MSI MAG B660M Mortar WIFI+i7 13700k - greatly overstated voltage and heat dissipation

[sanctus]

I can't use older bios which doesn't have 13Gen support officially.... So, wait for new version which was mentioned by Alan or just live with current settings. In real life usage I have TDP not more than ~180w and temerature lower than 80C.

 

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I can't use older bios which doesn't have 13Gen support officially.... So, wait for new version which was mentioned by Alan or just live with current settings. In real life usage I have TDP not more than ~180w and temerature lower than 80C.

This version supports the 13th generation and is the earliest bios

 

[sanctus]

This version supports the 13th generation and is the earliest bios

Ok, thx. May be I will try this so. But I'm not a big fan of idea being sticked to one outdated version of BIOS

 

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Ok, thx. May be I will try this so. But I'm not a big fan of idea being sticked to one outdated version of BIOS

Don't talk about loyalty with the brand, we are consumers, if you want to solve this problem you can only replace Z690.z790 now or wait for ThrottleStop to update 13th generation CPU support, or use my method.

 

[Alan J T]

Like I said almost every time Venders find a bypass for doing it Intell roll out a bios update to block it venders be trying and intell keeps blocking

 

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Like I said almost every time Venders find a bypass for doing it Intell roll out a bios update to block it venders be trying and intell keeps blocking

Well, we'll just have to wait for another software to lower the voltage.

 

[sanctus]

ThrottleStop 9.5.1 works correctly on 13th Gen but it cannot be used to control the voltage if you have a B660 chipset. -info from developer. So, we have only few options at the moment - rollback to older bios or buy another one MB with Z chipset

 

[sanctus]

Like I said almost every time Venders find a bypass for doing it Intell roll out a bios update to block it venders be trying and intell keeps blocking

What the reason to block UV and try to reduce crazy 300w CPU consumption? There's no sense at all from my point of view....

 

[Alan J T]

What the reason to block UV and try to reduce crazy 300w CPU consumption? There's no sense at all from my point of view....

That you would need to ask Intel

 

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That you would need to ask Intel

Asus Performance Enhancement 3.0 Maybe MSI will update something like that. Now the temperature of B660 is too high. I can't use the latest bios, because once I use the latest bios, the temperature will be 99° immediately. I'm using ND-D15, and the difference between water cooling and it is not much.

 

[plutomate]

Is there any specific thread that is using offset on ASUS board without any performance penalty on latest BIOS? just wondering.

 

[Alan J T]

Asus Performance Enhancement 3.0 Maybe MSI will update something like that. Now the temperature of B660 is too high. I can't use the latest bios, because once I use the latest bios, the temperature will be 99° immediately. I'm using ND-D15, and the difference between water cooling and it is not much.

So locking the CPU to a max of 90c will reduce temps by 10c and reduce performance Overall
Funny how limiting a CPU that is hitting 100c to 90c reduces Temp by 10c
Who'd have figured that would happen

 

[Alan J T]

I know I don't use Intel much but can you not just set a limit in the BIOS of 90c
Kind of like AMD has in PBO settings

I'm pretty sure I have the option in BIOS of setting a Thermal target on the Intel devices I do have.

 

[sanctus]

BTW, does anybody know if MSI MAG Z690M Mortar WIFI has IA CEP disble functionality in BIOS? Almost ready to change my current MB and there's only 2 possible options at the market - MSI MAG B660M Mortar WIFI or ASUS ROG Strix Z690-G Gaming WiFi. I need mATX format, BT&Wi-Fi and optical SPDIF.

 

[Alan J T]

BTW, does anybody know if MSI MAG Z690M Mortar WIFI has IA CEP disble functionality in BIOS? Almost ready to change my current MB and there's only 2 possible options at the market - MSI MAG B660M Mortar WIFI or ASUS ROG Strix Z690-G Gaming WiFi. I need mATX format, BT&Wi-Fi and optical SPDIF.

Hi did some digging on Youtube and found a Video explaining but it is with an Engineering sample and not in English I think it is mandarin

SO results are not guaranteed but should be close to what you get with Retail CPU

the text will explain what CPU should work with Negative Offset with the Board you mentioned
So watch from the time stamp 11:50

Just set Translate to Auto in Setting and select your language

 

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Hi did some digging on Youtube and found a Video explaining but it is with an Engineering sample and not in English I think it is mandarin

SO results are not guaranteed but should be close to what you get with Retail CPU

the text will explain what CPU should work with Negative Offset with the Board you mentioned
So watch from the time stamp 11:50

Just set Translate to Auto in Setting and select your language
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I watched the latest video posted by handsome man Lin, I have sold my B660 and bought 690. I want my CPU to work more consistently because I need to render for a long time

 

[Alan J T]

I watched the latest video posted by handsome man Lin, I have sold my B660 and bought 690. I want my CPU to work more consistently because I need to render for a long time

Having this Info up front and provided by Intel sure would make life easier, But I grabbed some screenshots but not sure if I can post without Permission as it is Internal MSI stuff.
So at least I will be able to check what will work now with a negative Offset.

 

[sanctus]

I have sold my B660 and bought 690. I want my CPU to work more consistently because I need to render for a long time

If I can ask which MB do you have now? Does it have IA CEP disabling functionality or it works good even without this?

the text will explain what CPU should work with Negative Offset with the Board you mentioned
So watch from the time stamp 11:50
Just set Translate to Auto in Setting and select your language

Thanks a lot for this video - really very informative

 

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If I can ask which MB do you have now? Does it have IA CEP disabling functionality or it works good even without this?


Thanks a lot for this video - really very informative

The z690 series is OK. I recommend msi z690-a

 

[sanctus]

The z690 series is OK. I recommend msi z690-a

I need embedded WiFi\BT and optical SPDIF so MSI MAG Z690M Mortar WIFI only one possible option from MSI.
Do you disable IA CEP in BIOS or it works good even without it?