ECLIPSE + CORSAIR 2000 6GB 7-8-7-20 = NEW BIOS?

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:confused2: I JUST GOT MY BRAND NEW MEM: CORSAIR 2000 6GB 7-8-7-20 , BUT THE ECLIPSE DOES NOT BOOT AT THESE SPECS.
ONLY BOOTS WHEN DOWNGRADE MEMORY TO 1333 MHZ!!!. NEED NEW BIOS OR A NEW MOTHERBOARD? BECAUSE I DONT EVEN THINK ABOUT CHANGING THIS MEMORY...
SOMEONE??? :confused2:
 
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Looks like you will have to enter bios Cell Menu & change the settings manually. The memory is probably 1333 chipped with manufacturers permission to OC & overvolt to the published rating.

Edit: At first, it may be best to start initial testing with just one stick in slot #2 (AO). Some have good things to say about the bios 1.4b3. Make sure to use the forum USB Flash Tool if you decide to try it.
 
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Contact MSI Tech. Support. They will direct you to the FTP I believe.

http://ocss.msi.com.tw

As a side note, I looked up the data sheet for your memory. As suspected, the JEDEC for them is 1333 9 9 9 24. Tested at the higher rating.

Here is the link: http://www.corsair.com/_datasheets/TR3X6G2000C7GTF.pdf Be sure to read the small print at the bottom.
 
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I ALREADY READ THAT, BUT THATS WHAT IS WRITTEN IN ALL MODULES BASED ON THAT SAME JETEC. I THOUGHT THAT ECLIPSE BEING THE FLAGSHIP OF MSI X58'S COULD DO BETTER, AS ASUS BOARDS DO...
 
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This is a user to user forum. There are no active MSI employees in here. We users are not your enemy. We do our best to help. Please read these links:
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=64858.0
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=58111.0

As best I can tell, the Eclipse MoBo did it's job setting the RAM to 1333. The issue is more with Corsair than MSI. To reach 1600 & above, the modules have to be OC & overvolted & timings set manually.
 
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WHY DO YOU SAY THAT? DO YOU THINK THAT IF I THOUGHT I HAD ENEMIES HERE I WOULD ASK FOR HELP?
I THOUGHT THAT WE USERS SEARCHING FOR SOLUTIONS HERE, AND I RESPECT THE FACT THAT YOU TOOK THE TIME TO FIND THE MEMORY DETAILS AND REPLY TO ME, HOW COULD I TOOK YOU FOR AN ENEMY?

YES THE MOBO, MODIFY BY ITSELF AT 1333, AND WHEN I MANUALLY TRY TO MAKE THE MEMORY DEFAULTS (2000/7-8-7-20) REBOOTS WITH 1333. THATS WHY I BELIEVE THAT THIS CAN BE SOLVED BY MSI NEW BIOS.
 
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Continued bickering won't solve getting your mem. modules above 1333. I've given you a link to MSI Tech. Support to ask them if they have a bios that can help you. As far as the enemy statement, sorry you took offense. It was just a metaphor.

Did you read the forum rules & posting guide?

As a side note, the Intel i7 integrated memory controller only natively supports 800/1066. The MoBo manufacturers take it from there.

 
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I POSTED ON SITE YOU GAVE ME AND WAITING FOR RESPONSE...
THANKS FOR YOUR HELP. ANY IDEAS ON HOW TO GET THE MEM CLOCK CLOSE TO 2000 WOULD BE NICE. SO FAR NOTHING WORTH MENTIONING. I HAVE I965 (SUPPOSED TO BE UNLOCKED) AND I CANNOT RAISE THE MULTIPLIER ABOVE DEFAULT 24. IT ONLY GOES DOWN NOT UP!! SO I TRY TO RAISE THE BUS TO BOTH CPU + MEM TO REACH 2000 (MEM) WITH NO XMP.
 
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Since my i7 X58 is still under contruction, I don't have an immediate answer for you. My Corsairs are the 3X2G1600C8 (1333 chipped) series.

An updated bios should help raise the multiplier above 24 as well as address memory compatability. The current extent of my knowledge so far as to setting memory is 133 X8 = 1066, 166 X8 = 1333, 200 X8 = 1600. One of the forum users, mechsner, has found using the mem. multiplier of 8, seems to be the most reliable. Keep us posted as to your progress.
 
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BUT I DO HAVE THE I7 965 AND AS I TOLD YOU I CANNOT RAISE IT ABOVE 24 MANUALLY AS I COULD WITH OLD EXTREMES.
MOBO DOES IT ONLY BY ITSELF TEMP UP TO 25 OR 26 OR WHATEVER YOU PUT, BUT NOT PERMANENTLY.




OFFICIAL BIOS 1.2
 
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@ Jamalpan,  I read that not being able to change the multi on a 965 was a bug in the early bios. (1.1 or so).  What bios are you running? 
 
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THANK YOU joker1973 FOR YOUR POST, I ALREADY POSTED THE PROBLEM TO MSI AND WAITING FOR RESPONSE.
HOPE FOR A NEWER BETA, OR FINALLY AN OFFICIAL BIOS TO SOLVE?? THESE PROBLEMS...
 
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jamalpan said:
:confused2: I JUST GOT MY BRAND NEW MEM: CORSAIR 2000 6GB 7-8-7-20 , BUT THE ECLIPSE DOES NOT BOOT AT THESE SPECS.
ONLY BOOTS WHEN DOWNGRADE MEMORY TO 1333 MHZ!!!. NEED NEW BIOS OR A NEW MOTHERBOARD? BECAUSE I DONT EVEN THINK ABOUT CHANGING THIS MEMORY...
SOMEONE??? :confused2:
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1) Do not post your messages using Caps Lock = ON.

2) http://www.corsair.com/_datasheets/TR3X6G2000C7GTF.pdf
XMP 7-8-7-20 values at 2000MHz at 1.65V Vdimm
JEDEC standard 9-9-9-24 values at 1333MHz.

2000MHz with CAS7 and only 1.65V ??
I really don't think so.
The chances to get a long term stability in those conditions are less than 10%.
On any mainboard!
Stability at 2000MHz with 1.65V can be achieved only with 10-10-10-27 or 11-11-11-30.
Even so, is not 100% sure.
For future don't buy nice heat spreaders and stay away from marketing tricks.

cheers
 
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The ram i have is corsair 1333 at stock settings but The Core i7 940 is 1066mhz frequency so that causes the ram to underclock to 1066mhz to match the cpu. I tried boosting my Core i7 940 from 133 to 166 and that boosted my ram to 1328mhz. But then i ran FutureMark cpu test and got a BSOD. Had to go back to stock levels to get things stable again.

I am using official bios 1.2 at the moment on my MSI Eclipse. Those bios seem to have big problems at the moment. I'm currently awaiting the new official bios since i'm not too keen on beta bios. Just wish MSI could fix things faster  :rolleyes:
 
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The DRAM at stock runs at 9-9-9-24 @ 1333mhz @ 1.5volts.

The DRAM was set at 1.5 volts when i made the overclock. I've tried increasing the voltage to 1.5 and 1.6 but the same thing happened again. BSOD.
 
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I got a core i7 940 running at 4084MHz , my memory is corsair XMS3 1333MHz and its running at 1420MHz at 1.5v ;Bios 1.4B3

177.6x23=4084MHz , with turbo.
177.6x22=3907MHz , no turbo.
CPU voltage +0.15
Qpi voltage +0.18
Memory multiplier at 4 and uncore multiplier at 9.

Very stable overclock , and great temps , first a had bios 1.2 , but this was not stable .
MSI send me bios 1.4B3 and for me it's super.
Overclocking is searching and searching especially with ram , it's possible that you never get the speed that corsair says , and it's got nothing to do with the motherboard , it's up to you to try and find the max of your system , that's the fun of O.C.
First you need to find the max BCLK and put the other multipliers to a minimum.
Than you need to play around with the multiplier of the memory and the uncore , but for the uncore multiplier you need a newer bios than 1.2 , because in that bios you can not change the uncore multiplier.
The uncore multiplier must always be minimum 2 times the value of the DDR multiplier. ( memory 4 = uncore minimum 8)
I hope this will help you a little bit.

Note that when you leave the QPI voltage on auto it will go up by itself when you overclock., this you can see with the overclocking software of msi in windows , the QPI voltage will show +0.15 or 0.18.

Every where i read that  default QPI voltage is 1.10v ( asus , evga , intel)
I read in a article that with the 965 the QPI must be the same as the CPU voltage because off the higher base QPI speed (6.4 GT/s)
So when you oc CPU to 1.4v  you need to put QPI to 1.4 with the 965 or lower the QPI multiplier to 4.8GT/s in bios and than you don't need to changes you voltage of QPI that much ( default QPI voltage 965 =1.22=default CPU voltage)

My QPI speed is normally 4.8, but now 6.4 GT/s=3200MHz due to the overclock , it all goes up with the base clock , for the 920 and 940 it's a fact that the QPI speed max 4000MHz is=7.2GT/s (stable?)
The speeds you can read with CPU-z and intel processor ID utility.
 
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When i go into my bios i can choose between memory multiplier:auto-3-4-5-6-7-8 and when i choose 4 in the memory ,the uncore multiplier Giff's me :auto-8-9-10-11-12........
That's what i mean , o overclocked my 1333MHz memory to 1420MHz and it's running great at 1.50v , I understand what you say but maybe there is some difference if you install a 940?
When i put uncore on auto it chooses a multiplier of 10 when i use a multiplier of 4 in the memory= result not stable, uncore multiplier (NB frequency) at 9 = super stable.
I follow you , if i check CPU-z it says 2:8 memory FSB:DRAM. It's miss put by MSI in the bios than?

Core i7 940 bios 14B3 , corsair XMS3 1333 triple 6x2GB=12GB total

DRAM frequency :710MHz.=1420MHz
NB Frequency (uncore):3196MHz.
Core speed :4083MHz. (turbo) 
Bus speed :177.6MHz
Multiplier :23
QPI link:3196MHz.
Greetings Tom.
 
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