GE76 CPU 12th Gen Temperatures

I have the same temps as before. I dont care about the spikes. The avg temp is 76 after a few hours gameplay. Avg fan speed is 3000 rpm on Both CPU and GPU. My CPU is running PL1/PL2 @ 45w (throttlestop). Almost Always on 4082mhz CPU freq in game .

Im testing balanced mode right now. So gpu temp is 70-71c @ 125w. If i run performance mode i get about same CPU-temp but 2-3c more on the gpu (150w all the time in game)

performance mode= 150w gpu and 45 watt CPU@4082 mhz.

balanced mode = 125w gpu and 45w CPU@4082 mhz

pretty happy with these Numbers given i Cant undervolt. Enough power for me in balanced and if i need more its an easy fix. Just pick performance mode.

Barely notice the fans without headphones and cant hear them at all with headphones. :)
 
Its possible to change the core frequency in throttlestop after some tweaking in bios on the 12700h. I can now set any frequency and set them all to 4100mhz and now the 100c spikes are gone. When playing the CPU is always on 4089mhz and dont spike up to 4700mhz and 100c :)
 
VectorX said:
Can you share the settings screenshot, bec in my bios, there are manu multipier options and I'm confused :D
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Base any decisions as to how hot its running on Current and Average read outs. Maximum temps only happening before Power System Drivers kick in. Like when you start up your computer, the CPU runs at full power till the OS power program loads drivers and takes control. Watch the temperatures when doing an encode or?. After the initial spike and the drivers load,the temperatures in Current stay well within limits and not varying by much. eg:
If I have HWinfo64 running in the background and start an encode, I will get a Maximum reading of 90+xxxx on the readout ( before LM TIM).
If I start the encode and THEN open up HWinfo64, the maximum 90+xxxx reading will no longer show because I have dodged that spike when the drivers are loading. Instead you will have a Maximum reading closely matching your Current reading which will remain constant during the process.
My GL63-9SDK i7 6 core had prochot set to 95c in the TStop readout. Thats what MSI sets it at for that particular computer,but they didnt have it nickel plated and Liquid Metal TIM. The Intel specs on that CPU are 100c. In TStop I offset that prochot setting 3 degrees to 98c, ran Win power level at Balanced all the time and never had Red Readouts again. Box stock Factory settings and auto fan.
Ooops! I did replace the Blue "Gorilla Snot" on the coldplate and CPU with Thermalrite Odyesse 12 m/wk pads, .05 GPU - .10 CPU.
 
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lookertoo151a02d7 said:
Base any decisions as to how hot its running on Current and Average read outs. Maximum temps only happening before Power System Drivers kick in. Like when you start up your computer, the CPU runs at full power till the OS power program loads drivers and takes control. Watch the temperatures when doing an encode or?. After the initial spike and the drivers load,the temperatures in Current stay well within limits and not varying by much. eg:
If I have HWinfo64 running in the background and start an encode, I will get a Maximum reading of 90+xxxx on the readout ( before LM TIM).
If I start the encode and THEN open up HWinfo64, the maximum 90+xxxx reading will no longer show because I have dodged that spike when the drivers are loading. Instead you will have a Maximum reading closely matching your Current reading which will remain constant during the process.
My GL63-9SDK i7 6 core had prochot set to 95c in the TStop readout. Thats what MSI sets it at for that particular computer,but they didnt have it nickel plated and Liquid Metal TIM. The Intel specs on that CPU are 100c. In TStop I offset that prochot setting 3 degrees to 98c, ran Win power level at Balanced all the time and never had Red Readouts again. Box stock Factory settings and auto fan.
Ooops! I did replace the Blue "Gorilla Snot" on the coldplate and CPU with Thermalrite Odyesse 12 m/wk pads, .05 GPU - .10 CPU.
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Even when im monitoring and resetting monitoring values mid game etc i get short spikes to 100c. But it never stays there of course. Thats easy to tweak. Dont really think its that bad. Just bothers me :)

avg is, as you pointed out more important. Normal for me is 67-75 depending on game after 1 hour+
 
Take a look at reve HWifo64 post up above. From my experience I say he is running in a acceptable temp range. What is not good is the wide spread in temperatures of the individual cores. He has a Low of 62c and a High of 72c on 6 cores in the Average lane which doesnt change much during a process.Thats a whopping 10c and WAY out of line. To me that says he has very poor and uneven contact between Die and Heatsink, Uneven Pasting, twisted cooling module, etc. My Gt75 Titan has Nickel plated heatsink with LT-100 Liquid Metal TIM. The LM gets rid of forever those temp variances between cores and eliminates those Spikes which normal or poorly applied Pastes cant. Below is an hour into a Handbrake Video Encode. Not even breathing hard! Auto Fan!
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lookertoo151a02d7 said:
Take a look at reve HWifo64 post up above. From my experience I say he is running in a acceptable temp range. What is not good is the wide spread in temperatures of the individual cores. He has a Low of 62c and a High of 72c on 6 cores in the Average lane which doesnt change much during a process.Thats a whopping 10c and WAY out of line. To me that says he has very poor and uneven contact between Die and Heatsink, Uneven Pasting, twisted cooling module, etc. My Gt75 Titan has Nickel plated heatsink with LT-100 Liquid Metal TIM. The LM gets rid of forever those temp variances between cores and eliminates those Spikes which normal or poorly applied Pastes cant. Below is an hour into a Handbrake Video Encode. Not even breathing hard! Auto Fan!View attachment 159401
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You just have To do this bullshit LM [***CENSORED***] in every thread? You dont even have 12gen so Why are you spamming every 12gen thread with this bullshit?

I have better/lower avg and lower highs than you with 14 cores. So wow. Im really impressed by your 4-core temps. Bet everyone else is to 😂
 
lookertoo151a02d7 said:
Simply makes you show your true colors!
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probally pretty bad idea telling everyone what your doing. Soon we Will have many people with broken laptops.

LM is no Magic. And you still cant compare 6c vs 14c and different generations and in this case a new technology with the 12gen.

Difference of 10c between cores is normal (peak value difference) 20-30c difference not so much.

Also Different games/programs load the CPU different. Cant be compared with an even load of 100% on all cores. Then probally the coretemps would be more even.

for goods sake. Stop repaisting or tell people to repaist brand new 3-4000 dollar computers.

change the PL1/PL2 instead. Totally free and totally failsafe.
 
akuzacj158a02e3 said:
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i've found this under other updates in Win Update setting, is this what you guys installed? kinda weird that it doesn't even say what it is exactly, but MSI firmware
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Finally- official site slow pocks RELEASED after Windows UPDATE 1 week after

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;; MSI BIOS Release Notes ;;
;; ;;
;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;

Model : MS-17K4
MKT Name : Raider GE76 12UGS,Raider GE76 12UH,Raider GE76 12UHS

;****************************************************************************;

New BIOS : E17K4IMS.207
ROM CheckSum : 0x41A1
Release Date : 2022.5.6

;--------------------------- Description ------------------------------------;

1.Improve system stability.

PS. in version 206 they improved system stability by removing Throttle stop support - changing Voltage in software. haha.
 
palusajoakim198157102de said:
probally pretty bad idea telling everyone what your doing. Soon we Will have many people with broken laptops.

LM is no Magic. And you still cant compare 6c vs 14c and different generations and in this case a new technology with the 12gen.

Difference of 10c between cores is normal (peak value difference) 20-30c difference not so much.

Also Different games/programs load the CPU different. Cant be compared with an even load of 100% on all cores. Then probally the coretemps would be more even.

for goods sake. Stop repaisting or tell people to repaist brand new 3-4000 dollar computers.

change the PL1/PL2 instead. Totally free and totally failsafe.
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I'm not sure what are you talking about!

MSI Support confirmed this is not normal! and I'm on RMA process
 
palusajoakim198157102de said:
probally pretty bad idea telling everyone what your doing. Soon we Will have many people with broken laptops.

LM is no Magic. And you still cant compare 6c vs 14c and different generations and in this case a new technology with the 12gen.

Difference of 10c between cores is normal (peak value difference) 20-30c difference not so much.

Also Different games/programs load the CPU different. Cant be compared with an even load of 100% on all cores. Then probally the coretemps would be more even.

for goods sake. Stop repaisting or tell people to repaist brand new 3-4000 dollar computers.

change the PL1/PL2 instead. Totally free and totally failsafe.
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New Technology?? Phones have had "Piggy Back" CPUs for years. The original poster had temperature problems so I answered. Temperature is temperature and remedies for handling the problem has got nothing to do with generations or amount of cores.
Do you have an understanding of how a "Hybrid" CPU even works?? I dont think so from what im reading.
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cyberalex10154702dd said:
Finally- official site slow pocks RELEASED after Windows UPDATE 1 week after

=======================================================================================

;; MSI BIOS Release Notes ;;
;; ;;
;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;

Model : MS-17K4
MKT Name : Raider GE76 12UGS,Raider GE76 12UH,Raider GE76 12UHS

;****************************************************************************;

New BIOS : E17K4IMS.207
ROM CheckSum : 0x41A1
Release Date : 2022.5.6

;--------------------------- Description ------------------------------------;

1.Improve system stability.

PS. in version 206 they improved system stability by removing Throttle stop support - changing Voltage in software. haha.
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throttlestop works fine.
lookertoo151a02d7 said:
New Technology?? Phones have had "Piggy Back" CPUs for years. The original poster had temperature problems so I answered. Temperature is temperature and remedies for handling the problem has got nothing to do with generations or amount of cores.
Do you have an understanding of how a "Hybrid" CPU even works?? I dont think so from what im reading.
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More cores = more power
More power = more heat
higher frequency = more heat

read up.

opening up a brand new laptop and putting LM on is stupid. The temps you are showing isnt even good? 3,2 ghz and 84-85c ? I run 4,1ghz on same temps so what are you trying to prove?

you cant compare different generations… Its not relevant at all. Not even close.
 
akuzacj158a02e3 said:
Really wonder how they gonna fix it, ill try to replicate this on my machine and see how it does
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I've ordered thermal grizzly conduct and gonna apply it first, if it didn't fix the issue, I will send it to them.

Bec I'm based in slovenia and I ordered it from Amazon, and I'm using it for work, and to be honest, I do not have time to waste waiting 3 weeks in the process, considering I already opened the chase to add new storage drive, don't know what they gonna say when I send it now

Really thank you for trying, but I do not know if would be possible for you to reproduce that since you already applied new LM
 
Btw, is one gram enough for cpu and the heat sink? Or I should use more?

The gpu is fine, I won't repaste it
 
VectorX said:
I've ordered thermal grizzly conduct and gonna apply it first, if it didn't fix the issue, I will send it to them.

Bec I'm based in slovenia and I ordered it from Amazon, and I'm using it for work, and to be honest, I do not have time to waste waiting 3 weeks in the process, considering I already opened the chase to add new storage drive, don't know what they gonna say when I send it now

Really thank you for trying, but I do not know if would be possible for you to reproduce that since you already applied new LM
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if you repaste yourself I think you will loose the warranty, so they might not accept it...

i have the i7 version but I think it will be similar the temps spiking to around 100c are pretty normal for 12gen intel afaik...
 

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