Bios and memory problem with a P67A-GD80?

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Hi, I'm experiencing 2 problems with this board and I have not yet install an OS in it

first problem : in the bios if I go in the section Green Power, the system froze, I have to press reset to reboot

second problem : if I install 2 stick of memory in the blue slot, it work fine
if I remove them and place them in the black slot, it work fine
if I place 4 sticks at the same time, the system crash and reboot and make a loop

here the stick I try : Patriot PVV34G1600LLR 4 of them
G Skill F3-12800cl9q-16GBRL  4 of them

I see that new version of BIOS is supose to fix some problem with compatibility of memory, the problem is the way the board shut down when I put 4 stick, it's like the board is overload the led don't act like when you press the resset, they kind dim before the board crash

thanks and sorry for my english , I must add that it's more than 25 years I build computer I build around 3 a week, I have never RMA one motheboard until now. 
 
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Test the following please.
Insert only two in the blue slot. Manually set your BIOS so that the DRAM speed is at 1333 9.9.9.24 at 1,5V.  Save that and then insert the other two modules to test if it boots. If not, increase the DRAM voltage to ~1,55V-1,6V and retest.
 
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Might also want try downloading the new BIOS from another system and try flashing it, see f that cures the problem...believe the BIOS should default to 1333, then enable XMP for 1600
 
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Thanks Bernhard,  so for now if I adjust only the freq. to 1333 the 4 sticks of 4 Gb G skill work, but the Patriot no way, even cranking the voltage to 1,65 but in their case , they are the exact same model but 1 set have a board green and the other black.

so the board is ok it's simply an incompatibility ? the Gskill belong to another build and I don't need 16 gb

I was planing to use the Patriot...  so I guess I will order 2 stick of 4 GB form another brand, do you have a sugestion that work fine with this board ?

Now I have to check if this Green Power is still frozing in the BIOS. all true it'S not a reason for an RMA as I don't need it. I still have something else, the P67 chipset heatsink is winding , hn I put my finger on it it's stop, and resart latter , any idea ?

thanks again for the help
 
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Tradesman said:
Might also want try downloading the new BIOS from another system and try flashing it, see f that cures the problem...believe the BIOS should default to 1333, then enable XMP for 1600
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oups you post when I reply....  Ya betwen the first post and the test of Berhnard, I install Windows 7 and download the last Bios, same problem, do you mean I have to enable XMS ? I will give a try and come back
 
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Great..it's working not at 1600 with XMP enable, voltage and timming still on auto, and guess what winding disapear too.

I see on New Egg that they have memory they tag Sandy ready, is their a difference ?

I will order 2 pair of 4 gb

I have to say thanks great suport here, I was an Asus fanboy before , and recently I purchase 3 MSI boards with AMD 1090t CPU for my Hyper-V host, and now I give a try to this board, I know that MSI board was not easy on memory setup. So thanks again with your help I will say that I never RMA a board again and for sure I will continue with MSI, they make great improovement those last years.

 
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From user experience and feedback we know that the Crucials you see in my signature work very well. They are standard 1333 2GB modules, but they are available in 2 X 4GB kits as well. They afford stability at the standard 1333. If you don't intend to OC, then you won't need anything else.
 
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the problem is the way the board shut down when I put 4 stick, it's like the board is overload
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do you mean I have to enable XMS ?
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Actually, it's not likely a mainboard overload at all, it's probably the CPU IMC having the problem. Enable of X.M.P. is the last thing you want to do. If the RAM has to be set in this manner, it is not programmed to properly default at the platform's designed specifications. BIOS revisions dealing with compatibility are being worked on to make up for this RAM manipulation.

My apology to the OP in advance for the next comments. Some here at the forum have been advised before, that having to set X.M.P. to get the RAM to work properly (having to OC it) is a wrong way to go about it. The platform must first be able to run at stock/auto/default with no issues 'first', then venturing off to more exotic settings later if desired. This 'forcing' of non spec 'rated' RAM & programming is purely product marketing tactics. As mentioned, with four sticks of RAM, the CPU IMC may require an increase of DRAM V. Here is the official specifications from the current Intel data. This data is not really open to debate. For those that have issue with it, take it up with Intel! :-))

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So if I understand well, if I install 1600 MHz memory they gone try to run at that speed and cause the problem? for now they work well  at 1600 with XMP enable and run well at 1333 with XMP disable and volts set at auto, ( 1,5v)  since 1600 will not make a noticeable increase on the performance, I'm better to put it at 1333 and 1,5 volts ( auto ) like first Bernhard suggest.  As for increase the Dram for 4 sticks, I just ordered 2 sticks of 4 gb, so it will fix that problem too  . I get those G Skill  Ripjaws X Series DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) F3-12800CL8D-8GBXM, principally for the look, I need blue one.

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231445 
 
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So if I understand well, if I install 1600 MHz memory they gone try to run at that speed and cause the problem?
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Very much so a possibility if the RAM SPD profile programming is of a non standard DDR3 1333, & the RAM won't properly default to that. If the system is working stable like it should at 1333, & it will also run stable at 1600, it is of course your choice as to which speed you want to run with. Purchase of new RAM then seems unecessary except if a color scheme change is desired.
In that link, this is spin doctoring at it's best; "Designed for Intel P67 motherboard" (custom designed for a brand X motherboard maybe?) :lol_anim: 1600 with 8 8 8 24 timing is not by 'design' as per Intel for the Sandy Bridge platform. :nooo: As long as it correctly defaults to 1333 initially when installed, you shouldn't have any expected problem with the new RAM if you purchase it.
 
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so you tell me I will have be better with something lake this one

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145345

is there a problem to run the G skill at 9-9-9-24 insted of 8-8-8-24 ?

 
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To be honest, I don't know the programming of the chips for either of those models or brands of RAM. I am somewhat reluctant to endorse any RAM manufacturer these days, but Crucial DDR3 seems to be a reliable choice across a number of platforms.  

is there a problem to run the G skill at 9-9-9-24 insted of 8-8-8-24 ?
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At 1333? Not really, but if they will run stable with the tighter timings (or a higher OC'd rating if so desired), no need to loosen them (or reduce to 1333). Again, not an endorsement in this section of the forum to OC, but do want to emphasis that if problems are encountered when running to Intel specs, then there is an underlying issue that needs to be resolved.
 
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ok I order the G Skill I will receive it in 2 days, and I will check and return to you what happen, they are listed as compatible on G Skill, I will like to take crutial, but they don'T have blue, and for this build it's a must. thanks all.


http://www.gskill.com/products.php?index=356

 
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Thanks HU16e, but I have a question, if I want to run my board at stock , why purchase an MSI and give me  the trouble to build it, would not be simpler to just purchase a Dell ? I reset the BIOS and the G-Skill work nice now, I also try  4 sticks of Kingston, work great. The Patriot no way, What I think is that when I test the board the first time with this patriot ram, something mess up the bios

But I still have this problem of Bios, it hang when I go in the Green power section,  the mouse cursor disappear too, I try without mouse same problem, try with an usb and a ps2 keyboard same thing

Any idea, something told me it?s a bug in the BIOS code?.
 
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if I want to run my board at stock , why purchase an MSI and give me  the trouble to build it, would not be simpler to just purchase a Dell ?
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The point is being missed here. Get the system to work correctly at the very basic level of stock/auto/default 'first', & then if so desired, move in to the more exotic configurations. For that, open a new thread in the section of the forum dedicated for that purpose.

For further assistance, it is time to ask you for a complete listing of your systems components. Creating a signature is helpful. So far, all we know is the board & that you have some RAM kits.
 
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HU16E said:
For further assistance, it is time to ask you for a complete listing of your systems components. Creating a signature is helpful. So far, all we know is the board & that you have some RAM kits.
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well here the list of the parts ( it's not yet a system as you see on the pics) , as for the signature, not sure you it's appropriate to list my main build on MSI forum, as for the RAM it's fix now....... the remain problem is the BIOS who froze  when I access the green power section   P67a-GD80
Intel 2600K ( stock)
G Skill F3-12800cl9q-16GBRL  4 of them ( those work fine now at default bios setting)
Seasonic M12D ss750Em
Power Color HD 4650 , I try also an Nvidia Oem 8800GT no specification of the driver version, since it's a BIOS problem
WDC wd10ealx
Windows 7 x64 enterprise ( not in cause here )

As you see I always test the board on a removable tray, so i'm sure the GPU will not pull out , t

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Bernhard said:
Disable the EuP2013 feature in the BIOS and see if that helps.
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I feel we are going someplace...  do you have another place than the Green Power section you can disable the EuP2012 because it froze, also, I notice as you see on the pic, the C1E is disable by default, , do I have to enable it, and is it because the page froze before fully load that I see no voltage ? I will go check in Windows if I see those voltages

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