MPG X870E CARBON WIFI Beta BIOS

[Svet]

Spoiler: Older Versions

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Notes:

• * Unstable RAM OC
• * Hang 0D when saving BIOS settings or doing M-Flash

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[DarkOmenX]

In all fairness the A33 bios work really good for me and I got the best results so far with this bios. I'm not in extreme OC but more in tunning for performance/stability and so far, works quite well. That said I never ever experienced any PCIe issues form the original bios the motherboard was shipped, and I use 3x M.2s 1xGen5 and 2xGen4 +msi 4090 Liquid X.
The M.2 are ;Corsair 700Elite , Corsair MP600 and msi Spatium M480.

 

[jph290]

I can confirm PCI-E going down to around x1 speeds on A33.
Ryzen 9 9900X, X870E Carbon Wifi, Corsair Vengeance DDR5-6000 on EXPO-1, Running Set Max Temperature 85 + Manual TDP profile to 120 TDP (only 2% difference for ~50W max power draw difference for unlocked maximums). I have the iGPU disabled and have system fans set to smart.

I have the AMD chipset drivers 7.04.09.545. I have the Nvidia 572.83 drivers from 2025-03-18.

I keep experiencing stuttering video and audio when gaming. Doesn't matter the audio connection Bluetooth or USB.

I have done CMOS resets, been on multiple of the bios versions, I have experienced the video not coming up multiple times on boot as well. Can never get M-Flash to work either and always have to use the flash back to flash the BIOS. I have never in my life dealt with so many issues with a motherboard.

I have had custom built computers for 20 years and used to do computer repair. I am about to give up on this and bring it back to Micro Center. This is the first time I have ever had an issue with an MSI product like this.

 

[L E G I T]

@jph290 You forgot to mention your graphics card. Do you have an RTX from the 50XX series? If yes, welcome to the club. For me, the problem only happens during a cold start. After one restart, everything works fine. If the problem was as bad as yours and stopped me from playing games, I would have already changed the motherboard — just not to MSI.

I tried everything, and the only (not permanent) solution is to turn on the Spread Spectrum option. This might reduce your problems a bit, but they will still happen until the "dear company" releases a fixed version of the BIOS.. like other brands did more than a month ago.

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[vic123159d02e5]

I can confirm PCI-E going down to around x1 speeds on A33.
Ryzen 9 9900X, X870E Carbon Wifi, Corsair Vengeance DDR5-6000 on EXPO-1, Running Set Max Temperature 85 + Manual TDP profile to 120 TDP (only 2% difference for ~50W max power draw difference for unlocked maximums). I have the iGPU disabled and have system fans set to smart.

I have the AMD chipset drivers 7.04.09.545. I have the Nvidia 572.83 drivers from 2025-03-18.

I keep experiencing stuttering video and audio when gaming. Doesn't matter the audio connection Bluetooth or USB.

I have done CMOS resets, been on multiple of the bios versions, I have experienced the video not coming up multiple times on boot as well. Can never get M-Flash to work either and always have to use the flash back to flash the BIOS. I have never in my life dealt with so many issues with a motherboard.

I have had custom built computers for 20 years and used to do computer repair. I am about to give up on this and bring it back to Micro Center. This is the first time I have ever had an issue with an MSI product like this.

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I wouldn’t base my entire assessment on CPU-Z and HWiNFO, information from those two is sometimes inaccurate, especially CPU-Z. It's also normal for the PCIe link speed to drop to something like PCIe 1.1 depending on load or activity. If you want a more reliable view of the situation, use GPU-Z. Start the built-in benchmark in GPU-Z and check the PCIe link speed while it’s running.

 

[DarkOmenX]

I can confirm PCI-E going down to around x1 speeds on A33.
Ryzen 9 9900X, X870E Carbon Wifi, Corsair Vengeance DDR5-6000 on EXPO-1, Running Set Max Temperature 85 + Manual TDP profile to 120 TDP (only 2% difference for ~50W max power draw difference for unlocked maximums). I have the iGPU disabled and have system fans set to smart.

I have the AMD chipset drivers 7.04.09.545. I have the Nvidia 572.83 drivers from 2025-03-18.

I keep experiencing stuttering video and audio when gaming. Doesn't matter the audio connection Bluetooth or USB.

I have done CMOS resets, been on multiple of the bios versions, I have experienced the video not coming up multiple times on boot as well. Can never get M-Flash to work either and always have to use the flash back to flash the BIOS. I have never in my life dealt with so many issues with a motherboard.

I have had custom built computers for 20 years and used to do computer repair. I am about to give up on this and bring it back to Micro Center. This is the first time I have ever had an issue with an MSI product like this.

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this must be some 50 series BS or fckup nothing close to this with my 4090 Liquid X , that pretty much nail it for the 50 series for me. I was sort of chasing it however the astronomical price kept me back, now I see the prices kind of got down for some models but with all this issues at hand...not so soon.
This is quite interesting it would be nice to see if this resolves and who is the culprit here? Nvidia or msi .

 

[vic123159d02e5]

this must be some 50 series BS or fckup nothing close to this with my 4090 Liquid X , that pretty much nail it for the 50 series for me. I was sort of chasing it however the astronomical price kept me back, now I see the prices kind of got down for some models but with all this issues at hand...not so soon.
This is quite interesting it would be nice to see if this resolves and who is the culprit here? Nvidia or msi .

Nope, I’ve had a 5090 from the start and never had any issues with the PCIe link speed. (except for one bios version can quite remember which one but i was stuck @4.0 speed not 1)

 

[marceluss19]

Some batches of this boards must be faulty and some not. I have 3x nvme, 9950x3d, MSI 5090 Suprim, 64 GB Corsair Dominator, BIOS A30, expo + PBO, and not one single problem you mention guys. I am building computers 30 years, something about hw issues I know.

 

[pogdmm]

Some batches of this boards must be faulty and some not. I have 3x nvme, 9950x3d, MSI 5090 Suprim, 64 GB Corsair Dominator, BIOS A30, expo + PBO, and not one single problem you mention guys. I am building computers 30 years, something about hw issues I know.

I suspect the issues are only with GPUs from other AIBs. I have no problems at all with my Vanguard on this board. Although originally I had an Astral, and it would hang at x1.1 speed without boosting — I returned it.

 

[jph290]

@jph290 You forgot to mention your graphics card. Do you have an RTX from the 50XX series? If yes, welcome to the club. For me, the problem only happens during a cold start. After one restart, everything works fine. If the problem was as bad as yours and stopped me from playing games, I would have already changed the motherboard — just not to MSI.

I tried everything, and the only (not permanent) solution is to turn on the Spread Spectrum option. This might reduce your problems a bit, but they will still happen until the "dear company" releases a fixed version of the BIOS.. like other brands did more than a month ago.

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Oops, yep MSI RTX 5070Ti Vanguard SoC Launch Edition.
Edit: I did turn on spread spectrum and switched the idle to typical.

 

[L E G I T]

I suspect the issues are only with GPUs from other AIBs. I have no problems at all with my Vanguard on this board. Although originally I had an Astral, and it would hang at x1.1 speed without boosting — I returned it.

I have an RTX 5080 Gaming Trio OC and I'm experiencing this issue, even though it's paired with an MPG B850 EDGE TI WIFI, so unfortunately you're wrong.

 

[pogdmm]

 

[pogdmm]

I have an RTX 5080 Gaming Trio OC and I'm experiencing this issue, even though it's paired with an MPG B850 EDGE TI WIFI, so unfortunately you're wrong.

 

[Indabox]

I have been reading through forums from different MB vendors the last few days and its not just MSI having issues.. it seems the entire line of x870/x870e motherboards across multiple brands are having issues. Not always the same issues but issues. Some USB related, some Wifi or ethernet etc.. Throw a 5000 series Nvidia GPU into the mix and you have a dumpster fire. Nvidia has major issues with their drivers right now that may even need a vBios update across all brands to fix.. (Nvidia has not come out and said this, just my guess).

Still on BIOS 33
I have have now disabled all undervolting leaving CPU settings stock and have switched my ram from the 6000mhz CL30-36-36-80 Expo profile to the OPP Hynix profile at 6000mhz CL30-38-38-96. I have only tested a couple cold boots so far, but am seeing successful boots.. will continue testing later this evening. I still have the PCI-e gen issue where it locks into gen 1-3 instead of 5, but 1-2 restarts normally fixes that. Without undervolting, my CPU temps are higher (5-7c) during a cinebench multicore test and the cores top out at around 5,030mhz. undervolting I would hit and hold max 5,250mhz with cooler temps. In games, I have noticed about a 1-2fps loss so not as big a deal there.. but benchmarking performance has gone way down.

Either way, this has been the most unstable PC build I have ever done and thats over the last 25 years. Now, this is my 1st time going with an AMD platform as well.. My last build was a Intel 9700k with a RTX 3080 (both MSI MB and GPU) and it was solid the 1st time I booted it up.

I hope MSI keeps working on these issues to get them fixed because its a nice board configuration, just very unstable... I am also looking at another brand MB to try, just need to find one that does not have reports of the same cold boot issues. I will sacrifice "some" performance for stability... but ultimately these boards should perform as advertised while being stable.

MSI please keep working on fixing things and stabilizing this board!!

ok.. end of rant.....

 

[jph290]

Some batches of this boards must be faulty and some not. I have 3x nvme, 9950x3d, MSI 5090 Suprim, 64 GB Corsair Dominator, BIOS A30, expo + PBO, and not one single problem you mention guys. I am building computers 30 years, something about hw issues I know.

I am not ruling that out honestly but the bios being borked will show as a hardware issue. Without using the exact same components with a CMOS clear and then same settings on the same BIOS it is hard to say. I had the wifi disappear after updating to A33 (I had done a CMOS clear) and it didn't come back until a cmos clear again. When it came back I started to notice issues. I switched the wifi/Bluetooth to BT Only now. I am going to try my game now that I turned on spread spectrum and changed the idle power to typical.

 

[jph290]

I wouldn’t base my entire assessment on CPU-Z and HWiNFO, information from those two is sometimes inaccurate, especially CPU-Z. It's also normal for the PCIe link speed to drop to something like PCIe 1.1 depending on load or activity. If you want a more reliable view of the situation, use GPU-Z. Start the built-in benchmark in GPU-Z and check the PCIe link speed while it’s running.

With GPU-Z doing the load test it looks to be staying at x16. I have been seeing my card swap between reliability voltage and power as limit even though it is only pulling 50W. That is a Nvidia issue though.

 

[Alyred]

Well, PCIe speed lock issues after resuming from sleep again today, so setting the speed to "auto" didn't fix it. At least in this case, it didn't get "stuck" on 1.1 and is sitting at 2.0, and will bump up to 4.0 for a few seconds when running the render test, then back down to 2.0 again while the test continues to run.
It's noticeable when resuming from sleep as my mouse gets really jumpy for a few seconds, like it's having trouble initializing things after the resume. When it gets stuck at 1.1 that will continue and make it unusable, and then eventually crashes to restart the machine. With 2.0 it seems "stable" and will at least allow me to do a graceful restart I suppose.
I'll turn on spread spectrum and see if that's at least stable for a longer term. But this is still really irritating.

 

[vic123159d02e5]

Well, PCIe speed lock issues after resuming from sleep again today, so setting the speed to "auto" didn't fix it. At least in this case, it didn't get "stuck" on 1.1 and is sitting at 2.0, and will bump up to 4.0 for a few seconds when running the render test, then back down to 2.0 again while the test continues to run.
It's noticeable when resuming from sleep as my mouse gets really jumpy for a few seconds, like it's having trouble initializing things after the resume. When it gets stuck at 1.1 that will continue and make it unusable, and then eventually crashes to restart the machine. With 2.0 it seems "stable" and will at least allow me to do a graceful restart I suppose.
I'll turn on spread spectrum and see if that's at least stable for a longer term. But this is still really irritating.

Something feels off here, as I don’t experience that even after waking up from sleep. The spread spectrum is always disabled because it impacts overclocking too much.
I do believe like Indabox said earlier in this thread that x870 and x870e is broadly experiencing problems across all brands, does MSI resolve it better ? Even though I’ve spent so much time tweaking that board that I feel almost connected to it, I still believe MSI hasn’t done a better job at resolving these issues. I do think they’re trying, but does that effort actually pay off? I’m a lot less sure about that.

 

[Alyred]

Something feels off here, as I don’t experience that even after waking up from sleep. The spread spectrum is always disabled because it impacts overclocking too much.
I do believe like Indabox said earlier in this thread that x870 and x870e is broadly experiencing problems across all brands, does MSI resolve it better ? Even though I’ve spent so much time tweaking that board that I feel almost connected to it, I still believe MSI hasn’t done a better job at resolving these issues. I do think they’re trying, but does that effort actually pay off? I’m a lot less sure about that.

I agree. I didn't have a single issue with PCIe getting locked until about a week ago, while still using A25. Now it's happening every few times I resume from sleep... maybe every 5th or 6th time or so.
Today's was resolved by sleeping and resuming again, without a restart. Going back up to PCIe 5.0. Just don't know what to say here. Nothing else changed in my configuration, no new devices in my environment.

 

[kkrott87]

I suspect the issues are only with GPUs from other AIBs. I have no problems at all with my Vanguard on this board. Although originally I had an Astral, and it would hang at x1.1 speed without boosting — I returned it.

Same here. I did not upgrade to A33. Still on A30 but the only problem I had since day 1 was when using old BIOS ver. and pc not posting because of too many USB devices on the back of the mobo.
Now it's just perfect. GPU is 5090 Vanguard. I'm afraid to upgrade to A33 after reading all comments here lol

 

[DarkOmenX]

Something feels off here, as I don’t experience that even after waking up from sleep. The spread spectrum is always disabled because it impacts overclocking too much.
I do believe like Indabox said earlier in this thread that x870 and x870e is broadly experiencing problems across all brands, does MSI resolve it better ? Even though I’ve spent so much time tweaking that board that I feel almost connected to it, I still believe MSI hasn’t done a better job at resolving these issues. I do think they’re trying, but does that effort actually pay off? I’m a lot less sure about that.

Well In my experience even before and that was basically my first AMD systems I build for myself as I always had INTEL machines but did build a lot of AMD builds for others , so this one on X570 +3950X followed by X570S+5950X both boards msi ACE I had nothing but problems ,instability issues and worse of all USB issues and M.2 issues it was so bad for both systems that I had enough and switch back to INTEL 13gen followed by 14th gen just to end up in potential even worse situation throw in 4090 that could potentially end up in flames that's a DUMPSTERFIER at highest level.
For both X570 board issues where almost identical, USB randomly disconnecting/connecting during gaming or while in windows for example while flying in DCS one of my controllers would suddenly disconnect ,randomly either the Throttle or stick or pedal, you would hear that annoying windows PING sound and I'm suddenly diving nose down towards earth , or some BS like gears com down midflight , or throttle doesn't work and crap like that .
Disappearing M.2s after restart or cold boot, Sonundblaster AE-5Plus ,crackling or breaking up audio while using DDL or DTS Encoders, it was a hell show for me that I said...fck this! never again AMD build for me.
However here I am and so far, I have nothing of my previous issues or any of this mentioned in this thread, but I do believe they exist and don't question people who experience issues as I was there too while others swore, they have no issues on practically same or similar system or hardware.
So, it seems not to be only this chipset generation issue but generations wide and having an AMD system seems to be a lottery, ether you lucky and everything works as it should, or you may find yourself in a world of pain, hair pooling and misery.