GE76 CPU 12th Gen Temperatures

Hi everyone, I have an MSI Raider GE76 12UH-240IT 17.3 "QHD 240Hz notebook with Intel I7-12700H and Nvidia RTX 3080 8GB and I also noticed some high temperatures.
However, these rise even more (reaching even 100 °) while I use Chrome on sites that require 3D graphics.
By doing so, the fan set automatically via MSI Center starts spinning quickly but the temperatures remain very high.
Is this normal? Is there any way to fix this?
I think such behavior is absurd, using only a browser and a game with 3D graphics reproduced by this one.
What do you advise me to do?
I am attaching some screenshoots on temperatures.
I hope to find a solution as soon as possible.
 

Attachments

  • IMG_20220414_192144.jpg
    IMG_20220414_192144.jpg
    787.5 KB · Views: 164
  • IMG_20220414_192149.jpg
    IMG_20220414_192149.jpg
    539.5 KB · Views: 169
  • IMG_20220414_192646.jpg
    IMG_20220414_192646.jpg
    1.5 MB · Views: 161
  • IMG_20220414_193447.jpg
    IMG_20220414_193447.jpg
    1.3 MB · Views: 158
Not sure what I am supposed to read from those screen shots. Please use HWinfo64 which gives a broader range of parameters.Open HWinfo64 and leave running in background. Run an Encode or a stress test to put your rig in a working state and then post a screen shot from HWinfo64 when your test has finished.
Set HWinfo64 screen height so first line on top shows 1 line above uncore ratio. Should look like pic below. On left is the encode i am doing and on the right side is HWinfo64Capture-Encoding Weekly Series.PNG
Capture-Encoding Weekly Series.PNG


You have the hottest card in the thinnest laptop. It will need all the help you can give it.
 
Last edited:
amzuk.leina158702e0 said:
From my results, it is not necessary. CPU needs it for sure, but GPU doesnt bring so big difference, between LM and good thermal paste. 2 - 5 degrees, but sometimes this difference cause thermal throttling for example. :)
Click to expand...
When you have a tight, thin,hotty machine like the fellow above, that 2 or 5 degrees lower temperature from LM on GPU can make a BIG difference in Overall Temps and avoid hitting the Thermal Throttle cut line.
The fans still have to dump that extra 3-5 degrees "INSIDE the CASE" temp. That CPU temperatures will also soak into the motherboard to a certain extent and that heat transfer can help the cooling effect on the CPU. The GPU can absorb heat from the CPU. The cooler the GPU is running, the more of that CPU heat will transfer. It pretty well comes down to the fact that on the newer high power rigs you have to do EVERYTHING you can to keep temps down. LM the GPU Pissano!
 
Last edited:
After reading all pages have 4 questions:

1. seems for Games it has to be set 45W TPL, so THIS will let GPU work full power : CPU Temp will lower and enough CPU power still right?
For office and web-surfing job same TPL enough? And change higher for Video coding sort of things.
2.
As I understand Throttlestop (even new beta 9.4.6!) doesn't let undervolt for i9-12900HK - Only BIOS the way?
XTU same story for everybody?
3.
Advice - Any sense to Overclock 12900HK traditionally by Bus-or coefficients? Or there is no room for heat anyway or etc?
4.
Is there anybody can share MSI Afterburner Settings for undervolted or overclock? Figure out Sweetspots for 3070Ti please?
Or just let 3070Ti GPU go at maximum in games - still will be under 75C as forum says?
 
Last edited:
cyberalex10154702dd said:
After reading all pages have 4 questions:

1. seems for Games it has to be set 45W TPL, so THIS will let GPU work full power : CPU Temp will lower and enough CPU power still right?
For office and web-surfing job same TPL enough? And change higher for Video coding sort of things.
2.
As I understand Throttlestop (even new beta 9.4.6!) doesn't let undervolt for i9-12900HK - Only BIOS the way?
XTU same story for everybody?
3.
Advice - Any sense to Overclock 12900HK traditionally by Bus-or coefficients? Or there is no room for heat anyway or etc?
4.
Is there anybody can share MSI Afterburner Settings for undervolted or overclock? Figure out Sweetspots for 3070Ti please?
Or just let 3070Ti GPU go at maximum in games - still will be under 75C as forum says?
Click to expand...

i have tpl set to 45w for CPU and gpu always hit 150w. CPU temp:74c avg and gpu:72-73 avg.
Performance is awesome. :)

12700h/rtx3070ti.
Almost every game over 100fps avg, 1440p. :)
Performance mode/manual fans
 
Guys does the fan for your CPU also sound similar when speeding up from 0? I have the i7 12700

It starts to spin up around 8s

Dropbox - File Deleted - Simplify your life

www.dropbox.com www.dropbox.com
Not sure if this is normal, or shall I try and do something about it


palusajoakim198157102de said:
i have tpl set to 45w for CPU and gpu always hit 150w. CPU temp:74c avg and gpu:72-73 avg.
Performance is awesome. :)

12700h/rtx3070ti.
Almost every game over 100fps avg, 1440p. :)
Performance mode/manual fans
Click to expand...

how did you set the TPL? are you referring to the PL1 PL2 values? also with 45W you're essentially hard capping your CPU to use like 50% of its power right?
mind sharing your manual fans setting? this is in regards to the fan noise I am getting when the cpu gets above like 60deg and the fans spin up to make this kinda annoying me noise...
 
akuzacj158a02e3 said:
Guys does the fan for your CPU also sound similar when speeding up from 0? I have the i7 12700

It starts to spin up around 8s

Dropbox - File Deleted - Simplify your life

www.dropbox.com www.dropbox.com
Not sure if this is normal, or shall I try and do something about it




how did you set the TPL? are you referring to the PL1 PL2 values? also with 45W you're essentially hard capping your CPU to use like 50% of its power right?
mind sharing your manual fans setting? this is in regards to the fan noise I am getting when the cpu gets above like 60deg and the fans spin up to make this kinda annoying me noise...
Click to expand...

I've setted PL1 45W and pl2 75W in BIOS, my fan settings are in some page before..
 
amzuk.leina158702e0 said:
it calls phase change liquid metal pad :)
i started play with that because of thermal throttling and max TDP was 65W and on 15% load, temps jump from 70 to 95 degree, so i know that something is not right. I started with repasting. First grizzly kryonaut, not big change, maybe worse results, next was grizzly kryonaut extreme, at first better results, hold 80W TDP on full load, but in few days it degradeted and i was again on 60 - 65w TDP on full load. Somebody mentioned that if you do a lot of heating on this paste in time it will degrade, maybe this happened to me. So last chance was LM grizzly conductonaut and this was game changer. Temps grow up continuosly with load and max load hold 96 - 110W TDP. I applied it on GPU too, but not recommended for non experienced user. Lot of electronic parts around. cinebench r23 single 1940 multi 19600
Click to expand...
Mate, you are just like me, I'm also a game developer and 3d artist, and I bought this freaking beast to get the full power, yet the cpu thermal is very bad, 65watt max with 3.5ghz,i was able to manage to hit 3.8 with undervoltingg but still the heat is freaking bad.

Is that the liquid metal you used for cpu?

Bec if so, I will order it.

My old laptop was ROG gl502, i7 6700 with gtx 1070 it served me for 5 years now and still rocks. I've artic mx2 paste, but based on what yiu said, I then won't repaste my cpu but with LM


Just please confirm with me what LM did you use, and if any advice you would like to share with me while removing the old phase change liquid would be greatful.

And really shot out to you for making this post
 
This LT-100 I have used for 3 years and found to be excellent. Stable with no temperature degradation or tendency to migrate. It is not as "runny" as others (Cry or Not) of its type so spreads smoothly. 3 g is the bonus buy! Use Acetone for all cleaning of parts. Acetone will not harm you and only on very rare occasions would a person have a bad reaction. Reason being-it Etches (super cleans) the copper. PUT THE Liquid Metal ONTO THE SPREADING BRUSH (not the cpu or gpu) AWAY FROM YOUR RIG. Then apply to your components. If applying to bare copper scuff lightly with 400 grit wet and dry cloth soaked in acetone until dull-blushed appearance. Wash thoroughly with acetone and dry. Apply a WET coat onto copper and "work" into heatsink for 10-20 minutes in a circuler motion with a goodly amount of pressure. 2nd wet coat and let sit minimum 4-6 hours. Wipe excess off with DRY cloth. Copper should now have a dull grey to blushed silvery look. Now spread an even coat before final assembly. Use a Masked=Stenciled heatsink contact patch EXACTLY matching the CPU-GPU die dimensions, this being the most important step. Truth:
A 6-8 year old child with proper instruction should be able to perform this procedure on any platform with no problems.
OR:
Do you have nightmares of rolling down a mountainside in a blob of LM, headed for an inevitable collision with a 500 KV power line.
When first adopted the early users never took the time to research the product they were using and their failures got all the Negative reports on youtube and the net. Well thats just so much BS because LM is the greatest thing since ? punkin pie. You still find the Negative reviews more prevalent. The thing is on most threads you read you got nay sayers who simply do not have a clue or have ever attempted the process. Losers!


lt 100 liquid metal - Buy lt 100 liquid metal with free shipping on AliExpress

Quality lt 100 liquid metal with free worldwide shipping on AliExpress
www.aliexpress.com www.aliexpress.com
 
Last edited:
hello guys, today windows update has updated my firmware to version E17K4IMS.207 but I can not find it on the official website, do you have news about it?
 
hmm - interesting - what is changelog for this 207? And how did you get it?! Windows update gives nothing.
What is the exactly difference for you after 206?

PS. official site keep silence - only 206 "old" version!?

Here BELOW is the UPDATE BIOS MSI SITE LINK: only 206?

MSI Global - The Leading Brand in High-end Gaming & Professional Creation

As a world leading gaming brand, MSI is the most trusted name in gaming and eSports. We stand by our principles of breakthroughs in design, and roll out the amazing gaming gear like motherboards, graphics cards, laptops and desktops.
www.msi.com www.msi.com
 
Last edited:
cyberalex10154702dd said:
hmm - interesting - what is changelog for this 207? And how did you get it?! Windows update gives nothing.
What is the exactly difference for you after 206?

PS. official site keep silence - only 206 "old" version!?

Here BELOW is the UPDATE BIOS MSI SITE LINK: only 206?

MSI Global - The Leading Brand in High-end Gaming & Professional Creation

As a world leading gaming brand, MSI is the most trusted name in gaming and eSports. We stand by our principles of breakthroughs in design, and roll out the amazing gaming gear like motherboards, graphics cards, laptops and desktops.
www.msi.com www.msi.com
Click to expand...

its under Windows update and other updates found it :) ”microstar firmware”
 
ok - found it too, w11 is made it quite deep.

@cyberalex10154702dd
I don’t know what is changed…
i’m not an expert.. only I see are the bench and the temperature I’ve post
[/QUOTE]


did you see temp improvements?
 
cyberalex10154702dd said:
ok - found it too, w11 is made it quite deep.

@cyberalex10154702dd
I don’t know what is changed…
i’m not an expert.. only I see are the bench and the temperature I’ve post
Click to expand...


did you see temp improvements?
[/QUOTE]
with same PL1 and PL2 (45/65) with 206 BIOS i did 11.300 in Cinebench23
with this Bios i did 13.774 same as @PL1: 75 / PL2: 80 with BIOS 206
 
[/QUOTE]
with same PL1 and PL2 (45/65) with 206 BIOS i did 11.300 in Cinebench23
with this Bios i did 13.774 same as @PL1: 75 / PL2: 80 with BIOS 206
[/QUOTE]
ok, updated to 207 trough windows update. No changelog anywhere yet.

Sp, let me know pls - what is your fan were: extreme? No undervolt right? No cooling pad?
Strange - your CoreTemp prog shows 45W not 65W ?! When I started 45-65W - it was always 65W.

Why don't you use HwInfo free software ? Much better app and more standard nowadays! Could you try download and after - expand temps and do Cinebench23 & share pls?
I am going to.
 
with same PL1 and PL2 (45/65) with 206 BIOS i did 11.300 in Cinebench23
with this Bios i did 13.774 same as @PL1: 75 / PL2: 80 with BIOS 206
[/QUOTE]
ok, updated to 207 trough windows update. No changelog anywhere yet.

Sp, let me know pls - what is your fan were: extreme? No undervolt right? No cooling pad?
Strange - your CoreTemp prog shows 45W not 65W ?! When I started 45-65W - it was always 65W.

Why don't you use HwInfo free software ? Much better app and more standard nowadays! Could you try download and after - expand temps and do Cinebench23 & share pls?
I am going to.
[/QUOTE]
Hi, ok, like this?
FAN MODE: BALANCED
UNDERVOLT: NO
COOLING PAD: NO
i've ONLY setted PL1: 45 / PL2: 65
cinebench.png
hwinfo.png
temp.png
 
Last edited:
Back
Top