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I want to build 2 new computers for my wife and I. I have built a few before for my wife and I and kids but it has been 8 years now since last bulids and I'm older and easily confused (73). I thought I would ask first before I post what I need help with. I will say that I have saw a Intel processor I was thinking about and a MSI motherboard to go with it. I need help with explanations. Anyone willing ? Rick (Sorry!)
 

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Here is one of the question I have - I'm thinking of getting the Intel I510400. It says Memory support Two Channels DDR4-2666x2. Does that mean 2666 is the only memory I can use? The motherboard I was thinking was the MSI MPG Z490 Gaming Plus LGA1200 Intel Z490. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Many Thanks

 

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No it supports many kinds of DDR4 memory upto 4800 MHz. Check here:
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/MPG-Z490-GAMING-PLUS/Specification
I think the best value for money DDR4 RAM now are the 3200MHz. Any more than that will multiply exponentially in price while the performance gain is really negligable. Bearing in mind to reach that kind of speeds the motherboard overclocks (OC) the RAM by built in Intel XMP profiles. Its really multiplying the original DDR4 RAM speed by various factors to make it go faster so moderation is good and less stress and heat as well. Well thats my opinion!
 

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No it supports many kinds of DDR4 memory upto 4800 MHz. Check here:
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/MPG-Z490-GAMING-PLUS/Specification
I think the best value for money DDR4 RAM now are the 3200MHz. Any more than that will multiply exponentially in price while the performance gain is really negligable. Bearing in mind to reach that kind of speeds the motherboard overclocks (OC) the RAM by built in Intel XMP profiles. Its really multiplying the original DDR4 RAM speed by various factors to make it go faster so moderation is good and less stress and heat as well. Well thats my opinion!
I don't think I was very clear about what I was asking. I know what the motherboard accepts for Ram. It was what the processor information said that confused me. : Memory support = Two Channels DDR4-2666x2. What does that mean? I really appreciate your assistance , I guess I'm kind of dense !!
 

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Also Topo , if this new build will last as long as my last one it will be the final one I'm at the age where I don't buy any green bananas if you know what I mean? lol :biggthumbsup:
 

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I don't think I was very clear about what I was asking. I know what the motherboard accepts for Ram. It was what the processor information said that confused me. : Memory support = Two Channels DDR4-2666x2. What does that mean? I really appreciate your assistance , I guess I'm kind of dense !!
2666Mhz is just what Intel Guarantees will work 100% but most Intel CPU's will do 3200Mhz just fine.

3200Mhz RAM is the best balance you can go for just once you start them up for the first time hit DEL to get into BIOS and turn XMP on.
 

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2666Mhz is just what Intel Guarantees will work 100% but most Intel CPU's will do 3200Mhz just fine.

3200Mhz RAM is the best balance you can go for just once you start them up for the first time hit DEL to get into BIOS and turn XMP on.
Thank you very much, now I understand.
 

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Also Topo , if this new build will last as long as my last one it will be the final one I'm at the age where I don't buy any green bananas if you know what I mean? lol :biggthumbsup:
I would have gone for the i5-10600 but yours should be a fine mid range PC anyway. The best thing that its only 65W so you can easily air cool it. Just get a good M.2 drive like a 970 EVO (As large as you can afford!), min 16GB 3200 RAM, and a decent GPU (At least a 1070ti or 2060S) and you will be happily gaming for a decade...lol
 

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I would have gone for the i5-10600 but yours should be a fine mid range PC anyway. The best thing that its only 65W so you can easily air cool it. Just get a good M.2 drive like a 970 EVO (As large as you can afford!), min 16GB 3200 RAM, and a decent GPU (At least a 1070ti or 2060S) and you will be happily gaming for a decade...lol
OK, I'm open to any suggestions. I was watching You Tube and a gentleman on there suggested the i510400 for how my wife and use our PC's ( He was trying to be cost effective for me I think) . My wife just basically surfs and uses Facebook with the Kids and Grandkids. I was wanting to be sure her computer is fast in that regard. Myself, I basically use mine to do photos with Light room and surf as well. We are 73 and do no gaming. Used to game when some of the Grandkids were little. I guess the i510400 will work with the Intel B460 or Z490 Motherboards. I want to be sure that whatever I build will not be obsolete to start off with. I know I sound like an Old Dull Fart but that is what I have become (Pathetic isn't it? ). lol
So if anyone has any ideas to throw at me I would appreciate it !! Many Thanks..
This is what we have now: (8 years old)
BIOSTAR TZ75B LGA 1155 Intel Z75 HD
Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge Quad-Core 3.4GHz
CORSAIR Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM

This is what the gentleman suggested:
Rick, there are a lot of things to look at to make surfing of the internet more enjoyable. For the most part this would be overkill and this processor is not cheap. You could look at 10th gen I5-10400 and get about the same performance and save about $120. You could save more money by buying a I3-10100, which is far quicker than what you have...and would compare to a I5-9400. The main things to do to make your enjoyment of surfing the internet better would be:
1) Buy a NVME M.2 SSD (ultra fast bootup and load times for programs)
2) Buy 2=16GB of DDR4 RAM, 2667Mhz would be fine...but faster speed will increase performance. More RAM allows for more programs or tabs on the internet to be open.
3) Plug in Ethernet vs wifi if you can.
4) Relatively cheap GPU (RX550) will enhance other aspect of using your computer...and if you are using photoshop will probably improve refresh.

Sorry for the length of this post !!
 

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To be honest your current CPU/RAM/Mobo is more than adequate for your needs as you explained! I don't know what type of hard drive/SSD or graphics you have but maybe thats all you need to upgrade to make the computer faster. When you mentioned the MSI MPG Z490 Gaming Plus motherboard I thought you want to do gaming....lol
I know people still using 12 year old Core 2 Duo DDR2 4GB RAM systems with an SSD upgrade for similar use and they are still very happy with their systems but for sure these systems are not capable of running modern 3D games, video editing and more intensive applications!
 

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To be honest your current CPU/RAM/Mobo is more than adequate for your needs as you explained! I don't know what type of hard drive/SSD or graphics you have but maybe thats all you need to upgrade to make the computer faster. When you mentioned the MSI MPG Z490 Gaming Plus motherboard I thought you want to do gaming....lol
I know people still using 12 year old Core 2 Duo DDR2 4GB RAM systems with an SSD upgrade for similar use and they are still very happy with their systems but for sure these systems are not capable of running modern 3D games, video editing and more intensive applications!
I really appreciate your help! I thought that an 8 year old computer was about done although they seem to be working ok. Up grading what I have would be the best and smartest way I guess. Many Thanks !!
 
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