MSI Coreliquid S280 - constant boot loop after LED FW update through MSI Center

[b.metzne150f02d7]

Hi, I hope you can help me with my issue.

I also have an issue after the LED FW update through MSI Center Live update, but in my case it is a Coreliquid S280 and the issue is a little different than the one's for the K-Series AIO's I found in the forum with the link below: https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?...een-doesnt-work-after-software-update.368985/

Since the Firmware update was applied a few hours ago (update from 003 to 004, if I remember correctly), the S280 is stuck in a constant reboot cycle. After Powering on the PC the S280 is turning on the screen, pump and Fan's, show the MSI Logo (different logo as before the update) and then shuts down immediatly. It is then turning back on and does the same again. This continues for about 15-30 times. After a while after Windows is up, it finally is able to finish its boot cycle and then works again till the PC is powered off and on again. Still very annoying and supposely not very good for the hardware to constantly go on and off for that long. I wonder why the LED FW update, offered though the MSI Center created this issue and how to fix it? I tried to reinstall MSI Center, deinstalled the Coreliquid from the System, detached the Sata Power cable, nothing works.

I also opened a ticket with the MSI Support recently, but did not hear back from them by now. I wondered if you can help me with that issue? I'm in a little time crunch here as I still could return the S280 to the dealer till Tuesday. As I like the S280, I would rather fix it than return it. The LED FW of the Mainboard was also updated through MSI Center from Version 004 to 007, but that seems to work as it should.

My System Specs: MSI X570s Carbon (latest BIOS from March 2022), AMD 5900x, Windows 10 21H2

Please let me know if you need something else and thank you in advance, I hope that Svet from the other Thread might also be able to assist my with my problem.

 

[b.metzne150f02d7]

I have figured out in the mean time what the problem is (self-caused in a certain way) and wanted to let you know.

Because of the limitations in the MSI Center for the custom fan cuve (minimum of 70% fan speed at 80C CPU Temp, which is even way above the setting for the SIlent mode preset, no ramp up- or ramp down time,...)) I detached the Fans from the S280 and plugged them to the mainboard Fan Header directly. This worked without any issues for the past weeks. Since the LED FW update this morning, it seems that there is now some kind of Fan check implemented after a cold start. At least it is constantly booting up till the MSI Logo, then restarts (I assume because it could not find the fan's) and so on, but without any failure message. This only stops after it has booted to windows and the MSI Center takes over. With the previous version of the LED FW, it worked without any issues with the Fan connected to the board.

When I reconnected the Fan's it starts as it is supposed to do. If I connect them back to the Mainboard, it shows the restart behaviour again. This is a bummer, I wonder if there is any way to get back to the previous version of the LED Firmware? I now have to deal again with the unneccesary limitation of the custom fan curve, which I assume can not be changed or altered, right?

I still wanted to let you know as I guess is not very uncommon to connect the fans straight to the mainboard, so someone might run into the same problem.
If you have any suggestions (downgrade LED FW, change minimum settings for custom fan curve), please let me know.

I needed to raise the curve to about 40% at 60C for more airflow wihile gaming (which I can do with the custom curve) and also 50% only at around 85-86C (which is not allowed). This worked perfeclty with the board fan header, now I have that huge jump in fan speed after hitting 80C, which happens occasionally but not very often.

 

[teletubby_po]

i believe the fan curve was designed to prevent the CPU from overheat. why would you want to set fan curve 50% when it's 80C?

 

[jy.crepia15e002f2]

Hi here

seems I have same issue on a S280 Core liquid AIO.
W11 Latest build with latest updates,
Intel Core I9 12900k / MSI z670A Pro

Each time I bootup my PC, the watercooling loops in an infinite reboot that can takes a while before loading (the last duration was close to 5mins).
I used the firmware update as noticed on the MSI center and since then I get this behavior.

It's just frustrating paying for such an expensive product and have to deal with issues like this.
In some kind of logic (imo) MSI should quickly find a solution or refund us

 

[Alan J T]

Hi here

seems I have same issue on a S280 Core liquid AIO.
W11 Latest build with latest updates,
Intel Core I9 12900k / MSI z670A Pro

Each time I bootup my PC, the watercooling loops in an infinite reboot that can takes a while before loading (the last duration was close to 5mins).
I used the firmware update as noticed on the MSI center and since then I get this behavior.

It's just frustrating paying for such an expensive product and have to deal with issues like this.
In some kind of logic (imo) MSI should quickly find a solution or refund us

Forum Admin @Svet generally has a fix for this
He should reply sooner or later

 

[teletubby_po]

Hi here

seems I have same issue on a S280 Core liquid AIO.
W11 Latest build with latest updates,
Intel Core I9 12900k / MSI z670A Pro

Each time I bootup my PC, the watercooling loops in an infinite reboot that can takes a while before loading (the last duration was close to 5mins).
I used the firmware update as noticed on the MSI center and since then I get this behavior.

It's just frustrating paying for such an expensive product and have to deal with issues like this.
In some kind of logic (imo) MSI should quickly find a solution or refund us

are you also connecting the radiator fans to the motherboard? does it still happen when you connect them to the pump header, and what is your current firmware version?