Agesa 1.2.0.8

[Alan J T]

Or maybe I am wrong

Yes very very Wrong
I would not use 1.2.0.7 or 1.2.0.5 as it reduced OC potential so stayed on 1.2.0.6

1.2.0.8 is An improvement and gives a better OC setting for my 5900 than any other BIOS release

and they seem to be cooking up some ultra mega imba BIOS update that will be worth the time.

Yep they sure did I'm happy with it and was worth the wait for them to tweak it for better performance

 

[burak0erdoga15da02e7]

Any performance increase after the update?

 

[mzakrzewsk157402df]

I installed the latest AGESA 1.2.0.8 Beta firmware for my MPG B550 Gaming Carbon WiFi a few days back and I must say that it struck me as a monstruous cock-up.
USB devices kept reinstalling of their own accord every time (!) I rebooted the PC, and when I tried to install a new driver for my GPU (ASUS Dual GeForce RTX™ 3050 OC Edition 8 GB GDDR6), I would invariably get a BSOD. Component temperatures also rose (or so the readings indicated).
I've since gone back to 1.2.0.7, which was working faultlessly for months.
Looks like MSI have a lot of work on their hands to get this *cough, cough* stable ...

 

[Alan J T]

Any performance increase after the update?

Yep about 1000 points more in Cinabench R23

 

[Alan J T]

I installed the latest AGESA 1.2.0.8 Beta firmware for my MPG B550 Gaming Carbon WiFi a few days back and I must say that it struck me as a monstruous cock-up.
USB devices kept reinstalling of their own accord every time (!) I rebooted the PC, and when I tried to install a new driver for my GPU (ASUS Dual GeForce RTX™ 3050 OC Edition 8 GB GDDR6), I would invariably get a BSOD. Component temperatures also rose (or so the readings indicated).
I've since gone back to 1.2.0.7, which was working faultlessly for months.
Looks like MSI have a lot of work on their hands to get this *cough, cough* stable ...

I had problems with 1.2.0.7 and went back to 1.2.0.6 but find 1.2.0.8 to be better for my Config

 

[mlt]

I have a X570 Unify motherboard and after updating from 1.2.0.7 to 1.2.0.8. (7C35vAF1 Beta version) I'm seeing a significant loss of performance in 3DMark Time Spy benchmark:

Graphics score 34 636 -> 31 137 (-10%)
CPU score 14 204 -> 13 757 (-3.1%)

Ran it multiple times and double checked that all bios settings match. Anyone else experienced the same?

 

[Alan J T]

I have a X570 Unify motherboard and after updating from 1.2.0.7 to 1.2.0.8. (7C35vAF1 Beta version) I'm seeing a significant loss of performance in 3DMark Time Spy benchmark:

Graphics score 34 636 -> 31 137 (-10%)
CPU score 14 204 -> 13 757 (-3.1%)

Ran it multiple times and double checked that all bios settings match. Anyone else experienced the same?

Make sure both Rebar and Above 4G are enabled in the bios
The new Default Bios setting enables Rebar on mine but not Above 4G make sure it is enabled or Rebar wont work.

 

[mlt]

Make sure both Rebar and Above 4G are enabled in the bios
The new Default Bios setting enables Rebar on mine but not Above 4G make sure it is enabled or Rebar wont work.

Both are enabled, I triple checked that all settings are identical (I screenshotted all settings before updating bios).

Here are some screenshots of the results and the bios settings:

http://imgur.com/a/wBmN4Hn

Strangely the Cinebench results is pretty much identical but time spy loss on GPU is massive.

 

[Alan J T]

Both are enabled, I triple checked that all settings are identical (I screenshotted all settings before updating bios).

Here are some screenshots of the results and the bios settings:

http://imgur.com/a/wBmN4Hn

Strangely the Cinebench results is pretty much identical but time spy loss on GPU is massive.

I had only checked CPU performance so just ran a test with my OC setting loaded for GPU both have the same OC setting
CPU had Setting done in BIOS and are Identical for each version

CPU is improved by 4% and GPU is in margin of error

 

[Alan J T]

Can you Enable the Hightlighted ones to see if it helps

 

[mlt]

Can you Enable the Hightlighted ones to see if it helps

Thanks, enabled those but the benchmark result is still the same
I could try to install the previous bios driver tonight to make sure it's the bios causing this. I've never downgraded a bios before but googled it should work with the same M-flash process as upgrading it?

 

[Alan J T]

Thanks, enabled those but the benchmark result is still the same
I could try to install the previous bios driver tonight to make sure it's the bios causing this. I've never downgraded a bios before but googled it should work with the same M-flash process as upgrading it?

Yes, Downgrading is the same as updating the bios I have gone back to previous bios several times.

 

[vagues]

would also like to know since 1.2.0.8 brings important security patches

https://www.amd.com/en/corporate/product-security/bulletin/amd-sb-1029

https://www.amd.com/en/corporate/product-security/bulletin/amd-sb-1031

 

[mlt]

Funny thing, just days after upgrading, there now seems to be a non-beta bios version (7C35vAF) in the unify support page, even though the release date says 2023-03-03, it was not there few days ago. I might give that a shot first to see if it makes any difference.

EDIT: tried the 7C35vAF (non beta), still decreased performance. Will try the previous 7C35vAE with AGESA 1.2.0.7 next to fully confirm this is a bios issue and nothing else.

 

[AuraWind]

I have a X570 Unify motherboard and after updating from 1.2.0.7 to 1.2.0.8. (7C35vAF1 Beta version) I'm seeing a significant loss of performance in 3DMark Time Spy benchmark:

Graphics score 34 636 -> 31 137 (-10%)
CPU score 14 204 -> 13 757 (-3.1%)

Ran it multiple times and double checked that all bios settings match. Anyone else experienced the same?

I'm also seeing some pretty major performance hits on my Unify X570 using 3DMark's Time Spy. Huge GPU losses even though I have all the same BIOS settings as before.

Left side is BIOS 7C35vAE with AGESA 1.2.0.7 on 03/10/2023
Right side is BIOS 7C35vAF with AGESA 1.2.0.8 on 03/14/2023

 

[AuraWind]

I'm also seeing some pretty major performance hits on my Unify X570 using 3DMark's Time Spy. Huge GPU losses even though I have all the same BIOS settings as before.

Left side is BIOS 7C35vAE with AGESA 1.2.0.7 on 03/10/2023
Right side is BIOS 7C35vAF with AGESA 1.2.0.8 on 03/14/2023
View attachment 170204

Turns out I was wrong and this was not the result of a BIOS upgrade. I forgot that I had turned on one of Windows Security features and that is what caused this huge drop in performance. I've attached a screenshot of the feature that caused the issues.

After I turned it off, my Time Spy scores were back to what I was expecting.

 

[mlt]

So after testing three bios versions today, I can confirm that the Time Spy loss of performance is related to the Agesa 1.2.0.8 versions on my X570 Unify system.

All these benchmarks are done using exactly the same bios settings today:

On Blender benchmark the difference is minimal, but can be still seen (ran it multiple times on both versions).

 

[Alan J T]

Is Memory Integrity off as I make sure to all ways turn it off as it causes to many OC problems

 

[gkozdro15c902dc]

MPG B550 GAMING EDGE WIFI - updated to AGESA ComboAm4v2PI 1.2.0.8. - 7C91v1C
5600x - cpu-z bench - run down the hill from ~5200 to ~4900 score (multi) - OC +200mhz, -20 calibration.
time spy - 3080 - from 19000 to ~18000.
It has nothing to do with OS (windows - checked).

Updating to the last MSI BIOS/UEFI is a BIG MISTAKE !!!

edit: Also - unable to flash UEFI/BIOS when onboard is plugged NVME formatted as TRUE 4KN. Flashing is entering from uefi to easy flash-mode, then -> black screen forever. Only by removing that nvme drive from MSI motherboard, updating process is able to work correctly. There is NO option in UEFI to disable/skipping reading/checking from that nvme drive during scanning by update process of the connected drives (usb, hdd, ssd). For now, nvme formatted as true 4KN is too much for MSI updating process.
It is crazy, but true. Sabrent Rocket 4.0 1TB.

 

[Alan J T]

MPG B550 GAMING EDGE WIFI - updated to AGESA ComboAm4v2PI 1.2.0.8. - 7C91v1C
5600x - cpu-z bench - run down the hill from ~5200 to ~4900 score (multi) - OC +200mhz, -20 calibration.
time spy - 3080 - from 19000 to ~18000.
It has nothing to do with OS (windows - checked).

Updating to the last MSI BIOS/UEFI is a BIG MISTAKE !!!

edit: Also - unable to flash UEFI/BIOS when onboard is plugged NVME formatted as TRUE 4KN. Flashing is entering from uefi to easy flash-mode, then -> black screen forever. Only by removing that nvme drive from MSI motherboard, updating process is able to work correctly. There is NO option in UEFI to disable/skipping reading/checking from that nvme drive during scanning by update process of the connected drives (usb, hdd, ssd). For now, nvme formatted as true 4KN is too much for MSI updating process.
It is crazy, but true. Sabrent Rocket 4.0 1TB.

Chaeck VBS setting in bios

Tested: Default Windows VBS Setting Slows Games Up to 10%, Even on RTX 4090

Virtualization Based Security (VBS) has a big impact on frame rates.

www.tomshardware.com