Is MSI Claw has Bypass charging ?. and why my fan blow quite fast while in idle state ?

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Hello

1. I would like to ask is MSI Claw has bypass charging feature ?. because I notices the charging stops at 100% (I use HWMonitor app to see the charging status)
2. Why my Claw's fans blowing fast while on idle with balanced user scenario ?.it drains my battery fast while in idle state. the temperature around 50 celcius for both GPU and CPU

thanks
 
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mossbergGG said:
Hello

1. I would like to ask is MSI Claw has bypass charging feature ?. because I notices the charging stops at 100% (I use HWMonitor app to see the charging status)
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What do you mean charging feature? Charging protection as below?
If so, there is no such functions in MSI Center M for now.
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mossbergGG said:
2. Why my Claw's fans blowing fast while on idle with balanced user scenario ?.it drains my battery fast while in idle state. the temperature around 50 celcius for both GPU and CPU
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How fast is it? Based on the temperature, the fan speed is around 2400~3000 is normal.
If you still want to have lower fan speed, you can adjust the advanced fan setting to find the balanced.
 
Downey Rob said:
What do you mean charging feature? Charging protection as below?
If so, there is no such functions in MSI Center M for now.
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How fast is it? Based on the temperature, the fan speed is around 2400~3000 is normal.
If you still want to have lower fan speed, you can adjust the advanced fan setting to find the balanced.
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1. Its like Steam deck so if the battery full,the power from the charger will bypass the battery and used for power supply.
and I noticed the claw stopped charging at 80% in hibernate state. should wake it up to resume charging state to 100%
I assume that Claw has charging limit feature to prevent overcharging on the battery.
It can be good and bad at the same time if we don't have control to manage that feature.
so I need confirmation about bypass charging feature on MSI Claw which allow power to cut off from battery and bypass it to Claw machine/power state instead of battery

2. The issue was happened when I set to Balanced scenario which caused fan RPM to spin fast at 3700 - 4500 rpm
no game and app was run that time.
also checked for taskbar and stopped all gaming platforms such as Steam,Epic,etc but still won't solved my issue.
the only was to slowed down the fan was with battery saver and the fan RPM was around 2000-3000

don't know what happened but I still figuring it out until now
could be Windows update 24H2 effect,
or latest Intel Arc driver (33.0.101.6129)
or MSI center M firmware (1.0.2410.1701)
 
Downey Rob said:
What do you mean charging feature? Charging protection as below?
If so, there is no such functions in MSI Center M for now.
View attachment 194620

How fast is it? Based on the temperature, the fan speed is around 2400~3000 is normal.
If you still want to have lower fan speed, you can adjust the advanced fan setting to find the balanced.
Click to expand...
 
mossbergGG said:
1. Its like Steam deck so if the battery full,the power from the charger will bypass the battery and used for power supply.
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I think you mean if MSI Claw supports Hybrid Power, right?
What is the Hybrid Power (NOS) feature?
Hybrid Power feature enables the CPU and GPU to stay overclocking for a longer time under heavy loading by coordinating the battery and the AC power adapter for the power consumption.
As I know, MSI Claw supports this feature, so it won't bypass the battery under heavy loading usage.
mossbergGG said:
and I noticed the claw stopped charging at 80% in hibernate state.
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How did you observe this behavior? Did you determine it by noticing that the Power LED indicator did not show amber while connecting to the power adapter in Hibernate?
My Claw is with the latest BIOS(E1T41IMS.10A), and my claw can be charged under 79%(Battery capacity).
You can try to update the latest BIOS to check again.
mossbergGG said:
should wake it up to resume charging state to 100%
I assume that Claw has charging limit feature to prevent overcharging on the battery.
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"How did you observe this behavior? Did you determine it by noticing that the Power LED indicator did not show amber?"
Check agagin after updating to the latest BIOS and perform EC reset.
mossbergGG said:
2. The issue was happened when I set to Balanced scenario which caused fan RPM to spin fast at 3700 - 4500 rpm
no game and app was run that time.
also checked for taskbar and stopped all gaming platforms such as Steam,Epic,etc but still won't solved my issue.
the only was to slowed down the fan was with battery saver and the fan RPM was around 2000-3000

don't know what happened but I still figuring it out until now
could be Windows update 24H2 effect,
or latest Intel Arc driver (33.0.101.6129)
or MSI center M firmware (1.0.2410.1701)
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I am wondering if the fan RPM spinning fast at 3700 - 4500 RPM is due to overheating. Strangely, you mentioned that the temperature is around 50°C for both the GPU and CPU, and the fan speed is at 3700 - 4500 RPM. At this temperature, the fan speed shouldn't be this high; it's a bit unusual. Due to EC control the fan speed, check again after updating the latest BIOS(E1T41IMS.10A) and perform EC reset.
 
Downey Rob said:
I think you mean if MSI Claw supports Hybrid Power, right?
What is the Hybrid Power (NOS) feature?
Hybrid Power feature enables the CPU and GPU to stay overclocking for a longer time under heavy loading by coordinating the battery and the AC power adapter for the power consumption.
As I know, MSI Claw supports this feature, so it won't bypass the battery under heavy loading usage.
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So if the battery reached 100% so where the power from charger go ?.because I observed with HW Monitor app the battery stopped charging when it reached 100%. and the CPU still got supply from nowhere
Downey Rob said:
How did you observe this behavior? Did you determine it by noticing that the Power LED indicator did not show amber while connecting to the power adapter in Hibernate?
My Claw is with the latest BIOS(E1T41IMS.10A), and my claw can be charged under 79%(Battery capacity).
You can try to update the latest BIOS to check again.
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I determined this behavior just by put my claw into hibernate / sleep when the battery is low and charged it and left it.
but then when I came back and saw the indicator turned off. I thought the battery was fully charged,
but I was wrong. when I turned on my claw the battery was at 80%. and it happened most of the time.
Downey Rob said:
I am wondering if the fan RPM spinning fast at 3700 - 4500 RPM is due to overheating. Strangely, you mentioned that the temperature is around 50°C for both the GPU and CPU, and the fan speed is at 3700 - 4500 RPM. At this temperature, the fan speed shouldn't be this high; it's a bit unusual. Due to EC control the fan speed, check again after updating the latest BIOS(E1T41IMS.10A) and perform EC reset.
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yup with idle status and no games or application opened.
so does EC reset solves most of the unsual behavior of MSI Claw ?
Thanks for your advices

best regards
 
mossbergGG said:
So if the battery reached 100% so where the power from charger go ?.because I observed with HW Monitor app the battery stopped charging when it reached 100%. and the CPU still got supply from nowhere
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From the power adapter. The battery is only used when the power provided by the adapter is insufficient under heavy load conditions.
mossbergGG said:
I determined this behavior just by put my claw into hibernate / sleep when the battery is low and charged it and left it.
but then when I came back and saw the indicator turned off. I thought the battery was fully charged,
but I was wrong. when I turned on my claw the battery was at 80%. and it happened most of the time.
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I would suggested update the latest BIOS and perform EC reset. If the power adapter stops charging under hibermate/ Sleep, it could be related to hardware issue. At this case, try to perform EC reset to check.
mossbergGG said:
yup with idle status and no games or application opened.
so does EC reset solves most of the unsual behavior of MSI Claw ?
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It depends. According to the symptom, EC is one of factor to cause the issue.
 
Downey Rob said:
From the power adapter. The battery is only used when the power provided by the adapter is insufficient under heavy load conditions.
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so I assume this is Bypass charging. because that's how bypass charging works
Downey Rob said:
I would suggested update the latest BIOS and perform EC reset. If the power adapter stops charging under hibermate/ Sleep, it could be related to hardware issue. At this case, try to perform EC reset to check.
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I did EC reset. and let's see how is it going
Downey Rob said:
It depends. According to the symptom, EC is one of factor to cause the issue.
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noted. thanks for You explanations
 
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