MSI Center makes CPU 100% load

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I don't know what in the McF#ckery is going on, but I turned on my PC today, and MSI License Agreement pops up, have to read, click check mark in box and agreed. Well, I had to reinstall the whole MSI software again (Version 13 wtf :oops:), so it would appear, I don't want to bore you with the details, but this is how I set it up...>>> Appears to be working again, and notice on the "Hardware Monitoring" (picture 17, and 20) that the Fan is Present again on the Right Column, it was there before, disappeared, and now has reappeared, now at the top of the list, not at the bottom... curious...hmmmmm :unsure: Hope it stays like this and that I don't have any surprise reboots. I am going to leave everything as it was. I haven't changed anything since I originally set this PC up a Year ago with MSI Center, I forget the version number... 🤞
Yep Had the same and have reported the problem took three reboots for it to work as it should

MSI are aware of its borky install stuff up
 
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Ok, I don't mean to keep beating this animal up like this, but I just want to understand things. MSI Center works, it stops working, it works, it stops working. My PC. it turns on, and it turns off, it turns on, and it turns off. MY CPU Fan turns on, it turns off, it turns on, it turns off. I go into MSI Center turn on manual fan 50%, I go to Customize Settings Fan Tune goes back to my original fan tune, exit MSI Center, Fan turns off again.

I turned on my PC this morning before it finished booting, it booted itself a second time. I did some work online, turned off PC. Came home this afternoon, turned on my PC and again, it booted itself twice with Fan running at 50% Manual setting. I went back into MSI Center and did another Fan Tune, seemed like everything was back to normal. and now I see my Fan is off again as I sit here typing this out.

I will stop taking screen shots of this. Pics 21-30 was from this mornings event and Pics 31-46 were just taken a short while ago.
 

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When you go to Manual fan control 50% do not go back to the Smart fan window but click on the red X instead

Fan Tune is a bad idea as it sets way too low for some fans if fans are on DC in Bios it will cause that problem or if fans don't do less than 30% load
I know this was Fixed for The Pump Setting due to the fact it was turning Off Water pumps if used and this setting was increased to avoid that problem.

Adjust the Curver your self don't use fan tune I would set lowes speed at 25%

I will have a look at the Fan Tune and see if I can replicate your problem

I only use the MSI Fan control for testing as I prefer for BIOS to Set fan speeds so have Software Control for Fan and CPU Off.
 

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This is waht Fan tune gives me

As you can see not teh 20% but starting at 25% @0c and then increasing to 40% @45c

I am Using Be-Quiet 140mm PWM Fans all around for Cooler and case

If you set your Fan curve to match the ones shown here I do not think you will get the same problems just avoid Fan Tune for now

Also, can you check in bios that fans are set to PWM and not DC or Auto




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OK, speaking about my problem. I updated the MSI Center. And now I've got lower CPU frequencies in the "Balanced" profile than usual. Actually the "balanced" frequencies have become the same as the "silent" ones - 4000+ MHz instead of 5300 in boost. I started stress testing in AIDA and saw that the TPD is fixed at 120+ Watts. With the previous MSI Center this value was higher and the frequencies were more than 5000. Moreover in my BIOS settings there is no limit for TPD set. So it is the MSI Center that limits it. And the last thing - if I choose the "Extreme" user scenario in the MSI Center now it makes my PC go up to 97 degrees and start throttle. This never happened before. I don't know what is happening with the MSI Center but it really is faulty.
 

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This is waht Fan tune gives me

As you can see not teh 20% but starting at 25% @0c and then increasing to 40% @45c

I am Using Be-Quiet 140mm PWM Fans all around for Cooler and case

If you set your Fan curve to match the ones shown here I do not think you will get the same problems just avoid Fan Tune for now

Also, can you check in bios that fans are set to PWM and not DC or Auto




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Ok, I will look into this and see if I can replicate your situation and if it solves my issues with the fan and pc going on and off and changing all the time. Thank you for the information.
 
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OK, speaking about my problem. I updated the MSI Center. And now I've got lower CPU frequencies in the "Balanced" profile than usual. Actually the "balanced" frequencies have become the same as the "silent" ones - 4000+ MHz instead of 5300 in boost. I started stress testing in AIDA and saw that the TPD is fixed at 120+ Watts. With the previous MSI Center this value was higher and the frequencies were more than 5000. Moreover in my BIOS settings there is no limit for TPD set. So it is the MSI Center that limits it. And the last thing - if I choose the "Extreme" user scenario in the MSI Center now it makes my PC go up to 97 degrees and start throttle. This never happened before. I don't know what is happening with the MSI Center but it really is faulty.
Jesus, I don't get it , MSI can built a World Record Breaking Award Winning MOBO, but can't design software to control it? :rolleyes:
 
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