GP66 Stuttering

alexande153f02d6

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I experience stuttering in every game, i.e. Cyberpunk seems like freezes every 1 sec.
I managed to fix the problem with reinstalling GPU drivers every reboot, but if laptop goes to hybernation and back the problem comes back, and i have to repeat reboot+reinstalling again.
If I just reboot, without reinstalling, the problem wont go, so it isn't overheating, it stutters even at idle temps.
I've tried completely wipe HDD with full reinstailling OS from scratch, that doesn't fix the problem. Tried different gpu drivers, my current version is 496.49, but it also happens on 512.15.

My specs: win10(without any MSI software, fresh install), MSI gp66 Leopard, i7-11800H, rtx 3080 8gb, 16gb ram, stock ssd.

Did anyone had same issues and managed to fix them?
 

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I have the same exact problem with an 11th gen gp66 with 3070.
Cyberpunk would freeze every 2 secs even with high fps. This is in discrete graphics mode on an external monitor.

Reverting to Nvidia 511.23 drivers worked.

Oddly enough, the stuttering is only in Discrete graphics mode. When I switch to MSHybrid graphics, CP2077 runs smooth as butter even with the latest NVIDIA drivers. This is with an external monitor so it is running in Dgpu (orange light) but in Mshybrid mode. There should by a perfomance penalty running Mshydrid but its stutter free.

I would assume discrete GPU would give the highest performance. But it cyberpunk stutters like crazy, so I play in MShybrid mode and it smooth. Weird, wonder if any can explain this.
 

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I have the same exact problem with an 11th gen gp66 with 3070.
Cyberpunk would freeze every 2 secs even with high fps. This is in discrete graphics mode on an external monitor.

Reverting to Nvidia 511.23 drivers worked.

Oddly enough, the stuttering is only in Discrete graphics mode. When I switch to MSHybrid graphics, CP2077 runs smooth as butter even with the latest NVIDIA drivers. This is with an external monitor so it is running in Dgpu (orange light) but in Mshybrid mode. There should by a perfomance penalty running Mshydrid but its stutter free.

I would assume discrete GPU would give the highest performance. But it cyberpunk stutters like crazy, so I play in MShybrid mode and it smooth. Weird, wonder if any can explain this.
i have gp76 with same configuration with latest drivers and i have no problems.


 
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Maybe you can try to roll back the Intel and Nvidia graphics to the versions released on msi webstie.
Remember to reinstall the graphics drivers with DDU tool.
If the problem is not caused by temperature, then it may be graphics drivers or power, use HWiNFO to check if the CPU/GPU power drops while running cyberpunk.
 

alexande153f02d6

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Switching to Mshybrid solved the problem, games run much more smoothly. Borderlands 3 doesnt stutter either. Didn't notice any performance penalties to be honest.
 

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I'm definitely curious why gp66 MShybrid runs buttery smooth (even high demand titles like cp2077), but discrete gpu is a stuttering mess on my external monitor. You would think discrete would give the best performance. My guess is gysnc/freesync implementation is somehow messed up in discrete mode.
 
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first of all, who even named it discrete gpu mode, shouldn't this be called dedicated gpu or something, discrete suggests it's quieter, lower performance etc, while in reality it should be the opposite

either way glad you guys solved it and that it was only a matter of the drivers...
 

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not solved for me, my laptop is MSI gp66 leopard RTX 3060 6GB i7-11800H. I using discrete and then i change to MSHybrid graphics mode, but still got stuttering fps for fivem roleplay.
 
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not solved for me, my laptop is MSI gp66 leopard RTX 3060 6GB i7-11800H. I using discrete and then i change to MSHybrid graphics mode, but still got stuttering fps for fivem roleplay.
Most of time, the stutter issue is related to laptop performance. Did you confirm that your laptop's performance is OK?
Does the stutter issue only happen to this game?
 
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I also have this problem. Vector GP66 12UH nvidia 3080. Happens only with external display connected both while gaming and just browsing internet. External display has the same resolution as internal one, both running at 60hz. Switching refresh rates changes nothing, same thing happened when I tested two different displays (1080p 60hz). Temperatures are fine (50-60 C). I'm playing mostly Path of Exile and it has those detailed statistics about components' usage, it clearly shows CPU has extreme latency during stuttering phases (despite Task Manager showing CPU usage below 10% and fans don't run rampant nor temperature goes up). Usually it goes like that - I play for 5 minutes, everything is fine then out of blue I get ~5 fps and computer slows so much even youtube video in the background freezes and cursor loses fluidity, after some time it goes back to normal and in another few minutes I'm getting lags again despite CPU, GPU, disk and RAM usage being relatively low.
Switching from discrete to hybrid in MSI Center mostly fixed the issue, however "something" is still there. Lags because of CPU still happen, but fps in game drops from stable 60 to 45-55 for few seconds from time to time, while in-game CPU statistics shows some latency. Task manager informs about System Interrupts (in discreet mode no unusual activity shows up) using up as much as 40% of CPU during those but overall CPU usage in Task Manager shows less than 60% so it shouldn't slow down, right? I'm not an expert but it feels like CPU can't get enough power, it still technically has "room" for more action, it just won't get there.
I got all updates installed, tried fully reinstalling w11. No change.
 
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I also have this problem. Vector GP66 12UH nvidia 3080. Happens only with external display connected both while gaming and just browsing internet. External display has the same resolution as internal one, both running at 60hz. Switching refresh rates changes nothing, same thing happened when I tested two different displays (1080p 60hz). Temperatures are fine (50-60 C). I'm playing mostly Path of Exile and it has those detailed statistics about components' usage, it clearly shows CPU has extreme latency during stuttering phases (despite Task Manager showing CPU usage below 10% and fans don't run rampant nor temperature goes up). Usually it goes like that - I play for 5 minutes, everything is fine then out of blue I get ~5 fps and computer slows so much even youtube video in the background freezes and cursor loses fluidity, after some time it goes back to normal and in another few minutes I'm getting lags again despite CPU, GPU, disk and RAM usage being relatively low.
Switching from discrete to hybrid in MSI Center mostly fixed the issue, however "something" is still there. Lags because of CPU still happen, but fps in game drops from stable 60 to 45-55 for few seconds from time to time, while in-game CPU statistics shows some latency. Task manager informs about System Interrupts (in discreet mode no unusual activity shows up) using up as much as 40% of CPU during those but overall CPU usage in Task Manager shows less than 60% so it shouldn't slow down, right? I'm not an expert but it feels like CPU can't get enough power, it still technically has "room" for more action, it just won't get there.
I got all updates installed, tried fully reinstalling w11. No change.
Do you mean you have fps drop issue (60-> 5) while playing Path of Exile and connecting to the external monitor display in Discrete graphics mode?
Did you try to reinstall Intel and Nvidia graphics driver from MSI websiter and recheck?
Regarding CPU perfromance, it is recommended to use Cinebench R20 to test and compare to the reviewer.
 
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Yes, I have fps drops while playing the game in discreet mode with external display, BUT it's not only while I play games in discreet mode. When I just browse web in discreet mode fps drops also happen, just less often.
I tried reinstalling drivers and I tried completely reinstalling w11.
I have no issue with overall performance of the laptop, Path of Exile is an extremely laggy game sometimes but it holds stable 60fps even during really laggy moments, stuttering happens regardless of usage. I can get fps drops in my hideout which is really non-demanding in-game place but I get to extremely spec-needy maps and it's stable.
 
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Basically the stutter issue is related to thermal throttling, laptop performance, graphics driver, game setting, power setting..etc.
It is recommended to check all of them. Did you try to check the performance while connecting the external monitor in discrete mode and compare to without connecting the external monitor?
BTW, I am curious how you know fps drop while you were browing.
 
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Basically the stutter issue is related to thermal throttling, laptop performance, graphics driver, game setting, power setting..etc.
Temperatures are always okay like I said in previous post, hardware usage is low in stuttering phases, I've installed three different versions of graphic driver and none changed a thing. My power settings are all in high performance mode.

Did you try to check the performance while connecting the external monitor in discrete mode and compare to without connecting the external monitor?
Yes, I did. Issue happens ONLY with external display connected. As soon as I disconnect HDMI cable it's instantly back to normal.

I am curious how you know fps drop while you were browing.
Because everything is laggy, youtube video stops and mouse loses fluidity. It's literally impossible to lag such a laptop with two or three news sites and a 480p youtube video in the background.

Like I said before, with external display connected once a while laptop slows down extremely for no reason at all, it lasts for few seconds in hybrid mode and few minutes in discrete.
 
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Temperatures are always okay like I said in previous post, hardware usage is low in stuttering phases, I've installed three different versions of graphic driver and none changed a thing. My power settings are all in high performance mode.


Yes, I did. Issue happens ONLY with external display connected. As soon as I disconnect HDMI cable it's instantly back to normal.


Because everything is laggy, youtube video stops and mouse loses fluidity. It's literally impossible to lag such a laptop with two or three news sites and a 480p youtube video in the background.

Like I said before, with external display connected once a while laptop slows down extremely for no reason at all, it lasts for few seconds in hybrid mode and few minutes in discrete.
Tried connecting the different monitor?
 
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Tried connecting the different monitor?
Yes, I tried different displays with different resolutions like I said in:
I also have this problem. Vector GP66 12UH nvidia 3080. Happens only with external display connected both while gaming and just browsing internet. External display has the same resolution as internal one, both running at 60hz. Switching refresh rates changes nothing, same thing happened when I tested two different displays (1080p 60hz).
Today morning I entered BIOS and switched off Intel Speed Shift (it was enabled by default) and it seems like that option was causing problems. Since I disabled it I noticed no stuttering for entire day, but for some weird reason in exchange for fluidity I can't change refresh rate on external display above 60hz while laptop is running. Screen goes black and it is not detected by the system, didn't happen before. If I restart laptop it works for some time, half an hour, 10 minutes, then goes black and I have to restart laptop again or reset external display to factory settings. It doesn't matter if I'm playing a really taxing game or just browsing web. Internal display works at 60hz or 165hz without issues.
I've tested this display on my previous laptop with nvidia 1050 and it works just fine at 60, 120 and 144hz. It's not display's fault and I'm 100% sure.
If I had to guess there's something wrong with integrated graphic card or so called "power saving" utilities build into laptops. I have no idea why are there so many of these built in, those aren't machines meant for running notepad for 20 hours straight without a charger.
 
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Yes, I tried different displays with different resolutions like I said in:

Today morning I entered BIOS and switched off Intel Speed Shift (it was enabled by default) and it seems like that option was causing problems. Since I disabled it I noticed no stuttering for entire day, but for some weird reason in exchange for fluidity I can't change refresh rate on external display above 60hz while laptop is running. Screen goes black and it is not detected by the system, didn't happen before. If I restart laptop it works for some time, half an hour, 10 minutes, then goes black and I have to restart laptop again or reset external display to factory settings. It doesn't matter if I'm playing a really taxing game or just browsing web. Internal display works at 60hz or 165hz without issues.
I've tested this display on my previous laptop with nvidia 1050 and it works just fine at 60, 120 and 144hz. It's not display's fault and I'm 100% sure.
If I had to guess there's something wrong with integrated graphic card or so called "power saving" utilities build into laptops. I have no idea why are there so many of these built in, those aren't machines meant for running notepad for 20 hours straight without a charger.
Did you check the laptop performance (CPU & GPU) while switching Discrete graphics mode with the external monitor?
If the perferformance is normal. the problem might be related to the game optimization issue. It can help you to narrow down the cause.
The laptop's performane seems normal in normal condition but you do not know if the performance will be impacted in the specific condition.
You can share the video about the behavior when you use the browser. If it is the game optimization issue, it basically will not impact the browser.
 
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