BETA BIOS Release for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors

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aoamchart date=1563807934 said:
The update for the X470 Gaming Pro Carbon just points to the same file on the server as the beta. If the update does exist, we can't download it right now.
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Not sure what happening, now the support page show that... it isnt a beta file anymore..  7B78v29 (x470 gaming pro carbon)
But same file as beta ?
 

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It's because they didn't upload anything new. It's the same exact 29M BIOS file as before, CRC32 and all.

I'm getting fairly frustrated at MSI at this point, and likely won't buy them again. We are sitting on a BIOS that is a month old at this point with substantial bugs such as the GPU PCI-E slot being stuck in 8x mode.
 

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23 days from BETA bios build data, and still no stable BIOS releases. It is, however, well known that nothing lasts longer than the temporary.
 

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koford date=1563822903 said:
Not sure what happening, now the support page show that... it isnt a beta file anymore..  7B78v29 (x470 gaming pro carbon)
But same file as beta ?
7B78v29 is new one
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Again, they did not upload the new file. If you download the 'latest' 7B78v29.zip file linked to on the website it's just the 29M beta.
 

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Looks like they updated the download finally.

Unfortunately, it's the same 7B78V290 that was floating around a week ago for the X470 Gaming Pro Carbon.

The most notable bug of the PCI-E 1 slot only operating in 8x mode is still present.
 

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I'm finding 7B78v290 to be even buggier than the beta. I set everything to exactly the same as I had in the beta, and my machine just wouldn't boot. Good times.
 

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lineage98 date=1563367139 said:
Hey just wanted to tell that I had the same issue and looks like the problem is in the cluster size of the flash drive. For whatever reason it's readable only with 32 block division. Format the drive and copy the BIOS file there and it should read it without issues. Got my CPU to work, but on the stable release of the BIOS, there are no overclocking options available for the CPU and any changes to the RAM except XMP profile crashes the system.
Same thing in the ryzen master and MSI control center even if its a 30 Mhz change. Did windows push some update or is this MSI doing? Or just something wrong with my system? Can anyone confirm?
pandaz date=1563429704 said:
Do you mean  your USB stick not detected in Flashback ??  note that flashback only support FAT32 and don't support NTFS
Thank you ! Even if the drive was formatted in FAT32, I just couldn't get it working. I just borrowed one and it worked fine.
 

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So I've gotten 3700x to post and boot into Windows on NVME ssd w/ BIOS v2.9o

was unable to do this w/ v.2.9m

also: had to remove one stick of RAM to clear debug LED to get it to POST.  Also initially had VGA debug led and had to power cycle a few times before it would POST.

there was some weirdness initially when it has been running in "Ultimate Performance" power-mode; a few random black screens, some freezing.  Maybe that's just teething issues. Went to Ryzen balanced mode and it seems more-stable

Would appreciate it if people report any success/problems they've had w/ the 2.9o BIOS and X470 GPC

I dont know if i'm experiencing the PCI x8 bug or not?> CPUID reports "link width = x8, Max supported = x16 "
 

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jfgilmore date=1563906662 said:
had to remove one stick of RAM to clear debug LED to get it to POST.
Speaking of which, has anyone else figured out how to run multiple DRAM sticks in v2.9o?  When i tried reinstalling the RAM it again refused to POST and just hung w/ Debug LED
 

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What is weird about the RAM issue is that I have a pair, and only one of the pair fails to POST. The other works just fine. So it's not a dual-channel thing.

I'm able to get around the issue by pulling the 'bad' stick (It ran just fine with the 2700x on my gaming pro carbon), booting, setting the XMP profile, turning the system off, and I put the 'bad' stick back in. The system then runs just fine.

It's this RAM issue, and the PCI-E 16x slot suck in 8x mode bug that are the most annoying right now on the X470 Gaming Pro Carbon.
 

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aoamchart date=1563914419 said:
What is weird about the RAM issue is that I have a pair, and only one of the pair fails to POST. The other works just fine. So it's not a dual-channel thing.

I'm able to get around the issue by pulling the 'bad' stick (It ran just fine with the 2700x on my gaming pro carbon), booting, setting the XMP profile, turning the system off, and I put the 'bad' stick back in. The system then runs just fine.

It's this RAM issue, and the PCI-E 16x slot suck in 8x mode bug that are the most annoying right now on the X470 Gaming Pro Carbon.
Yeah i just tried this (setting XMP profile first, then shutting down and installing second stick)

The CPU debug LED lights up and it doesn't post; not a DRAM warning, CPU led - which suggests to me there's some setting where dual channel memory isn't enabled for the processor by default? Idk where i'd find this.  I poked around the BIOS and didn't see anything relevant.

I don't think i have a 'bad stick' - tho i haven't tried swapping them out and running each by itself yet.  The LEDs above the memory slots both light up when they're installed, which i thought meant the individual sticks were ok.
 

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I never had a CPU warning light. It was only ever the RAM light that stayed on. Something is borked with your system, and I would see if a prior generation CPU still works.

Even with this beta 3000 series BIOS my 2700x ran lovely on it, it's only when having to run a 3000 series CPU that all the bugs happen.
 

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Where is the Gear-Mode option in the bios? I'm not seeing it and it would be nice to have so it wont round up on an odd number for the cas latency.
 

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aoamchart date=1563915675 said:
I never had a CPU warning light. It was only ever the RAM light that stayed on. Something is borked with your system, and I would see if a prior generation CPU still works.

Even with this beta 3000 series BIOS my 2700x ran lovely on it, it's only when having to run a 3000 series CPU that all the bugs happen.

I ran a 2600 fine with same RAM kit under BIOS v.2.8 and also the beta v2.9M

I've also tested both sticks (and booted with them) so there's nothing wrong w/ the kit.

The 3700x also posted fine with both sticks of RAM under 2.9M - it just didn't boot to Windows (which i think was a problem w/ NVME; not sure, it just gave me endless spinning windows wheel)

Under BIOS v2.9o, for whatever reason, the CPU refuses to post when there's 2 sticks of memory installed.  It gives CPU Debug LED warning and just sits there w/ power on but never POSTs.

I assume if the CPU was fine w/ 2 sticks in v2.9M (at least to POST with), its a BIOS problem and not a borked CPU memory controller

Assuming MSI is to blame here seems a safe bet.
 

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**addendum:

The CPU debug, it turns out, only lights up when XMP profile was active and 2 sticks of RAM were installed

When everything in BIOS was completely wiped and tried the same, the DRAM debug LED is indicated.

So i assume its just a kit of RAM that Matisse no like (*despite being on the early QVL list)
 

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near a month now and nothing for the x470 m7 ac bios, its a disgrace, ill be jumping ship asap, and wont touch msi again,

with such heat in my country and the voltages ramped high, instability and a not fully functioning bios, its just not acceptable.
 

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i'm sure that MSI will publish stable bios for x370/x470 soon.

and i want to ask if anyone right now run this system -->   X370 XPOWER GAMING TITANIUM + 3900x and its work for him?

i have also  x370 titanium + 3900x but i still didn't try it
and i ask because i want to know if should I wait for the stable bios or use the beta

thanks ,nir.
 
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