Is buying the MSI 3080 GAMING X TRIO a bad idea?

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Hello,
I bought an MSI GeForce RTX 3080 GAMING X TRIO on launch day - which has obviously gone into a pre-order backlog queue!
But now that reviews are coming out, it looks like the cheaper ASUS 3080 TUF is the better card. I keep seeing this posted in various forums and social media:


here's the source post (based on MSI's comments from their livestream):
MSI TRIO v.s ASUS TUF PCB:
And instead of using a metal backplate it's got a plastic backplate 'coated in graphene'.

I've owned several MSI/Lighting cards and the brand has always been good for me, but with this rushed 3080 launch I now have my doubts.
Does the MSI 3080 GAMING X TRIO have any redeeming features? Or should I cancel/switch my pre-order?
 

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As the owner of one, I do not recommend it until MSI releases a new bios, or beta bios. The graphics card cools well, and the chip looks good. But with 3X8 pins, only a limit of 350W is very little, it is always drowned. ALL other RTX 3080s on the market have a higher power limit. Nvidia FE, 370W Asus TUF, with only 2X8 pins, 375W. Evga FTW3, with 3X8 pins like MSI, 420W .. And that shows, they are expensive graphics and need bios that allow them to squeeze their potential. I hope that MSi reacts and allows a beta bios even which no limits a bit the spending power in W.
 

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I must say Asus have done a pretty job with 3080 TUF so far, so most likely 3080 Strix would be even better.
Having said that and after watching two different reviews of 3080 TUF vs 3080 Gaming X, I'm bit disappointed at Gaming X. But I still think it's a pretty decent card overall in terms of cooling/performance/price.

However I also think MSI could have done better job with 3080 Gaming X, i.e. better VRM, better backplate(cos I assume one on 3090 Gaming X is better), improved cooling performance, and better RGB.
3080 Gaming X seems like step down(besides having 3x 8pin power connectors) from 2080S/2080Ti Gaming X/Z which were excellent cards.
 

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I picked up a 3080 Gaming X Trio last week and have seen similar reviews - it does seem that the TUF is a more well-rounded card.
I would point out that the Gaming X Trio is amazingly quiet though - that's a big plus point for me, and reviews seem to suggest the TUF is a little bit louder (although not by much).
My two issues with the 3080 Gaming X Trio are the plastic / "graphene" backplate which seems to promote sagging (there's another thread on this that I've posted in), and the crappy LED on the card, which isn't anything like what the 2080 Gaming X Trio (or the marketing for this card) had, with a reduced number of LEDs used producing a "bumpy" appearance rather than a fluid shifting of colours.
Still a good card imho and very quiet, but I do think MSI cut costs with a poor backplate and cheaper LED solution. If the "graphene" backplate was as amazing as they're making out, why are they using a metal backplate on their 3090 Gaming X Trio?
 

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Not sure how these cards are working today - saw a 3080FE run 375watts but the score was lower than te 352watt TrioX. Hopefully they can update the bios or power limit. I'm able to run max 2035mhz, but with 100% fan speed I'm only at 53c at full load. Obviously there's a lot of headroom in there with more voltage and watts... wonder if the wattage is hardware locked or just bios locked...

On the flipside.. the 3080 is already crazy fast.. maybe we should be just thankful we have one.
 

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Graphene backplate, hmm, i'd say it's something in between metal and plastic and should be good enough for 3080. from marketing point of view, i guess MSI is trying to differentiate each segment (ie. 3090 metal, 3080 graphene, 3070 plastic maybe). the backplate is most likely enough with the brace comes in the box when dealing with sagging problem. or I would just get a support stick from amazon to help it. (sadly, i don't have the card for "testing" purpose:ROFLMAO:)
lots of review show the MSI card has the best performance among others and the noise level is the quietest as well let's not ignore that.
the 3 power connector is what i do not get it if the power limit is only 350W but it can definitely help with the current/power distribution, temperature of the connector etc. It's the same as why some motherboard has 2 or 3 8 pin cpu power connector imo.
It's definitely a great card and i won't regret if i ever gonna buy one.
 

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I got the card the day before yesterday and yes, you can clearly feel that MSI took did some cost saving here and there, for example the sub-par RGB strip (which was way better on the 2080Ti) or the "graphene" backplate which hardly is any better than aluminium one. The main gripe is the sag caused by the plastic backplate and the "anti-sag reinforcement" that does absolutely nothing and also perhaps the unnecessary extra 8-pin contact (just like on the 2080Ti).

But the fact remains that the card is indeed silent and cools really well, especially if you try a more aggressive fan curve. I hope to be able to try the TUF someday just to compare. But in the end it all comes down to chip quality and that's the lottery as always. Still, MSI should really release a BIOS that has more generous power draw so that it's easier to undervolt the card.
 

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I got the card the day before yesterday and yes, you can clearly feel that MSI took did some cost saving here and there, for example the sub-par RGB strip (which was way better on the 2080Ti) or the "graphene" backplate which hardly is any better than aluminium one. The main gripe is the sag caused by the plastic backplate and the "anti-sag reinforcement" that does absolutely nothing and also perhaps the unnecessary extra 8-pin contact (just like on the 2080Ti).

But the fact remains that the card is indeed silent and cools really well, especially if you try a more aggressive fan curve. I hope to be able to try the TUF someday just to compare. But in the end it all comes down to chip quality and that's the lottery as always. Still, MSI should really release a BIOS that has more generous power draw so that it's easier to undervolt the card.
I really hope they do. Im 100% sure this thing I have is just lacking wattage. be sure to get the TUF OC. I've seen someone use the TUF non-OC it was not too good...
 
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Msi makes the best graphics cards and motherboards in my opinion. They are a great company all around. Don't buy from Sapphire because that company only has 2 year warranty and won't honor their warranties. My experience with Msi products have all been positive. Msi has 3 year warranty on their graphics cards and I forget what their warranty on their motherboards are but it's probably about the same time length. I don't know much about EVGA or other Nvidia card manufacturers but I do know that Gigabyte is another company with a strong warranty. I remember when I had a gtx 470 1.5gb for a year or two they honored their warranty and upgraded my gtx 470 to a 570 but it was used but the whole point is they gave me something to replace it. So I've had pretty good experience with these two companies. Sapphire on the other hands gave me hell over a rx 580 8gb I bought from them and they didn't honor their 2 year warranty. You can read about a ton of horror stories online about Sapphire refusing to RMA products. The reason Sapphire has a low RMA percentage is because they won't honor their warranty. So when you see other companies with higher RMA that's because they've honored their warranties. It is not bad for a company to have a higher RMA percentage because it means they are honoring their warranty. Sorry if this was a little off topic but I'm just telling you from my experience MSI is a great brand. I have a MSI B450 Tomahawk Max and another MSI motherboard in my i5 4670k which both work great and look aesthetically pleasing to the eyes. My only problem with Msi is that they've made some ugly looking rtx 2000 series cards. I don't know why they did that because they usually make great looking graphics cards that are black and sometimes a mix with red. That fits more in line with Msi's colors. When I thikn of MSI I think of black and red personally and I love their dragon logo.
 
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