11x USB 3.2 outputs on motherboard header how to use connect all of the USB outputs?

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Standard ATX case front panel, what don't you understand about that?
I would like to run "ALL" the motherboard output headers to the "standard" ATX case front panel.
Most MSi boards for AMD have 11 USB outputs.
Standard ATX case front panel = VAGUE

some have no Bays as there is no such thing as standard there is 1000 ways that could be. also what ports does the case have itself so we know how many Extras it needs as most cases can come with anywhere from 2-8 USB ports itself of Varying Types.

Please just Give us answers to this so we know what you actually Need please just throw us a Bone of some kind.

1: Does its have any 5 1/2 bays Empty to use (normally take CD Drives):
2: Does its have any 5 1/2 bays Empty to use (that normally take a Floopy Disk or Card Reader):
3: Does it have any USB 2.0 Ports on the Case itself if so how many:
4: Does it have any USB 3.0 Ports on the Case Itself if so how many:

Please just answer them 4 so we can work out Something do not make me beg then we can work out what is actually Needed.
 

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Poster is a troll and I'm about to ban them if they keep on the way they are posting, questioned been answered. More than once
 

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Plus, it's not up to MSI to supply you with something that fits onto your case. All cases are made differently, there is no standard case.
 

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Standard ATX case front panel = VAGUE

some have no Bays as there is no such thing as standard there is 1000 ways that could be. also what ports does the case have itself so we know how many Extras it needs as most cases can come with anywhere from 2-8 USB ports itself of Varying Types.

Please just Give us answers to this so we know what you actually Need please just throw us a Bone of some kind.

1: Does its have any 5 1/2 bays Empty to use (normally take CD Drives):
2: Does its have any 5 1/2 bays Empty to use (that normally take a Floopy Disk or Card Reader):
3: Does it have any USB 2.0 Ports on the Case itself if so how many:
4: Does it have any USB 3.0 Ports on the Case Itself if so how many:

Please just answer them 4 so we can work out Something do not make me beg then we can work out what is actually Needed.
I would like to run "ALL" the motherboard output headers to the "5 1/2 bays (normally take CD Drives)" at the front of the ATX case
As far as I know every standard ATX case has a front "5 1/2 bays (normally take CD Drives)"
Can MSi recommend a header cable that will run ALL the motherboard outputs to the front of the "5 1/2 bays (normally take CD Drives)" ATX case.
The cable that was posted on this thread was a "Splitter Cable" completely useless for running 4 or 8 USB drives.
Most MSi boards have outputs for 19 USB drives. What cable do I use to utilise all of the motherboard outputs?
 

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Can MSi recommend a header cable that will run ALL the motherboard outputs to the front of the "5 1/2 bays (normally take CD Drives)" ATX case.
You keep saying that, but you are not talking to MSI here.
That being said ...
for the internal JUSB 4-5 (USB 2.0) connectors you need an adapter similar with this one:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/StarTech-com-USBPLATE4-Female-Plate-Adapter-Grey/dp/B00015Y0FK
for the internal JUSB 2-3 (USB 3.2) connectors you need an adapter similar with this one:
The rest it's up to you.

p.s.
We cannot help you with the front case.
 

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So let's just get a few things straight....cases aren't necessarily all the same, have the same format, or even the same cable configurations....
All cases DO NOT have 5.25" drive slots either..... https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Cases/c/Cor_Products_Cases
Funny, every case on the first page of cases there (corsair is a pretty large manufacturer of cases.....) has exactly 0 external 5.25" drive slots.....Nor do they have any external 3.5" slots or 2.5" slots either......

That being said, if you want to run all the ports to the front panel, you're not going to find a single cable that will do all of them for you. You're looking at multiple cables, no matter what. Each USB 3.0 port will require it's own cable, as will each USB2.0 header. You could probably zip tie them all together into a big bundle if you wanted though.....

You could use 2 of those to get most of the USB2.0 and USB 3.0 ports to the front panel. Ultimately though, the USB2.0's are a 4 to 1 HUB, so you'd only use 1 USB2.0 port for each 5.25" bay device. But you'd still get 8 USB2.0 ports if you used 2, or 12 if you used 3 of them.

Sadly, that device is about as dense as you're going to get, due to cable and device sizes requiring there to be some amount of distance between each one.

I'd also just like to state that people here are trying to help, but your insistence on your point of view being correct makes it impossible to help you. Realize that others may (or probably do) know more, and take their opinions and knowledge and learn from it. Ultimately, you don't have to believe what anyone here is telling you, however, given that most of the people that have posted here are saying the same thing, are a mix of moderators and users that have thousands of posts helping users.....I would probably assume they know a bit more.

If you don't like their recommendations, I'd move on and find what you want then, because someone here isn't going to provide it for you.
 

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Thanks for your time.
The MSi Motherboards have 11x USB 3.2 outputs on motherboard.
But I cannot find a way of using all the 11x USB 3.2 outputs.
The links for products are USB 2.0 and are splitters you could not run 2 hard drives of them.
So we have no way of running the full 11x USB 3.2 outputs straight from the motherboard, this is all I am asking?
Was hoping asking for a 7 port USB 3.0 output cable that would run from the motherboard at the same speed as USB 3.0 like the 7 Port PCI Express card.

I use one of these, PCI Express USB 3.0. its not a USB "splitter". This device will run 7 USB 3.0 hard drives at full load all day.

StarTech.com 7 Port PCI Express USB 3.0 Card Standard and Low-Profile Ports PEXUSB3S7
 

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So we have no way of running the full 11x USB 3.2 outputs straight from the motherboard, this is all I am asking?
Man ... you are amazing! :biggrin:
Click on DETAIL.
There are 19 and 10 of them are already connected to the back panel!
I gave you the solution to bring the remaining 4 x USB 2.0 and 4 x USB 3.2 to the front panel.
Now you have 18 connected.
If you really need 19 (LOL), just find a solution for the last USB 3.2 Gen2 internal connector.
What else do you need here?
:biggrin:
 

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Thanks for your time.
The MSi Motherboards have 11x USB 3.2 outputs on motherboard.
But I cannot find a way of using all the 11x USB 3.2 outputs.
The links for products are USB 2.0 and are splitters you could not run 2 hard drives of them.
So we have no way of running the full 11x USB 3.2 outputs straight from the motherboard, this is all I am asking?
Was hoping asking for a 7 port USB 3.0 output cable that would run from the motherboard at the same speed as USB 3.0 like the 7 Port PCI Express card.

I use one of these, PCI Express USB 3.0. its not a USB "splitter". This device will run 7 USB 3.0 hard drives at full load all day.

StarTech.com 7 Port PCI Express USB 3.0 Card Standard and Low-Profile Ports PEXUSB3S7
That device is a splitter. A single USB 3.2 port can handle 20GB/s of data.
That card takes a SINGLE PCIe x1 slot and turns it into 7 USB3.2 ports, meaning it should support 140 GB/s of data.....
Even at the max of USB3.0, which is 5 GB/s, that card comes in woefully low on bandwidth, since 7 x 5 = 35GB/s of data. A single PCIe x1 @ 3.0 = 1GB/s......
What I'm trying to say is that your example is wrong, and your numbers just don't make sense......
As far as running at full load.....that's a laugh. Yes, it'll run all day, but with 7 of them running, it's going to be slower than an 10 year old SATA hard drive in comparison.....You're splitting the bandwidth up WAY too much to really be effective. A device like that is meant to handle a bunch of small load devices, like mice, keyboards, webcams, microphones or sound cards, which aren't going to be maxing out the bandwidth of a since PCIe x1 slot......A single hard drive could technically max that out if it wanted to.

On top of that, the board doesn't have 11 USB3.2 internal headers.
It's got 4 3.2 Type A ports, and a single Type C port.
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HOWEVER, those 4 ports are actually 2 ports per connector. There's only 2 connectors on the board, JUSB2 and JUSB3, for USB3.2 Type A ports.
JUSB1 is for the Type C connector. So realistically, there are 4 Type A ports and 1Type C port, but it's really only 2 connectors for type a and 1 for the type c.
It does also have USB 2.0 headers.
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Same deal here. 4 ports, but only 2 connectors which are JUSB4 and JUSB5.

Overall, if you want those ports out on the front of your PC, you're going to need a device similar to what was proposed above. And in fact, thats probably the best you're going to get.
Insisting otherwise means little here. We're merely quoting the specs and what is hard facts.
Thinking otherwise and interpreting them differently isn't going to change that what we are stating really is just the truth. I would get those 5.25" drives and use those as required. You're not going to get much better at this point.


Taken straight from the manual :
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5 total USB headers.
1 USB 3.2 Type C (JUSB1)
2 USB 3.2 Type A (JUSB2 and JUSB3)
2 USB 2.0 (JUSB4 and JUSB5)

Now sure what else to say at this point other than.....
 

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5 total USB headers.
1 USB 3.2 Type C (JUSB1)
2 USB 3.2 Type A (JUSB2 and JUSB3)
2 USB 2.0 (JUSB4 and JUSB5)
There are 9 ports on those 5 headers.
There are 2 ports per JUSB2,3,4,5
I gave him solutions how to bring those 4 x USB 2.0 and 4 x USB 3.2 to either front or back panel.
 

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Thanks so much for your time darkhawk and a great explanation.
I think this is the product I'm looking for.
It says 8 USB 3.0, is that a real 8 at USB 3.0, would be great to know the speeds.
Connects straight from the motherboard.

ITHOO 5.25Inch Optical Drive Front Panel HUB Dual Core 19PIN to 8 USB3.0 Ports
Thanks for your time and I think this product is what I was looking for.

JUSB2~3: USB 3.2 Gen 1 5Gbps Connectors
These connectors allow you to connect USB 3.2 Gen 1 5Gbps ports on the front panel
 

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ITHOO 5.25Inch Optical Drive Front Panel HUB Dual Core 19PIN to 8 USB3.0 Ports
Thanks for your time and I think this product is what I was looking for.
No, is not good.
I already told you twice. For the last time:
you can have only 2 ports per JUSB2 (or JUSB3). Not 8 !!!
 

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Thanks so much for your time darkhawk and a great explanation.
I think this is the product I'm looking for.
It says 8 USB 3.0, is that a real 8 at USB 3.0, would be great to know the speeds.
Connects straight from the motherboard.

ITHOO 5.25Inch Optical Drive Front Panel HUB Dual Core 19PIN to 8 USB3.0 Ports
Thanks for your time and I think this product is what I was looking for.

JUSB2~3: USB 3.2 Gen 1 5Gbps Connectors
These connectors allow you to connect USB 3.2 Gen 1 5Gbps ports on the front panel
As a side note, you're only using 1 JUSB connector (2 ports) then. That device then splits up each port into 4 USB connectors. So it's a 4 to 1 HUB. Each port gets 4 connectors then. You would not really be utilizing it well, as the bandwidth would then be split between all 4 ports if you're using them all at the same time.
Now, if you used 2 of those, you would get 16 USB ports, and could utilize all the USB3.0 ports off the motherboard. You'd just have to remember how you connect devices as you could limit the bandwidth if you put multiple high bandwidth (hard drives/SSDs for instance) on the same set of 4 ports.
 

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There are 9 ports on those 5 headers.
There are 2 ports per JUSB2,3,4,5
I gave him solutions how to bring those 4 x USB 2.0 and 4 x USB 3.2 to either front or back panel.
Yes. I explained that up above in the text where it was discussed. I just noted what the ports were on the motherboard for reference to the diagram above that.
 
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