How to fix issues with Killer Lan

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zbelcas

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Hate to be the noob here.  Tnx to you Svet, I found the latest Win7_64 drivers.  3 files but no installer.  How do I load these if I haven't loaded some other NIC driver first.  Device manager?  Will it show a default NIC?  Tnx much for the help!
 

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you mean Standard Drivers (no Killer features) or?
 

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right, standard drivers without Killer features.  have win7_64 os so downloaded the ke2200w7 files via the link you passed along.  will the os have a default NIC driver that I replace or is there some other method for installing the ke2200w7 files?  tnx again..
 

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you have to go to device manager to locate your device with yellow mark or the network killer card,
then to right click and to point to the folder where those files are located and to select the .inf file from there.
 

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ne7ven date=1437921459 said:
Could someone have Killer Cleaner 64 bit link download ? the link in this post is not available anymore ? :(
i am experience similar problems now if i download over 20 mbs per sec my network goes down, then it says my router is defect, i did not had this problem before with my x79 mainbord how do i fix this ?

I am using wired lan cable btw.
 

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Is this still an issue or has MSI updated the killer suite so that all is well and safe to install?
 

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Hi

It's rather random issue, and most commonly: caused by the whole suite (whereas installing just driver works perfectly fine).
 

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Hi I am having the same problem with the killer network built in Lan.
My motherboard is the MSI Z97A Gaming 6 Motherboard.

I did everything that was suggested with no luck to fix it  :(  it keeps going out on me  :(
I did disable the on board Lan and and uninstalled all software and drivers then I went and got this Linksys USB3GIG USB 3.0 Gigabit Ethernet Adapter.

Now that USB Network Adapter is going out on me also,I don't know whats going on please help  :(  before anyone suggests it I am not going
to send it back just cause of the on board Lan,everything else works awesome  :)  its about a month old the motherboard I mean.

Curious could a bad network cable cause this problem? The network cable is about 3 years old or more,its CAT 5e Enhanced 500Mhz,I will be getting
CAT 7 sometime soon.

One more question in a few months I plan to get this Motherboard X99A GODLIKE GAMING Motherboard,does that have the same problems like the other boards with Killer Network?  I hope not for a board that is almost $600.  

Or I might wait and get the X99A GODLIKE GAMING CARBON Motherboard.

Thank you in advance for the help.
 

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flobelix date=1455770329 said:
barrekj, please open an own thread.
I will but may I ask why?  if I did that at other forums I would get yelled at for opening multiple forums for the same subject.
 

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ceebeejohnson date=1446255324 said:
Right,

The reason why this fix is not applicable to some because they 'clearly have another problem' or 'cant follow the non official representative of MSI's instructions' is because the information is half baked and theres some insistance that as admins they are absolutely correct. Despite following the various different instructions and bad work arounds here, i have still constantly had the issue of dropouts. Its not another issue, its not windows, its not my hardware, its exactly the same problem that admins here claim to have found a solution for, that they havent fixed. Ive finally completely smashed it out on my machine and have found additional clues to the problem on my MSI GE62 2DQ Apache - The SOLE issue i have with this wonderful machine has been the god awful killer ethernet drivers.Why the f some clown thought it would be a good idea to have a hard wired ethernet port that disconnected will still interfere with a connected wifi network is beyond dumb, and anyone who thinks these types of devices ACTUALLY increase any network traffic flow must be about 12 years old. Even the theory is suspect... but i digest. I dont use a wired ethernet connection at all, i use WiFi exclusively, so to have an ethernet device cause issues with my wifi network p****s me off to no end.

First of all - Remember its actually an ATHEROS AR8161 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller (NDIS 6.30) - This is what it will display directly in device manager WHEN YOU HAVE CORRECTLY FIXED THE ISSUE
OTHERWISE IT WILL KEEP ON DISPLAYING AS A KILLER ETHERNET DEVICE AND WILL REMAIN NON FUNCTIONAL.

Heres the poop -
Disabling the ethernet in your device manager doesnt stop the dropouts. It DOES however result in faster and sometimes even instant reconnections. This is sketchy tho.
I have no idea what this killer cleaner stuff does, as it seemed to do literally nothing that using the standard windows 'uninstall program' function does. It doesnt remove keys or drivers, only the killer suite. That is all.

Heres how to fix it, so it actually works.
Go to the atheros website and download the suggested standalone drivers, ive given you the device name above.,
UNINSTALL the killer suite using the programs and features menu NOT killer cleaner. (didnt make any difference at all whether i used this or not. i suggest dont use it because i know my steps work)
UNINSTALL the device in device manager, checking the box for deleting the drivers. I find at this stage, im still connected to the internet, as at this stage your wifi card is working exactly the way it should, as a standalone device not connected by software to some half arsed rebranded network card. DISCONNECT from the internet. DO NOT go into airplane mode or anything. Just disconnect.
HERES THE PART THE ADMINS ARE MISSING
REGEDIT - Do repeated searches for 'killer' and 'e2200' - D.F.E. (Delete Effing Every) single key you find with either of those terms in it. ALL KEYS LISTING KILLER OR E2200 NO EXCEPTIONS. THIS IS HIGHLY IMPORTANT. IF YOU DO NOT DO THIS, THEN EVEN IF YOU 'SUCCESSFULLY' INSTALL THE ATHEROS DRIVERS IT WINDOWS WILL A) - STILL LIST YOUR DEVICE AS KILLER ETHERNET AND B) - STILL ATTEMPT TO OVERRIDE YOUR OEM ATHEROS DRIVERS WITH RIVET/KILLER NETWORKS MICROSOFT SUPPLIED DRIVERS. - DO NOT RESTART AT THIS STAGE. Youll also notice when you read some of the notes on the registry keys something called 'Rivet networks' appearing - This also appears to be important but more on that in a moment.

THEN - Scan hardward for changes in device manager. Your device will now come up as a generic unknown ethernet device, THIS IS GOOD
Right click on the device not working - Properties - Update driver - Browse my computer - Let me pick from a list of drivers - Have disk - Locate the files for the drivers you just downloaded, and select the device i listed above **GO THROUGH IT IN THAT ORDER OR IT WILL STILL INSIST ON AUTOMATING THE PROCESS AND WILL RE-INSTALL THE DRIVERS YOU TOLD WINDOWS TO UNINSTALL AND DELETE, AND NOT THE DRIVERS YOU ARE TELLING IT TO INSTALL**

You will then see in your device manager - A Qualcomm Atheros AR8161 entry instead of Killer e2200 and youll very quickly find that you no longer get any dropouts. I did this last night, and have not had a dropout or connection problem since.

A FURTHER OBSERVATION - I then fired up my laptop this morning to keep an eye on whether this has worked and found that my computer had 'Failed' an update..... Windows has again, ATTEMPTED TO OVERRIDE MY DRIVER INSTALLATION by attempting to install what seems to be called some 'Rivet Networks' :censored:  so im guessing this is what micropoo are using to insist their software needs to be installed. Ill now have to find a way to block that from ever happening again so i can maintain some functionality during an update cycle. Ive never trusted an OEM with new drivers.

So, now you have the actual lowdown on why A) this problem was FAR from 'Solved' in these forums and B) what the issue is and how to fix it.

_NOW_ the problems are fixed.

Have a nice day.
Hello! You seem like the one with the most experience with getting screwed over by killer products
My PC has been getting tons of BSODs nowadays and verifier.exe points towards a driver under killer e2200 found on my h87g43 gaming motherboard
Since there are only up to windows 8.1 64bit drivers (i am on windows 10 64bit)
Can i follow your instructions with windows 8.1 64bit drivers instead?
And how do i actually delete the killer thingy in the regedit?
 

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I've been lurking here for the past couple of days trying to find a solution to my own problem. I have found a solution for myself and want to share with this forum.

The system: Intel 5930K, Noctua NH-D15s, nVidia GTX 1080 SLI x2, Corsair Vengeance 2666MHz 32GB RAM, Samsung 950 PRO NVMe SSD, MSI X99A Godlike Gaming Carbon, Windows 10 64bit

The problem: Killer AC Wireless 1535 module was not recognized after install of drivers (not visible in Device Manager, taskbar, or Killer application).  Tried drivers from Killer's website as well as the official MSI Godlike Carbon motherboard downloads page. All drivers allowed me to use the Ethernet ports properly but not the wireless.

The solution: After uninstalling all Killer software via 'Programs and Features', the wireless was finally discovered by Windows for some reason but I did not have access to the Ethernet at that point. To regain Ethernet ports functionality, I tried installing the drivers again but I then lost wireless again. So I uninstalled again to restore proper wireless function. THIS TIME I downloaded the "Standard Drivers (no Killer features)" drivers from KillerNetworking.com (http://www.killernetworking.com/support/driver-downloads/standard-drivers). You must install these manually in Device Manager by right-clicking the hardware with the yellow ! error next to it and selecting correct driver folder from your disk. This allowed me to keep all networking ports functional but I do not have access to Killer's networking application.


Note: My problem was limited to the Killer Wifi module not being recognized in Windows 10 with official drivers. My problem was not BSODs or any instability like some on this forum have experienced. This may or may not fix those problems.
 

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I'm having problems with drop-outs in audio or video with Killer e2200. Those Killer Cleaner link are returning a "404 Not Found" Error. Can we please get a new link?
 

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evan2024 date=1465073351 said:
I've been lurking here for the past couple of days trying to find a solution to my own problem. I have found a solution for myself and want to share with this forum.

The system: Intel 5930K, Noctua NH-D15s, nVidia GTX 1080 SLI x2, Corsair Vengeance 2666MHz 32GB RAM, Samsung 950 PRO NVMe SSD, MSI X99A Godlike Gaming Carbon, Windows 10 64bit

The problem: Killer AC Wireless 1535 module was not recognized after install of drivers (not visible in Device Manager, taskbar, or Killer application).  Tried drivers from Killer's website as well as the official MSI Godlike Carbon motherboard downloads page. All drivers allowed me to use the Ethernet ports properly but not the wireless.

The solution: After uninstalling all Killer software via 'Programs and Features', the wireless was finally discovered by Windows for some reason but I did not have access to the Ethernet at that point. To regain Ethernet ports functionality, I tried installing the drivers again but I then lost wireless again. So I uninstalled again to restore proper wireless function. THIS TIME I downloaded the "Standard Drivers (no Killer features)" drivers from KillerNetworking.com (http://www.killernetworking.com/support/driver-downloads/standard-drivers). You must install these manually in Device Manager by right-clicking the hardware with the yellow ! error next to it and selecting correct driver folder from your disk. This allowed me to keep all networking ports functional but I do not have access to Killer's networking application.


Note: My problem was limited to the Killer Wifi module not being recognized in Windows 10 with official drivers. My problem was not BSODs or any instability like some on this forum have experienced. This may or may not fix those problems.
Have the exact same issue (with Killer AC Wireless 1535), after a windows 10 update, the wifi connection was completely gone from Network and sharing center, taskbar and killer manager application) but I found it hidden in control panel so I uninstalled its driver.  
After uninstalling the Killer software via 'Programs and Features' I still have another one with an old version (Strange) which can not be uninstalled. I guess I have to use the killer cleaner to get rid of it first then follow your steps above. Hopefully, it will work. Fingers crossed.


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Yep back to windows after 10 years and bios error 1 is the first thing to see after windows 10 intial setup and wifi is gone after a windows update. How Lovely
 

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evan2024 date=1465073351 said:
I've been lurking here for the past couple of days trying to find a solution to my own problem. I have found a solution for myself and want to share with this forum.

The system: Intel 5930K, Noctua NH-D15s, nVidia GTX 1080 SLI x2, Corsair Vengeance 2666MHz 32GB RAM, Samsung 950 PRO NVMe SSD, MSI X99A Godlike Gaming Carbon, Windows 10 64bit

The problem: Killer AC Wireless 1535 module was not recognized after install of drivers (not visible in Device Manager, taskbar, or Killer application).  Tried drivers from Killer's website as well as the official MSI Godlike Carbon motherboard downloads page. All drivers allowed me to use the Ethernet ports properly but not the wireless.

The solution: After uninstalling all Killer software via 'Programs and Features', the wireless was finally discovered by Windows for some reason but I did not have access to the Ethernet at that point. To regain Ethernet ports functionality, I tried installing the drivers again but I then lost wireless again. So I uninstalled again to restore proper wireless function. THIS TIME I downloaded the "Standard Drivers (no Killer features)" drivers from KillerNetworking.com (http://www.killernetworking.com/support/driver-downloads/standard-drivers). You must install these manually in Device Manager by right-clicking the hardware with the yellow ! error next to it and selecting correct driver folder from your disk. This allowed me to keep all networking ports functional but I do not have access to Killer's networking application.


Note: My problem was limited to the Killer Wifi module not being recognized in Windows 10 with official drivers. My problem was not BSODs or any instability like some on this forum have experienced. This may or may not fix those problems.
   Quote from: mh.emara on Wed Jun 29 2016 12:14:17 GMT+0200 (W. Europe Standard Time)

    Have the exact same issue (with Killer AC Wireless 1535), after a windows 10 update, the wifi connection was completely gone from Network and sharing center, taskbar and killer manager application) but I found it hidden in control panel so I uninstalled its driver. 
    After uninstalling the Killer software via 'Programs and Features' I still have another one with an old version (Strange) which can not be uninstalled. I guess I have to use the killer cleaner to get rid of it first then follow your steps above. Hopefully, it will work. Fingers crossed.

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Killer cleaner does not work to take away that sticky old killer performance suite (1.56.xxx) in programs. Starting a new thread....
 

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I have an MSI Z97 Gaming 5 and would like to know what is currently considered the best driver option for the Killer NIC. I'm running Windows 7 64 bit.

Some time has gone by and driver updates have come out so I'm wondering if opinions have changed.

Should I run the whole Killer Suite, just the Killer driver or the Atheros driver?

I'm actually not a heavy gamer, but do some gaming. I talk to my friend a ton on Skype, like hours a day steady. Lots of web browsing and some streaming.
Stability is actually more important to me than raw performance and I want a connection that won't drop randomly while I'm streaming or Skyping.

Thanks in advance for suggestions and feedback!
 

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Stability is actually more important to me than raw performance and I want a connection that won't drop randomly while I'm streaming or Skyping.
i would suggest using standard killer drivers:
http://www.killernetworking.com/product-support/driver-downloads/standard-drivers
they are troubles free
 
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