Can I Insert this To my *B350M MORTAR*

sanbool158c02de

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Hello All,
I'm Fresh to the forums and like to ask a technical question.

I have MB
B350M MORTAR
and I install on it:
Nvidia 3050 (2 Displays connected by DP & HDMI)​
2 SATA HDD (500-2T)​
24 GB Ram (4 Slot Ram)​
I would like to install an additional SSD (Like 500 to 1 TB)
Crucial P3 Plus 500GB PCIe M.2 2280 SSD
I Have slot M.2 Slot on my motherboard (based on website specification)

My question is Can I Install this SSD and what is another suitable for my motherboard.?
 

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Yes it will support most M.2 drives with out a problem Both PCIE-3.0x4-NVME and SATA-M.2
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You wont get max speed of PCIE 4.0x4 out of it but when you do a Upgrade to new Motherboard it will work well on it.
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24 GB Ram (4 Slot Ram)
This is not good on several levels. You are using mismatched modules, this will only confuse the memory system. Not only that, some of that RAM will run in single-channel mode because there is an unequal amount of RAM in the two slots of a channel. And the entire RAM will only run at the properties of the slowest module.
Additionally, your board works best with just two modules, see RAM explained: Why two modules are better than four / single- vs. dual-rank / stability testing

Can you please list all the models of your RAM modules, as well as your PSU model?
 

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Yes it will support most M.2 drives with out a problem Both PCIE-3.0x4-NVME and SATA-M.2
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You wont get max speed of PCIE 4.0x4 out of it but when you do a Upgrade to new Motherboard it will work well on it.
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Thank you so much for your reply and your details answered.
but I figured out that the difference between P3 & P3 Plus is not a big deal; it costs more money in my country.
if I will use it will use P3 - 1TB, not the Plus Version.

one last question regards this Motherboard...
what is the last version of AMD CPU I can install?
 

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This is not good on several levels. You are using mismatched modules, this will only confuse the memory system. Not only that, some of that RAM will run in single-channel mode because there is an unequal amount of RAM in the two slots of a channel. And the entire RAM will only run at the properties of the slowest module.
Additionally, your board works best with just two modules, see RAM explained: Why two modules are better than four / single- vs. dual-rank / stability testing

Can you please list all the models of your RAM modules, as well as your PSU model?
Thanks, bro for your reply...
Actually, i have 2 Ram of

NIGHT HAWK RGB / NIGHT HAWK Legend RGB DDR4 DESKTOP MEMORY 3200
and 2 other from old PC which are
Crucial 4GB DDR4-2666 UDIMM
all Ram installed on Dual Channels.
 

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Yeah, i would remove the two 2x4 GB modules that are from the old PC. They are not helping, they are ruining the RAM performance.
Use only the 2x 8 GB in slots A2 and B2 (second and fourth RAM slot from the left).
Keep the 2x 4 GB kit as reserve or sell it or whatever. Trust me, the performance will be better. And there's not much that needs more than 16 GB even today.

What is your PSU model? It's written on the side.
 

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Yeah, i would remove the two 2x4 GB modules that are from the old PC. They are not helping, they are ruining the RAM performance.
Use only the 2x 8 GB in slots A2 and B2 (second and fourth RAM slot from the left).
Keep the 2x 4 GB kit as reserve or sell it or whatever. Trust me, the performance will be better. And there's not much that needs more than 16 GB even today.

What is your PSU model? It's written on the side.
Thanks for your details reply.
i will do this by next weekend.
also, i can't check the PSU right now.

any software can help in that ?
 

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No, the PSU just delivers the voltages to the PC, the PSU and PC don't communicate in any other way. So you can't read out the PSU model, you have to read it from the sticker.
 

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Thank you so much for your reply and your details answered.
but I figured out that the difference between P3 & P3 Plus is not a big deal; it costs more money in my country.
if I will use it will use P3 - 1TB, not the Plus Version.

one last question regards this Motherboard...
what is the last version of AMD CPU I can install?
All of them will work if you have correct bios update.
Newest would be the R7 5800X3D also was the final AM4 CPU released
 

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All of them will work if you have correct bios update.
Newest would be the R7 5800X3D also was the final AM4 CPU released
Thanks forr your reply.
Regards the Bios, can i do it or it's critical so i have to go to computer mall shops better to handle this.?
Thanks in advance.
 

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If you do not have a Older CPU to use like a Ryzen 2000 series you will have to get it done at a PC service center
 

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If you have a CPU that runs in this board already, then the update is really simple, no need to have someone else do it.

Update how-to:
1) Get the latest BIOS. It's the topmost one on the MSI support page for your board. Yes, the beta version!! https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B350M-MORTAR/support
2) Extract the file and you will get a text file and the BIOS file. Put the BIOS file into the root folder of a USB stick/drive.
3) Enter the BIOS by pressing DEL during boot, go to "M-FLASH" in the BIOS.
4) Once M-Flash (the updater) is loaded, it will show a list of your drives. Select the USB stick and select the previously extracted BIOS file on there.
5) It will ask for confirmation and then update the BIOS. It's fully automatic from there, takes about two minutes.

BTW It would still be good to know what PSU model you have.
 

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If you have a CPU that runs in this board already, then the update is really simple, no need to have someone else do it.

Update how-to:
1) Get the latest BIOS. It's the topmost one on the MSI support page for your board. Yes, the beta version!! https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B350M-MORTAR/support
2) Extract the file and you will get a text file and the BIOS file. Put the BIOS file into the root folder of a USB stick/drive.
3) Enter the BIOS by pressing DEL during boot, go to "M-FLASH" in the BIOS.
4) Once M-Flash (the updater) is loaded, it will show a list of your drives. Select the USB stick and select the previously extracted BIOS file on there.
5) It will ask for confirmation and then update the BIOS. It's fully automatic from there, takes about two minutes.

BTW It would still be good to know what PSU model you have.
Many thanks bro for details info, is this should be before or After install the R7 5800X ?
also, is this will effect on my R5 2600X ?

regards the PSU, I have 500 W cool master.
as i think but not sure if it 500 or 550 W
 

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You have to do it before installing the new CPU, otherwise it won't boot with that. Ideal would be to do it as the last thing before you swap the CPUs.

Cooler Master had many different 500W models over the years, i need the exact model name. Something like "MPE-5001-ACAAB" for example should be written on the sticker somewhere.
 

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You have to do it before installing the new CPU, otherwise it won't boot with that. Ideal would be to do it as the last thing before you swap the CPUs.

Cooler Master had many different 500W models over the years, i need the exact model name. Something like "MPE-5001-ACAAB" for example should be written on the sticker somewhere.
ok, got it.

regards the PSU, i will do that in weekend.

thanks in advanced.
 

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That's an old Cooler Master of horrible quality, and "fake 500W" (it will already have big problems with power draw exceeding 350 or 400W). You can actually see them stating the maximum output from all rails combined at 427.9W in the small print, and it doesn't even have PFC correction. This is as bad as it gets, completely outdated technology inside which can't cope with modern requirements. Honestly, i'm surprised it still hasn't caused data corruption on your Windows install. I would replace this PSU as soon as possible with a new one of adequate quality.
I wrote a Guide: How to find a good PSU.
 
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