MSI GeForce RTX 3080 GAMING X TRIO

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Hello

I intend to buy this card. But before i Do, I am hesitating with other cards. And I need this question answered to know if I buy the MSI or not.

Can you control the fan rotation independently on the GPU card.
Other cards have 2 fans going one way, and one fan rotating the other way to minimize air turbulence.
But MSI website does not give a hint on that option for their own cards.

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based on previous experience, you can control fan RPM separately (trio fan design 2 bigger fan as 1 and the smaller one) but you cannot control the way they spin clockwise or counterclockwise.
 

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Can you control the fan rotation independently on the GPU card.
Other cards have 2 fans going one way, and one fan rotating the other way to minimize air turbulence.
But MSI website does not give a hint on that option for their own cards.
typically identical fans do not have separate fan control
[this is a poor solution, that was done some series in the past and wasn't good decision, but only creates issues.]
 
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lebdiaboli163302f5

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I am not sure if this option is with the new RTX 3080 by default.
Since Zotac have it:
and Aorus alternate fan:

Msi dont talk about it, and i am interested in the new MSI gaming trio 3080 with the graphene plate (which has better thermal qualities than metal).
By the way, the MSI 3090 has metal, not graphene (not sure why)
 

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Msi dont talk about it, and i am interested in the new MSI gaming trio 3080 with the graphene plate (which has better thermal qualities than metal).
By the way, the MSI 3090 has metal, not graphene (not sure why)
When I look at 3090 cards, all I see is TBD (all manufacturers; except those models who intend to use reference clocks). I mean, the weights of MSI's 3090 models are set to TBD, which directly indicates the current photos are just promotional material and have no connection whatsoever to the product that will be actually sold.
I highly advise you to wait until the card specs are published, at least, and then start making comparisons.
 

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Just got the MSI 3080 Gaming X Trio and the reason this uses a "Graphene" backplate but the 3090 uses metal, is that the backplate a) appears to be graphene-coated plastic and b) has more give in it - I've got the card and the support bracket installed, and there is noticeable sag. On the last point there are YouTube videos out there showing obvious flex in the backplate.

I had an MSI 2080 Gaming X Trio before this and I'd have to say that the metal backplate the 2080 used was much superior to the 3080's backplate. The LEDs in the 3080 also seem to be fewer in number than the 2080 uses, which gives a less "fluid" effect - this is unexpected because the resulting "bumpy" appearance of the LED bar bears no resemblance to the marketing material images.

I love the performance the MSI Gaming X Trio 3080 gives me, and it's quiet as hell as well, but I'd have to say that the quality of the backplate and LED components seems to have dropped since the 2080, and the marketing seems to be a touch dishonest.

MSI - This could be an amazing card if you fixed these issues - are you going to offer a metal backplate and improved LEDs? This could be an amazing card if you did...

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the easiest solution is to add a support stick to the card, can you take a picture of the condition and show it here?
 

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To be honest, I was hoping the hardware provided with the card could support it.

Please see the attached image. You can see the sag clearly, particularly when looking at the gap between the 3080 and the two towers of the Noctua nh-d15 heatsink. Looking at the top of the support bracket and the bottom of the Fractal Define R6 case also shows it.

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One issue i see with that pic is the so called rubber pads are not touching the card at all, which is supposed to prevent the sag from happening.

That said if you untighten the screws so the bar is lowered at the point they screw in, get it so the pads are in place touching the card then re-tighten them. It should resolve that issue
 

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you gonna admit the card is way too heavy and i wouldn't call it a "hardware problem", i mean i even use support stick for my 1060 and it only costs you couple bucks.
 

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To be honest, I was hoping the hardware provided with the card could support it.

Please see the attached image. You can see the sag clearly, particularly when looking at the gap between the 3080 and the two towers of the Noctua nh-d15 heatsink. Looking at the top of the support bracket and the bottom of the Fractal Define R6 case also shows it.

Stu

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Interesting, yes I can also notice slight sag towards right on your photo.
Q. Which motherboard do you have? is the PCI-E slot bit warn?
Also I'd suggest reinstalling the graphics card, make sure two screws(especially the top one) are on tight, also try to make sure that the card isn't sagging when you are installing the two screws.
Because obviously if you install the card slightly sagged then even the provided bracket(to prevent sagging) isn't gonna help much.

I've used MSI RTX2080S Gaming X, MSI RTX2080Ti Gaming X/Z (all 3 cards are around the same size and weight), but I haven't noticed any sagging, and I didn't bother using the provided bracket.
I still have MSI RTX2080Ti Gaming Z atm so I just checked again and my card isn't sagging. My motherboard is MSI Z490 Gaming Carbon.
 

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Thanks for the replies guys, appreciated.
Already tried re-installing the card with various tightening of different screws and doesn't seem to make a difference. The photo doesn't show it clearly, but the pad is actually making contact with the GPU (I've just double checked), so that isn't an issue. Mobo is a Gigabyte Aorus Master Z390 and is in excellent condition (previous MSI 2080 Trio was the only card I used, so there wasn't much installation / removal on the PCIe slot).
As I said above I didn't have a sagging issue with the previous MSI 2080 Trio and as the cards are of a similar weight I'm inclined to think that since the only difference is the old card had a metal backplate, and the new one has a "graphene" coated plastic backplate, that may be a contributing factor.
Bottom-line though is that I'm gonna need to put in a GPU jack. Cheap solution but it'll get the job done.
Still wish MSI had stuck with the metal backplate though - a few online reviews are also calling out the flex of the new backplate, so I may not be alone with this issue.
First-world problem though. :)
 

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To be honest, I was hoping the hardware provided with the card could support it.

Please see the attached image. You can see the sag clearly, particularly when looking at the gap between the 3080 and the two towers of the Noctua nh-d15 heatsink. Looking at the top of the support bracket and the bottom of the Fractal Define R6 case also shows it.

Stu

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I got the same card and it isn't sagging. You might want to try installing it with the case on it's side so it's straight. I pull up the support before tightening. Looking at your picture it looks like the support bar isn't centered as well looking at the holes on the left side. If you install it on it's side then things will be straight when you tighten. :)

EDIT : I just remembered, gonna try and describe it.. it looks like your bracket is pushed up too much. I moved it down a bit and then only the right side I pushed up. When you push the support all the way up it kinda sags like that. And do it while the PC is on it's side so you can push against the GPU easier.

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stusome14f902cb

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Thanks for your help cedri155b02d9, I'll try and reseat it again at the weekend. I did have the case on it's side initially, but I'm going to install with the case upside down this time to encourage the card and bracket into as upward angle as possible . It's worth a try.
I'm also thinking of just putting a support stick (or some sort of supporting cable from the top of the case) in anyway to be on the safe side. I don't move the PC often, but that amount of weight on a PCI slot does worry me a bit.
I miss the days of my Silverstone FT-02 case where the GPU hung vertically in the case - no sagging to worry about then. :)
 

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No problem! I really think you can get it to straighten up. That's a bigass metal frame with 3 big screws it should be able to hold up a monitor 🤣
 

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Thanks for your help cedri155b02d9, I'll try and reseat it again at the weekend. I did have the case on it's side initially, but I'm going to install with the case upside down this time to encourage the card and bracket into as upward angle as possible . It's worth a try.
I'm also thinking of just putting a support stick (or some sort of supporting cable from the top of the case) in anyway to be on the safe side. I don't move the PC often, but that amount of weight on a PCI slot does worry me a bit.
I miss the days of my Silverstone FT-02 case where the GPU hung vertically in the case - no sagging to worry about then. :)
I got a DEEPCOOL Graphic Card Holder A-RGB for practically nothing that I'm inclined to try. I seated mine with the case laying side-down but it still feels like it doesn't do much.
 
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