"All settings were reset to default values." Message

[legaianlight]

Hello again!  I was unsure where to put this, so i settled on the MOBO Forum.

Today, when I went to boot up my computer, I got, roughly, the following message:

"All settings were reset to default values.  The previous overclock settings have failed, system has been restored to its default settings."

Then it gives some options as to what to do.  I tried all the options, finally getting my computer to get past the above message by telling it to "Press F2 to load default values and continue."

After doing that, I tried re-overclocking the computer just to see if it was some sort of glitch, and whenever I do so (I used the following link as my guide: https://www.msi.com/blog/intel-9th-cpu-overclocking-5ghz-with-z390-motherboards ), I get the same "All settings were reset" message and have to press F2 to get things working again.

Additionally, and perhaps related, now my computer takes much longer to start up.  It almost seems as if it is waiting for my keyboard to connect, which seems weird as it is a wired keyboard and I've never had it take so long for the keyboard to light up and become functional before.

Here's a list of my components: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/MetalLight/saved/#view=XLXD23

I did try flashing the bios once i got things working, but still, the problem persists.

 

[rb_leroy]

Hello,
The CPU OC is clearly bad! Is XMP enabled for RAM (3200MHz)?
1/ Do a clear CMOS:
- Power off PSU, unplug the power cord and wait that all mobo's leds light off.
- Keep the upper button on the back panel pressed during at least 20s.
- Plug the power cord and power on.
Choose to enter in bios setup when asked. Enable "SETTINGS \ Advanced \ Windows OS Configuration \ Windows 10 WHQL Support" and "OC \ XMP"; change nothing else at this time.
Try to see if message raises again.
2/ If it does, do again #1 but after use >>MemTest86<< to verify RAM stability: at least 3 passes of full tests. Abort if there is error.
Hoping it shal help,

 

[Chike]

Even when overclocking fails you should be able to get back into bios.

Clear cmos and see that pc boots normally.

Clear CMOS button - Power off your computer. Press and hold the Clear CMOS button for about 5-10 seconds to reset BIOS to default values.

What are you trying to achive?
Make changes one at a time, save known good settings to oc profile, you can easily restored.

Make our lives easier and put your system specs in your forum signature >>Posting Guide<<

 

[legaianlight]

Hello,
The CPU OC is clearly bad! Is XMP enabled for RAM (3200MHz)?
1/ Do a clear CMOS:
- Power off PSU, unplug the power cord and wait that all mobo's leds light off.
- Keep the upper button on the back panel pressed during at least 20s.
- Plug the power cord and power on.
Choose to enter in bios setup when asked. Enable "SETTINGS \ Advanced \ Windows OS Configuration \ Windows 10 WHQL Support" and "OC \ XMP"; change nothing else at this time.
Try to see if message raises again.
2/ If it does, do again #1 but after use >>MemTest86<< to verify RAM stability: at least 3 passes of full tests. Abort if there is error.
Hoping it shal help,

I do not believe XMP was enabled.  I followed your instructions (as well as those of Chike) to clear CMOS.  I don't know if I made this clear in my initial post, but after using the F2 Option to reset everything to defaults, I was able to get into the BIOS and, after that, run windows.  

My hope was to be able to overclock again, so things would be like they were before I got these errors.

Also, as per your instructions, I went to the "SETTINGS \ Advanced \ Windows OS Configuration \ Windows 10 WHQL Support", but was unsure what to change there, as I was offered the choice between CSM and UEFI.  Perhaps you meant for me to change the fastboot options?  Sorry, I'm a bit of a scrub when it comes to this stuff.  I did turn on XMP this time though.  

Even when overclocking fails you should be able to get back into bios. Clear cmos and see that pc boots normally. What are you trying to achive? Make changes one at a time, save known good settings to oc profile, you can easily restored. Make our lives easier and put your system specs in your forum signature >>Posting Guide<<

I was able to get back into the BIOS (and, subsequently, windows) after pressing F2 to get things reset to default.  I cleared CMOS as per your instructions (as well as those of Rbleroy91).  

What I would like to do is to be able to overclock again so I can get the most out of my CPU.  However, after turning XMP back on after clearing CMOS, I get the same error.  To post it in it's entirety:

"All settings were reset to default values.
The previous overclock settings have failed, system has been restored to its default settings.
Press F1 to run setup.
Press F2 to load default values and continue.
Press DEL and wait for 5 seconds to enter BIOS setup or press F1/F2 to enter BIOS setup immediately."

Also, thank you for posting the guidelines.  I will try to adhere to them better.

 

[Chike]

So even just enabling xmp cause this error?

Which model is the ram F4-3200C16D-32GVK or F4-3200C16D-32GVKA?
On the qvl there is F4-3200C16D-32GVR, so I assume at leat the F4-3200C16D-32GVK should be compatible.

Please post a screen capture of HWiNFO, with the default settings, if possible under some load (like prime95, no avx, large fft).
In particular I am looking for the motherboard and cpu voltages.

 

[legaianlight]

So even just enabling xmp cause this error? Which model is the ram F4-3200C16D-32GVK or F4-3200C16D-32GVKA? On the qvl there is F4-3200C16D-32GVR, so I assume at leat the F4-3200C16D-32GVK should be compatible. Please post a screen capture of HWiNFO, with the default settings, if possible under some load (like prime95, no avx, large fft). In particular I am looking for the motherboard and cpu voltages.

Just double checked, as the first time I enabled XMP, I may have unintentionally changed some of the other settings.  the problem does indeed occur after just enabling XMP.

I have the F4-3200C16D-32GVK.  

Attached you will find the HWINFO picture.  Please let me know if I didn't capture the correct information or if you need it under even more of a load.

Edit: Also, since I didnt mention it before, I've had this setup since early August with no major problems, other than some lighting issues initially.  The overclocking seemed to work fine until I turned it on today.

 

[Chike]

The sensors window, sorry i was not clear.

You can expand the window by clicking the out arrow on the bottom left if you cannot fit all the cpu and motherboard voltages in one screen.
like so, differet names of course:

They may not be as close to each other as mine, I just hide sensors I don't care about.

 

[legaianlight]

Ah, sorry about that.  Thanks for your help, by the way.

I found the sensors window, but when I tried to put multiple sensors on one page with the button you mentioned, sometimes the data would go off screen, making it difficult to capture everything you wanted in one go.  As such, I took 6 different pictures to hopefully get you the information you were asking for.

 

[Chike]

Lets try xmp with a few modification.
Go to oc section and change to expert mode.
Select xmp profile, and manually select 3000mhz for memory frequency.
Change vccio and vccsa from auto to their default values shown on the left.
Save and reboot. If no failed overclock message, change memory frequency to auto and try again.
If any of the above fail, press F1 and increase vccio and vvcsa a notch, 0.005v to 0.01v at a time. For  now don't go over 1.1v for either of them though I saw cases people use over 1.2v.

I think that with F1 bios changes should remain intact even it booted with default values, not sure,

 

[legaianlight]

Lets try xmp with a few modification. Go to oc section and change to expert mode. Select xmp profile, and manually select 3000mhz for memory frequency. Change vccio and vccsa from auto to their default values shown on the left. Save and reboot. If no failed overclock message, change memory frequency to auto and try again. If any of the above fail, press F1 and increase vccio and vvcsa a notch, 0.005v to 0.01v at a time. For not don't go over 1.1v for either of them though I saw cases people use over 1.2v. I think that with F1 bios changes should remain intact even it booted with default values, not sure,

 Just to verify, I:
1) Enabled Extreme Memory Profile.
2) Changed DRAM Frequency to DDR4-3000 (30x100.00x1.00)
3) Changed CPU SA Voltage to 1.050 (tried to do 1.058, which is the voltage listed to the left, but it auto-converted to 1.050)
4) Changed CPU IO Voltage to 0.950 (Tried to do 0.958, which is the voltage listed to the left, but it auto-converted to 0.950)

Upon applying these changes, I still got the "All settings were reset" message.  As per your instructions, I increased both by .01v at a time (i tried the .005v, but i guess it was too small an increment as it kept auto-converting the fraction to 0).  It took a while, but I eventually kept trying til both values met your cap of 1.1v, but every iteration met with the same "All settings" message

Perhaps i was changing incorrect values?

 

[Chike]

Perhaps i was changing incorrect values?

I don't think so. There is definitely a problem with memory overclock just need to find what it is.
Try with just one memory module, once in dimma2 and then the other in dimmb2 see if you can overclock any of them.
Try with just xmp profile no other changes.

 

[legaianlight]

Apologies for the long delay in my response.  Work has been crazy D: .

As such, I just got around to trying the individual memory modules in the dimma2 and dimmb2.  I tried both modules individually in both slots, and when I try to use XMP, I get the same message as I wrote in about.  I also tried both at the same time in the dimma1/dimmb1 slots, but I got a message that those slots were not optimized.

Just to share my thoughts, when I was trying to re-overclock after I started getting this error, I don't *believe* I was messing with the memory overclocking.  Now as I mentioned before, I'm a bit of a scrub when it comes to this stuff, so I may have been messing with the memory without realizing it, but I just wanted to make y'all aware of this.

Also, as I think i mentioned earlier, my computer boots up much slower now, much slower than one would expect just from losing the ability to overclock.  It's almost as if it's waiting for my keyboard to become recognized, but I'm not 100% sure what the deal is.  

Thanks for all your help so far, especially you, Chike.

 

[Chike]

So enabling xmp give the failed overclock message in any slot with either of the modules?

Can you check CPU-Z  spd tab, to see who is the dram manufacturer?

Now it is booting slow even with default settings?

 

[legaianlight]

So enabling xmp give the failed overclock message in any slot with either of the modules?

Can you check CPU-Z  spd tab, to see who is the dram manufacturer?

Now it is booting slow even with default settings?

More or less.  I tried the individual modules ind a2 and b2 by themselves, but since it told me the slots werent optimized, I only tried both modules once in A1 B1 together once, and then I did not try overclocking since I got the "unoptimized" message.

Checking in CPU-Z, I show that G.skill was the module manu, and that SK Hynix was the dram manu.

And yes, ever since I started getting this message (The "all settings were reset" one), It takes about 30 seconds to reach the screen where you can opt to enter the bios, and it takes about 30 more seconds to get to the screen where you get to select which disc you want to boot from, whereas it used to take about 20 seconds from the time I pressed the power button til I could enter my password and login. After that, it's pretty fast.  But like I said, it's almost as if the keyboard is taking a long time to be recognized, and therefore the computer is waiting for it to be recognized so that I can use it to, for example, press DEL to enter the bios.

 

[Chike]

It was the sk hynix i was after, that mean it's the same module in the qvl F4-3200C16D-32GVR.

Can you still return the board for a replacement, that what I would do next.

 

[legaianlight]

Okay, thank you so much for all your help!!  <3

I'll see if there's anything I can do in that regard.

Should I take that to mean that you believe it is indeed something to do with the Mobo itself, and not the RAM now?

 

[Chike]

If the ram is on the qvl, and you tested each module individually, it's more likely to the the motherboard.
Still can be the memory or cpu itself.

 

[melvin.p]

Digging this one out as I have a quite similar gear (https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Melvin.p/saved/#view=RhsK3C) and yesterday, "out of nowhere", I ran into the exact same issue as you did : "all settings were reset to default - the previous overclock settings have failed, system has been restored to its default settings".

I was simply doing some photoshop stuff, when I noticed that my Sennheiser GSX-1000 was turned off. Happened a few times before, usually a simple restart would do the trick (oddly, when unplugging/pluging it back it didnt work). So, I did the restart and ran into the issue stated above - so nothing fancy done previously. 

I have been using this gear for a bit more than 1 year now (almost every day, for working/developing/intensive gaming as well). 
The bios had been updated to 7B10v14 at the time and XMP was activated since then : and then I never really came back to the bios settings, except a few months later to play w/ the UEFI settings and the boot priorities to allow a dual boot through grub (to switch between Win10/Linux).

On top of the issue mentioned above, my boot became much slower to reach the splash screen, just like described by the OP here.

I then : 
- deactivated / reactivated the fastboot option (not the MSI one, but the default one) : nothing changed (still same error message saying : "all settings were reset to default. etc."). 
- flashed the BIOS to the latest current version (7B10v14) : nothing changed. 
- deactivated the default XMP choices (3200Mhz, 16-18-18-38, 1.35V) to select a lower profile @3000Mhz : nothing changed
- same but with a profile @2600Mhz : nothing changed. 
- played with the voltage to increase it a bit : nothing changed. 
- Went back to my initial profile, but I simply deactivated the XMP : it worked...

So grub got correctly initialized, but then the memory was running at 2133MHz...
So it seemed like the slightest change on the memory settings was affecting the boot. And although I could reach grub and boot the OS, the initial boot was still very slow. 
Quite frustrating as for the last year everything was doing fine and booting quickly.  

I then fell on this post : https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/ram-suddenly-not-working-at-xmp-profile.18819263/ and realized I had not tried the reseat of the memory sticks as well -_-'...

So here we go, I reseated my 4 memory sticks (they already seemed very well tightly seated in their slots, you can feel that this godlike board wont let them escape easily...), changing them from slot (didnt pay too much attention here, I think I only changed 2 of them), and....voil?....the pc booted very quickly...it seemed like a good sign, so I directly entered the bios settings to activate the default XMP settings (3200Mhz, 1.35V) and well...it worked! 

My next steps were to turn to black magic run a memtest86, and then eventually order a new set of memory sticks from a different brand (at least to check/try quickly), but now that it seems ok (hopefully it will hold over time...) I kinda feel lazy about the this memory check. But yet...it seems odd to me, what do you guys think about that ? (any advice in case it happens again ?).

 

[patulli_lokoshan]

Today i did encounter pretty much the same issue:
Turned my Rig off to head to work. When i came home i got the same error massages ("... previous overclock settings failed..."), so i searched the problem on my phone, found this post, followed M3lvins reseat tactic (with the sticks switching places to be save) and the system started just fine, like nothing happend.