GE76 CPU 12th Gen Temperatures

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one thing I noticed recently, when the laptop goes to sleep or hibernate, not sure, when I load it up again, login etc, the MSI control will ramp up the fans on its own despite no load and custom fan profile set at max 20%, and that happens until I switch to a different profile and back again to my custom one then it stops, anyone else had similar 'issue'?
Nope. But i disabled hibernate and don't use sleep (both I would recommend) and also noticed that the msi center takes a while to initialize after startup and until that the fans are 'uncontrolled'
 
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Enter bios / advanced bios

1st enable overclock feature

2 enter power & performance menu, enter CPU power management control, scroll to bottom and enter ”cpu lock configuration” and make ”overclock lock” (disabled)

go back one step and scroll up and enter ”view/configure turbo options” Then enter ”turbo ratio limit options” scroll down and change all the ”numcore” values to 0 (zero)

etc numcore0, numcore1, numcore2-7 all should be value zero ”0”

save, restart and Open throttlestop:)

This works. I have new bios :)

after this FIVR is enabled in throttlestop
My "sad" story :
really strange for 12900HK - I did in bios before CPU offset -100 etc etc 60 for 2 others - all was working and showed in HWINFO about offset.
and it was locked in Throttlestop
Now - I did your steps - yes -it is unlocked in Throttlestop I could change it etc etc but it not showing offset after applying not in Throttlestop not in HWINFO!

In Bios I switched back - ON all this LOCKs - both!? btw and nothing returned for changed WORKING -offsets by default in bios!
I think - I have to Reset bios and may be try again?
btw 2.0.8 version new bios came E17K4IMS.208 in windows update again - first of all!
Lost....
 

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Turn off the Windows 11 virtualization features including core isolation memory integrity. Delete the ThrottleStop.INI configuration file and reboot.

thanks - I will try but questions still exists - it was in W11 working ok!, set in Bios, not TS settings! And they stop working when I start changing this Overclock cfg Locks etc...
Mystery for me - because BIOS is bios and if I put - negative offset in bios - it must be as IT set! BIOS is a = KING for PC....
 

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You might be able to set the voltage in the BIOS but if you are using Windows 11 and the virtualization features are enabled, you will not be able to use any software to read the CPU voltage values. Virtualization blocks direct access to the CPU voltage control register, both reading and writing to this register. That is what your ThrottleStop screenshot is showing.
 
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The walls are closing in. They got Control of a plastic chicklet you paid $3500 for. Grr. Nothing to do now Sept play games and burn up your rig running pointless benchmarks. One last performance boost. LIQUID METAL

MIGHT AS WELL HAVE THE HIGHEST FPS AVAIABLE.
 

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I thought these things came with liquid metal already? Phase change?
 
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Only top of line Models fo Big $$$$$$$. Phase change is when the operating and the LM melts to liquid.
Phase Change: Your Ice Cube is going thru a Phase Change when it melts in your Whiskey-One Way tho.
 

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Yah, gotcha. I thought the i7 models had it too. Just on the GE67's
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SOLVED!!! So to close this thread off. Here is my conclusion:

I stopped playing with the Power Plans in windows and turned to TDP values. I was adjusting my TDP limits to tame the beast as i don’t need the stock high power limits and the heat it brings. i adjusted my 12700h tdp PL1 to 75w and PL2 to 80w to keep my spiked temp spike in low 90s compared to 98C when running the stock PL1: 110w and PL2: 135w GE76 setup. I left tau at the stock value of 56s. Cinebench multiscore with that still hits an amazing ~15, 923. Max power i get 16,320. I can only speak for the 12700h GE76 cooling solution. But i noticed i start getting less larger (incremental) improved performance above these TDP values. Starts to flatten a little. At full power i was throttling 46% of the time; while at my reduced tdps i was throttling 1% of the time ;)

Now, i ran some more tests using AAA games that were making me spike to 98-100C under Stock heavy load like CyberPunk. My tuning objective is to reduce my spiked temp. Here are my findings & my final settings for this chassis. I will only show the noteworthy TDP settings & results. Conclusion & my final settings are below.

I7 12700H on a GE76 chassis (TCC at 6 so throttle at 94C rather than 95C stock)
@PL1: 110w / PL2:135w (stock)
Cinebench Multi: ~16,320
Single: ~1,773
Cyberpunk & Star Citizen temp spike: 98C
Cyberpunk & Star Citizen Avg temp: 80-88C
avg FPS CyberPunk Ultra & 1% lows: 78 & 56
Takeaway: XTU showed it was TCC throttling 50% of the time... what a waste

@PL1: 75 / PL2: 80
Multi: 15, 980
Single: 1,761
Cyberpunk & SC temp spike: 94C <-- XTU showed it was TCC throttling 14% of the time... better
CyberPunk & SC Avg temp: 77-85C
avg FPS CyberPunk Ultra & 1% lows: 77 &55
Takeaway: XTU showed it was TCC throttling 14% of the time. Not bad! the clock speed stays at 4099mhz (max boost PL1) 86% of the time

@PL1: 65 / PL2: 70
Multi: 15, 150
Single: 1,796
Cyberpunk & SC temp spike: 90C
Cyberpunk & SC avg temp: 70-82C
avg FPS CyberPunk Ultra & 1% lows: 75 & 54
Takeaway: XTU showed it was TCC throttling 1-2% of the time. Excellent! the clock speed hovers at 3.98Ghz - 4.1Ghz 99% of the time. down by 100mhz i suspect because of the lower power not thermals. So we're in the G spot here where clock speed is just about affected by the power you give and we're not thermally throttling. (this is the pivot point you want to play in)

Conclusion

As you can see the graph from Jarrod & my testing above (although for the i9, i observed the i7 to behave similarly from a perf vs wattage perspective). It looks like the perfect sweet spot for all of us GE76 12700H owners is running the CPU PL1 anywhere between 65-75w and PL2 70-80. You get the most gains as after that it flattens out more and the CPU needs more wattage for proportionate performance gains. I ultimately chose 65W PL1 and 70 PL2 and my temps and fans on idle barely are noticable. Any lower than this, and you will be power throttling the CPU and it won't maintain the 4.1Ghz boost during heavy workloads / games due to power limit throttling. If the i7 12700h had the same liquid phase changing compound that the i9 gets, or bigger heat pipes then we can increase these power limits and not keep getting knocked down by thermal throttling but alas! this is the chassis we have to work with.

So even with my 65W and 70W TDP settings, the 12th gen is so efficient with power usage compared to 11th Gen. It still crushes the top spec from 11th gen. That, is truly amazing.
Thank you for sharing this very valuable information, just ordered my GP66 12UGS, I now have a good ball park figure of how to set it.
 
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Thank you for sharing this very valuable information, just ordered my GP66 12UGS, I now have a good ball park figure of how to set it.
My ge76 often spike to 95-96. Its not a problem. The CPU can run 105c without anything breaking. It Will throttle in time and lower temps. It Will run like this for years because its designed to do it. Just play and have fun :)
 

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My ge76 often spike to 95-96. Its not a problem. The CPU can run 105c without anything breaking. It Will throttle in time and lower temps. It Will run like this for years because its designed to do it. Just play and have fun :)
Well unless you got liquid metal on the CPU, thermal paste will need a repaste sooner if temps are sustained over 95oC.
I prefer my laptops in the low 90s, as you can see I prefer my laptops to last as long as possible.
I still got a D630 and a C650 that I use as streamers with VGA out and an adapter VGA to HDMI on TVs.
I still also have my old P5Q Pro with an E8400 that I rigged up as an XP network server for all my laptops.
 
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Well unless you got liquid metal on the CPU, thermal paste will need a repaste sooner if temps are sustained over 95oC.
I prefer my laptops in the low 90s, as you can see I prefer my laptops to last as long as possible.
I still got a D630 and a C650 that I use as streamers with VGA out and an adapter VGA to HDMI on TVs.
I still also have my old P5Q Pro with an E8400 that I rigged up as an XP network server for all my laptops.

Ofc not substained temps that high. Short spikes. Avg is 70-80c thats not a problem. :)
 
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