MPG X870E CARBON WIFI Beta BIOS

A24 and A25 are stable. :biggthumbsup:
 

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Those are really spectacular RAM numbers... is that just with XMP/EXPO on? Or did you manually tune it?

What are your FCLK and is your UCLK=MEMCLK?

I didn't make any manual settings, just the XMP profile selected.
 

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Hm, I'm not able to get my numbers anywhere near that high with that low of latency. I have some work to do, maybe I'll just try out XMP when I upgrade to A25 and tighten from there...
 
95c is pretty high and definitely thermal throttling you.
I just got my separate system I'm building up to A25 and set the configs back to what I had them before on that board (It's going to be the Wife's machine but her current one is working fine, so I get to experiment a bit...) and it seems to be running stable. Drive speeds did improve some but not back up to the speeds that @zonachristiany12280298 was seeing - but read and write broke the 1.2m IOPS barrier on multiple attempts. I'm seeing really unusually high TBW for those drives, especially since one is completely empty, hasn't been used yet (just the 4 performance tests) and the TBW is already over 1TBW. Though I don't think that's the board's issue but something with Samsung.
Otherwise, it does seem fairly stable on A25 so far. My RAM came in slightly slower with the same settings as before (a couple of thousand MB/S transfer speed slower) and with a bit higher latency (.2ns, but that could be statistically insignificant). I'm running -20 curve on all cores with +200 Mhz boost clock at the moment, and while all cores will boost to the max 5425mhz a few of the cores averages are still showing around 5350's or so, so not able to maintain that boost for as long as some of the others that are able to maintain 5390+ average.
Temps don't break 73 on mine and set my max to 85 in the BIOS. But really not approaching that at all. So I probably have some headroom with my cooler there, but probably not going to push that too much because the wife just wants it to work and not fiddle with it once I'm done. :) Anyway, didn't see that slightly off boost performance in A23 or A24. But I'd say that's still fairly acceptable if it's stable.
Hopefully they can find a fixable issue with the NVMe ports for the speeds to get back to normal. A drive going through the chipset definitely shouldn't show better performance than one attached directly to the CPU.
I referred to 95c in stress test. In normal use it is between 49c and 73c. My CO setup is:
C0 -14
C1 -14
C2 0
C3 - 1
C4 - 4
C5 -10
C6 -14
C7 -14
C8 -27
C9 -27
C10-27
C11-27
C12-22
C13-27
C14-27
C15-27
 
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I have installed the E7E49AMSI.1A25 version, and my settings are exactly as shown in the photo. However, my system still keeps freezing.
There are numerous logs related to this issue in the Event Viewer, and I haven't been able to find a solution for these freezes.
Additionally, many other users are experiencing the same issue, as seen in the Reddit discussion I started. This seems to be a widespread problem.


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I have installed the E7E49AMSI.1A25 version, and my settings are exactly as shown in the photo. However, my system still keeps freezing.
There are numerous logs related to this issue in the Event Viewer, and I haven't been able to find a solution for these freezes.
Additionally, many other users are experiencing the same issue, as seen in the Reddit discussion I started. This seems to be a widespread problem.


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This is going to sound crazy...
I was using a known-good, stable with my hardware BIOS profile that I've tested several times now. I tried a different RAM setting which locked my boot at code 3b after memory training, so I reset the BIOS with the hardware again and then reloaded my exact same BIOS profile from the profiles page. I went back into Windows to run another stability test, and it started throwing CPU+Memory errors after about 11 minutes. So I went back to BIOS and did a "restore defaults" from the "save and exit" page, then re-loaded the exact same profile, and now it's stable.
Maybe try this:
Go into BIOS and load the defaults from the "save and exit" menu. Then set the other options like you have above, though I would disable memory context restore for the moment. This could also be holding on to weird settings from previous RAM training. Once you get your RAM trained and tested stable you can turn back on MCR.
Your memory settings look OK for the basics, nothing that a 9800x3d shouldn't be able to handle. Go into the "advanced memory" menu under Overclock and set your values for tCL and your other known timings to match your RAM's specs (32-36-36-76 or whatever) and leave the rest at Auto. Again, leave Memory Context Restore disabled for now.
Make sure the voltage on your RAM matches what your RAM supports (probably 1.4v, I have the same RAM but 6600 tuned down to 6200), tune SoC under "CPU NB/SoC Voltage" to "AMD Overclocking" and then set the SOC Voltage field that opens under that to 1.26. It'll jump to 1.3 under XMP but mine has not needed to be that high and still run stable, I've also been able to tune my RAM down to 1.37v.
Give those a try and see if you see more stability after the BIOS Defaults are loaded. My test on OCCT Extreme that found errors after 11 minutes has been running stable now for 50 minutes. So it was definitely something still stuck in the BIOS even after a hard reset with the BIOS reset button. I'm currently running A24 on my main machine, A25 on the testing machine and both are running stable at the moment.
 
I referred to 95c in stress test. In normal use it is between 49c and 73c. My CO setup is:
C0 -14
C1 -14
C2 0
C3 - 1
C4 - 4
C5 -10
C6 -14
C7 -14
C8 -27
C9 -27
C10-27
C11-27
C12-22
C13-27
C14-27
C15-27
Ah, looks like you're using a 16 core chip, so that explains the higher temps in stress testing. I can't get my 9800x3d to break 75.
 
Cada revisión del BIOS cambiará un poco las curvas y los tiempos de RAM personalizados, y es necesario encontrar la nueva configuración ideal. El funcionamiento de esta tecnología de vanguardia puede verse afectado definitivamente si se modifica parte del código subyacente.

¿Qué inestabilidad experimentaste con A24? No he tenido ningún problema con él todavía, pero estoy ejecutando curvas PBO y OC bastante conservadoras en este momento con una temperatura máxima establecida en 85, All-core -15 y boost +100.
With the A24, when I turned on the PC, it started cold and took a long time to load Windows. Once it managed to start, everything was very slow; the mouse pointer moved in jumps and even shutting it down was difficult. This was only fixed by restarting the system, at which point everything went back to normal. Additionally, I experienced some unexpected reboots as the PC would freeze. However, with the A25, everything works perfectly. Al core -30 and boost+200.
 
MSI still doesn't know how to make bios, after a few years of break I hoped that they had learned something, but only the appearance has changed and there are still problems with everything, it's just a tragedy and one big piece of crap, a board for 500 euros has some problem every now and then, it works for 2 days and then it stops working and you have to start the bios again
 
my second board asus strix b650e-e works better than x870e carbon it's a joke,
I was going to sell it, but now I have to look for a deer who will buy this MSI x870e carbon crap from me
 
With the A24, when I turned on the PC, it started cold and took a long time to load Windows. Once it managed to start, everything was very slow; the mouse pointer moved in jumps and even shutting it down was difficult. This was only fixed by restarting the system, at which point everything went back to normal. Additionally, I experienced some unexpected reboots as the PC would freeze. However, with the A25, everything works perfectly. Al core -30 and boost+200.
Good to hear. I pushed mine to -25 and some cores started not being able to reach their potential but wasn't seeing crashes or errors, backed those cores to -20 and everything is running stable with the +200 boost, temps averaging around 65 during the OCCT Extreme AVX512 stress test over 3 hours.
These BIOS updates are definitely holding on to some previous settings, even through a hard BIOS reset. Something's going sideways, and loading the defaults seems to fix those every time. I still think there's additional issues to work out, though: The memory controller still seems pretty slow on the 9800x3d's with the A25 BIOS (78 and 79 x3d chips seem to hit speeds in the 80GB/s and latencies in the low 60ns, whereas the best I can get with manual tuning is 68GB/s and high 60ns.) and the M2_3 slot seems to be performing better on certain drives than the M2_1 slot... hopefully they will get those issues fixed.
My computer is stable now, but would like to get the better performance out of it.
 
I'm back to the original problem. After two stable days, now the computer shuts down when running CB23 or Topaz Gigapixel. Resetting the BIOS doesn't help, and setting default values doesn't help either. Everything is simply unusable. I also noticed that my CPU-z score dropped from 18100 to 17600.
 
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I'm back to the original problem. After two stable days, now the computer shuts down when running CB23 or Topaz Gigapixel. Resetting the BIOS doesn't help, and setting default values doesn't help either. Everything is simply unusable. I also noticed that my CPU-z score dropped from 18100 to 17600.

Could it be caused by Windows 11 Pro - 24H2? I haven't upgraded to 24H2 yet and A25 works stably.
 
Could it be caused by Windows 11 Pro - 24H2? I haven't upgraded to 24H2 yet and A25 works stably.
I was already using Windows 11 24H2 and it was stable until yesterday. And now the PC only freezes when running these specific programs, otherwise I didn't notice any problems, including in BIOS version A25 the wifi no longer disappears, whereas before it disappeared after the crash.
Edit: I'm suspecting there's a power cut, it remains to be seen if it's the motherboard or not. I tested the connection of the additional PCI power cable and the same thing happens. My power supply has 1250w and this kind of problem has never happened on the Strix-F z790 and Aorus Master z790 motherboard.
Edit 2: Confirmed: power supply temperature. I installed a weaker power supply (850W from Corsair) and it was cooler, so everything worked wonderfully. I installed the stronger power supply (1250w), but it was getting very hot and then the PC crashed. I immediately put the weaker power supply back in and everything worked. I returned the stronger power supply, and it crashed again. The stronger power supply only started working properly again after it cooled down.
 
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I was already using Windows 11 24H2 and it was stable until yesterday. And now the PC only freezes when running these specific programs, otherwise I didn't notice any problems, including in BIOS version A25 the wifi no longer disappears, whereas before it disappeared after the crash.
Edit: I'm suspecting there's a power cut, it remains to be seen if it's the motherboard or not. I tested the connection of the additional PCI power cable and the same thing happens. My power supply has 1250w and this kind of problem has never happened on the Strix-F z790 and Aorus Master z790 motherboard.
Edit 2: Confirmed: power supply temperature. I installed a weaker power supply (850W from Corsair) and it was cooler, so everything worked wonderfully. I installed the stronger power supply (1250w), but it was getting very hot and then the PC crashed. I immediately put the weaker power supply back in and everything worked. I returned the stronger power supply, and it crashed again. The stronger power supply only started working properly again after it cooled down.


I recommend you try these settings, I use them without any problems:

Optimum ram sets:
UCLK=MEMCLK
FLCK:
2133
CPU SOC: 1.25V
DRAM VDD: 1.4v
DRAM VDDQ: 1.35v

Optimum PBO Settings:

(You should make all your PBO settings from the AMD Overclock menu. This way you get the most optimum result.)

AMD PBO menu
PBO: Advanced
PBO Limit: Motherboard
PBO Scalar: 5X
CPU Boost: Manual +100
Platform Thermal Throttle: 75C
Curve Optimizer: Negative 15
 

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I was already using Windows 11 24H2 and it was stable until yesterday. And now the PC only freezes when running these specific programs, otherwise I didn't notice any problems, including in BIOS version A25 the wifi no longer disappears, whereas before it disappeared after the crash.
Edit: I'm suspecting there's a power cut, it remains to be seen if it's the motherboard or not. I tested the connection of the additional PCI power cable and the same thing happens. My power supply has 1250w and this kind of problem has never happened on the Strix-F z790 and Aorus Master z790 motherboard.
Edit 2: Confirmed: power supply temperature. I installed a weaker power supply (850W from Corsair) and it was cooler, so everything worked wonderfully. I installed the stronger power supply (1250w), but it was getting very hot and then the PC crashed. I immediately put the weaker power supply back in and everything worked. I returned the stronger power supply, and it crashed again. The stronger power supply only started working properly again after it cooled down.
Sounds like you're "stronger" power supply is defective and needs to be exchanged if it's still under warranty.
 
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