Are these 12900HK numbers acceptable?

[gusamas156002df]

Hello, friends. I bought the MSI GE66 Raider notebook in april, but only a couple of weeks ago I began gaming. Noticed right away how hot it was, but never minded. After a bit of research I found the temps on pic rel may not be ok. Ran some tests and tried undervolting in bios, but nothing changed.

I would really appreciate if anyone could shed some light. Thanks

 

[stormbody091150502d6]

Do you have any performance issues or other issues when the temperature is high?
If not, the temperature is ok. As I know, most gaming laptops would like to have the best performance. That is why the temperature will be that high.
If you are really aware of that, you can adjust the performance level to medium or low. Most of time, the temperature is related to performance.

 

[citay]

Which GE66 Raider do you have? They had many GE66 Raider over the years, that's just the model line, the actual model comes afterwards, like 12UHS.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/MSI-Raider-GE66-12UHS-notebook-review-Passes-with-flying-colors.626500.0.html

That's the system with your CPU, but a 3080 Ti.
"Temperatures in this scenario average 93 degrees Celsius on the CPU side, with maximum values running up to 100 degrees Celsius."

So it's not out of the ordinary for such a powerful system. You have the performance of a high-end desktop PC inside the space of a notebook, so of course the temperatures can become very high under sustained full load. That comes with the territory. When you buy a Ferrari with a V12 engine, that also has a huge fuel consumption when you use full power.

 

[gusamas156002df]

Do you have any performance issues or other issues when the temperature is high?
If not, the temperature is ok. As I know, most gaming laptops would like to have the best performance. That is why the temperature will be that high.
If you are really aware of that, you can adjust the performance level to medium or low. Most of time, the temperature is related to performance.

Performance is ok. I recently played some AAA games on Ultra and get a good performance. The only issue is the temperature, it gets quite hot, hands get sweaty and I need to swipe the keyboard with a cloth.

Which GE66 Raider do you have? They had many GE66 Raider over the years, that's just the model line, the actual model comes afterwards, like 12UHS.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/MSI-Raider-GE66-12UHS-notebook-review-Passes-with-flying-colors.626500.0.html

That's the system with your CPU, but a 3080 Ti.
"Temperatures in this scenario average 93 degrees Celsius on the CPU side, with maximum values running up to 100 degrees Celsius."

So it's not out of the ordinary for such a powerful system. You have the performance of a high-end desktop PC inside the space of a notebook, so of course the temperatures can become very high under sustained full load. That comes with the territory. When you buy a Ferrari with a V12 engine, that also has a huge fuel consumption when you use full power.

Mine is GE66 UGS. I understand what you mean, but wouldn't undervolting decrease temps a bit (while keeping good performance)? Maybe things changed since I had my first gaming notebook in 2013 and high temps don't affect components that much. Thanks for the input.

 

[citay]

Here is a test of the UGS: https://www.notebookcheck.net/MSI-S...-review-Powerful-enough-for-QHD.600819.0.html

Scroll down a bit from here and look at the two screenshots under "Temperature", you will see very high CPU temperatures, and they only have the model with the 12700H.
So i would say that, sadly, this is normal for such a high-end configuration.

What's happening when you undervolt might be something else. A lot of these gaming notebooks in default mode can't sustain their highest boost clocks for very long, so after a while, they start to clock down or throttle to prevent overheating. When you undervolt, you might allow the CPU to clock higher for longer, because you have reduced the power draw (and thus heat production) for a given boost frequency, but now the higher clocks might cause the same power draw again and you might run into the same temperature limit.

Modern CPUs use quite advanced methods to determine how high they can clock for how long, it mostly has to do with the power draw and the temperatures. When you can't use full CPU power all the time to begin with, because the cooling would be overwhelmed, then you can have unforeseen effects when you undervolt, for example slightly better performance, but the same temperature problems. So in that case, you would have to pair an undervolt with setting lower power limits for the CPU in the BIOS, if that is possible there. Then you can lower those high temperatures.

 

[stormbody091150502d6]

If you still want to undervolt it, the easiest way is to adjust the User scenario setting from MSI Center.
User Scenario->Switch to "User" mode->Switch "performance level" to medium or low.
You also can adjust the game setting to a low or medium to reduce the laptop workload.

 

[gusamas156002df]

If you still want to undervolt it, the easiest way is to adjust the User scenario setting from MSI Center.
User Scenario->Switch to "User" mode->Switch "performance level" to medium or low.
You also can adjust the game setting to a low or medium to reduce the laptop workload.

Thanks. I might try soon to undervolt if temps really start to bother. By the way, when I clock User Scenario I can't find what you said in your instructions.

 

[stormbody091150502d6]

You can find this information from the maunal (Page22).

https://download.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/nb/Notebook-MSI-Center-User-Guide.pdf

 

[darkhawk]

Long story short, you're stuffing a very high performance CPU (and GPU, even if it is a 3070 or 3070 Ti) into an even smaller package with the GE66. It's a 15.6" notebook. So even more confined spaces, making it even more difficult with less surface area to get that heat away from the CPU.
I've got an 11th gen GE66, and my temps don't peak higher than low 90's, but I've also got a forced air setup for my notebook (custom setup with fans constantly blowing air into the bottom of the notebook, even in idle, externally) so that tends to help a bit.

Basically, small space, high performance, and not an easy way to get the heat out, so this is going to happen. Pretty common with most smaller and light notebook like this with high performance parts.

 

[stormbody091150502d6]

I check my MSI Center and I do not have user mode setting.
Or you can switch to Silent mode or Super battery mode to reduce the performance.
You also can switch the game setting to reduce the laptop workload or activate cooler bosst.