GPU fan speed below 30%?

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I usually prefer to bump similar threads, but that has been made clear that that shouldn't be done here.

My current graphics card is the MSI Radeon RX 6500 XT 4GB.
Although I don't think I will need to change things in the Bios, for information, my motherboard is the Gigabyte B550M .

This card compared to my previous EVGA GTX1650 does run cooler, but it is so much louder. When running my old card on around 30%, it was not audible. The RX6500 certainly is.


What I'm wanting is a program for windows 10 that allows you to control the RPM of the fan to well below 30%. I know what this card can run at as i also have Ubuntu and use a program called corectrl which allowed me to turn the rpm right down to the minimum speed the fan would allow. It will go down to 9% and then anything lower would result in stop-start bursts. But anything below 15% is quiet enough for me not to really notice.

The issue I'm faced with is that many programs in windows that I have tried have really annoying limits on things.
AMD radeon software has a zero RPM option that if you want to use it, the temperature it cuts off at is fixed at 50%. This is irritating as the fan speed is loud even at the lowest it can go (around 30%) and on games where the temperature is around 50, it cuts out, then when it powers back on, it sounds like an engine starting and sort of revs for a bit before going back down to the required RPM, then of course soon goes off again - and so on repeatedly. I want to avoid this by having it running all the time. The only other option on this program is to disable the 0 rpm, which then results in the GPU fans being on 30% all the time which is louder than my other PC fans which i spent a lot of money on to make sure they were quiet models.

I tried MSI afterburner, but it is clear that that cannot go below 30% eather. The difference in volume is just too large between 30% and off that I really need a program that allows it to rotate at a much lower RPM.

I also tried a program named Argus Monitor, and I was aware that it was a program you need to pay for but I thought I may as well test the trial version. It looks pretty advanced, but I couldn't get it to work.

Surely there must be a way in windows to control the fans more than I have managed? One of the main reasons I switched to windows was so that it could support more games and have more advanced overclocking programs - but the one and only thing I want to do with these is set a custom fan curve similar to what is in the screenshot attatched. I can't find a program in windows that lets me do this yet.

Any advice?
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May have a bit of luck with more power tools but it can be fiddly and cause GPU to run a a fixed 500MHz if you get it wrong
But it has many setting you can tweak.
I use it to increase my Power limits on the 6800 from a max of 240 watt to 260 watt as well as Fclk from 1575 to 1625
And I have a Zero Fan setting as well
and Igor Labs has a good tutorial and Forum support

Please note Learn how it works before you use it
You Use it at your own Risk
And Moderators nor MSI or any other Forum User can be responsible if things go bad.

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That does look like it has more options. It is certainly the case that I don't know that much about this stuff. One reason why I don't want to tweak things to try and improve performance. It is only because I find the noise irritating that I want to even have anything to do with the graphics card settings.

it just seems surprising that it is so simple in ubuntu with this very card, i can have the speed down to just under 10% in corectrl. Maybe there are some settings in windows somwehere that don't allow it to go under 30%? This to me seems like a simple enough thing that I should realistically be able to change without doing anything risky. As I know what the performance of the graphics card is like with the profile for fan speeds in Ubuntu.

if I try this program out, would I still be able to set a custom fan curve with spesific speeds for temps like i have shown? I will try to do more reasearch, but I really feel this should be more simple than I'm finding it as I only want to do this one thing.

edit - reading more about this program and seeing information such as it not supposed to be for regular users or every day use for example makes me think this is probably overkill for what I need. There was another program in Ubuntu that I used several months back called GreenWithEnvy and that would also let you select any fan rpm you wanted, without there being a restriction. The fans would just stop - start if you went too low, which although it was annoying, it still functioned. These programs however required root access and certain commands in the terminal to allow them to work.

Is there something in windows I'm missing or are many of the programs really this limiting? The fan RPM seems to only allow a minimum of around 2300 with this card which I think is crazy. On Ubuntu I can get it down to around 1100 or so making it unaudible and keeping the system far cooler than when it goes into it's 0 rpm mode in windows.
 
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That does look like it has more options. It is certainly the case that I don't know that much about this stuff. One reason why I don't want to tweak things to try and improve performance. It is only because I find the noise irritating that I want to even have anything to do with the graphics card settings.

it just seems surprising that it is so simple in ubuntu with this very card, i can have the speed down to just under 10% in corectrl. Maybe there are some settings in windows somwehere that don't allow it to go under 30%? This to me seems like a simple enough thing that I should realistically be able to change without doing anything risky. As I know what the performance of the graphics card is like with the profile for fan speeds in Ubuntu.

if I try this program out, would I still be able to set a custom fan curve with spesific speeds for temps like i have shown? I will try to do more reasearch, but I really feel this should be more simple than I'm finding it as I only want to do this one thing.

edit - reading more about this program and seeing information such as it not supposed to be for regular users or every day use for example makes me think this is probably overkill for what I need. There was another program in Ubuntu that I used several months back called GreenWithEnvy and that would also let you select any fan rpm you wanted, without there being a restriction. The fans would just stop - start if you went too low, which although it was annoying, it still functioned. These programs however required root access and certain commands in the terminal to allow them to work.

Is there something in windows I'm missing or are many of the programs really this limiting? The fan RPM seems to only allow a minimum of around 2300 with this card which I think is crazy. On Ubuntu I can get it down to around 1100 or so making it unaudible and keeping the system far cooler than when it goes into it's 0 rpm mode in windows.
Once you set the fan max and min you want to use in More Power tools you use the Normal AMD software to set you fan curve I don't use Afterburner as it never seems to play nice with AMD cards And have not had a need to change the fan setting for my GPU.

Just tweaking the setting highlighted works drop min from 20% to 10% in settings Looks like minimum fan speed for my GPU is 11% as would not spin if set to 10%. So I will be setting it at 15%
Like I said you need to be careful and do it bit by bit
Program also resets to default Bios setting when you do a Driver update.

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Many thanks for this. When I experimented in Ubuntu with this card with corectrl, i wanted to find out what the minimum rpm was, and it does seem that this card can go as low as 9%, so I would either set it to that or 10% instead of having the 0rpm option below 50 degrees.

Although I am mostly used to it now, I found the AMD software rather confusing as I didn't know that mesures the junction temperature for the fan curve and yet the main temperature it shows in the non advanced settings is the GPU. I just tweaked things a bit and it is now more or less the same curve as I have in corectrl in linux - aside from the fact the fans cut out at 50 degrees.

It is reassuring to see that you have been able to reduce the PWM in the AMD software by doing what you say in MorePowerTool. At least it means that I shouldn't constantly need to be looking around in that program.

I am aware I need to be careful. I will install morepowertool again and have a look at it.

Given I just want to adjust the fan spped, is there anything else I need to do other than what you have highlighted? - I will again try the minimum at 20% first an then keep goign down bit by bit.

One part of your comment I do need to understand better is what you mentioned regarding the default bios setting when doign a driver update. Is this just meaning at any point i update graphics drivers, this program will likely bring back the restrictions to the GPU fans not going lower than 30%? If so, I guess that is fair enough and I can just set it back again.


Many thanks.


I've attatched a shot of the curve I have. I prefer the fans to be a the same speed so the sound doesn't keep changing while gaming - even if it means that they are quite loud even when not under that much load. It is at the stage it gets rather hot that I then know than by the sound change, and that hasn't happened yet so I think I'm fine with this. It vertually never goes over 70 degrees (GPU tempeature).
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Having looked at tuturials on how to install this, something seems to be missing on mine - unless i am missing an obvious step. I can't see my graphics card in this dropdown menu. From videos online, once the card is selected, you then have all the options you have shown me. I'm unsure why I can't see anything.
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Having looked at tuturials on how to install this, something seems to be missing on mine - unless i am missing an obvious step. I can't see my graphics card in this dropdown menu. From videos online, once the card is selected, you then have all the options you have shown me. I'm unsure why I can't see anything.
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You need to Make a copy of your GPU bios first use GPU-Z and load that bios file I have 3 copies of mine two on my PC and one on Google Drive once you have that done you can make the change and wright to SPPT this is a registry setting only doesn't write to V-Bios.
Reboot system and you will see you have the option to set fan to new settings in AMD Software

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You need to Make a copy of your GPU bios first use GPU-Z and load that bios file I have 3 copies of mine two on my PC and one on Google Drive once you have that done you can make the change and wright to SPPT this is a registry setting only doesn't write to V-Bios.
Reboot system and you will see you have the option to set fan to new settings in AMD Software

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Thanks for the informatition. However, I understand very little of this. I'm unsure about my GPU bios or what to do with it, then I don't the rest either. I will probably have to have more simple, broken down steps or view a tutorial somehwhere. There is nothing that I want to tweak that should be harmful for the card, I just wish the process was easier to enable to lower RPM.


Thanks.
 
I've tried to do more hunting around this week but still don't understand what i need to do with my GPU bios or what GPU-Z is. I've also looked tuturials on how to set up more powertool and ti seems many of the comments are stuck in a similar place to me and not knowing what or where this navi 21.rom is.

Again, I would appreciate if you could provide some broken down steps to do what is required to get my graphics card accessible to this morepowertools program.


Thanks.
 
I've tried to do more hunting around this week but still don't understand what i need to do with my GPU bios or what GPU-Z is. I've also looked tuturials on how to set up more powertool and ti seems many of the comments are stuck in a similar place to me and not knowing what or where this navi 21.rom is.

Again, I would appreciate if you could provide some broken down steps to do what is required to get my graphics card accessible to this morepowertools program.


Thanks.
TechPower up GPU-Z
Click on the arrow and select save to file, save file to Desktop and then Open More powertoos and select the file you saved to desktop.


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TechPower up GPU-Z
Click on the arrow and select save to file, save file to Desktop and then Open More powertoos and select the file you saved to desktop.


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Many thanks for this. It does seem simple enough to follow. I however seem to be left with the message as shown in the screenshot. I will explain the steps I went ahead with in case I did something wrong.


1: Downloaded and installed TechPower up GPU-Z.

2: Saved a copy of the bios version you highlighted into a folder on my desktop that i created named bios version.

3: Opened MorePowerTool

4: Clicked load and went to the path I saved the bios version in (Navi 24.rom) and selected it.

5: Message instantly pops stating "not supported"

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I write it like this just so it is clear what I have done. I'm not good at fully understanding instructions so I just want to be sure if I'm missing something here or not.


Thanks.
 
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Many thanks for this. It does seem simple enough to follow. I however seem to be left with the message as shown in the screenshot. I will explain the steps I went ahead with in case I did something wrong.


1: Downloaded and installed TechPower up GPU-Z.

2: Saved a copy of the bios version you highlighted into a folder on my desktop that i created named bios version.

3: Opened MorePowerTool

4: Clicked load and went to the path I saved the bios version in (Navi 24.rom) and selected it.

5: Message instantly pops stating "not supported"

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I write it like this just so it is clear what I have done. I'm not good at fully understanding instructions so I just want to be sure if I'm missing something here or not.


Thanks.
Not sure I grabbed a copy of a MSI RX 6500XT of Techpowerup and it did load,
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just wondering if there is anything else I needed to do in techpowerup that you have possibly done. I've tried doing the same as i did again including a reboot and it still says not supported.
Not that I know of is just to get a copy of the VBIOS so you can load the changes you want in to the Windows Registry. No changes are made to the FILE of to the GPU VBIOS just adds some Registry Tweaks.
 
I usually prefer to bump similar threads, but that has been made clear that that shouldn't be done here.

My current graphics card is the MSI Radeon RX 6500 XT 4GB.
Although I don't think I will need to change things in the Bios, for information, my motherboard is the Gigabyte B550M .

This card compared to my previous EVGA GTX1650 does run cooler, but it is so much louder. When running my old card on around 30%, it was not audible. The RX6500 certainly is.


What I'm wanting is a program for windows 10 that allows you to control the RPM of the fan to well below 30%. I know what this card can run at as i also have Ubuntu and use a program called corectrl which allowed me to turn the rpm right down to the minimum speed the fan would allow. It will go down to 9% and then anything lower would result in stop-start bursts. But anything below 15% is quiet enough for me not to really notice.

The issue I'm faced with is that many programs in windows that I have tried have really annoying limits on things.
AMD radeon software has a zero RPM option that if you want to use it, the temperature it cuts off at is fixed at 50%. This is irritating as the fan speed is loud even at the lowest it can go (around 30%) and on games where the temperature is around 50, it cuts out, then when it powers back on, it sounds like an engine starting and sort of revs for a bit before going back down to the required RPM, then of course soon goes off again - and so on repeatedly. I want to avoid this by having it running all the time. The only other option on this program is to disable the 0 rpm, which then results in the GPU fans being on 30% all the time which is louder than my other PC fans which i spent a lot of money on to make sure they were quiet models.

I tried MSI afterburner, but it is clear that that cannot go below 30% eather. The difference in volume is just too large between 30% and off that I really need a program that allows it to rotate at a much lower RPM.

I also tried a program named Argus Monitor, and I was aware that it was a program you need to pay for but I thought I may as well test the trial version. It looks pretty advanced, but I couldn't get it to work.

Surely there must be a way in windows to control the fans more than I have managed? One of the main reasons I switched to windows was so that it could support more games and have more advanced overclocking programs - but the one and only thing I want to do with these is set a custom fan curve similar to what is in the screenshot attatched. I can't find a program in windows that lets me do this yet.

Any advice?
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Hi,i have the same gpu, did you found any sollutions?
 
I ended up just setting a custom profile for the one and only game I currently play and set the option to be zero RPM below 50 degrees the rest of the time. This actually works out fine as currently the GPU never goes over 50 degrees when not gaming, so it is always off in my case.

I still find it annoying that windows that is supposedly more supporting of tweaking GPU fan speeds is in fact harder than on Ubuntu.
 
Hello everyone.
I'm having the same issue on this exact same card model (RX 6500 XT Mech). Neither Afterburner or Wattman seem to respond to the custom RPM/Temp curve that I apply. It's either zero or full speed (around 4600 RPM) no matter how much I play with the configuration.

I've attempted to edit the VBIOS using MPT + RBE but the latest shows the "not supported" screen when I upload the BIOS file, as it happened to the writer of this post.
I was wondering if getting a VBIOS from TechPowerUp is a viable option to try and edit it, or if there are other ways to lower the speed of the fans, which are actually quite noisy.

Also if OP is reading this, I'd appreciate a screenshot of the custom game config that worked for him, since I tried that aswell but to no avail, and it looks like I'm running out of options, or been missing something this whole time.

Just in case, I'm using:
AORUS B660M MOBO
Core i5-12400
Corsair Vengeance 2x8GB (16GB) 3200MHZ
 
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