MPG X870E CARBON WIFI Beta BIOS

Same here a few strange crashes at my usual speed, also poor benches performance : I reverted to A25 , last really stable firmware with good performance.(A23 was faster but causing boot loop with usb stick plugged in)
Also I'm not sure what is wrong with the PCIe stuck at 1.1 speed, but I do think it 's only when idle : below a picture of gpu-z , on the left the gpu is idle and on the right it's benching :
Do note , that you don't need A26 or + Bios to get PCIe @5.0

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I was not on idle when I was stuck on 1.1 or 2.0 (see my screenshot) and Spread Spectrum enabled is OK form me since 4 days.
 
I was not on idle when I was stuck on 1.1 or 2.0 (see my screenshot) and Spread Spectrum enabled is OK form me since 4 days.
It's really interesting that Spread Spectrum has any impact on the PCIe slot speed at all. It's supposed to only lower your clock slightly to improve performance where there's a lot of EMI.
 
Seem to be getting more crashes on A27 at same settings as before, lots of PFN list.
It happened to me too. With version A26 I had some stability, but with version A27 everything went wrong. Every time new features are made available, it ends up causing instability. I noticed that in version A27 a place was created to define the validity in the Memory Context Restore option. So far I've had to change the vcore from auto to manual and add an offset of +0.03 to make it more stable, but I'm still testing. My computer doesn't blue screen, it just freezes.
 
I was not on idle when I was stuck on 1.1 or 2.0 (see my screenshot) and Spread Spectrum enabled is OK form me since 4 days.
All right, that is strange because I have disabled spread spectrum on my board ( better overclocking capabilities with it disabled ) and can't reproduce the problem, this board has a mind of its own :confused:
 
It happened to me too. With version A26 I had some stability, but with version A27 everything went wrong. Every time new features are made available, it ends up causing instability. I noticed that in version A27 a place was created to define the validity in the Memory Context Restore option. So far I've had to change the vcore from auto to manual and add an offset of +0.03 to make it more stable, but I'm still testing. My computer doesn't blue screen, it just freezes.
Any config are stable. I lost.
 
It happened to me too. With version A26 I had some stability, but with version A27 everything went wrong. Every time new features are made available, it ends up causing instability. I noticed that in version A27 a place was created to define the validity in the Memory Context Restore option. So far I've had to change the vcore from auto to manual and add an offset of +0.03 to make it more stable, but I'm still testing. My computer doesn't blue screen, it just freezes.
I'm having a lot of freezes too... even once in BIOS right after booting once to Windows in default settings, right after upgrading to A27, then was configuring it for testing overclock settings when it froze solid right on the BIOS screen.
This is getting somewhat ridiculous.
Edit MARCH 7: Reverted back to A26 but was having similar problems and lockups, and nothing could get to stable using previous A26 settings. Went to do a full BIOS reset from the switch on the back, and realized I hadn't done so with A27. So, upgraded again, blew away the BIOS with the full BIOS reset switch, and then set everything back in. Memory back to stable with my previous settings, trying PBO at -20 for stability tests right now with the tightened memory settings. Will report back with how it goes, but will take most of the night to give the settings a FULL test. Once the 2 hour test is done with full CPU+RAM Extreme/AVX512/Steady load, I'll try it at -25.
Observed the new MCR settings. Not entirely clear what the message is for, alerts that it'll come after the time expires? Or that it'll countdown before doing so?
Will try with Spread Spectrum disabled next, and possibly bump up the core clock to 101 since the temps are still VERY nicely low. I noticed that the vcore "Auto" voltage setting is 1.14 whereas in A26 it was 1.11 when set to auto. Suspect they tipped it up a bit to manage the folks seeing far undervolting vcore values.
Unfortunately, SSD in M2_1 still seems to be reading under what it should be at 1.1 million IOPS. Write benchmarks are faster at 1.5 million IOPS... but M2_3 seems to be almost normal speeds now, considering the slight penalty going through the chipset.
 
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I never imagined I would get such a problematic motherboard, hopefully the problems will be fixed soon. I realise my video card is quite old now, but is it still normal for the PCI slot to run at 8X speed? I am using 2 NVME by the way. I guess that has something to do with it.
 

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I never imagined I would get such a problematic motherboard, hopefully the problems will be fixed soon. I realise my video card is quite old now, but is it still normal for the PCI slot to run at 8X speed? I am using 2 NVME by the way. I guess that has something to do with it.
where did you install the NVMEs? Watch the video below
 
where did you install the NVMEs? Watch the video below

Now I watched it more carefully again and realised that I shouldn't have installed NVME in the M.2_2 slot, it should be in the M.2_3 slot. I think (so I guess) it's my mistake. Thank you for the video by the way.
 
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1A27 --> same suttering mess on the evening Boot with stucked PCI express speed :
I installed version 27 on the day it was released for download. I have no issues with stuttering, nor do I have any problems with my GPU.
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will work with this BIOS version and the X870E Carbon WIFI motherboard, I can confirm that it works flawlessly. I've had this RAM since yesterday and have no issues.
 
I also sometimes have stuttering issues after a cold boot.
Windows starts, and the mouse is already lagging. I've never monitored the PCIe speed before, that is the cause?

I'm currently using a 2080 Ti on this board.
After a restart, the issue disappears immediately.

Which BIOS version does not have this problem? I'm currently on 7E49v1A1A.
 
I also sometimes have stuttering issues after a cold boot.
Windows starts, and the mouse is already lagging. I've never monitored the PCIe speed before, that is the cause?

I'm currently using a 2080 Ti on this board.
After a restart, the issue disappears immediately.

Which BIOS version does not have this problem? I'm currently on 7E49v1A1A.
Try the latest one. It's been good to me, no problems at all.
Update the bios, do a full clear cmos, set your settings and test it
 
A27? I saw ppl reporting not getting full speed on NVME. Didn't test mine yet. I'll check that out later
To be clear, the speed issues aren't related to regression to lower PCIe versions: they're running at fill PCIe v4 (or 5, I assume, but I don't have any PCIe v5 drives). But the Samsung 990 pro runs slower than it should in Slot M2_1, and reads at 1.1 million IOPS and should be reading around 1.5 million. Slot M2_3 reads them at expected speeds.
This issue has persisted since A23, I believe, and had its proper speed on A21. A24 was better, and A25/A26/A27 have been the same. Better than A23, but slower than they should be for a top-tier drive and motherboard.
That being said, those with slightly slower rated drives in random reads may not notice the difference it's still very fast.
 
To be clear, the speed issues aren't related to regression to lower PCIe versions: they're running at fill PCIe v4 (or 5, I assume, but I don't have any PCIe v5 drives). But the Samsung 990 pro runs slower than it should in Slot M2_1, and reads at 1.1 million IOPS and should be reading around 1.5 million. Slot M2_3 reads them at expected speeds.
This issue has persisted since A23, I believe, and had its proper speed on A21. A24 was better, and A25/A26/A27 have been the same. Better than A23, but slower than they should be for a top-tier drive and motherboard.
That being said, those with slightly slower rated drives in random reads may not notice the difference it's still very fast.
Thanks for clarifying. I have the same NVME but didn't test the speed. How do you do this test so I can replicate here? I have 2 4tb
 
I also sometimes have stuttering issues after a cold boot.
Windows starts, and the mouse is already lagging. I've never monitored the PCIe speed before, that is the cause?

I'm currently using a 2080 Ti on this board.
After a restart, the issue disappears immediately.

Which BIOS version does not have this problem? I'm currently on 7E49v1A1A.
If you haven't updated since you got the board, it's likely buggy or your processor isn't fully supported, and any version will be better. Make sure you do a full BIOS clear after updating using the button on the back for 15+ seconds. When I was testing and forgot that on one of my initial boots of A26, the system took forever to boot and was super slow and baggy. Come to find that the processor itself was stuck at .3 GHz (327 Mhz). Since the full BIOS clear, it hasn't happened.
If you do the clear and it gets stuck on 0d at boot, clear it again as it still had something in there.
 
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Thanks for clarifying. I have the same NVME but didn't test the speed. How do you do this test so I can replicate here? I have 2 4tb
I have two 4Tb 990 Pros myself. Easiest is to use the Samsung Magician program with the built-in performance metric. You'll see different speeds on both drives and they should be roughly the same.
Drives through the chipset (M2_3 and M2_4) suffer a slight performance impact and you'll see that in the sequential speeds being around 7100Mb/sec or so, but M2_1 and M2_2 are directly connected to the processor and should get full speed.
The strange thing is that I am seeing the drive in M2_1 get FASTER write speeds than read, which is.. bonkers. Unless the write cache isn't actually filling on the performance test, but in that case I should see the same trend on M2_3, but those speeds are as expected.
This is the same issue across both of my MSI x870e carbon wifi boards, both equipped with 2x Samsung 990 Pro drives in Slots M2_1 and M2_3, so it's not just a busted drive or single board.
You can also use CrystalDiskInfo, but that's a little more difficult to get configured specifically for SSDs. It can give more objective info than a vendor program, but comparing two of the same vendors drives to each other, the vendor's testing tool is sufficient.
 
A27? I saw ppl reporting not getting full speed on NVME. Didn't test mine yet. I'll check that out later
Yes, version A27. The processor speed was reduced. After 6 hours of continuous use, I turned off the computer, rested for 2 hours, turned it on again and it froze when browsing the internet again.
 
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