MPG X870E CARBON WIFI Beta BIOS

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  • * Unstable RAM OC
  • * Hang 0D when saving BIOS settings or doing M-Flash

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It's just a disappointing board, like the whole X870 series from MSI (and yeah not only MSI I know…). The first board I bought was the Tomahawk, it booted once… then instantly died. Sent it to RMA, and the answer was that I didn’t properly insert the CPU and bent the pins… sure why not. It booted and then died but yeah must be me. Only been building PCs for 30 years so maybe I’m still a noob…

So they charged me $40 to “fix” it. Got it back, it booted, installed Windows, and the third boot was the last one I ever saw from that mobo.

Back to square one. Bought a Carbon like an idiot… had USB issues for months until they finally fixed it (couldn’t even boot with a USB stick plugged in, absolute joke). Also had problems running 4 sticks of DDR5… and tweaking the 9850X3D was another story after that. The BCLK overclocking actually went fine with the 9800X3D, but moving to the 9850X3D and trying to dial things in just turned into something I never really figured out. Making this chip impossible to even reach 70°C clearly means there’s something left on the table I never managed to unlock.

This thing is sold for gaming/overclocking enthusiasts, but in reality it’s just a $250–300 board sold for $450 (at least when I bought it). Like the person above me(and a few others..) I’ll probably go Dark Hero for my next mobo, at least I know what I’m paying for this time.
 
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Sko-Induktor said:
I’ve also switched to the X870E Dark Hero.

- The Dark Hero takes significantly longer to boot up and initialize devices. It's still totally fine, but maybe that was exactly the problem with Carbon (initialization too fast). That would at least explain why every reboot/ warm start never caused any issues.

- I've two monitors connected to the 5080. With the Carbon, the OLED always flickered very slightly in dark areas at first few minutes (gaming was always fine). With the Dark Hero, I don’t see any flickering.
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It's funny because I have noticed the opposite. My carbon took a while to boot and would often take a couple minutes like it was fully retraining memory again. No issues like that on the Dark Hero at all. Boots up fast for me. I have fast startup disabled in windows as well. I also had random flickering at times with the carbon that no longer happen with the DH. I'm just assuming my carbon was a lemon..
 
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vic123159d02e5 said:
It's just a disappointing board, like the whole X870 series from MSI (and yeah not only MSI I know…). The first board I bought was the Tomahawk, it booted once… then instantly died. Sent it to RMA, and the answer was that I didn’t properly insert the CPU and bent the pins… sure why not. It booted and then died but yeah must be me. Only been building PCs for 30 years so maybe I’m still a noob…

So they charged me $40 to “fix” it. Got it back, it booted, installed Windows, and the third boot was the last one I ever saw from that mobo.

Back to square one. Bought a Carbon like an idiot… had USB issues for months until they finally fixed it (couldn’t even boot with a USB stick plugged in, absolute joke). Also had problems running 4 sticks of DDR5… and tweaking the 9850X3D was another story after that. The BCLK overclocking actually went fine with the 9800X3D, but moving to the 9850X3D and trying to dial things in just turned into something I never really figured out. Making this chip impossible to even reach 70°C clearly means there’s something left on the table I never managed to unlock.

This thing is sold for gaming/overclocking enthusiasts, but in reality it’s just a $250–300 board sold for $450 (at least when I bought it). Like the person above me(and a few others..) I’ll probably go Dark Hero for my next mobo, at least I know what I’m paying for this time.
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The X570/X570S series was my quirky experience, and before that, I spent over 30+ years exclusively with Intel. Intel until the 13th/14th gen, was a rock-stable platform with predictable hardware. As for msi degradation for quite some time now, there’s always uncertainty, unpredictable behavior and a lottery of hardware not to mention non-existent support and customer blame rhetoric and price hike. This is my last ever build with msi components. I remember my Carbon was 570USD or around but over 500 for sure when I bought it.
 
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Indabox said:
It's funny because I have noticed the opposite. My carbon took a while to boot and would often take a couple minutes like it was fully retraining memory again. No issues like that on the Dark Hero at all. Boots up fast for me. I have fast startup disabled in windows as well. I also had random flickering at times with the carbon that no longer happen with the DH. I'm just assuming my carbon was a lemon..
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Seems almost every Carbon is a lemon, some are just more rotten than others... :ROFLMAO:
 
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Alyred said:
Seems almost every Carbon is a lemon, some are just more rotten than others... :ROFLMAO:
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So, why people do not return in the first weeks, or RMA faulty boards, and chose to fighting with trash and whining on Internet forums? Sorry for offensive tone, but I can’t understand this mentality. If something do not working as intended, instant RMA, if can not wait, do some investigation about other vendors mobos, buy new, and sell when RMAed one come back.
 
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marceluss19 said:
So, why people do not return in the first weeks, or RMA faulty boards, and chose to fighting with trash and whining on Internet forums? Sorry for offensive tone, but I can’t understand this mentality. If something do not working as intended, instant RMA, if can not wait, do some investigation about other vendors mobos, buy new, and sell when RMAed one come back.
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Maybe because some of this issue are not recognizable in the first week , you build your system lets say add an custom cooling everything tied up and you still get to know the system. This quirky issues are not so defined at beginning then when you finally figure out there is some crap going on you investigate all around lose time again and again , then there is the rotten RMA policy which even if the board has issues but it works in "general parameters" they will return it ,maybe even charge you for shipping and then what ??? now I could go on and on why ...
 
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marceluss19 said:
So, why people do not return in the first weeks, or RMA faulty boards, and chose to fighting with trash and whining on Internet forums? Sorry for offensive tone, but I can’t understand this mentality.
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first weeks ≠ one year later

I bought the Carbon in November 2024 together with a 9800X3D. Rest like RAM, SSDs, GPU, etc. I already had. Did a lot of tweaking, played around with different RAM kits and configurations, ran tests and benchmarks, everything worked fine. Almost a year later, I upgraded to a 5080, and then the PCIe and cold boot issues started.
 
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I bought mine in January 2025 from a local retail store that was also an MSI-certified dealer, the 9800X3D over AMD Amazon store. At the time, I had the 4090 Liquid X and had zero issues from day one. In May 2025, I upgraded to the 5090 Liquid SOC, purchased from the same store as the motherboard. In November 2025, my 5090 suffered a 12VHPWR melting issue, which in my case was more severe on the PSU side; the GPU side only had a smudge on one pin, but the connector appeared intact. The PSU protection kicked in several times before I realized there was a problem, as I didn’t smell anything. After the shocking realization, I brought the card to the dealer, who initially took it but, a few days later, on behalf of MSI, flat-out refused any RMA, proper inspection, or even sending the card to MSI for evaluation. Their mail made it clear they immediately accused me of overclocking and also blamed the PSU, a TT 1200W GF3 Gold.
The arrogance of the letter the dealer showed me was shocking. Of course, without MSI’s support, the dealer had no choice but to return the card.
The card survived, and after buying a new PSU, it fortunately works without issues.
However, the tone and outright refusal to even inspect the card, when the 12VHPWR issue is a well-known problem, was the final straw for me MSI is dead to me for any future builds.
 
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marceluss19 said:
So, why people do not return in the first weeks, or RMA faulty boards, and chose to fighting with trash and whining on Internet forums? Sorry for offensive tone, but I can’t understand this mentality. If something do not working as intended, instant RMA, if can not wait, do some investigation about other vendors mobos, buy new, and sell when RMAed one come back.
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I was in the return window when I came across the PCI-E bug, and I also discovered it was across the entire MSI lineup. So my choice was gigabyte motherboards (not doing ASUS or ASROCK). I didn't swap to a gigabyte because it's still unclear to me to this day if it's fixed on gigabyte motherboards or not, except a single article from may 2025. Everybody I messaged on reddit just didn't respond. I also thought it would be investigated and fixed, but here we are.
 
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davidsalaskalendar912b102a5 said:
Soo i forgot about it, and today i noticed the issue is happening again without having done anything strange, antivirus on, secure boot, everything normal.

Also, i checked AMD soft, and there everything seems allright.
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Turns out that the input lag, just the input lag, was because my Razer Basilik V3 Pro 35K is failing on 2.4Ghz for some reason, not bluetooth, not wired.

Update, now im suffering from input lag, and input freezes and the issue happends a lot more.

Also, to add, the other day, 2 days ago, wifi stopped completly working, which is not the 1r time that has happend to me, and i had to reset the entire BIOS as allways to fix it, but also, i couldn't restore my old BIOS profile that i spent 2 entire days optimizing with specific ram timing presets, specific underclocks and more, because, the MSI Usb stick that came with the mb failed, simply it works whenever it wants, or sometimes it opens and when i try to open any file the usb disconects.
 
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Greetings all,

Been awhile since posting here and was wondering what the overall best bios is? I am currently on A64 which has run great for awhile now but recently I had an issues with the pc shutting off and then not wanting to get past the memory check upon boot up. I had to play around with it for awhile but it seems to be behaving for now. Just nervous these issues might rear their ugly heads again.
 
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matthew.daniel.gar158602ea said:
Greetings all,

Been awhile since posting here and was wondering what the overall best bios is? I am currently on A64 which has run great for awhile now but recently I had an issues with the pc shutting off and then not wanting to get past the memory check upon boot up. I had to play around with it for awhile but it seems to be behaving for now. Just nervous these issues might rear their ugly heads again.
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Hi there. I completely understand the nerves when the system starts acting up during memory training but I can tell you from my experience that you should definitely move away from the older A64 version and jump to the latest 7E49v1A95 with AGESA PI 1.3.0.0. I have been running this latest version on my MPG X870E CARBON WIFI for a while now and the stability is rock solid with no issues at all. This update specifically mentions improved compatibility for PCIe based devices and it includes the latest secure boot certificates and anti cheat mechanisms which makes the system feel very snappy and optimal. Since you are having those random shut offs and boot hangs the fixes in this new AGESA version for power delivery and memory training are exactly what your board needs. My advice is to clear your CMOS after the update and let the board do a fresh memory training because since I switched to this version I have not had a single cold boot issue or hang. It is definitely the best and most mature BIOS for our board right now and it should clear up those issues for you.
 
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Vendex_AMD said:
Hi there. I completely understand the nerves when the system starts acting up during memory training but I can tell you from my experience that you should definitely move away from the older A64 version and jump to the latest 7E49v1A95 with AGESA PI 1.3.0.0. I have been running this latest version on my MPG X870E CARBON WIFI for a while now and the stability is rock solid with no issues at all. This update specifically mentions improved compatibility for PCIe based devices and it includes the latest secure boot certificates and anti cheat mechanisms which makes the system feel very snappy and optimal. Since you are having those random shut offs and boot hangs the fixes in this new AGESA version for power delivery and memory training are exactly what your board needs. My advice is to clear your CMOS after the update and let the board do a fresh memory training because since I switched to this version I have not had a single cold boot issue or hang. It is definitely the best and most mature BIOS for our board right now and it should clear up those issues for you.
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This comment made me think they nailed the PCI-E bug in the march 20th BIOS update. I just flashed my B850 and now I have the same issue as Sko-Induktor below. Shame on me for not hooking up an LLM to this thread already.
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Testing with new A95 BIOS. It'll take 10–20 cold boots to see if the cold boot/PCIe bug occurs, but one thing was weird: PCIe Gen5 simply wasn't possible to use. Whether PCIE_E1 is set to Auto or forced to Gen5 (32 GT/s), it stays at Gen4 (16.0 GT/s).

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I then restored the default settings in the BIOS, F10 + Reboot = PCIe Gen5 worked. Then manually set all settings such RAM timings, fan curves, UV etc. again (no profile loaded), exact same settings as before. PCIe switching with Gen5 still worked.

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Gaming/ Render load:
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Hopefully, the new A95 BIOS will fix the cold boot/PCIe bug. We'll see.
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2mm3wau0154502dc said:
This comment made me think they nailed the PCI-E bug in the march 20th BIOS update. I just flashed my B850 and now I have the same issue as Sko-Induktor below. Shame on me for not hooking up an LLM to this thread already.
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If you experience issues with the latest BIOS, just revert bac to the one that worked best for you.
 
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Bios 7E49v1A95 really not stable for me(trouble maker for me) can cause error 0d, especially when I turn on [L3 DFLL Stretch Mode, Relock Only with DFI PPT(on memory setting)].
I dont know idea how to resolve error 0d, or maybe I installed memory Klevv 128mb (DDR5-6400[KD5BGUA80-64A320J] 4x32mb four ranks) .
Right now I'm stable on A80 whatever setting in BIOS I enabled, my computer still stable with KLEVV 128mb(DDR5-6400[KD5BGUA80-64A320J] 4x32mb four ranks).
 
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