Is it safe to use *double-sided* NVMe SSDs (such as Crucial T705) in MSI laptops, considering heat dissipation & proximity of 2nd layer to mainboard?

[Owner of Vector 16 HX AI]

By "double-sided" I am referring to the SSD having chips on both sides of the PCB, making it thicker, such as in the Crucial T705:

My main concern is that the 2nd layer will be very close to the laptop PCB and thus when the SSD gets very hot, it will transfer that heat to the mainboard and not dissipate efficiently, perhaps in time, damaging or limiting the life of my laptop. (For the record, my laptop is a MSI Vector 16 HX AI)

This pic shows the double-sided PCB very well:

Here's a different angle photo showing it's a Crucial T705:

 

[ronvessGL76]

I'm currently using a Crucial T705 2TB for my "OS" drive. It runs hotter, a minimum 11 degrees over the board (idle, lite load, game load) than my current Game (D) drive 990 Pro 4TB.
Double sided??? Are you sure? I will say I never paid attention, why because it's ONLY one of the current "Faster" SSD's that can work in a laptop, period. Off the the top of my thoughts, it is 75% faster than Gen4 SSD drives, aka 12,000 + range. Crucial T700 SSD drives are only good in desktop configurations because of the needed/massive non-passive heatsink.
That being stated I have my doubts that even the MSI Titan with it's added SSD cooling tubes will safely be able to run the Crucial T700 in playing ANY games.
Otherwise, MSI &/or it's seller's would have this option over 2 years ago. Is the Crucial T705 safe ?
Only if one watches their temps & has fan based coolers &/or box fans, air conditioning close by.... Ilano cooling pad & 2 IETS exhaust/heat suckers (could run 4 of these)
I have at least 1 or 2 of these demands & plan on ordering a Crucial T705 4TB for my gaming drive to replace the Samsung 4TB 990 Pro (D) drive.
& the heat is on. Yes they work but ONLY with proper cooling ! Oh, yes every now & then (as I carefully watch my SSD temps, I need to turn on cooler boost when needed to cool down the T705.

 

[Owner of Vector 16 HX AI]

Thanks for your report of the temperature.

Yes, the 2TB Crucial T705 is a double-sided PCB.
The 2TB Samsung 9100 PRO is a single-sided PCB and runs cooler, per my further research.

Part of the reason the Crucial runs hotter is also because it's 3.5A whereas the 2TB Samsung 9100 PRO is only 2.9 amps. They are both 3.3v but the Crucial T705 draws more power (because of the increased amperage) and, thus, part of the reason it runs hotter. See images:

I was VERY close to buying a Crucial T705, but when I learned about the heat difference (and why), I spent the extra cash and got the Samsung to avoid heat issues (not sure if there would be any problems-- just being careful).

This info may help others who are pondering similar upgades. Thanks for your reply.

 

[ronvessGL76]

There you go, dane you learn sumtin everyday. See for me I am quest for be all you can be. IIano cooler pad & IETs 102 (2 exhaust coolers & could run 4) were/are being used no matter what name SSD drives I will be using. That being said, I have faith that using an IIano cooler pad & IETs (2) along with MSI cooler boost will do it's job here. Good luck with your rig !
A Crucial T705 4TB will be order be me next week.

 

[Owner of Vector 16 HX AI]

There you go, dane you learn sumtin everyday. See for me I am quest for be all you can be. IIano cooler pad & IETs 102 (2 exhaust coolers & could run 4) were/are being used no matter what name SSD drives I will be using. That being said, I have faith that using an IIano cooler pad & IETs (2) along with MSI cooler boost will do it's job here. Good luck with your rig !
A Crucial T705 4TB will be order be me next week.

I just looked up what "llano cooler pad" and "IETs 102" are (laptop cooling pads for those who don't know) (pictured below). That's a clever idea for another way to lower temps.

You said you are using two? At the same time? lol if so, that's hardcore.

I will consider one myself. How noisy are they? That would be the only drawback for me. There's enough sound as it is with the fans inside this laptop lol.

 

[drek4]

Thanks for your report of the temperature.

Yes, the 2TB Crucial T705 is a double-sided PCB.
The 2TB Samsung 9100 PRO is a single-sided PCB and runs cooler, per my further research.

Part of the reason the Crucial runs hotter is also because it's 3.5A whereas the 2TB Samsung 9100 PRO is only 2.9 amps. They are both 3.3v but the Crucial T705 draws more power (because of the increased amperage) and, thus, part of the reason it runs hotter. See images:




I was VERY close to buying a Crucial T705, but when I learned about the heat difference (and why), I spent the extra cash and got the Samsung to avoid heat issues (not sure if there would be any problems-- just being careful).

This info may help others who are pondering similar upgades. Thanks for your reply.

Well all Gen5 SSDs will heat more than Gen4, obviously, I see that Samsung has done their homework before releasing the 9100,
again they almost always seem to impress me, but I prefer sticking with Gen4, since I do only a little video encoding and editing,
mainly on my P65 9SE, while I game or tend to other things, so time is not an issue for me.

I mainly require performance for gaming and I will obtain little gains in performance, due to the increased heat in my case,
so for me, paying extra for less performance, due to thermal constraints is not a desired outcome, since it will impede on my performance,
but with the new heat pipe design over the Gen5, in some MSI laptops, that seems to be a step in the right direction.

I already use COOLER BOOST when gaming and use a laptop stand on all my laptops and the thermals are adequate for now,
but increasing them in anyway, would be a dealbreaker for me.

Unless you do a lot of video encoding/editing, 3D rendering, etc it's not worth the price and the thermal issues that come with it,
after all these SSDs are intended to be used with heatsinks in a desktop.

But single sided is always better for better cooling, with any SSD or any Gen version.