GE76 CPU 12th Gen Temperatures

amzuk.leina158702e0 said:
i found solution, im still dont get your point. I reached what i need and you are not able accept it? Im satisfied, i get what i expected from this laptop finally. What placebo effect? I bought ge66 with i9 because it is the best mobile solution and the case can handle temps for such as cpu. Only way how unlock the full performance in that small case is liquid metal. This info is very important for people who need mobile platform in this small case from this manufacture. I didnt do any damage for my self, so what are you talking about? My case, my experiences, my results. Im sharing the info. Wtf man. What is wrong with you? :) Where is the problem? Still dont get it.

PS: 20% better time on compiling time (compare without liquid metal and with it), just for info, but i understand, it is not important for you, but for me yes. :) Less time, bigger efficiency for the client. I can do more work and not wait for compiling so long. This is how i approach to work and this is my goal, what i want reach with buying this laptop. Of course i couldnt be satisfied with result when cpu goes on 60%. I want 100% of performance and i need mobile solution and i did it, with upgrade and risk, but i did it.
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This Topic is about the GE76, right? So your experiences dont even matter for GE76 Users?

I mean its great that you managed to repaste your GE66 with liquid metal and now get 100W without Cooler Booster, but what does it matter? Who does that help? Its just tempting Customers of a brand new laptop to open it and potentially break it by doing something utterly useless.
 
bat-l15b602e7 said:
This Topic is about the GE76, right? So your experiences dont even matter for GE76 Users?

I mean its great that you managed to repaste your GE66 with liquid metal and now get 100W without Cooler Booster, but what does it matter? Who does that help? Its just tempting Customers of a brand new laptop to open it and potentially break it by doing something utterly useless.
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dude chill, GE76 and 66 are pretty much brothers so no point making a completely new thread. Also repasting and thermal problems might bring MSIs attention and address that somehow in the future, we all play for the same team here
 
akuzacj158a02e3 said:
yeah im leaning towards the GE76 however I am not sure if its screen has DCI P3 which is pretty much mandatory after using a macbook, but so far nobody could answer my question on the forums about it...
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The only Information I could find is:


SCREEN SIZE17.3" UHD, Anti-Glare Wide View Angle 4K 120Hz Thin Bezel, Adobe 100%
 
jodyvanwijk815d202ef said:
The only Information I could find is:
SCREEN SIZE17.3" UHD, Anti-Glare Wide View Angle 4K 120Hz Thin Bezel, Adobe 100%
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yeah thanks, thats not it, I've attached screens options comparing GE76 in Poland vs GE66 in Poland vs GE76 in USA, only polish 76 doesnt say anything about it... either way I've managed to create a ticket and asked them directly, we shall see. Funnily enouugh, the GE66 has been tested in poland and it had 80% DCI P3 despite it saying 100% on the site, wonder if it was just a testing version or something... really wouldn't want to spend that much and don't know what I'm getting for it
 

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bat-l15b602e7 said:
This Topic is about the GE76, right? So your experiences dont even matter for GE76 Users?

I mean its great that you managed to repaste your GE66 with liquid metal and now get 100W without Cooler Booster, but what does it matter? Who does that help? Its just tempting Customers of a brand new laptop to open it and potentially break it by doing something utterly useless.
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Ill reply to you last time and from now i dont care, what you will write, reply or whatever in the future. What i see, you have some problem, i dont know with what or why, but you have a problem man.

I answered in multiple threads regarding to laptop temperature problems and somehow advised them. If it is just question regarding to undervolting or some cpu temp problems without that somebody mentioned repasting, i give them all my experiences regarding to this topic. Just to that topic. If it is topic regarding to repasting, i dont see any problem to share my experiences and i think im one of few people with this model G76 or G66 12th intel, who tried or test the most scenarios regarding to repasting or undervolting or setuping raid 0 and try scenarios with different stripe sizes and what influence it has on disk performance in this forum. I have one month behind me, with trying, testing, disassembling, repasting, setuping. In my case, yes, if i damage the laptop, ok it will be sorry for me, but next day, ill buy another one (but i wont say anything to my wife :D), but back to the point. I think it is a pity don't share about this.

Back to your question. Who does it matter? Maybe lot of people, maybe not, but this question is your suggestive opinion. I dont know, you dont know that. It cares me a lot and i dont think that im one of million ;).
Who does that help? It helps people who think about repasting, because my result shows, that repasting with classic paste doesnt bring any big differences. If they want try something, liquid metal is the way.
Everybody, who i replied regarding to repasting, want repaste anyway so i dont tempting anybody to anything and i never did that in my posts.
"by doing something utterly useless" - again, this is you opinion, i get that, i accept it and that is it. I dont attack you about anything. For me it brings 20% less compiling time, it is not negligible number. It is just my case and other cases could be many.

At the end. Have a nice day, because ill have it. :)
 
bat-l15b602e7 said:
No it doesn't, except if you break it in the progress obviously. However, what people here are doing is utterly pointless. Original Paste is absolutely fine and sufficient, just use Cooler Booster for hardcore gaming and/or get a cooling pad. The Laptop has way more power than it should have considering how thin it is, no paste in the world will change anything about your CPU capping 90 degrees and throttling during gaming.
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This is an absolutely false statement made by someone who has had no personel use or experience with the Medium.Liquid Metal is the ONLY way to cool the new high power equipment as demonstrated by the manufactures who have chosen to use it.I have 4 machines all laptops that have been running Liquid Metal for the past 4 years with 12 to 21c drops. LM is NOT a PASTE FOOL. Nickel Plating heatsinks is not ABSOLUTELY necessary when using LM but is best for longevity. Nickel Plate before LM coating and it is done for the life of the lappy as it will not Absorb the LM. LM will start to be absorbed by bare Copper almost immediately when applied to "CLEAN" Copper. On a properly prepared copper, cleaned with 400 grit wet/ dry paper soaked in acetone and thoroughly washed, the LM WORKED into the copper for 10 minutes or better and allowed to soak (keeping wet) overnight. Wipe any excess with dry coarse cloth and light coat of LM before final assembly. Heatsink Contact Patch transferred EXACTLY to copper and stenciled, as with Nickel Plate also, to have sharp matching edges. If done properly can be used 1 year+ before possible dry out. Dry out mainly caused by failing to maintain sharp matching edges on matching die heatsink patches. And breaks in the Gallium Oxide edge Skinning allows air in the interface and eventual drying out. The variance you see in results when applying LM directly to Copper are simply the result of the persons attention to cleanliness , understanding of proceedure, and ability to perform skilled actions such as scratching your nose. You will see many fails because people treat LM like "Pastes". Fatal! There are none of the stupid"shall I use a Dot or Cross application of paste. YOUR USING A LIQUID/NOT A PASTE!. As far as the LM Spill BS goes, look at the simple little picture I post here. Damn fools talking 3 foot foam dams to retain spills purported to be equivalent of Oil Tanker spill! Sensationalists! That thin little foam patch is all that is needed>PERIOD. ALL foam is fireproof these days as the worst case senario is "CRISP" foamies but not if youve done it right. I run GTX 1080 at 211 watt max peak 178 avg 83c Max peak 76c avg with all stock settings. CPU 86c Max 76c average. That is with "NO" mods. All stock factory settings including auto fan. Running Cyberpunk on Ultra or doing a 1-2 hour Handbrake encode. Raised 1.5 inch on stand.
It is So Hard living in a world with Flat Planet People. Fools!
PS: thats a gob of spit hanging out edge of foam 3 rd to last picture to hold in place for assembly! tee hee. Light reflection showing bright between LM and topside gasket edge. This contact patch must match the die area EXACTLY. It is Everything>Period
Normal Heatsink Pressure with attention to Initial Placement.
edit 1/18/2022: Posted HWinfo64 screenshot of my GT75-8RG 6 core by mistake. Take it as indicative of the GT73VR temps with the GT73 being lower.Identical prep.Both machines showing PL1and 2 of 200 watts.
Does your 6 core run that cool?
 

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lookertoo151a02d7 said:
This is an absolutely false statement made by someone who has had no personel use or experience with the Medium.Liquid Metal is the ONLY way to cool the new high power equipment as demonstrated by the manufactures who have chosen to use it.I have 4 machines all laptops that have been running Liquid Metal for the past 4 years with 12 to 21c drops. LM is NOT a PASTE FOOL. Nickel Plating heatsinks is not ABSOLUTELY necessary when using LM but is best for longevity. Nickel Plate before LM coating and it is done for the life of the lappy as it will not Absorb the LM. LM will start to be absorbed by bare Copper almost immediately when applied to "CLEAN" Copper. On a properly prepared copper, cleaned with 400 grit wet/ dry paper soaked in acetone and thoroughly washed, the LM WORKED into the copper for 10 minutes or better and allowed to soak (keeping wet) overnight. Wipe any excess with dry coarse cloth and light coat of LM before final assembly. Heatsink Contact Patch transferred EXACTLY to copper and stenciled, as with Nickel Plate also, to have sharp matching edges. If done properly can be used 1 year+ before possible dry out. Dry out mainly caused by failing to maintain sharp matching edges on matching die heatsink patches. And breaks in the Gallium Oxide edge Skinning allows air in the interface and eventual drying out. The variance you see in results when applying LM directly to Copper are simply the result of the persons attention to cleanliness , understanding of proceedure, and ability to perform skilled actions such as scratching your nose. You will see many fails because people treat LM like "Pastes". Fatal! There are none of the stupid"shall I use a Dot or Cross application of paste. YOUR USING A LIQUID/NOT A PASTE!. As far as the LM Spill BS goes, look at the simple little picture I post here. Damn fools talking 3 foot foam dams to retain spills purported to be equivalent of Oil Tanker spill! Sensationalists! That thin little foam patch is all that is needed>PERIOD. ALL foam is fireproof these days as the worst case senario is "CRISP" foamies but not if youve done it right. I run GTX 1080 at 211 watt max peak 178 avg 83c Max peak 76c avg with all stock settings. CPU 86c Max 76c average. That is with "NO" mods. All stock factory settings including auto fan. Running Cyberpunk on Ultra or doing a 1-2 hour Handbrake encode. Raised 1.5 inch on stand.
It is So Hard living in a world with Flat Planet People. Fools!
PS: thats a gob of spit hanging out edge of foam 3 rd to last picture to hold in place for assembly! tee hee. Light reflection showing bright between LM and topside gasket edge. This contact patch must match the die area EXACTLY. It is Everything>Period
Normal Heatsink Pressure with attention to Initial Placement.
edit 1/18/2022: Posted HWinfo64 screenshot of my GT75-8RG 6 core by mistake. Take it as indicative of the GT73VR temps with the GT73 being lower.Identical prep.Both machines showing PL1and 2 of 200 watts.
Does your 6 core run that cool?
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your CPU runs with 3200 MHz and 80 Degrees and is a completely different CPU than I have - the 12700. Also. Look at the mess you made, do you really wanna suggest to do that to people who just bought a brand new laptop for 3000< dollars? I said REPASTING is useless, you will, in the best case, reach the same performance as the stock paste has. a liquid metal mod is something i would NEVER suggest to normal people because even enthusiasts like you will end up frying their board. One mistake when moving the laptop after installing it not 100% tight and there the board goes and MSI will laugh at you if you start a refund process.

My CPU runs , in dedicated graphics mode, with 90 degrees, basically always. No matter how much wattage the CPU takes. If I dont use Cooler Booster it runs with 45~Watts, with Cooler Booster up to 65 Watts, but always 90 degrees. Gaming performance, in both cases, is absolutely sufficient and outperforms most workstations.

Before applying liquid metal, ask yourself if a Laptop was really the device you needed.
 
GP76 12UH (12900h,3080) here
There is something wrong with my laptop's CPU. My test results are quite different from what I see here and from other users of my laptop model on the Internet.
Cinebench R23 multicore was lower by 2000 than it should be. (The test was conducted outside at low temperatures, in "extreme performance" mode with maximum fan speed )
R23 single-core was lower by 200

Processor Comparison - Head 2 Head

Intel Core i9-12900H vs Intel Core i9-12900HK - Benchmarks, Tests and Comparisons
www.notebookcheck.net www.notebookcheck.net
The maximum power I can achieve is 60 watts, then the processor continues to run at 3 GHz.
In the meantime, the performance of the video card is normal as well as its temperature.
What could be the problem? In a defective processor or should I try to replace the thermal paste or give the laptop under warranty?
 

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GP76 12UH (12900h,3080) here
There is something wrong with my laptop's CPU. My test results are quite different from what I see here and from other users of my laptop model on the Internet.
Cinebench R23 multicore was lower by 2000 than it should be. (The test was conducted outside at low temperatures, in "extreme performance" mode with maximum fan speed )
R23 single-core was lower by 200

Processor Comparison - Head 2 Head

Intel Core i9-12900H vs Intel Core i9-12900HK - Benchmarks, Tests and Comparisons
www.notebookcheck.net www.notebookcheck.net
The maximum power I can achieve is 60 watts, then the processor continues to run at 3 GHz.
In the meantime, the performance of the video card is normal as well as its temperature.
What could be the problem? In a defective processor or should I try to replace the thermal paste or give the laptop under warranty?
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Theres possibly an issue with the liquid metal. Repasting makes no sense, you would need to know how to use liquid metal. i suggest a MSI ticket or directly contacting your reseller.
 
paul.kifne158b02de said:
GP76 12UH (12900h,3080) here
There is something wrong with my laptop's CPU. My test results are quite different from what I see here and from other users of my laptop model on the Internet.
Cinebench R23 multicore was lower by 2000 than it should be. (The test was conducted outside at low temperatures, in "extreme performance" mode with maximum fan speed )
R23 single-core was lower by 200

Processor Comparison - Head 2 Head

Intel Core i9-12900H vs Intel Core i9-12900HK - Benchmarks, Tests and Comparisons
www.notebookcheck.net www.notebookcheck.net
The maximum power I can achieve is 60 watts, then the processor continues to run at 3 GHz.
In the meantime, the performance of the video card is normal as well as its temperature.
What could be the problem? In a defective processor or should I try to replace the thermal paste or give the laptop under warranty?
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@akuzacj158a02e3 GP76 have i9-12900h...
You have problem with you laptop. My mate have same gp76 and has normal results.
watch on cpu wattage:
 
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pacheco.phili151502d4 said:
Hey Everyone I recently received my GE76 with the 12700H, 3070TI, 32Gb config.
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What is the maximum tdp of your graphics card?
On MSI website I see different values for different countries, somewhere 150, somewhere 165

It would be great if you could attach a screenshot from the NVIDIA control panel
 

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bat-l15b602e7 said:
your CPU runs with 3200 MHz and 80 Degrees and is a completely different CPU than I have - the 12700. Also. Look at the mess you made, do you really wanna suggest to do that to people who just bought a brand new laptop for 3000< dollars? I said REPASTING is useless, you will, in the best case, reach the same performance as the stock paste has. a liquid metal mod is something i would NEVER suggest to normal people because even enthusiasts like you will end up frying their board. One mistake when moving the laptop after installing it not 100% tight and there the board goes and MSI will laugh at you if you start a refund process.

My CPU runs , in dedicated graphics mode, with 90 degrees, basically always. No matter how much wattage the CPU takes. If I dont use Cooler Booster it runs with 45~Watts, with Cooler Booster up to 65 Watts, but always 90 degrees. Gaming performance, in both cases, is absolutely sufficient and outperforms most workstations.

Before applying liquid metal, ask yourself if a Laptop was really the device you needed.
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I stand my ground. I got the experience, been there and done that. "One mistake when moving it" That kind of statement pretty well shows your colors. Blah! Blah! You should give your little head a shake there sonny and realize just how absolutely stupid you sound. There are millions of us hobbyists out here that read your silly drool and get our daily chuckle. I mean you can say anything you want, but in the end you are simply a wuss babbling stupid statements that you believe to be true to bolster your own weak abilities.
As regards the "no advantage to re paste a new machine with Generic type Thermal Grease" That is also wrong. I have had new machines to two year old machines pass thru here and the factory job has been horrible. Some totally dry and others gooing and pumped out to the sides, spread as far as onto the mobo. I had one GPU with a quarter inch square in one corner and the remainder thin grey dust. A simple re paste with AS 5 and 80+temps.This 12 INCH upgraded (correct 35 watt i7-3632QM Quad -16gb 500-1000 SSDs-16gb 1866mhz) 2013 HP Elitebook I am using here was nickel plated with LM masked and stenciled exact contact patches and has been working flawlessly for 4 years.I pull the heatsink when I do my yearly maintainance and there has been no change whatsoever. There is no foam pad protection on this rig as it had good heatsink alignment. This is off and on my lap and under my computer table 10-15 times a day. Gets bumped on the table legs and fumbled onto the floor. It is a TRUE laptop and used as a beer coaster.
TAKE A EQUAL SIZE SQUARE (matching on all 4 edges) OF COPPER AND ONE OF ANY GLASS DIE TYPE> COAT THOSE WITH WORKED IN EVEN COAT LIQUID METAL> TAPE THEM TOGETHER TO SIMULATE HEATSINK/DIE INTERFACE> WIPE ANY EXCESS LM OFF THE OUTSIDE AND MAKE SURE NO TWISTING MOVMENT BETWEEN PIECES. Then bounce off the walls throwing it around the room and dropping on floor.
LM when exposed to air forms a skin of Gallium Oxide on the outside. That LM drop is not a drop of LM but an Gallium Oxide Bag full of LM contained by the oxide.
When the heatsink and die are matched together, the interface remains liquid LM while the outside edges, because they are exposed to air, become Gallium Oxide skin that contains the liquid LM in the interface. That is why it is so important to have EXACT MATCHED contact patches.
 
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@pacheco.phili151502d4
@choi_to129d02a5

Can any GE76 with 3070ti owners share the results of TimeSpy or Firestrike benchmarks at WQHD resolution? Mostly interested in the graphics score.
Also, it would be great if someone could share RDR2 in-game benchmark results at WQHD resolution.
 
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paul.kifne158b02de said:
GP76 12UH (12900h,3080) here
There is something wrong with my laptop's CPU. My test results are quite different from what I see here and from other users of my laptop model on the Internet.
Cinebench R23 multicore was lower by 2000 than it should be. (The test was conducted outside at low temperatures, in "extreme performance" mode with maximum fan speed )
R23 single-core was lower by 200

Processor Comparison - Head 2 Head

Intel Core i9-12900H vs Intel Core i9-12900HK - Benchmarks, Tests and Comparisons
www.notebookcheck.net www.notebookcheck.net
The maximum power I can achieve is 60 watts, then the processor continues to run at 3 GHz.
In the meantime, the performance of the video card is normal as well as its temperature.
What could be the problem? In a defective processor or should I try to replace the thermal paste or give the laptop under warranty?
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Maybe there is problem with the thermal phase change paste. Repasting with good paste will bring you better results compare to actual state, but to compare with msi thermal phase change paste, without problem, it is equal, or even little bit worse. So if you dont use liquid metal, dont do anything, apply warranty for check, i think they will resolve the problem. Few posts above i post my results on ge66 and 12900hk so you see what results i have on different pastes. I hope that gp76 has almost same cooling as ge76, if not, everything, what i wrote, is wrong, but 60w tdp fo 17inch laptop is i think too low. On mine g66 where cooling is i think weaker i got 65w on full load cpu run on 3.4 - 3.5 ghz. Single above 1800 and multi from 15500 based on room temp. Do you have written next to touchpad phase change liquid metal pad?
 
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