B660 mortar max ddr4 wi-fi bus overclocking not working on 13th gen intel

[Saikou]

When trying to overclock on the i5 13600kf bus, the system does not boot and shows a black screen. When will msi fix this?

AMI BIOS
7D97v12
2022-11-09

 

[citay]

I can only guess what's going on, but for BCLK OC on this board, try leaving XMP disabled, then first increase the BCLK to a couple MHz higher. Because this will most likely change the reference frequency for the RAM. Then set DRAM Frequency/Voltage manually to what your RAM kit needs, as close as you can get on the frequency. Then press F10 to save and reboot, and give it a good couple of minutes to sort itself out.

But also, why do you want to BCLK OC a 13600KF? It has an unlimited multiplier. BCLK OC is for cheap non-K CPUs. Although looking at the higher price of the board...
With a -K CPU it's much easier to use the multipliers. I would've gotten the MSI MAG Z690M Mortar WIFI instead (similar price to your board) and do that, if you want to OC.

 

[Saikou]

I can only guess what's going on, but for BCLK OC on this board, try leaving XMP disabled, then first increase the BCLK to a couple MHz higher. Because this will most likely change the reference frequency for the RAM. Then set DRAM Frequency/Voltage manually to what your RAM kit needs, as close as you can get on the frequency. Then press F10 to save and reboot, and give it a good couple of minutes to sort itself out.

But also, why do you want to BCLK OC a 13600KF? It has an unlimited multiplier. BCLK OC is for cheap non-K CPUs. Although looking at the higher price of the board...
With a -K CPU it's much easier to use the multipliers. I would've gotten the MSI MAG Z690M Mortar WIFI instead (similar price to your board) and do that, if you want to OC.

I already tried overclocking without XMP, still the same. The motherboard came at a good price.

 

[darkhawk]

Probably because he can't change the multiplier.......B660's don't support changing the core multiplier. That would make the Z series boards pointless....

 

[Saikou]

Probably because he can't change the multiplier.......B660's don't support changing the core multiplier. That would make the Z series boards pointless....

This board has a clock generator that allows you to overclock processors without index K and with it.

 

[darkhawk]

This board has a clock generator that allows you to overclock processors without index K and with it.

I'm very well aware. But it does not allow you to change the multiplier of that clock.....which is why I said that. B660's don't allow you to change the multiplier like the Z690 series chipset does for the "K" SKU CPU's......
You can only BCLK overclock, which can cause plenty of other issues within the system, and only increases the likelihood of instability.

 

[citay]

B660's don't allow you to change the multiplier like the Z690 series chipset does for the "K" SKU CPU's......

True, that's why i added, "I would've gotten the MSI MAG Z690M Mortar WIFI instead (similar price to your board) and do that, if you want to OC."
But turns out he apparently got his board considerably cheaper than that, so ok.

You can only BCLK overclock, which can cause plenty of other issues within the system, and only increases the likelihood of instability.

Not with his specific board model, it has the Renesas RC26008 external clock generator which decouples the BCLK for OC use:

Anyway, if it's not working, i would open a ticket with MSI about it. Maybe they have some pointers for you or can reproduce it.

 

[Saikou]

I'm very well aware. But it does not allow you to change the multiplier of that clock.....which is why I said that. B660's don't allow you to change the multiplier like the Z690 series chipset does for the "K" SKU CPU's......
You can only BCLK overclock, which can cause plenty of other issues within the system, and only increases the likelihood of instability.

Are you kidding me? The board allows you to overclock the processor on the bus. It doesn't matter to me what is there in terms of stability and so on. I want to customize the system as much as the board allows me to.

 

[Saikou]

True, that's why i added, "I would've gotten the MSI MAG Z690M Mortar WIFI instead (similar price to your board) and do that, if you want to OC."
But turns out he apparently got his board considerably cheaper than that, so ok.



Not with his specific board model, it has the Renesas RC26008 external clock generator which decouples the BCLK for OC use:

Anyway, if it's not working, i would open a ticket with MSI about it. Maybe they have some pointers for you or can reproduce it.

Thank you.

I will try to ask a question msi

 

[Greed]

Thank you.

I will try to ask a question msi

Any response? I have the same issue. It seems the microcode gets reverted to apply the bclk overclock. Then the 13th gen chip is no longer supposed until a bios reset. The behavior after applying the overclock is identical to what I experienced prior to updating my bios with a 12 gen chip.

 

[plutomate]

iirc, with external clock gen on B660, max bclk can go up to 125 on 12th gen CPU and 102.9 on 13th gen CPU. but other settings remains untouched. Really, if you wanna overclock, just go with Z chipset motherboard.

Overclocking on B660 Of K-CPUs

Why is it that we can't overclock 12600k or any k variant cpu on a b660 motherboard? Is it a hardware limitation or a software limitation of a motherboard? Is there any way to do so? Please Explain.

linustechtips.com

 

[lwfeatherston157702db]

There is a special bios that enables the BLCK OC for 13th Gen K CPUs.

MSI's B660M Mortar MAX WIFI Pushes Intel's Core i5-13600K To An Impressive 5.8 GHz OC With Special BIOS

MSI has enabled BCLK overclocking on its MAG B660M Mortar MAX WIFI motherboard, hitting 5.8 GHz on the Intel Core i5-13600K CPU.

wccftech.com

However I had the following issues:

first m2 slot stopped working
ram wont train above 3600mhz

 

[Alan J T]

Are you kidding me? The board allows you to overclock the processor on the bus. It doesn't matter to me what is there in terms of stability and so on. I want to customize the system as much as the board allows me to.

Dang that there be old school Overclocking
And well it is a bit hit and misses some CPUs would clock an extra 30+Mhz and others would be lucky to get an extra 4Mhz to the base clock

 

[Saikou]

There is a special bios that enables the BLCK OC for 13th Gen K CPUs.

MSI's B660M Mortar MAX WIFI Pushes Intel's Core i5-13600K To An Impressive 5.8 GHz OC With Special BIOS

MSI has enabled BCLK overclocking on its MAG B660M Mortar MAX WIFI motherboard, hitting 5.8 GHz on the Intel Core i5-13600K CPU.

wccftech.com

However I had the following issues:

first m2 slot stopped working
ram wont train above 3600mhz

The netac nv7000 ssd does not work for me either in the first slot, but the exact same one works in the second.

 

[Alan J T]

The netac nv7000 ssd does not work for me either in the first slot, but the exact same one works in the second.

I would be cautious of that BIOS looks like a early test beta version and not officilay supplied by MSI so may contain Malicious Software.

MSI have updated the Bios page

 

[Saikou]

I would be cautious of that BIOS looks like a early test beta version and not officilay supplied by MSI so may contain Malicious Software.

MSI have updated the Bios page

View attachment 168590

I put 13 from the official site and nothing has changed.

 

[lwfeatherston157702db]

The netac nv7000 ssd does not work for me either in the first slot, but the exact same one works in the second.

Your SSD doesn’t work in m2–1. when using the “special bios” only? Or other versions also.

 

[Saikou]

Your SSD doesn’t work in m2–1. when using the “special bios” only? Or other versions also.

Only in a third-party BIOS, although it is visible in the second slot.