12900hk experiences

[pacheco.phili151502d4]

thanks for all the good information, i appreciate it. do you know what the fan 1 is cooling? the gpu or cpu? that one keeps running in msi center at 1991rpm. can i do something about that if it is the gpu?

Fan 1 is the cpu. Fan 2 doesn’t come on often cause its for the GPU (not always in use)

if you want to edit your fan curves you need to go into msi center>user scenario>extreme performance setting icon

in there you can adjust your fan curve on both

 

[pacheco.phili151502d4]

I created a 12700H Power Scaling Graph and added temperatures associated to each of thosePL1 PL2 values. You can check it out here: https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/ge76-cpu-12th-gen-temperatures.372394/post-2111512

12900 will likely show higher scores

 

[amzuk.leina158702e0]

Hi everyone,
so now finally i cant share my results for 12900hk. I repasted it with thermal grizzly kryonaut extreme. For CPU results are perfect i think. I use cooling pad, but basic. GPU temp after 6 minutes with furmark is 74 degrees. Not so big jump from basic thermal grizzly kryonaut (76 degrees), but CPU is something different. Stress test in intel XTU for 10minutes keep TDP between 83-85 watts all the time. Power limit wasnt turn on, i was suprised. Thermal throttling stop CPU to go higher. Clock was 4ghz all the time. When i first time run Intel XTU cpu bench test, the result was 5600 points, now it is 6600 (repasting + undervolting). For now im testing setup for long term and than ill go higher with P-Core undervolt to -100mv, but i think im close to edge of stability. For sure repasting help a lot with this paste for CPU. Some pictures with setup and how looks cpu and gpu on real. You can see why CPU has problem with overheating even GPU goes on 125W permanetly on 74 degrees and CPU just 85w with thermal throttling (92-95 degrees)

 

[pacheco.phili151502d4]

nice. Thanks for sharing the pics. The TDP maintaining at 83-85watts is good; means that it reached a point of stability temp/power. Be curious to see if it was the undervolt or the repaste that gave the most gains.

did u you re apply that thermal pad gum on the surrounding chips or left it as is? I think the product is "K5 Pro"

also, if you want even more cooling.I have the iets gt500 which dropped my temps by 5-10c on max fans. (Noisy but i’m on headphones so who cares).

can you post cinebench C23 multicore tests (temps max temps avg, avg power,score, and avg clock?)

Depending on gains i may repaste myself. Earlier than planned.

 

[pacheco.phili151502d4]

@nesi156a02d2 I got the IETS GT500 laptop cooler, it has legit lowered my temps by approximately 3-7C on the top end under full load. and lol on idle i'm at 19C on CPU. With my 12700h TDP settings lowered to 65 and 70 (PL1 and PL2) ; a conservative TCC of 9 (activates thermal throttling at 91C). This allowed me to turn my attention to the GPU and set my MSI center Extreme performance and set the core clock and VRAM boosted by +200mhz.

With this setup, I played Cyberpunk on ultra settings 1080p. hitting >=70 average frames with 58-60 1% lows. and the CPU is holding the max boost of 4099MhZ at an average of 70-80C (spikes to 89-91 max). and the GPU is amazing at 56C even with that overclock. Can't ask for more than that so why push power limits more?

Start Citizen also on max settings runs fantastic, can't complain for my use case. After a year we'll see i may remove that factory seal and swap out the thermal paste but for now, that specific cooler although expensive, was a legit game changer.

Be warned, the laptop cooler is very load but if you wear headphones while gaming it should not make a difference. What about you @nesi156a02d2 ?

 

[nesi156a02d2]

I am sorry @pacheco.phili151502d4 I actually still don't have my Laptop Cooler!

Ok well I am also a bit frustrated... Its been 2 extra days since their maximum delivery date. I am going to start the refund progress if it doesn't arrive by tomorrow.
This is why you don't buy from sellers lower than 90% positive feed back (mine was 81%).
Lesson learned I guess.
Sorry to keep you guys waiting. If my package is lost or whatever... I will definitely still get one eventually just not from this seller!

 

[nesi156a02d2]

Glad the cooler is working for you. 3-7c is pretty impressive. Anyway hopefully mine will arrive soon so I can test it on my system.
90%+ of the time the noise wont be a problem for me. I will either turn it off when I am just browsing, or most of the time I use a comfy headphones.
Love your graphs btw!
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OFF TOPIC:
I can share with you my optimized settings for Cyberpunk 2077.
BTW this was a real eye opener: You can just look up some optimization settings on YouTube (or internet forums) for pretty much any game you can gain like 25%-50% fps performance for only 0% to 10% (subjective) visual lost.
I knew this was a thing, but never bothered following a guide to try squeezing every last FPS while trying to keep the game looking as pretty as possible.
Highly recommend exploring this optimization thing! I am getting almost 100 fps in Cyberpunk! Where before on Ultra it was like ~70fps if I remember correctly).
I know you were probably just benchmarking but... Ultra settings in most games is just silly!
I will later edit this and share some links and/or my settings. If you guys are interested.

 

[amzuk.leina158702e0]

nice. Thanks for sharing the pics. The TDP maintaining at 83-85watts is good; means that it reached a point of stability temp/power. Be curious to see if it was the undervolt or the repaste that gave the most gains.

did u you re apply that thermal pad gum on the surrounding chips or left it as is? I think the product is "K5 Pro"

also, if you want even more cooling.I have the iets gt500 which dropped my temps by 5-10c on max fans. (Noisy but i’m on headphones so who cares).

can you post cinebench C23 multicore tests (temps max temps avg, avg power,score, and avg clock?)

Depending on gains i may repaste myself. Earlier than planned.

 

[amzuk.leina158702e0]

nice. Thanks for sharing the pics. The TDP maintaining at 83-85watts is good; means that it reached a point of stability temp/power. Be curious to see if it was the undervolt or the repaste that gave the most gains.

did u you re apply that thermal pad gum on the surrounding chips or left it as is? I think the product is "K5 Pro"

also, if you want even more cooling.I have the iets gt500 which dropped my temps by 5-10c on max fans. (Noisy but i’m on headphones so who cares).

can you post cinebench C23 multicore tests (temps max temps avg, avg power,score, and avg clock?)

Depending on gains i may repaste myself. Earlier than planned.

Nope, i didnt put there thermal pad gum, but there were some kind of these stuff to hold their hybrid liquid paste there (i removed it). Im sorry i didnt took a photo. Second thing is that i saw it first time, that heatsink is just that size as is cpu die, as evelated from other part of cooper heatsink. Around 1mm height. I can put all volatages to default and do some tests for you if you interested. Next thing i put p core to -100mv and now im on stable 83-85w TPD on full load. I hope it will be stable . I need it.

 

[amzuk.leina158702e0]

For anybody who is interested in this topic. Some my results in other thread. https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/ge76-cpu-12th-gen-temperatures.372394/post-2115309

 

[jodyvanwijk815d202ef]

Hi Everyone,

Last week my new GE76 Laptop arrived. It is the version with the I9 12900HK, 32GB ram en 3070ti version.
I want to undervolt the CPU, as it is running quite hot during gameplay. (90 to 98 degrees with full blown fans)

I tried with Intel XTU to undervolt the cpu.. sadly the options are all greyed out apart from the TDP options.
Also tried to enable XTU in the Bios, but could not find the option in the advance menu.


I would like to ask for help on how to undervolt/improve the temperature on my CPU.

with Kinds regards,

Jody

 

[amzuk.leina158702e0]

Hi Everyone,

Last week my new GE76 Laptop arrived. It is the version with the I9 12900HK, 32GB ram en 3070ti version.
I want to undervolt the CPU, as it is running quite hot during gameplay. (90 to 98 degrees with full blown fans)

I tried with Intel XTU to undervolt the cpu.. sadly the options are all greyed out apart from the TDP options.
Also tried to enable XTU in the Bios, but could not find the option in the advance menu.


I would like to ask for help on how to undervolt/improve the temperature on my CPU.

with Kinds regards,

Jody

undervolting is possible just through bios. right ctrl + right shift + left alt + f2 unlock secret menu, advanced menu, overclocking menu. Enable it a than you can got to P-Core, E-Core, Ring (Cache) menu. My stable result -115mv p-core, -50mv e-core, -47mv for ring. stability testing through XTU stress test and same time prime 95 smallest files for 10-15minutes, than cinebench r23 for 10minutes for single and multi too. if you will pass this scenario, you are 95% stable for sure (other 5% is game play). Please share with us result from cinebench if you can. I have GE66 version.

 

[jodyvanwijk815d202ef]

undervolting is possible just through bios. right ctrl + right shift + left alt + f2 unlock secret menu, advanced menu, overclocking menu. Enable it a than you can got to P-Core, E-Core, Ring (Cache) menu. My stable result -115mv p-core, -50mv e-core, -47mv for ring. stability testing through XTU stress test and same time prime 95 smallest files for 10-15minutes, than cinebench r23 for 10minutes for single and multi too. if you will pass this scenario, you are 95% stable for sure (other 5% is game play). Please share with us result from cinebench if you can. I have GE66 version.

Dear Amzuk,

Thank you for your reply! I will try this out tonight when I get home from work, and will post the results here!

 

[amzuk.leina158702e0]

Dear Amzuk,

Thank you for your reply! I will try this out tonight when I get home from work, and will post the results here!

my recomendation, start with -50mv for all, if you will pass described scenario add 5mv more, till BSOD. As you can see, problem will start with e-core or ring (in my case), so keep p-core and choose e-core or ring, go for 5mv on choosen option and retest, if BSOD switch second option and first put back, if again BSOD, put both e-core and ring to 5mv less. restest. If stable, go up with just p-core till bsod, but rise step to 10mv. If bsod go less by 5mv ech round. It will take lot of testing i know, but this is good approach to reach stable undervolting setup for you CPU . Good luck and share with results of course.

 

[jodyvanwijk815d202ef]

I did my first test with p core on -50 e core on -55 and ring -50. For now all stable, will continue the following days with more undervolting and testing.
It is quite time consuming, but worth it

Other question, should I change the TDP values? Mine are set in XTU out of the box @ 200.00 Watts... not sure if this is correct.

 

[amzuk.leina158702e0]

I did my first test with p core on -50 e core on -55 and ring -50. For now all stable, will continue the following days with more undervolting and testing.
It is quite time consuming, but worth it

Other question, should I change the TDP values? Mine are set in XTU out of the box @ 200.00 Watts... not sure if this is correct.View attachment 157892

It depends on for what you will use your laptop. If you need max performance and you dont care about fans noise, dont change anything. With undervolting on this cpu, you will get more performance.
If you will play just some games and do some browsing and you want quiet laptop, change TDP pl1 65w and pl2 70 or pl1 70 and pl2 75. Play with this through xtu app, but final setup set in bios. Everything will be on one place .

 

[amzuk.leina158702e0]

I did my first test with p core on -50 e core on -55 and ring -50. For now all stable, will continue the following days with more undervolting and testing.
It is quite time consuming, but worth it

Other question, should I change the TDP values? Mine are set in XTU out of the box @ 200.00 Watts... not sure if this is correct.View attachment 157892

I run cinebench r23 today, to compare normal voltage and with undervolted version. I started with normal amd multiple score was 17700 and undervolted setup brought 19145. Two days ago it was 18500 points. In both cases laptop run 2 hours minimum on basic work, so i dont know what changed in normal conditions. Maybe lower room temp .

Single core is almost the same. Interesting is that normal voltage hit bigger frequency, but less time, and undervolting less frequency but bigger window. Next days ill take a look on frequences on 1-2 core load, but i have to study at first. Too many options and want pick the best approach for laptop.

 

[jodyvanwijk815d202ef]

I run cinebench r23 today, to compare normal voltage and with undervolted version. I started with normal amd multiple score was 17700 and undervolted setup brought 19145. Two days ago it was 18500 points. In both cases laptop run 2 hours minimum on basic work, so i dont know what changed in normal conditions. Maybe lower room temp .

Single core is almost the same. Interesting is that normal voltage hit bigger frequency, but less time, and undervolting less frequency but bigger window. Next days ill take a look on frequences on 1-2 core load, but i have to study at first. Too many options and want pick the best approach for laptop.

Atm my cinebench multi scores are at 16883. (Started with 16571), going to continue the undervolt settings tonight.
P is on -70mVolt e and ring are on -60 mVolt right now.
No BSOD yet, just that in XTU when the stress tests start. Thermalthrottle is almost 99% active.

 

[amzuk.leina158702e0]

Atm my cinebench multi scores are at 16883. (Started with 16571), going to continue the undervolt settings tonight.
P is on -70mVolt e and ring are on -60 mVolt right now.
No BSOD yet, just that in XTU when the stress tests start. Thermalthrottle is almost 99% active.

And thrermalthrottle will be on 99%, till you will set lower cpu tdp. Nice results, g76 has better cooling for sure, on mine g66 i has results between 15600 - 16300 max on default phase change liquid pad.

 

[jodyvanwijk815d202ef]

And thrermalthrottle will be on 99%, till you will set lower cpu tdp. Nice results, g76 has better cooling for sure, on mine g66 i has results between 15600 - 16300 max on default phase change liquid pad.

Amzuk, thank you for your reply.
Pretty happy that results are consistent with your laptop.

Also a big thanks for helping me understand on how to undervolt for a first time.

This morning I lowered the TDP to 70 75 and the heat was lower. ( 85 to 92 degrees celcius)

When I get home tonight, I will continue the undervolt process and see how low we can get with a stable system

Again thank you!