HELP!! X99A Godlike Carbon? Ram timings. Corsair Dominator Platinum

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Hey guys so I am pretty new to over clocking and was wondering if its me, if its my rig, my ram or something different. so I have a x99a godlike carbon v1.1 and an intel 6850k direct from intel thru Intel Retail Edge (per my novice trials the silicone seems to be top 8% [very rudimentary test but incase its helpful]) the Ram is CMT32GX4M4K3600C16 that I can only get to 2400 from 2133 XMP wont work tried some older vengeance 2x8 3600. my previous ram was g.skill tridentz 3200 4x8 that ram XMP and strangely enough all 8 together 8x8 ran... either XMP or presets to 3200 and 3600. I understand the corsair was running the timings of the g.skill and I really wish I would have written them down before giving them to a friend 400 miles away. he sent his timings and they didn't work either because of a different mobo or because his doesn't show as many timings.

I read somewhere that MSI's auto timings sucked and that could be the issues.

Also I have a 5930k without a mobo because Asus Rampage V was a horrible choice and I have given up ( with Asus as a whole) after 3 RMAs all blaming me for the worst $800 USD I have ever spent. are there any boards better than the Godlike I should look into and use the new with this set up andmove the Godlike to the old or buy a cheap board for the 5930k?

I really appreciate any and all help any further info needed just ask.
 

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All that aside....holy crap does it look like your video card is drooping a lot in that last picture.
You might want to put a support bracket under that thing before it rips the slot off.
 

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Well, the X99A Godlike Gaming Carbon came out in 2016, and the RAM came out in 2019, after the last beta BIOS update for the mainboard. So it's safe to say that it's not properly supported by the BIOS. You could basically get some older RAM so the board knows how to handle it.

Of course, you should also update your BIOS to that latest beta BIOS for the best possible RAM support: https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/x99a-godlike-gaming-carbon#down-bios
 

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Well, the X99A Godlike Gaming Carbon came out in 2016, and the RAM came out in 2019, after the last beta BIOS update for the mainboard. So it's safe to say that it's not properly supported by the BIOS. You could basically get some older RAM so the board knows how to handle it.

Of course, you should also update your BIOS to that latest beta BIOS for the best possible RAM support: https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/x99a-godlike-gaming-carbon#down-bios
Fair point, and no it is not on the qvl but, other sets of 3600 dominator with c16 are on the qvl. plus the g.skill and the corsair, although years apart are both Samsung b-die ram. so should I possibly try older bios versions for the corsair? I am going to try RMA-ing the corsair mostly bc of the lighting issue with different colors showing on a solid stick.
 

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And what about moving forward? Would it be best to find the fastest, lowest Cass ram on the qvl and get that? I just curious because you brought up the production date and I wouldn't even know how to go about buying old dated ram.
 

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I wouldn't downdate my BIOS. The individual kit itself doesn't have to be from 2019 or older, but it would be good if that model of RAM was introduced a couple years ago. For some popular RAM, they sell it unchanged since a couple years.

That platform wasn't even validated for DDR4-3600, not even in the optimistic specifications where they mention the maximum RAM OC you can expect.

Support eight DDR4 DIMMs 2133/2200(OC)/2400(OC)/2600(OC)/2666(OC)/2750(OC)/2800(OC)/3000(OC)/3110(OC)/3333(OC)/3400(OC)DRAM (128GB Max)

There also isn't a single DDR4-3600 kit on the QVL. So yeah, if you want to be safe, get a DDR4-3200 kit they validated for four modules on the QVL.

For example, some kits that you can still buy today, introduced 2015: F4-3200C16Q-32GTZx or F4-3200C16Q-32GVKx.
"x" means that there can be another letter at the end, denoting a color, but it's otherwise identical.

As for the 5930K, it was a nice CPU once, but today it's worth about 50-100 EUR (60-115 USD) used. I wouldn't buy a mainboard for that at all, certainly not a high-end one, it would be financially unwise to say the least. If you want a second PC and have a nice budget, look at Alder Lake that just came out. The 12600K with a mid-range Z690 board will absolutely demolish that 5930K, should probably have twice as high IPC (single-thread performance) and maybe be 5x faster for multi-threaded load.
 

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If I'm honest, if it boots at 2133 and 2400, it works.
Nothing guarantees that any set of ram will work at higher speeds, even if the ram is made for it.
That being said, most likely you can get them to work if you find out the proper timings for them. XMP should work, all things considered, but from what I remember the x99 platform really didn't do well with XMP (being one of intel's first foray's into the DDR4 platform). Manual timings are probably going to be your best bet, and possibly increasing the voltage a little to get it working.
 

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a buddy and I were trying but this mobo has SOOOO many setting it is unreal. trying to find the QVL again to see what ram I should have.... I want to say it didn't play well over 3000mhz
 
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