Guide: How to set up a fan curve in the BIOS

citay

Pro
SERGEANT
Joined
Oct 12, 2016
Messages
27,974
Setting up a fan curve involves a balance between airflow and noise. But it is not that difficult when you know a good way to do it, and you only have to do it once.

First, a word about the fans. I'll try not to make it too difficult, there is just some precise terminology i have to use, but in the end it's not that hard to understand, i promise.

If you want to skip this part and go right to the information about setting up fan curves, scroll down to FAN CURVES.


There are two different types of fans, which you can tell apart by their plug. Let's look at this picture:

noctua_pin_configuration_12v_fans.png


A three-pin plug means the fan is DC (= direct current) voltage-controlled. A 4-pin plug means it's PWM (pulse width modulation) controlled.
With a DC-controlled fan, the fan speed is regulated by the board powering it with lower or higher voltages (say, between 3V and 12V) instead of steady 12V.
With a PWM-controlled fan, the board powers it with a steady 12V, and the fan speed is controlled through the fourth pin via a PWM signal.

Note: The "RPM Speed Signal" pin (rotations per minute) in the picture is telling the motherboard at which speed the fan is spinning, it is not controlling the fan.

So for each fan, you have to select the right fan control method: DC for a 3-pin fan or PWM for a 4-pin fan.


Beware: Some cheaper motherboard models may only allow DC control for most of the fan headers, or only allow PWM control for all of the fan headers, regardless of the fan headers all being 4-pin headers or not. This may save them a little money on components around the fan headers, but it can be very inconvenient if you have the wrong type of fans and you can't control them properly as a result. So pay extra attention to that.

It's easy to notice in the BIOS: When you can't control some 4-pin fan headers with a PWM signal and instead only have DC (voltage) control available. Or when you don't have the ability to set a DC voltage for the fans, and you can only set a PWM percentage (then, when using 3-pin fans, they would always run at full speed here, because they would get constant 12V).

But you can also find out about this in the manual, before purchasing such a board.
Two examples of such boards. First, a board where they saved money on two of the headers:

PWM DC.png


Both CPUFAN headers can control the fan speed via PWM signal or DC voltage (depending on the fan and which control method you select in the BIOS).
But the SYSFAN headers at the bottom can only control the fan speed via DC voltage, despite having a 4-pin fan header.
"NC" means Not Connected, so they didn't implement PWM control on those headers for cost-saving. On more expensive board models, all the fan headers should be able to control fans with both methods. But in this example, you'd want your 4-pin PWM fans on the two CPUFAN headers, if possible.

Second example, from the MSI PRO Z790-S WIFI, the worst Intel Z-series board on the market:

Screenshot 2024-12-31 at 12-55-46 PROZ790-SWIFI.pdf.png


This board simply doesn't offer DC Voltage control for any fan headers, only PWM control. So if you use 3-pin case fans (or CPU fans) on this board, since they don't have the fourth wire for the PWM speed control signal, they're stuck at a full 12V. There is no way to control 3-pin fans on this board at all, the fan curves will be useless for them. You need some kind of solution like a seperate fan controller, which some cases may offer.

These shortcomings are mostly on lower-end board models. Once you go for a slightly nicer board model (from lower mid-range onwards), they should be able to have all fan headers controlled in both ways, DC voltage or PWM.


By the way: Every PWM fan can also be DC-controlled, it's just a slightly worse method of controlling it. One advantage of PWM control is that the fan will always turn on, even at a very low setting (unless it's purposely configured to stay off below 5% or 20% PWM signal for example). But when you go too low with the voltage on DC control, the fan might not turn on reliably, as the voltage is not enough to overcome the fan motor's resistance, so you'd have to add a bit of extra margin on the voltage.

The general target for the fan curves is:
- Nice low RPM (fan speed) at low temperatures
- Let the RPM ramp up gently with rising temperatures
- Only ramping up the RPM faster when the temperature approaches a quite high level.


Now, before setting the fan curves: Since we're doing this in the BIOS, this is a good time to first update the BIOS to the newest version. Because if you decide to update the BIOS later, it will reset all settings (on a lot of boards, that includes the fan curves), and you have to enter everything again. But since we'll start from scratch now anyway, updating the BIOS beforehand is a good idea.

A quick how-to on BIOS updates:
1) Get the latest BIOS. It's always the topmost one when you click on "BIOS" on the MSI support page for the mainboard.
2) Extract the file and you will get a text file and the BIOS file. Put the BIOS file into the root folder of a USB stick/drive.
3) Enter the BIOS by pressing DEL during boot, go to "M-FLASH" in the BIOS.
4) Once M-Flash (the updater) is loaded, it will show a list of your drives. Select the USB stick and select the previously extracted BIOS file on there.
5) It will ask for confirmation and then update the BIOS. It's fully automatic from there, takes about two minutes.


Now, before we come to the topic of how to set good fan curves, let's first look at a proper way to create an airflow through the case. Normally there should be at least one intake fan (usually at the front) and at least one exhaust fan (usually at the rear, in line with the CPU cooler). This will ensure a defined airflow through the case which can extract the heat from the components.

All the fans should work in unison within that airflow, to get one stream of cold air coming in from the front, picking up some heat (mostly from the CPU and GPU), and the warmed-up air being exhausted out of the rear. So in modern cases, the airflow usually looks something like this:

airflow.png
master.png



Perhaps minus the fans on top of the case. But there often will be at least one fan (if not two or three) in the front, and one exhaust fan in the rear behind the CPU cooler. Each fan will have one or two arrow markings on one of the sides, showing the rotational direction as well as the airflow direction, and all the "airflow arrows" should be pointing towards the rear of the case. When the fans come pre-installed in the case, they will already be installed like that.

If the front intake fans outnumber the rear exhaust fan by 2:1 or 3:1, then the rear fan ideally runs on slightly higher RPM than the front fans, to create a more even airflow.

About over- vs. underpressure, or positive vs. negative pressure:

Usually there should be a slight overpressure / positive pressure, meaning, slightly more air intake than air exhaust. Because the problem with underpressure or negative pressure is, it can't be controlled where the air is being pulled from. So when there are more exhaust fans than intake fans (or there's more powerful exhaust fans, or they spin faster), they will usually pull air from the shortest path. Meaning, all the additional air does not come from the front, it will be pulled from every vent and case opening that is nearby.

But since we want a defined airflow, usually front-to-back/top, the best thing is to have a slight bias towards the intake fans. And most cases will naturally do that, as they tend to have more intake than exhaust fans. Then the exhaust fan should be on a slightly higher fan curve to spin a bit faster, but it's ok to still have some air blowing through the case vents below the rear exhaust fan, having the the front fans move slightly more air into the system than the exhaust fan alone can move out. Then the warm air that collects below the graphics card, or generally in the lower half of the system, can also slowly be replaced by fresh air as it exits through the rear case vents. You don't have to feel real wind coming through the vents, but it's good if the air is not totally stagnant, and you definitely don't want the air to be pulled in from there.



FAN CURVES

Now it's time to set the fan curves. Enter the BIOS (press DEL after power-on/reboot) and open the "Hardware Monitor" which offers the fan control.
For each fan, you can set four points of a curve, MSI calls this the "Smart Fan Mode".

This is how it might look:

MSI_SnapShot_21 Fan1.png


Note that each of the four points of a fan curve is restricted by the points next to it, it can't go lower than the previous point or higher than the following point.
So you may have to move a neighboring point if you hit a restriction on the point you want to adjust.


The goal for the first point of the curve is to find a setting with a bit of airflow, but where the fan is very quiet. This will be the setting when the CPU is doing nothing (idle).
You don't need a lot of airflow when the CPU temperature is low anyway. My fans spin only at around 400 RPM there, as you can see, just enough to keep some air moving through the case. Note that i have a high-end air cooler with two fans on there, as well as three 140mm case fans in a large case. So in a small case with fewer fans, you will need a bit higher RPM to keep it this cool inside. But there is no need to have the fans spin for example at 1000 RPM in idle.

For testing, it's good to open the case and put your hand behind the fan or behind the cooler (where the air gets blown through) to feel how much airflow the fan generates with different values. As long as you don't touch the motherboard or other components, there's no danger. And you can immediately feel the results of your adjustments.

For testing the airflow, turn off "Smart Fan Mode" for a while, so you can influence the fan speed directly. You can also turn off the other fans, so you can find the sweet spot for low temperatures with the particular fan you're checking. Remember, you only need a slight airflow for this starting point of the fan curve, the goal is not to have unnecessary noise when the temperature is low.

For this goal (a bit of airflow, but being very quiet), the resulting PWM % value (or DC voltage on 3-pin fans) is your starting point at 30°C or 40°C for this fan's curve. The temperature you select depends on where you want the fan to first start ramping up. It makes no sense to define a temperature below the ambient temperature, or below the minimum CPU temperature, you'd just be wasting the whole adjustment point. So anything below 30°C only makes sense with powerful cooling methods that can actually hold the CPU below 30°C.

Next, don't go to the second point, but the third one. Find a good level where the airflow is strong but the noise is still bearable, and use this as your "full CPU load" setting for higher temperature values like 65°C or 75°C. To fine-tune this point of the curve, you might have to go back and forth from the BIOS to Windows, where you monitor the fan speed with certain CPU load and fine-tune the setting afterwards. But it doesn't take that long to do, and you only have to do it once.

As for the second point of the curve, the inbetween point: Set it slightly below a straight line between the first and third point, to not make the fans ramp up too fast at medium temperatures.

For the final point, set it for 85°C or 90°C CPU temperature and 100% PWM value (or full 12V DC with a 3-pin fan). This is the "worst case" point for safety.
Now you should have all four points of the curve set to a sensible value, and most of the time, the fan should stay between the first and the third point. The highest last point is just a safety measure.

I would always create such an "ascending dominant" curve:

curve.png


A perfectly straight line makes no sense, you'd be wasting the two middle adjustment points.
A descending dominant curve makes no sense, as it will make more noise than necessary.

Here are examples. You might of course have to use different values, but just to see how it should rougly look like. The curve needs to be done for your particular fans.

This is for a PWM fan (4-pin), which is controlled by a PWM % signal:

BIOS_Fan1.png


I would always prefer "Temperature source" CPU for the CPU fan(s), and probably most other fans too.
Usually, the CPU temperature is the most important one, and will influence the other temperatures.
By the way, a "Step down time" of 1.0s makes the fans spin down less audibly.

However, it's also feasible use "Temperature source" System for case fans. Here's an example for a DC (voltage-controlled) 3-pin fan.
Note: The following picture is not how it should be set when using the CPU temperature as the source (which is the usual temperature source),
it's an example of a fan curve when using the System temperature as the source, which could be done for case fans.
When using CPU temperature as the source, the fan curve should not be this steep, it should be more like the pictures above.

MSI_SnapShot_24 Fan4.png


Of the six total fans in my PC (two on the CPU cooler, four in the case), this lower front intake fan is the only one for which i use the "System" Temperature Source. I want it to react to the system temperature with a steeper curve, since the system temperature will obviously increase much more slowly than the CPU temperature. The graphics card can be a major contributor to heating up the whole system, and since i can't use a graphics card sensor as the temperature source, this is sort of a roundabout way to handle that. Of course, you can also have the CPU as the temperature source for all the fans, then you should use a shallower curve like in the pictures before this one.

Here's a 4-pin system fan (in my case, a Noctua NF-A14 PWM) with the CPU as the temperature source:

23 Fan3 BIOS 1.D0 MSI_SnapShot_23.png


In my system, the CPU temperature actually stays very low under load, since i have a mid-range CPU and a high-end CPU cooler. Therefore, even for the system/case fans, i can set this steep of a fan curve and not worry about getting jet engine noises under load, it will still stay pretty quiet. Depending on the individual configuration, it might be better to have the system fans on less steep of a curve compared to the CPU fan(s), just so the noise is less annoying under load. It all depends on your setup, what kind of fans you have, and noise/temperature preference.

When you have a graphics card (GPU) with a pretty high power draw, and/or there will be a lot of gaming done on the PC, then it's also a good idea to observe the various temperatures during a stint of gaming, running HWinfo Sensors in the background, set up as mentioned in step 1) of this guide with the sensors expanded. Because apart from the CPU temperatures, the GPU and other temperatures (SSD, RAM, System...) are of course also important. A GPU can take quite high temperatures, and for some cards it's not unusual or concerning to see high 80°C there under load, that can be pretty normal. But it shouldn't cause excessive temperatures for other parts. So while thinking about achieving a good balance of temperatures vs. noise, it's good to keep the entire system in mind, for example in a gaming scenario, and not only test full CPU load.


Each fan model has a different RPM range and therefore needs different values or voltages to reach a certain airflow. Also, each different PWM-controlled fan model can interpret the PWM signal differently. This is because some mainboards don't allow a PWM signal lower than 20% for example, to never have the fan turn off. So to circumvent that, a fan maker might decide to let the fan interpret a 20% PWM signal from the mainboard as "still turned off", and turn on at 21% PWM. Another fan might interpret 0% PWM as the turn off signal and 1% as the lowest possible RPM, or may never turn off and just map the entire PWM signal range to the lowest and highest RPM. And all variations in between.

Here's an example of an Arctic fan which has implemented a semi-passive mode, it stays off with any PWM signal below 5%:

P12-PWM-PST-Argb-0dB-Mode-EN.jpg


These Arctic P12/P14 PWM PST are very good fans by the way, almost unbeatable in price/performance.

Another example of a fan with a semi-passive mode is this Noiseblocker one, which has the following PWM-signal-to-fan-speed mapping (depending on the variant):

Screenshot 2023-06-27 at 21-58-11 TData_eloopX120_de_en.cdr - TData_eloopX120_de_en.pdf.png


So for each fan model, you will need different PWM values (and for 3-pin ones, different voltages), but just go by airflow and noise.
And the concept of the fan curve is always the same.

Once you're done, it's a good idea to write down your settings or make a screenshot/picture of them (in the BIOS, F12 saves a screenshot to a FAT32-formatted USB drive).
Because whenever the BIOS settings are reset (due to BIOS update, CMOS Clear or empty battery), you'll need your notes or pictures to know what fan curves you had before.
Although in BIOS updates for newer boards, the fan curves are actually kept between updates nowadays, which is good.

My other guides:
RAM explained: Why two modules are better than four / single- vs. dual-rank / stability testing

Guide: How to set good power limits in the BIOS and reduce the CPU power draw
Guide: How to find a good PSU

Someone asked me if they can thank me for my work by sending me something via Paypal: Yes, that's possible, just write me a message and i'll tell you my Paypal 😉
 
Last edited:
If you want, create a new thread for it, this is getting a bit too off-topic for this one. I have to say, i'm not an expert with AM4 CPU settings optimization, my specialty is more on the Intel side. But maybe other people can help you get on top of this better.
but on the fan side of the thread - intake fans wether the rpms are not working correctly cause the fan kit x3 i heard come with the case and it spins near 1400 rpm under during a cinebench tests, i put in the same values curve in bios its set to DC as u wanted, its not working as its 900+ normal cinebench tests like 125 rpm higher than the PWM bios curve, currently have the system cool enough in first 30 minute tests, to get the values dialed in and working somewhat better should i research the rpm further for the x3 120mm kit, cause on website its saying 1200 but its way over that, and the 140mm intake kit x2 would be something i added its a 1400rpm setup, that spins identically everytime..
 
If you want, create a new thread for it, this is getting a bit too off-topic for this one. I have to say, i'm not an expert with AM4 CPU settings optimization, my specialty is more on the Intel side. But maybe other people can help you get on top of this better.
Sounds dissapated with on bios cpu fan and system for pc noise idle level it must have been my paste.
 
As per usual, your comments are a bit difficult to understand. Do you use a translation from a different language?
 
After some time testing the noise, I think I've found the sweetspot for my top fans
20241231_193435.jpg


I can use smart fan mode but with volt for DC fans too right?
I was thinking of trying set something for the rear fan, but wonder if I should (default settings):
2025-01-08 073245.png

Maybe I should set it to be around 600 RPM on low stress and 1200 to its max RPM on very streessed times?
 
I can use smart fan mode but with volt for DC fans too right?

Sure. Smart Fan works with PWM percentages as well as with DC voltages.

Maybe I should set it to be around 600 RPM on low stress and 1200 to its max RPM on very streessed times?

Yes. No need to have it on 1260 RPM when the CPU temperature is that low. With low heat, you don't need much airflow at all.
 
Right now, for the case fans in my own system, i have two 140mm intake fans in the front, one 140mm exhaust fan in the rear. The upper front fan and the rear fan (both Noctua NF-A14 PWM), i have on a shallower fan curve with temperature source "CPU". The lower front fan, that's the only 3-pin fan (a Corsair Air Series AF140 Quiet Edition), which i have on a steeper fan curve with temperature source "System". You can see the curves in the first post.

But you can also use temperature source "CPU" for all system fans. Everyone has a different setup, different case, different fans, different cooler, different CPU...
 
yea thanks, id try both methods, just had to put up with problems in old paste back last week having it set to that cpu for all system fans, however the dc wont matter much they are bugged inside the bios due to it not showing up as voltage-only rpm side, everyone likes to post the thread of different configurations so its pretty obvious i have more questions to take care of the Intake fans on the case that outway the exhaust, maybe i need to just work and forget the changes when i start gaming side, and finished only the temps with no programs on idle speeds.
 
Sure. Smart Fan works with PWM percentages as well as with DC voltages.



Yes. No need to have it on 1260 RPM when the CPU temperature is that low. With low heat, you don't need much airflow at all.
Alright, thx.

I've set it up with volts,
On any 3 volt setting I've tried however, the fan won't run at all so I assume it its bottom limit,
The strange part though is that it won't run on 4 volts either unless I set it first to 5 volt and go down from there to 4,
Dk why but it works and 4 seem to be the very bottom I can use to make it spin (which goes to around 750+- RPMs),

Also at times the fan won't work at all in the bios screen if it was set to 3 volts till I reset the PC,
Might be some bios bug... Idk 🤷‍♀️
 
On any 3 volt setting I've tried however, the fan won't run at all so I assume it its bottom limit,
The strange part though is that it won't run on 4 volts either unless I set it first to 5 volt and go down from there to 4,
Dk why but it works and 4 seem to be the very bottom I can use to make it spin (which goes to around 750+- RPMs),

This is normal for voltage-controlled fans, and is the reason why PWM-controlled fans are superior.

You see, a voltage-controlled fan has a minimum turn-on voltage, which is required to overcome the fan motor's resistance for the spin-up. When the fan motor is standing still, there is an initial friction that makes it harder for it to spin. Once it's spinning, you could theoretically go lower with the voltage again, since the resistance doesn't have to be overcome again, but then on the next cold boot it won't start spinning until the voltage exceeds the minimum voltage (requiring higher CPU temperatures to trigger that). So that's the downside of 3-pin fans, they sometimes can't go to such low RPM as PWM-controlled fans.

So to overcome the motor's resistance, you first need to apply more voltage for them to start spinning. On a lot of MSI boards, on a cold boot, you have a "fan boost" where all the fans start from a higher voltage and then gradually the fan control takes over. If you have this, setting a low voltage would be ok, since the fan will get this boost for the first start. If you don't have this, you cannot use such low voltages.

You will see that it may start spinning when you nudge it with your finger. Normally, for spinning from a dead stop on its own, it can only do it with 5V (for your fan). But when you spin it by hand, giving it a push to overcome the motor's resistance, and then it can run with even a slightly lower voltage below its turn-on voltage. But it can eventually stop again. So if you don't have that initial "fan boost" from the board, you have no choice but to use 5V as the lowest point. That means this fan is not designed for very low RPM. Only really good 3-pin fans can start with less than 4V, most of the time you have to use above 4V.

With PWM control, the fan always gets a steady 12V supplied to it, and it has some internal logic to interpret the PWM percentage. The fan manufacturer knows the exact usable RPM range of their fan model, and can make the fan reliably spin at low RPM, if you get an appropriate fan model. That's why 4-pin PWM fans are superior. But there are some nice 3-pin fans as well, i mean, i'm still using one 3-pin fan in my system too, i wouldn't replace it just because 4-pin fans have this superior way of controlling them.
 
Setting up a fan curve involves a balance between airflow and noise. But it is not that difficult when you know a good way to do it, and you only have to do it once.

First, a word about the fans. I'll try not to make it too difficult, there is just some precise terminology i have to use, but in the end it's not that hard to understand, i promise.

If you want to skip this part and go right to the information about setting up fan curves, scroll down to FAN CURVES.
Hi what would my DC+PWM+cpu aio cooler fan curve step up and step down times be / avoiding the annoying issues in bios ramp up during idle is my goal. setting them at .7pwm/1.0 max dc and cpu currently, but is it faster to alter them below .7/1.0 or have them all the same exact step down time
 
This is normal for voltage-controlled fans, and is the reason why PWM-controlled fans are superior.

You see, a voltage-controlled fan has a minimum turn-on voltage, which is required to overcome the fan motor's resistance for the spin-up. When the fan motor is standing still, there is an initial friction that makes it harder for it to spin. Once it's spinning, you could theoretically go lower with the voltage again, since the resistance doesn't have to be overcome again, but then on the next cold boot it won't start spinning until the voltage exceeds the minimum voltage (requiring higher CPU temperatures to trigger that). So that's the downside of 3-pin fans, they sometimes can't go to such low RPM as PWM-controlled fans.

So to overcome the motor's resistance, you first need to apply more voltage for them to start spinning. On a lot of MSI boards, on a cold boot, you have a "fan boost" where all the fans start from a higher voltage and then gradually the fan control takes over. If you have this, setting a low voltage would be ok, since the fan will get this boost for the first start. If you don't have this, you cannot use such low voltages.

You will see that it may start spinning when you nudge it with your finger. Normally, for spinning from a dead stop on its own, it can only do it with 5V (for your fan). But when you spin it by hand, giving it a push to overcome the motor's resistance, and then it can run with even a slightly lower voltage below its turn-on voltage. But it can eventually stop again. So if you don't have that initial "fan boost" from the board, you have no choice but to use 5V as the lowest point. That means this fan is not designed for very low RPM. Only really good 3-pin fans can start with less than 4V, most of the time you have to use above 4V.

With PWM control, the fan always gets a steady 12V supplied to it, and it has some internal logic to interpret the PWM percentage. The fan manufacturer knows the exact usable RPM range of their fan model, and can make the fan reliably spin at low RPM, if you get an appropriate fan model. That's why 4-pin PWM fans are superior. But there are some nice 3-pin fans as well, i mean, i'm still using one 3-pin fan in my system too, i wouldn't replace it just because 4-pin fans have this superior way of controlling them.
i think the cap of the bios DC by default is 12volts but hardware monitor advanced controls on it would be rpm making not volt making, software barely statistic due to this problem with beta motherboard b450 tomahawk is there no other way to add the separate control of Volts to make sure your on par to 3-pin manufacture specs for spinning timing and smoothing out rpm differences towards statistic cpu cooler fan dial in point 1-4 ramp ups and odd noise.
 
I have mine set to 0.7s step-down time right now. You can also increase step-up time to make them spin up more smoothly for higher temperatures.

Your last reply, i didn't quite understand again. It's almost like you translated it word for word from a different language...?

Anyway, i have answered your questions for five pages now, and while i'm always willing to answer people's questions, i think we should call it a day and not make this thread any harder to read for others later. I hope i could clear up most of your questions and you have a good understanding now how fan control works. 👍
 
This is normal for voltage-controlled fans, and is the reason why PWM-controlled fans are superior.

You see, a voltage-controlled fan has a minimum turn-on voltage, which is required to overcome the fan motor's resistance for the spin-up. When the fan motor is standing still, there is an initial friction that makes it harder for it to spin. Once it's spinning, you could theoretically go lower with the voltage again, since the resistance doesn't have to be overcome again, but then on the next cold boot it won't start spinning until the voltage exceeds the minimum voltage (requiring higher CPU temperatures to trigger that). So that's the downside of 3-pin fans, they sometimes can't go to such low RPM as PWM-controlled fans.

So to overcome the motor's resistance, you first need to apply more voltage for them to start spinning. On a lot of MSI boards, on a cold boot, you have a "fan boost" where all the fans start from a higher voltage and then gradually the fan control takes over. If you have this, setting a low voltage would be ok, since the fan will get this boost for the first start. If you don't have this, you cannot use such low voltages.

You will see that it may start spinning when you nudge it with your finger. Normally, for spinning from a dead stop on its own, it can only do it with 5V (for your fan). But when you spin it by hand, giving it a push to overcome the motor's resistance, and then it can run with even a slightly lower voltage below its turn-on voltage. But it can eventually stop again. So if you don't have that initial "fan boost" from the board, you have no choice but to use 5V as the lowest point. That means this fan is not designed for very low RPM. Only really good 3-pin fans can start with less than 4V, most of the time you have to use above 4V.

With PWM control, the fan always gets a steady 12V supplied to it, and it has some internal logic to interpret the PWM percentage. The fan manufacturer knows the exact usable RPM range of their fan model, and can make the fan reliably spin at low RPM, if you get an appropriate fan model. That's why 4-pin PWM fans are superior. But there are some nice 3-pin fans as well, i mean, i'm still using one 3-pin fan in my system too, i wouldn't replace it just because 4-pin fans have this superior way of controlling them.
I see, that's actually really interesting,

I've managed to make it work with 4.20v as I've mentioned before,
I did had to go first for 5v for the 4v to work, but afterwards it kept working at 4v just fine after restarts,

Maybe it really got something to do with fan boost being On, where I can find it in the bios to check though?
If it was Off I might as well turn it On and see if it can help the fan with 3v settings.
 
The fan boost is nothing you can influence with a setting, sadly. Either it boosts the fan on a cold boot or not. My board does it, i hear a loud woosh when i turn on the system, then the noise slowly goes away until i'm in Windows. In idle, i can't really tell if the system is running, all fans are at very low RPM, and my PSU is fanless.
 
Oh I see,
Well as long as it seem to always work on boot and on 4v I think I'm good, would probably go for PWM fan the next time the fan will need to be replaced (which hopefully will take a long while... it also seem like the fan I've replaced it with fine too tbf and the noise that made me replace it in the first place was from a different fan),

And wow there are fanless PSUs?
Guess I shouldn't be surprised but I don't think I've bumped to one of these before (unless I've forgot or never noticed that).


After helping me with the CPU, RAM, and now fans I think I'm good ahah, I may have a general question in something that relate to my SSD, but that not relates to this thread,
But either just wanted to say a big thank for helping me out and take the extra mile explaining things (even if some of them were already covered your guides xD) which really helped and gave me more new info for how stuff works or about things we can do which I wasn't aware of,

The DIY experience was also nice in general lol
 
You're welcome, glad to help.

And wow there are fanless PSUs?
Guess I shouldn't be surprised but I don't think I've bumped to one of these before (unless I've forgot or never noticed that).

Yes, but not that many. I bought the Seasonic Prime Fanless TX-700 four years ago for a good price (nowadays it's more expensive):

2245364-l0.jpg


But they aren't very popular, due to their high price. They need to overspec a lot of the parts on those and use high-quality components everywhere, so it all can cope without active cooling. The capacitors are top-notch, the various components are oversized, there are heatsinks in unusual places like the main transformer, and so on.

2245364-l8.jpg


Some parts they used in this PSU are normally used in quality 1000W PSUs, and without a fan, it's rated for 700W.

Today, especially where cases with "PSU tunnels" have become almost the norm (where the PSU is more or less covered on top, which would block the rising warm air), it makes more sense to get a semi-passive PSU, which stays passive until a certain mid-load and then the fan comes in. So today i would get one of those.
 
You're welcome, glad to help.



Yes, but not that many. I bought the Seasonic Prime Fanless TX-700 four years ago for a good price (nowadays it's more expensive):

2245364-l0.jpg


But they aren't very popular, due to their high price. They need to overspec a lot of the parts on those and use high-quality components everywhere, so it all can cope without active cooling. The capacitors are top-notch, the various components are oversized, there are heatsinks in unusual places like the main transformer, and so on.

2245364-l8.jpg


Some parts they used in this PSU are normally used in quality 1000W PSUs, and without a fan, it's rated for 700W.

Today, especially where cases with "PSU tunnels" have become almost the norm (where the PSU is more or less covered on top, which would block the rising warm air), it makes more sense to get a semi-passive PSU, which stays passive until a certain mid-load and then the fan comes in. So today i would get one of those.
you would get one of which type of semi passive psu? Just say seasonic 700watt
 
Right now my favorite would probably be the FSP Hydro Ti Pro ATX 3.0, these models did very well in reviews like here. The wattage starts from 850W though, which is quite overkill for my needs. Also, since i have a high-end PSU to begin with, and it's not old yet, it makes little sense to buy a new PSU now.
 
Right now my favorite would probably be the FSP Hydro Ti Pro ATX 3.0, these models did very well in reviews like here. The wattage starts from 850W though, which is quite overkill for my needs. Also, since i have a high-end PSU to begin with, and it's not old yet, it makes little sense to buy a new PSU now.
HTI-850M? how do u buy them though? i see its way advanced on system noise, and power saving, for my system its 100-200 watts more than my current rig.
 
Back
Top