Help me pick a video card

flyingv2815b702e7

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In the future I want to get ryzen without IGP so I will need a graphics card.
I had a GTX950 SSC (768:48:32) 1400 MHz but sold it.
I would like the new card to be at least as powerful.
My budget is max 200. MSI cards preferred.
Currently I am using Vega 8 IGP (512:32:8) 1200 MHz.

I run only a couple of older games that were upgraded and rereleased in 2016 2017.
Vega 8 has no problem running these at 170 fps or so with vsync off.

AMD
RX550 (512:32:16) 1183 MHz 128 bit $80 - Twice the ROPs as Vega 8, but feels like a side-grade at best.
RX570 (2048:128:32) 1244 MHz 256 bit $139 - Now were talking. Clock speed a little low, but still a massive upgrade over Vega 8.
RX5500XT (1408:88:32) 1845 MHz 128 bit $199 - Worth it for the higher clock speed?
For the price it looks like RX570 is the winner.

nVidia
GTX 1050 Ti (768:48:32) 1392 MHz 128 bit $129 - Like my old GTX 950 all over again.
GTX 1650 (896:56:32) 1665 MHz 128 bit $150 - GTX 950 on steroids?
Meh.

I would appreciate any relevant comments, thanks.
RTX cards are out of my price range, not interested in them.
 

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From all the options the RX5500XT is by far the best solution and would equal GTX 1660 Super/RX590 performance. Hence I would get it.
 

flyingv2815b702e7

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Thank you. I like MSI Mech OC version of that.
(Sorry if I posted that in the wrong forum, didnt see this one.)
 

flyingv2815b702e7

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Question as well know B450 doesnt support PCIe gen4.
Does that mean graphics cards and the nvme card slot drop to gen3 even with Ryzen 3000 series chip
even though those things connect direct to the cpu and do not go through the chipset?
 

flyingv2815b702e7

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ok, thanks. I made the right choice then.
i wound up getting a used RX570 for quite a bit less than a 5500.
it is 16x whereas the 5500 would have been 8x.
i stress tested on my secondary machine which is only 4x
and see frame rates in the hundreds with vsync off (older games)
so 8x wouldnt been a big deal.
 

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You kind of got that all wrong the 5500 would have run at PCIE 3x16 and no Video card made yet can use more than what PCIE 3.0 can supply for gaming. Even PCIE 3x8 is more than fast enough for video cards.
 

flyingv2815b702e7

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You kind of got that all wrong the 5500 would have run at PCIE 3x16 and no Video card made yet can use more than what PCIE 3.0 can supply for gaming. Even PCIE 3x8 is more than fast enough for video cards.
No, it only has x8 lanes, I checked.
Same for 5600. It a base level gpu thing.
You have to shell out for 5700 or better if you want 16x.

I am aware of PCIe bus limitations with respect to gaming, that wasn't the point.
and actually I just ran a bunch of different combinations to benchmark them all
and there was evidence of athlon 3000g cpu bottlenecking the rx570 due to 3000g
only offering gen3 at x4 and not being a very powerful cpu.
if I had a 500 series board and a 3000 or better cpu then gen 4 x8 would have been fine.
but I dont so the other card was a better choice. if im going to upgrade the cpu
I sure as heck dont want it only running gen 3 x8, even if it is plenty. why does
that not make sense?

is the 5500 slightly faster than a rx570 sure it is, by about 25 percent.
but it also costs twice as much.
 

Alan J T

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Not sure where you got your info but all 5000 series cards are PCIE Gen 4 x16 On your board it would run at PCIE Gen 3 x 16
 
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