High CPU temperatures after repasting THRICE GE65 RAIDER 9SE

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Hi! Over the past year, I have repasted my MSI GE65 Raider 9SE THREE times due to bad CPU temperatures but they still go above 95-100 degrees.
Specs are: i7-9750H, RTX 2060, 32 GB RAM

I have tried different repasting methods; the dot method, the line method, have also applied it less and more but to no avail.

The weird thing is: right after repasting, for 3-4 hours, the temperatures go down to 70-80 degrees on FULL LOAD and the CPU boosts up to 4 Ghz. But after a couple of hours, or a day, the temperatures go back right up to 95-100 and the CPU throttles back to 3.4Ghz or even lower.

I have also applied an undervolt of -0.144 but it doesn't affect the temperatures even minutely.

Currently, I have disabled turbo boost and the CPU is hitting 75 degrees at 2.6Ghz.

I do video editing so the low clock rates are hurting my render times.

Also, the thermal paste gets evenly spread across the CPU whenever I apply the thermal paste so the issue isn't caused by a bent heatsink or anything.

Is there anything else I can do?

I'm thinking of repasting it again.

I have used Mx-14 and Arctic silver 5.

The GPU temperatures are always low whenever I repaste, its just the CPU that is causing problems.
 

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normal ,,must use lower cpu ratio / undervolt "under power limit"
thermal paste on 12cores --not work long time

lower ratio / undervolt ,,,and all core load "lower iccmax" --longer life
 

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normal ,,must use lower cpu ratio / undervolt "under power limit"
thermal paste on 12cores --not work long time

lower ratio / undervolt ,,,and all core load "lower iccmax" --longer life
Thank you for the replay however, I've already applied the steps
 

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set cpu to 99% max in advanced power options

get cooling pad
 

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Check if your heat sink is really flat, even a slight bow causes temp problems.
 

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XTU ?? or what you use
TS ??
thin nb --cooling pad

xtu ,,test "core" 100amp or lower -thin nb "get edp limit"
..but not overheat on all core load ,,,,testing in your video editing -set ideal iccmax
90-94C is normal

fan curve - custom ? last points full position "dragon center"
example
cpu 20-30-50-60-100-100 -faster cooling on end

gpu is AFTERBURNER - voltage limit
curve editor
 

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Thank you for the replies guys!

I'll repaste again with thinner thermal pads (they might be causing the gap)
@next3r, I'm using throttle stop for all the underclocks and core underclocks. I've put my laptop on cooler boost which is the highest rpm the fans can achieve so it is not the fan's problem.

I think the main problem is in the heatsink. Let's hope the temperatures go down once I change the pads and reapply the thermal paste.
 

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set cpu to 99% max in advanced power options

get cooling pad
That will disable the turbo boost. I didn't spend 2500 dollars on a laptop whose CPU has a lower clock than a first-gen i3 :(
I think changing thermal pads is the way to go. Plus, I'll also pay more attention to putting extra pressure on the cpu heatsink to bridge the gap between the surfaces
 

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they are cramming faster and faster components into smaller and smaller cases. this is going to produce alot more heat
 

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Thank you for the replies guys!

I'll repaste again with thinner thermal pads (they might be causing the gap)
@next3r, I'm using throttle stop for all the underclocks and core underclocks. I've put my laptop on cooler boost which is the highest rpm the fans can achieve so it is not the fan's problem.

I think the main problem is in the heatsink. Let's hope the temperatures go down once I change the pads and reapply the thermal paste.
is normal .,.not heatsink problem ,,my is similar one 100w test and all paste dead :(
lqmetal only ,.,but bad application kill hardware
need lqmetal ,3m tape + silicon

test 100 amp or lower "this auto set lower cpu ratio under load all cores" video editing
or need better paste "lqmetal" but is RISK --hw defect is easy
for me works year still same --75-100w cpu ,,,after year sometime repasting ,..,but still is ok "not overheat"
problem is application ,,,need correct PADS on VR "lq is extra thin " // works carefully --get best results long time
heatsink -- getting small damage after using "lqmetal"

better for you is thermal paste -lower setup ,,lq is risk
 
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When did the problem happen?
Even open cooler boost the CPU temp will reach 95-100 degrees?
 

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is normal .,.not heatsink problem ,,my is similar one 100w test and all paste dead :(
lqmetal only ,.,but bad application kill hardware
need lqmetal ,3m tape + silicon

test 100 amp or lower "this auto set lower cpu ratio under load all cores" video editing
or need better paste "lqmetal" but is RISK --hw defect is easy
for me works year still same --75-100w cpu ,,,after year sometime repasting ,..,but still is ok "not overheat"
problem is application ,,,need correct PADS on VR "lq is extra thin " // works carefully --get best results long time
heatsink -- getting small damage after using "lqmetal"

better for you is thermal paste -lower setup ,,lq is risk
Thank you, I'll update you once I change the pads. and yeah I'm also not willing to go with the liquid metal. I hope the problem will be resolved by the pads :)
 

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Thank you, I'll update you once I change the pads. and yeah I'm also not willing to go with the liquid metal. I hope the problem will be resolved by the pads :)
is not pad ,,need custom pad for Lqmetal only "is extra thin" oem not works
need only lower setup --not more ,,not disaseembly
 

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When did the problem happen?
Even open cooler boost the CPU temp will reach 95-100 degrees?
The problem was there since day 1. Even if I apply a -0.1445 undervolt + thermal paste repaste + limit all cores at 3.4Ghz + put the fans on cooler boost, still the temperature goes to 95-100. So, in short, I have tested EVERY possible method except changing the thermal pads on the VRMs. So, I'm going for that now
 

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i test lot models ,,some GT 8th run on 100Ampers only ,,thin NB ?? must set normal
cpu ratio or AVXoffset for HK cpu or iccmax lower
 

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The problem was there since day 1. Even if I apply a -0.1445 undervolt + thermal paste repaste + limit all cores at 3.4Ghz + put the fans on cooler boost, still the temperature goes to 95-100. So, in short, I have tested EVERY possible method except changing the thermal pads on the VRMs. So, I'm going for that now
absurd test any stability test only rasing vid-boost and some random CORES skip to next "small error" instability
50-100 maximum ,,all need overvolt ,.not under volt :D or risk stability
....
remove TS ,,load bios defaults
and set only ICCMAX or AVX offset in XTU
under load -90-94C max
 
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problem some models run on "power limit" all time ,,undervolt only raise space for better freq ,,more power
minimal help
cpu ratio
iccmax
or avx offset only "avx offset .,negative under load"
example 45 ratio and avx offset "5" --low load 4.5ghz ,,heavy 4ghz

GE series ? 100iccmax ?? must test "need any limit" not possible use all cores on THIN NB
LQmetal only ,,but is RISK


or basic dragon center and profiles "SPORT" ?
 
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