D-led2 "PROG.CLK" error message.

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First of all: Why would you provide a debugging service which has error messages not explained ANYWHERE? There is no info anywhere about what PROG.CLK means. I cannot complete POST. Me and a friend have quadruple-checked everything in the MB.

Tried this: https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?action=printpage;topic=123185.0
Nothing.

Tried CMOS reset. Tried using only one memory module.

And everyting used to work fine by the way. I have not changed any components. Which are the following: Intel Xeon i7 W5320, 3x2GB Crucial Ballistix Tracer 8-8-8-24 1.65v, HIS Radeon 5870 1GB, OCZ Vertex 2 60GB.

The power supply is a Tagan Turbojet 1100w.

No error beeps.

Edit: I have actually changed harddrive, I forgot. But well, I tried with and without harddrive, no change. I also never POST anyway. Also added the components.

Edit #2:

MSI X58 Eclipse SLI BIOS 1.1 without OS
Intel Xeon i7 w5320 2,66Ghz
Crucial Ballistix Tracer DDR3 PC12800/1600MHz CL8 Blue 3x2GB (BL3KIT25664TB1608)
Tagan Turbojet 1100w 12v-20A  3.3&5v-28A
HIS Radeon HD5870
OCZ Vertex 2 60gb
 
At one time the D-led stopped at CPU Ini but a little push on the cooler fixed it. I can have pushed it accidentaly so many times disassembling everyting so many times. I did however fasten the cooler very hard and thoroughly though.
Also, to get proper airflow I had to mount the cooler (CoolerMaster Hyper 212plus) the "wrong" way over the CPU, and not use that CPU-fastener-thing. But then again the cooler where it's in contact with the CPU is practically square. The pressure over the CPU is as even as it would've been the correct way.
Practically square? Recommend removing the jury-rigged CPU cooler & putting the stock cooler back on & see if the symptom still persists. Could be the CPU or the socket has become damaged in some way, so try with the stock cooler or another CPU if one is available. :-))

 
HU16E said:
Practically square? Recommend removing the jury-rigged CPU cooler & putting the stock cooler back on & see if the symptom still persists. Could be the CPU or the socket has become damaged in some way, so try with the stock cooler or another CPU if one is available. :-))

I don't think that there's anything wrong there since the Dled shows no error of the CPU and since there's no way to crush the socket with the cooler unless I fastened it too tight. I just wanted to make sure everyting was tight. The CPU gets even pressure even if I have turned the tower 45 degrees, look: http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/imagehosting/334a77e09b9b980.jpg . That steel four-armed-thing which fastens the tower is the same, I just turned the tower; which has a contact surface practically square.

The problem right now is with the GPU, without one the Dled goes past the "PROG.CLK" error message to the last one which is "VGA.Ini" which is obvious since then there's no GPU even connected.

The Dled goes through these phases in POST basically: DDR.Ini -> CPU.Ini - PROG.CLK -> VGA.Ini I guess ini stands for initialization, and if it stops at one of these it means that part cannot initalize. Somewhere inbetween there it also checks hardware like keyboard and mouse. Which is OK for me. If it goes past one point it means that one is alright, meaning the memory and processing unit is OK. But with GPU connected it stops at  PROG.CLK and without it it goes past it.


A good thing for me would be to try another PCI-E GPU. But I have none even remotely readily available. My last computer used AGP cards. Yeah, I had saved up for this computer for years and years (I'm 19).

But I have my hopes up for a solution still. Hopefully you guys see something :). I could borrow my GF's camera, it's one of those pro ones so you will get detailed pictures if you would require those. I'm starting to think there could be something super-trivial like a cable put wrong, but then again me and my uncle (he knows computers too) looked everything over so many times. Still something could be wired wrong, since I disassembled it right away to be able to mount the CPU Cooler and I had never assembled it before since I bought it used and assembled. But it's unlikely because of how things act at startup. I tried connecting different PCI-E power cables to the GPU since there was four to choose from, or three rather, but nothing. (2x6pin, 1x6+2pin and 1x8pin) I think it was.


And thanks very much for all the help thus far, especially you Jack! I'm going to bed so I won't answer right away until tomorrow.
 
Well, now I've tried booting with the MB and power supply on cardboard, I've also removed my "jury-rigged" cooler and reassembled the original one. Still PROG.CLK! I will probably go [***CENSORED***] kill myself :)
 
Placing it on a non conductive surface & testing was a wise thing to do, along with making it as generic bare bones as possible. Makes it much easier to troubleshoot. With all the things you have tried, it is narrowing down to mainboard, CPU, or just a maybe, the PSU. If you don't have access or able to borrow another CPU or PSU to test with, hopefully there is a reasonable cost shop in the area that can help you test everything out.

When you changed back to the stock cooler, did you remove the CPU & inspect the socket pins with a magnifier & strong light? Contact on the CPU pads look good? That would be something worth checking out.
 
it's a Intel Xeon W3520 CPU not W5320, just so you know and the BIOS version is 7520v1D.zip (18 May 2010). I am the one who sold the computer to him, any more information you need?
 
Well, we already know that the system worked before he got it and before he exchanged the CPU Cooler.  If that is true, something must have been seriously messed up or damaged during the transport and/or when the heatsink was changed.  The current situation pretty much points to an RMA case.
 
Jack said:
Well, we already know that the system worked before he got it and before he exchanged the CPU Cooler.  If that is true, something must have been seriously messed up or damaged during the transport and/or when the heatsink was changed.  The current situation pretty much points to an RMA case.

I am 100% sure that it has nothing to do with the transport
 
Be that as it may, but that still leaves the heatsink-change as a possible cause for the malfunction.  And again, currently, the situation points to an RMA.
 
Yeah, I checked the CPU and motherboard sockets for dirt or damage but I found nothing. I'm out of options it seems, looks like I'll buy a Sabertooth from a local dealer :S
 
Jack said:
Be that as it may, but that still leaves the heatsink-change as a possible cause for the malfunction.  And again, currently, the situation points to an RMA.

the board seems to have 3 years warranty, does MSI require anything else than the board? I bought it from Elmor (the famous swedish overclocker)
 
In Europe there is no such thing as direct RMA.  The reseller needs to be contacted, together with the respective proof of purchase. 
 
Jack said:
In Europe there is no such thing as direct RMA.  The reseller needs to be contacted, together with the respective proof of purchase. 

thats bad, I don't think Elmor bought it from a reseller, he usually wins these things or get them free from sponsors..
 
I would keep testing it outside the case on a non-conducting surface in barebone configuration (CPU+heatsink, one memory module, power connectors, keyboard/monitor).  Reseat the CPU & (original) heatsink again, clear CMOS and try to change things.  If nothing changes, the only way to proceed is to cross-test all involved components.  One of them is gotta be the cause for the problem. 
 
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