOS :biggthumbsup:
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: ms178 on 06-December-19, 23:47:24
As MSI mentioned dates for the final version of these BIOSes, is there a new ETA? For my (non-MAX) B450 Tomahawk a BETA version was released exactly one month ago and the final version should have been released at the end of November. Were there some problems found in validation or why does it take so long to release a final version? After all there are people out there which are reluctant to flash BETA versions and are still waiting for a final version with this new AGESA revision...
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: darkhawk on 07-December-19, 14:33:20
As MSI mentioned dates for the final version of these BIOSes, is there a new ETA? For my (non-MAX) B450 Tomahawk a BETA version was released exactly one month ago and the final version should have been released at the end of November. Were there some problems found in validation or why does it take so long to release a final version? After all there are people out there which are reluctant to flash BETA versions and are still waiting for a final version with this new AGESA revision...

We do not have any timelines from MSI. They never have, and most likely never will, provide timelines more than what you've seen previously.
As far as why it takes so long, MSI does testing and validation to do their best to make sure they work well. 
MSI, unlike some other companies, isn't in the business to put out poor BIOS's that will brick a board or create more problems than the previous BIOS. Granted, that's not always the case with their BIOS's (trust me, I know how often things break), but that's just how it is. Consider how much validation a BIOS has to go through for each board, once you think about how many generations of CPU's and different CPU's each board/BIOS has to work with. Then consider other hardware (memory, SSD, etc....) just to ensure things work properly. 
More than anything, AMD's insistence on ensuring their motherboards work with so many generations of CPU's only makes things much worse.....Sorry to say, but it's the truth.
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: emorphien on 09-December-19, 16:16:14
Any new beta Bios available for the MPG X570 GAMING EDGE WIFI ?
...I still have RAM OC issues with v16 from the support page.
DIfferent issue but I'm still hoping for an update.  I don't know if I tried it when it said Beta but I tried 7C37v16 after the beta tag was removed on my X570 Gaming Edge WiFi and I still have an extra PCI device causing the system to hang on a black screen when trying to boot.

I'm still stuck on abba for the time being.
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: tsg on 13-December-19, 11:55:59
Hello to all,

I have read the description of the beta bios with "ComboPI1.0.0.4 Patch B (SMU v46.54". It says "support added for Ryzen 3 2200g". I have r3 2200g and I still use 1 year old official released bios for my a320m pro vh plus (7B07v3E). shall I update to beta with "ComboPI1.0.0.4 Patch B (SMU v46.54"?
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: darkhawk on 14-December-19, 07:23:04
Hello to all,

I have read the description of the beta bios with "ComboPI1.0.0.4 Patch B (SMU v46.54". It says "support added for Ryzen 3 2200g". I have r3 2200g and I still use 1 year old official released bios for my a320m pro vh plus (7B07v3E). shall I update to beta with "ComboPI1.0.0.4 Patch B (SMU v46.54"?
My stance with AMD and BIOS will never change....

If it works and you don't have problems, don't update your BIOS. Newer versions aren't going to increase performance or make your CPU any better. 
If you update, it might not work, or work well, and even downgrading sometimes has proven to be a pain, or not work.

So, I reiterate, if your system is working well and you don't have problems, I wouldn't update.
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: veganfanatic on 20-December-19, 03:28:35
We do not have any timelines from MSI. They never have, and most likely never will, provide timelines more than what you've seen previously.
As far as why it takes so long, MSI does testing and validation to do their best to make sure they work well.
MSI, unlike some other companies, isn't in the business to put out poor BIOS's that will brick a board or create more problems than the previous BIOS. Granted, that's not always the case with their BIOS's (trust me, I know how often things break), but that's just how it is. Consider how much validation a BIOS has to go through for each board, once you think about how many generations of CPU's and different CPU's each board/BIOS has to work with. Then consider other hardware (memory, SSD, etc....) just to ensure things work properly.
More than anything, AMD's insistence on ensuring their motherboards work with so many generations of CPU's only makes things much worse.....Sorry to say, but it's the truth.

I am experiencing problems with a Radeon card installed while a GeForce card works fine

This is a most bizzare problem
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: darkhawk on 21-December-19, 00:04:39
I am experiencing problems with a Radeon card installed while a GeForce card works fine

This is a most bizzare problem

Would love to try and help, but kinda need more info. What card? Brand? Model? for both? And what hardware do you have? See : >>Posting Guide<< (https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=38822.0)
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: veganfanatic on 23-December-19, 02:28:54
Would love to try and help, but kinda need more info. What card? Brand? Model? for both? And what hardware do you have? See : >>Posting Guide<< (https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=38822.0)

I am using a Sapphire RX 480 8GB OC GDDR5 card.

Rest of the rig is in my signature
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: giannismarkou37 on 24-December-19, 12:44:18
B450 tomahawk non max will receive any bios update? Cuz this ugly silver interface with less options for oc sucks xd
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: plutomate on 25-December-19, 08:40:21
it has been explained thoroughly
https://www.msi.com/page/mb-beta-bios (https://www.msi.com/page/mb-beta-bios)
and you will not get the original GSE BIOS with the upcoming update.

What kinda option of OC you miss in GSE lite BIOS?
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: Freeman79 on 25-December-19, 17:29:11
@Leonard
You maybe have a newer beta version available or know when we see next beta bioses drop?
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: veganfanatic on 26-December-19, 19:30:54
We do not have any timelines from MSI. They never have, and most likely never will, provide timelines more than what you've seen previously.
As far as why it takes so long, MSI does testing and validation to do their best to make sure they work well.
MSI, unlike some other companies, isn't in the business to put out poor BIOS's that will brick a board or create more problems than the previous BIOS. Granted, that's not always the case with their BIOS's (trust me, I know how often things break), but that's just how it is. Consider how much validation a BIOS has to go through for each board, once you think about how many generations of CPU's and different CPU's each board/BIOS has to work with. Then consider other hardware (memory, SSD, etc....) just to ensure things work properly.
More than anything, AMD's insistence on ensuring their motherboards work with so many generations of CPU's only makes things much worse.....Sorry to say, but it's the truth.


I like that my MSI X570-A PRO has a BIOS flashback feature. This eliminates the problem of no CPU for flashing the ROM etc.

I used that feature to update my motherboard so I  could POST with my R5 2400G processor.

Soon the Ryzen 4000 lineup will be available and I was looking at a new CPU from the second wave of 7nm which should have the errata fixed etc

Supporting a lot of processors needs more BIOS space which is another big reason I grabbed the X570 besides the other advantages, i would love it if all AM4 processors would POST
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: darkhawk on 27-December-19, 01:26:08
I like that my MSI X570-A PRO has a BIOS flashback feature. This eliminates the problem of no CPU for flashing the ROM etc.

I used that feature to update my motherboard so I  could POST with my R5 2400G processor.

Soon the Ryzen 4000 lineup will be available and I was looking at a new CPU from the second wave of 7nm which should have the errata fixed etc

Supporting a lot of processors needs more BIOS space which is another big reason I grabbed the X570 besides the other advantages, i would love it if all AM4 processors would POST

It's a great idea (the AM4 platform) on paper....however....

The issue is that AMD hasn't stood fast with what they laid out long ago.....and things have changed with the socket over time (much unbeknownst to users and most in the industry.....). 
That isn't how you create a good, stable, long lasting platform. It's how you create a problematic system. 
Then throw the BIOS issues on top, and honestly, it just really causes me to shy away from them.

I love the hardware, it has some great performance features and technologies. 
But, it's like a Toyota Prius. Great system with some great ideas behind it, but overall, all it does is get in the way on the highway.
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: peetweb on 27-December-19, 13:12:55
I hope you guys (MSI) are still working on the BIOS for the B450 Tomahawk MAX. :think:

Latest is v35, from 11.11.19

The boot times are still lackluster, fyi 20+ Seconds min. With Samsung 850 evo SSD.

When optimzing the memory timings and i set the command rate manually to 1, its sets itself to 2, sometimes and all of a sudden.

Some of the Fan control settings are bugged, ie. not working to the max potential of the fans advertised max speed.

I bet there are still tons of bugs in the code considering the conversion from PCIe 4.0 back to 3.0.

Anyways, happy holidays and happy new year. ;D
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: plutomate on 02-January-20, 06:09:29
imo it's better to keep it at gear down mode for better RAM OC stability
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: veganfanatic on 03-January-20, 19:32:02
It's a great idea (the AM4 platform) on paper....however....

The issue is that AMD hasn't stood fast with what they laid out long ago.....and things have changed with the socket over time (much unbeknownst to users and most in the industry.....).
That isn't how you create a good, stable, long lasting platform. It's how you create a problematic system.
Then throw the BIOS issues on top, and honestly, it just really causes me to shy away from them.

I love the hardware, it has some great performance features and technologies.
But, it's like a Toyota Prius. Great system with some great ideas behind it, but overall, all it does is get in the way on the highway.

I know that there are some minor BIOS problems but the Radeon card problem is a crazy problem. I can only install drivers via INF files.
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: peetweb on 05-January-20, 09:06:36
imo it's better to keep it at gear down mode for better RAM OC stability

Naaa mate, have good RAM (3600 cl15 stock) and i know what iam doing, so this board should let me do what i want and not tinker in my :censored: .
Also Command Rate 1 vs 2 is like 15% in terms of performance with zen 2.
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: plutomate on 06-January-20, 02:31:45
i'm not talking about performance but rather stability, but i mean if you want command rate at 1 you can just disable gear mode mode, isn't it? :confused2:
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: peetweb on 06-January-20, 06:09:54
i'm not talking about performance but rather stability, but i mean if you want command rate at 1 you can just disable gear mode mode, isn't it? :confused2:

Which, strangly, also puts the Command Rate automatically to 2 most of the time.
Like i said, there is something going on here.
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: Freeman79 on 06-January-20, 17:29:59
Which, strangly, also puts the Command Rate automatically to 2 most of the time.
Like i said, there is something going on here.
You neither set Command rate to 1T or 2T but set it to "Gear down Mode"
That gives you the 1T command rate... Not sure what MSI have done here
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: darkhawk on 06-January-20, 23:24:41
I know that there are some minor BIOS problems but the Radeon card problem is a crazy problem. I can only install drivers via INF files.

Honestly, theres probably nothing we here can do. You'd need to talk to MSI directly via : >>How to contact MSI.<< (https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=107326.0)

It sounds more like a BIOS issue and initializing the card during bootup more than anything. Clearly there isn't a problem with the hardware though.
Title: Re: AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B BIOS Update
Post by: veganfanatic on 08-January-20, 22:28:00
Honestly, theres probably nothing we here can do. You'd need to talk to MSI directly via : >>How to contact MSI.<< (https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=107326.0)

It sounds more like a BIOS issue and initializing the card during bootup more than anything. Clearly there isn't a problem with the hardware though.

I am also on the AMD forum and they are aware of the headaches I have with my RX 480 OC 8GB

All I can do is be a squeaky wheel