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Did the first test use nvidia ? 2D and 3D graphics increased alot.
INTEL Core I9 12900H Performance Question
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Did the first test use nvidia ? 2D and 3D graphics increased alot.
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1st test was on the main laptop display whereas the second one was connected to a Samsung Smart TV (1080p, 60hrz). I'm not sure why that discrepancy exists lol. And also on what i think was a Direct X12 test, the software docked 60% off the performance score. Something to do with not loading the requested resolution.
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Could it be that by plugging an external display to the HDMI it bypasses the iGPU and utilizes all of the power of the dGPU? That has to be it.
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Well according to MSI your HDMI is connected to the iGPU.
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Okay noted. Is that what's reflected here on my current setup? I still can't wrap my head around this concept for some reason.
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That seems to come into conflict with the information given by MSI.
A very lucky turn of events for you, it seems that according to Nvidia,
your laptop HDMI is connected to the RTX 3070 Ti.
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Noted. I'm a bit surprised because like you said in the PDF it shows iGPU = HDMI or something to that effect but my Control panel shows the iGPU = Display port and dGPU = HDMI. But i was under the impression that the USB Type-c port does neither display or charging. So even now it still doesn't make sense to me. Now currently I've switched to Smart TV
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It can vary a bit. I only know about the Raider and Titan and such mostly, but the output ports are ALL connected to the NVidia dGPU on those units. Because of this, any time you connect an external monitor, it auto-engages the dGPU in order to use those outputs.
On the lower end laptops, it seems that the outputs tend to be connected to the iGPU. Below is what my GE66 Raider shows for the Surround/PhysX configuration. (I have 2 monitors connected and don't use the built in display, like ever)
On the lower end laptops, it seems that the outputs tend to be connected to the iGPU. Below is what my GE66 Raider shows for the Surround/PhysX configuration. (I have 2 monitors connected and don't use the built in display, like ever)
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It seems luck is on your side with this laptop, 1x HDMI on dGPU, 1x USB-C on iGPU,
when you should be only having 1x HDMI on iGPU, you are very lucky indeed, congrats!
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That's pretty cool! But also a little confusing for me. So no matter what port you use they are all connected to the dGPU. One thing i can't wrap my head around is, isn't HDMI the more desirable display port? Like for high resolution gaming / media streaming? Thats been my thinking since the days of Pioneer HD Ready TV's. And in your case your using both the HDMI and display port simultaneously, Im assuming your laptop lid is closed? See i tried to close the lid and use only the Samsung Smart TV, but the laptop begain to heat up.
Woohoo i win the lottery! So does that mean i have a second display port? Too bad i have no way of trying it out.
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In my case, the HDMI input on the monitor is unable to run with enough bandwidth (HDMI 1.4B) to drive a 3440x1440 screen at higher than 120 Hz, meanwhile, the displayport input is able to handle it at 165 Hz (the monitor's refresh rate) or higher. It's an issue with the monitor, and not the laptop's outputs. HDMI is generally more prevalent, but displayport generally has higher bandwidth.
In this case, displayport is more desirable, because it can do the required refresh rate.
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Ah okay. So in most cases its about higher refresh rates. In my case I still don't know what G-sync is but it sounds cool pardon my ignorance. So going by how much a few tech reviews of laptops I've seen online put alot of emphasis on USB type-C and display ports over HDMI, Im assuming HDMI will be seen as quaint and outdated in a few years time. Like VGA? Or is that a stretch?
These are my current specs
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As long as TV's still have HDMI, then laptops will still have HDMI. It's basically the defacto standard when it comes to transporting video between devices.
displayport and thunderbolt/USB-C only came about because of use-case scenarios, or the need for something with more bandwidth.
At this point, displayport and HDMI are very similar enough.
USB-C has limitations due to bandwidth. Consider how much bandwidth a 4k screen at 60 Hz uses.....and the higher the refresh rate, the more bandwidth. And with 4k screens going to 120 Hz and beyond now, well, you get the idea.
displayport and thunderbolt/USB-C only came about because of use-case scenarios, or the need for something with more bandwidth.
At this point, displayport and HDMI are very similar enough.
USB-C has limitations due to bandwidth. Consider how much bandwidth a 4k screen at 60 Hz uses.....and the higher the refresh rate, the more bandwidth. And with 4k screens going to 120 Hz and beyond now, well, you get the idea.
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For shooters and fast action games, I would prefer using your laptop screen.
For all the other games, I would go with your Samsung.
As long as HDMI will adapt to new technology, it will remain same as Display Port.
That being said, just can't wait to see how well TB5 will perform.
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Maybe not for now, but at least you now that if you need it, it's there.
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I understand, but tell me, is Thunderbolt 4 all that its cracked out to be? what does it offer that's worth the extra cost other than a higher data transfer rate? From what i gather, you can connect an external GPU for a small boost of Graphics horsepower. But apparently having at least two Thunderbolt 4 ports adds alot to the price on retail.
Understood, For immersion a Curve TV is better anyway.
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In many cases, you can also chain displays together via Displayport/USB-C. From what I remember anyway......
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It's the fact you can have 2x 4K external displays per port, instead of just one.
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I see, so if you want to implement a multi monitor setup then it makes sense.
I see. I don't think i have a use for any multi display setup currently. Most of the times, I'm using the main display for surfing and the SAMSUNG for gaming.
Question, I don't really have a keen eye or knowledge regarding display specifications, I know this particular built in display is 1080p (FHD) and 360hz refresh rate. But the 15" version has better resolution at 1440p (QHD) and slightly lesser refresh rate. Neither display is OLED or LED. What do you generally look for in a display when buying? Often i find the one i have seems a bit dim sometimes.
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Well I prefer IPS, great durability, great viewing angles, good response times, bright enough for me, alright day and night, medium energy consumption.
VGA, might have image burn issues, bright screen, best in night or dark rooms, medium energy consumption.
OLED, insane response times, might have image burn issues, very bright screen, high energy consumption.
TN, great durability, poor viewing angles, great response times, colors not as deep, low energy consumption.
mini LED, poor viewing angles, slower response times, very bright screen, medium energy consumption.
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