H67MA-E45(B3) machine no longer booting after running E7678v32.exe from USB key

colinb1014e202c9

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Hi
I think the bios was on 1.2 and machine had not been upgraded, for any drivers, since machine was built. Downloaded the latest bios, put it on usb, ran it and machine rebooted. There it has remained. It cycles "Military Class II" graphic, screen goes black, then the bottom right corner of screen then shows 9c b4 92 A3 and it repeats. CTRL/Home do nothing. F11 will bring up a menu. None of them do anything, it just goes back into the same loop.
I do not have the Bios file, only the EXE. I have seen a few utilities referred to and the bios file referred to but all I can find in support downloads is the 3.2 exe... I cannot find the 1.2 exe (to see if that would get it started). Also many of the links in other forum articles seem to lead now back to the main forum site.

Can anyone please assist. I am technically capable, though not at BIOS programming capability. In 1000's of machines this is the first bios flash failure - cannot say I am enjoying the experience as its not my machine! eek. Otherwise the machine seems to be 100% ok. Just wish I had not started!

Ideally I will be able to roll back /flash to 1.2 or thereabouts at which point I will leave it as it is I think. Fingers crossed
Hope someone can assist.
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Colin
 

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Yeah, sometimes BIOS flashes JUST go wrong, despite having no reason to do so, and that's exactly why you never should update BIOS without solid reasons. Here is similar thread, maybe it will help you.
 

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Yeah, sometimes BIOS flashes JUST go wrong, despite having no reason to do so, and that's exactly why you never should update BIOS without solid reasons. Here is similar thread, maybe it will help you.
Thanks. I will give it a try. First time I have had an issue in 30 years. Always a first time! :-)
 

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This did not work unfortunately. Situation is the same. Ideally it would be good if someone had an earlier extracted bios version and/or msi utility that could be used from the usb socket to reflash. The machine is still recognising the usb socket, and whether something is present or not, and I can still get the menu in the attached image.
I remain unsure at what point it has failed in the flash.
Does anyone have a pre 3.2, ideally 1.2 extracted bios file, and any msi util that may assist please?

Thank you
 

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I kind of don't understand what you want to do here. You want a program that will automatically flash BIOS back to ver. 1.2, but in the first post you said that none of the options in F11 menu work, it just bootloops. In case that's what you are thinking - there is no way to do something like that, as it will still bootloop. If it had dual BIOS you could intentionally short the first chip so that it would use the second one, but as it's entry level board I doubt that that feature is implemented here. Also changelog of BIOS ver. > 1.F states that it's impossible to go back, but I've seen here a thread with the solution to that problem; also worth noting is the fact that these mobos tend to work way worse with 2XXX series CPUs with 3XXX series capable BIOS. Please check if you can go into BIOS (spam DEL or F2) and if you can check if 3XXX CPU will work better.
 

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I was rather hoping that with a bios file, equivalent to the original bios 1.2, in the usb drive at the point in the menu where I could select the UEFI Sandisk Cruzer - it might uptake the bios file. Jakub-p2, could you link the thread you have mentioned above please? I tried the f2/del spamming and it still loops.
I just do not understand why it can bring up the menu, display this graphic "military class II", and yet be unable to respond to an appropriate program/rom in the usb drive. BIOS crashes, this is the first ever, are not my expertise... never mind recovering from them.

Perhaps I need to buy an SPI programmer and then use the original bios on the chip, v1.2. Where can I get the bios files from outside of an exe?

thank you for your continued patience and assistance
 

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https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/z68a-gd65-b3-problem-back-bios-25-8-to-22-8.353707/ ; No, it won't magically work even if you have BIOS on pendrive. This tactic based on repetitive trial and error might work on humans, but machines tend to be... more static in their replies :). Post codes, if I recall correctly, are displayed for the last thing that initialized / hanged on initializing. Just sanity check: are all these tries on minimal config(1 stick of ram, no HDD,...)? As for the BIOS, if MSI doesn't have it then go on 3rd party websites.
 

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thanks. Not knowing otherwise, I thought that because there was not a suitable file on the usb stick, it could not break out of the loop whereas if there was an appropriate file - it might! :-) No drives, 2sticks of paired ram. Is there no way to extract the bios file from the exe's that MSI have on their website? If I have a brick now, and I have to buy a bios chip tool I will need this base bios file.

In the link you provided it refers to >>MSI HQ Forum USB flasher<< and using a bios file. Svet mentions using these in a few of his posts. Like the example where can I get a version of this flasher and the bios file - surely I could get this mobo reflashed?
IF not and I need to get a chip tool, what 3rd party sites are reputable for bios files? Amazed that MSI only provide exes.

thanks again for assisting
 
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Im not sure where you can get the tool, https://www.msi-bios.com/msi-bios-for-H67MA-E45-with-MS-7678-and-version-1.html, one last thing that comes to my mind before swapping/flashing chips is Bootblock. I'm not sure which pins to short to make it appear or if it even is accessible through that method in SO-8 package as I usually deal with a lot older hardware. Exes are only for convenience, if you use unarchiver like 7-zip everything is still there.
 

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Im not sure where you can get the tool, https://www.msi-bios.com/msi-bios-for-H67MA-E45-with-MS-7678-and-version-1.html, one last thing that comes to my mind before swapping/flashing chips is Bootblock. I'm not sure which pins to short to make it appear or if it even is accessible through that method in SO-8 package as I usually deal with a lot older hardware. Exes are only for convenience, if you use unarchiver like 7-zip everything is still there.
No idea how to use Boot block. I will see if Svet or others a. know where this util can be found and b. where I can get the "raw" bios files from that is reputable. :-)
Seems so complicated for what seems to be a straight forward thing to fix.
 

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I have 7-zip. I cannot use it to get to the files in the .exe, if that is what you mean. I get a message stating this is not an archive
 

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hi. Thank you for persisting with me, and showing this successful extraction. :-) When I try to get the v1.2 bios from the MSI site I get "not found" and when I use the 7zip on the v3.2 exe I get the attached error. Given you had shown me the art of the possible, I tried to download v1.3 of the driver and I was able to extract it successfully (also attached). Perhaps they have changed the storage method for the exe - perhaps you could try the 3.2 version as a matter of interest. Also if you can signpost me to that 1.2 bios file you have, an alternate url,that would be great. If not I at least have1.3

Excellent, thank you again. Now I have a bios file (1.3), I have a chip programmer kit on the way via Amazon... now all I need is some software to do the job. Any ideas where I can get that safely are very welcome.
 

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For my programmer seller recommended "Flashrom", works nicely. I also uploaded my BIOS version to 3rd party hosting: LINK
 
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