MSI MAG X670E is not accepting anything above 4800Mhz . It is not what I expected.

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I could have made some pictures in between but I did not know that would be needed.
But my mb was running at 6000Mhz on default cpu settings and when trying it out, there was a huuge stutter each 5secs even in windows.

I investigated, I have read stuff on here, and it is very confusing to me how to get my performance.
I do not expect 6000mhz, its the max in perfect conditions.
But maxing out on 4800Mhz and cant even use the timings from EXPO is a bit of a joke to me.
Did I win the lottery?

This is just running at default now because my hair is gone already from trying something....
Running this Corsair ram kit. CMK32GX5M2B6000Z30 https://www.corsair.com/eu/en/p/mem...cl30-amd-expo-memory-black-cmk32gx5m2b6000z30

Motherboard is flashed at LTS. (I think this improved the default ram timings at least? )

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bertduyck said:
Motherboard is flashed at LTS. (I think this improved the default ram timings at least? )
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LTS, as in, long-term support? For BIOS versions, the only differentiation is stable vs. beta. Since the beta versions talk of improved memory support, I would try with the latest beta.
 
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I do have a MSI x670e Tomahawk that runs the RAM 2x Kingston KF560C30-16 at 6000 Mhz without any issue.
The EXPO profile is in use.
The processor is a Ryzen 9700x.
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fatedust said:
If the latest BIOS 7E12v1K7 does not help, can you provide the RAM sticker like below?
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Latest bios does not help.
I have one game called Assetta corsa competizione I always use as my benchmark.
default 4800mhz works.
Anything above this is a completely unplayable.
FPS goes from 120 to minus 60 back up to 120 and so on. Every second.

This is my ram and how it has been placed.
Let me know if more info is needed.
 

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That RAM kit is not on the QVL list for that board. You might be able to get it to run at a higher speed, but not with EXPO and probably not with raising voltages.
 
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chri15c402e0 said:
That RAM kit is not on the QVL list for that board. You might be able to get it to run at a higher speed, but not with EXPO and probably not with raising voltages.
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Aha, that explains. I never tought of looking that up.
Not a good time to replace the ram also. I guess I better keep it at 4800 just then.
 
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I am running a similar 64gb corsair ram set as yours and spent a ton of time trying to get expo to work with the X670E Tomahawk, then switched to X870 Tomahawk and 9950X3D with the same ram and it was the same issue. I found this This Post and manually entered the same settings into the bios and it runs good at 6000 no problem.
 
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chri15c402e0 said:
I am running a similar 64gb corsair ram set as yours and spent a ton of time trying to get expo to work with the X670E Tomahawk, then switched to X870 Tomahawk and 9950X3D with the same ram and it was the same issue. I found this This Post and manually entered the same settings into the bios and it runs good at 6000 no problem.
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I gave it a try, to be honest. went to wild on it directly to 6000 most likely but it did not even past the bios post testing.
I have let it go for more then an hour and it still wasn't booted.
Cleared CMOS and back to 4800Mhz sadly.
I don't even know if i loose a lot doing that. Note, I play simracing games on triple 2K screens so huge resolution gaming.
 
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bertduyck said:
I gave it a try, to be honest. went to wild on it directly to 6000 most likely but it did not even past the bios post testing.
I have let it go for more then an hour and it still wasn't booted.
Cleared CMOS and back to 4800Mhz sadly.
I don't even know if i loose a lot doing that. Note, I play simracing games on triple 2K screens so huge resolution gaming.
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Hi enthusiasts, EXPO profiles alone are not working Default from Bios, just one click it will switch your first 5 primaries fabric timings only, in first Overclocking Main page Dram settings only, and leaves alone to AUTO all the rest of them, also in second Advanced Dram config Bios section aswell, so will you guys why do you not apply them manually from the early start debut memory timings setup, one by one, and leave alone EXPO OFF=Standard, don't need it.
Keep in mind, all timings they need properly inserted in both DDR Bios sections, Main Dram section and second Advanced / AMD Overclocking/ DDR Timings, pretty sure your Z30 sticks can do better 8000mhz GearOFF at least, in 2:1 scenario, uclk=mclk/2 if you like ;)
It's almost like same timings Profile just works with tossed CORSAIR old bin 7800c36 in too, maybe CL36 with these same setup timings, RTTs & stuff might work for you, good luck!
 

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danvisinic153902d9 said:
Hi enthusiasts, EXPO profiles alone are not working Default from Bios, just one click it will switch your first 5 primaries fabric timings only, in first Overclocking Main page Dram settings only, and leaves alone to AUTO all the rest of them, also in second Advanced Dram config Bios section aswell, so will you guys why do you not apply them manually from the early start debut memory timings setup, one by one, and leave alone EXPO OFF=Standard, don't need it.
Keep in mind, all timings they need properly inserted in both DDR Bios sections, Main Dram section and second Advanced / AMD Overclocking/ DDR Timings, pretty sure your Z30 sticks can do better 8000mhz GearOFF at least, in 2:1 scenario, uclk=mclk/2 if you like ;)
It's almost like same timings Profile just works with tossed CORSAIR old bin 7800c36 in too, maybe CL36 with these same setup timings, RTTs & stuff might work for you, good luck!
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Do you mind sending me your bios changes. (pictures maybe)
Because I am reading your comment, you are hiping me up but nothing I can do yet.
I am sure I will mis 1, 2 or 100 settings I dont know but missing 1 setting is enough for it not too work.
So I wish I just had a simple screenshot of the bios from someone because also naming conventions are different etc.
It took me more then an hour yesterday waiting for just a post that never booted giving up after.

It is a big joke to me for it to be soo difficult for just having rams that work on the speed they say it does.
I think there is just a ridiculous little amount of people having their ram working as stated on the package.
Eg someone said QVL list and I know what that is indeed but just did not know how important that is.
But maybe I only have stupid people around me but if I take 20 friends having a gaming pc and ask them if they know what that is, they will never heard about that even.
I am a software developer so working with computers in general is ok for me but I never do anything in the bios so this is just an unknown field to me and I only do these timings because I have too.
But if certain fields are named different etc, I bump into a pandora box.


AND also, if I leave everything on default and do not touch the timings but put it on 6000Mhz, my pc is just a piece of [***CENSORED***] for gaming!
If I leave it on 4800Mhz it works good but I just dont have the full potential it said on paper. But I am not really convinced that setting the timings tight will make it work if does not even work with bad timings.....
 
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bertduyck said:
Do you mind sending me your bios changes. (pictures maybe)
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Well, idk if my Bios screenshots will help you, it's a too deep drive elitist Overclocker profile for your skills, maybe another time.
Also dualchipset "E" mobo's are not as suitable for ocing 8400+GearOFF memory versus single's x870 or latest 850 2dimm ones.
Better you start with your fabric 6000+CL30 GearEnabled setup, see what's going on, i suspect your issues are coming from these settings being Enabled, so be sure to check them all Disabled
Ez Mode Main Page: Expo Standard
Expo : Disabled
Memory Context Restore: Disabled
Power Down Enable: Disabled
I simulated your timings on my second MSI rig with Tomahawk, and the BIOS options should match your Carbon as well :
1. Overclocking
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Advanced Dram Configuration
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2. Advanced
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DDR Timings Configuration
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Take your time, memory training issues are tricky, i spend months of time consuming and hundreds reboots so far, it may not work from day1, maybe you need both subtimings SCL's 5 instead of 4 if too tight and so, also SVM Disabled & Fastboot, Hyper V and Core Isolation Disabled may help, good luck!
 
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citay said:
So you're saying, anything above the default profile of DDR5-4800 is making games almost unplayable?

Can you check with LatencyMon if it shows high system latencies at higher RAM speeds? https://www.resplendence.com/latencymon
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For some reason my powerplan was on balances instead of performance.
It made the msg disappear but tested in my game and fps still jumps around from 140 to 50fps on default 6000Mhz
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CONCLUSION (full default 4800Mhz)
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Your system seems to be having difficulty handling real-time audio and other tasks. You may experience drop outs, clicks or pops due to buffer underruns. One or more DPC routines that belong to a driver running in your system appear to be executing for too long. One problem may be related to power management, disable CPU throttling settings in Control Panel and BIOS setup. Check for BIOS updates.
LatencyMon has been analyzing your system for 0:02:02 (h:mm:ss) on all processors.


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SYSTEM INFORMATION
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Computer name: DUKE-GAMING2
OS version: Windows 11, 10.0, version 2009, build: 26100 (x64)
Hardware: MS-7E12, Micro-Star International Co., Ltd.
BIOS: 1.K7
CPU: AuthenticAMD AMD Ryzen 9 7950X 16-Core Processor
Logical processors: 32
Processor groups: 1
Processor group size: 32
RAM: 31849 MB total


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CPU SPEED
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Reported CPU speed (WMI): 4501 MHz
Reported CPU speed (registry): 450 MHz

Note: reported execution times may be calculated based on a fixed reported CPU speed. Disable variable speed settings like Intel Speed Step and AMD Cool N Quiet in the BIOS setup for more accurate results.


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MEASURED INTERRUPT TO USER PROCESS LATENCIES
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The interrupt to process latency reflects the measured interval that a usermode process needed to respond to a hardware request from the moment the interrupt service routine started execution. This includes the scheduling and execution of a DPC routine, the signaling of an event and the waking up of a usermode thread from an idle wait state in response to that event.

Highest measured interrupt to process latency (µs): 141,70
Average measured interrupt to process latency (µs): 12,154167

Highest measured interrupt to DPC latency (µs): 127,40
Average measured interrupt to DPC latency (µs): 2,772539


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REPORTED ISRs
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Interrupt service routines are routines installed by the OS and device drivers that execute in response to a hardware interrupt signal.

Highest ISR routine execution time (µs): 44,550
Driver with highest ISR routine execution time: HDAudBus.sys - High Definition Audio Bus Driver, Microsoft Corporation

Highest reported total ISR routine time (%): 0,000184
Driver with highest ISR total time: HDAudBus.sys - High Definition Audio Bus Driver, Microsoft Corporation

Total time spent in ISRs (%) 0,000353

ISR count (execution time <250 µs): 11808
ISR count (execution time 250-500 µs): 0
ISR count (execution time 500-1000 µs): 0
ISR count (execution time 1000-2000 µs): 0
ISR count (execution time 2000-4000 µs): 0
ISR count (execution time >=4000 µs): 0


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REPORTED DPCs
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DPC routines are part of the interrupt servicing dispatch mechanism and disable the possibility for a process to utilize the CPU while it is interrupted until the DPC has finished execution.

Highest DPC routine execution time (µs): 1147,440
Driver with highest DPC routine execution time: nvlddmkm.sys - NVIDIA Windows Kernel Mode Driver, Version 591.74 , NVIDIA Corporation

Highest reported total DPC routine time (%): 0,003261
Driver with highest DPC total execution time: Wdf01000.sys - Kernel Mode Driver Framework Runtime, Microsoft Corporation

Total time spent in DPCs (%) 0,012476

DPC count (execution time <250 µs): 51898
DPC count (execution time 250-500 µs): 0
DPC count (execution time 500-10000 µs): 25
DPC count (execution time 1000-2000 µs): 2
DPC count (execution time 2000-4000 µs): 0
DPC count (execution time >=4000 µs): 0


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REPORTED HARD PAGEFAULTS
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Hard pagefaults are events that get triggered by making use of virtual memory that is not resident in RAM but backed by a memory mapped file on disk. The process of resolving the hard pagefault requires reading in the memory from disk while the process is interrupted and blocked from execution.

NOTE: some processes were hit by hard pagefaults. If these were programs producing audio, they are likely to interrupt the audio stream resulting in dropouts, clicks and pops. Check the Processes tab to see which programs were hit.

Process with highest pagefault count: systemsettings.exe

Total number of hard pagefaults 2708
Hard pagefault count of hardest hit process: 1456
Number of processes hit: 13


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PER CPU DATA
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CPU 0 Interrupt cycle time (s): 1,851819
CPU 0 ISR highest execution time (µs): 4,640
CPU 0 ISR total execution time (s): 0,006498
CPU 0 ISR count: 10879
CPU 0 DPC highest execution time (µs): 1147,440
CPU 0 DPC total execution time (s): 0,385607
CPU 0 DPC count: 35057
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CPU 1 Interrupt cycle time (s): 0,923884
CPU 1 ISR highest execution time (µs): 44,550
CPU 1 ISR total execution time (s): 0,007294
CPU 1 ISR count: 929
CPU 1 DPC highest execution time (µs): 808,640
CPU 1 DPC total execution time (s): 0,023578
CPU 1 DPC count: 3508
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CPU 2 Interrupt cycle time (s): 1,154163
CPU 2 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0,0
CPU 2 ISR total execution time (s): 0,0
CPU 2 ISR count: 0
CPU 2 DPC highest execution time (µs): 451,470
CPU 2 DPC total execution time (s): 0,049662
CPU 2 DPC count: 7479
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CPU 3 Interrupt cycle time (s): 0,732132
CPU 3 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0,0
CPU 3 ISR total execution time (s): 0,0
CPU 3 ISR count: 0
CPU 3 DPC highest execution time (µs): 252,30
CPU 3 DPC total execution time (s): 0,005396
CPU 3 DPC count: 1404
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CPU 4 Interrupt cycle time (s): 0,401003
CPU 4 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0,0
CPU 4 ISR total execution time (s): 0,0
CPU 4 ISR count: 0
CPU 4 DPC highest execution time (µs): 27,830
CPU 4 DPC total execution time (s): 0,000629
CPU 4 DPC count: 183
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CPU 5 Interrupt cycle time (s): 0,441140
CPU 5 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0,0
CPU 5 ISR total execution time (s): 0,0
CPU 5 ISR count: 0
CPU 5 DPC highest execution time (µs): 227,360
CPU 5 DPC total execution time (s): 0,002144
CPU 5 DPC count: 237
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CPU 6 Interrupt cycle time (s): 0,286227
CPU 6 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0,0
CPU 6 ISR total execution time (s): 0,0
CPU 6 ISR count: 0
CPU 6 DPC highest execution time (µs): 20,970
CPU 6 DPC total execution time (s): 0,000944
CPU 6 DPC count: 382
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CPU 7 Interrupt cycle time (s): 0,326983
CPU 7 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0,0
CPU 7 ISR total execution time (s): 0,0
CPU 7 ISR count: 0
CPU 7 DPC highest execution time (µs): 38,10
CPU 7 DPC total execution time (s): 0,000651
CPU 7 DPC count: 50
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CPU 8 Interrupt cycle time (s): 0,202531
CPU 8 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0,0
CPU 8 ISR total execution time (s): 0,0
CPU 8 ISR count: 0
CPU 8 DPC highest execution time (µs): 25,810
CPU 8 DPC total execution time (s): 0,000615
CPU 8 DPC count: 217
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CPU 9 Interrupt cycle time (s): 0,198533
CPU 9 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0,0
CPU 9 ISR total execution time (s): 0,0
CPU 9 ISR count: 0
CPU 9 DPC highest execution time (µs): 33,980
CPU 9 DPC total execution time (s): 0,000301
CPU 9 DPC count: 74
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CPU 10 Interrupt cycle time (s): 0,677967
CPU 10 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0,0
CPU 10 ISR total execution time (s): 0,0
CPU 10 ISR count: 0
CPU 10 DPC highest execution time (µs): 188,890
CPU 10 DPC total execution time (s): 0,004360
CPU 10 DPC count: 965
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CPU 11 Interrupt cycle time (s): 0,713328
CPU 11 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0,0
CPU 11 ISR total execution time (s): 0,0
CPU 11 ISR count: 0
CPU 11 DPC highest execution time (µs): 208,510
CPU 11 DPC total execution time (s): 0,004124
CPU 11 DPC count: 923
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CPU 12 Interrupt cycle time (s): 0,141370
CPU 12 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0,0
CPU 12 ISR total execution time (s): 0,0
CPU 12 ISR count: 0
CPU 12 DPC highest execution time (µs): 11,50
CPU 12 DPC total execution time (s): 0,000032
CPU 12 DPC count: 9
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CPU 13 Interrupt cycle time (s): 0,131112
CPU 13 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0,0
CPU 13 ISR total execution time (s): 0,0
CPU 13 ISR count: 0
CPU 13 DPC highest execution time (µs): 0,0
CPU 13 DPC total execution time (s): 0,0
CPU 13 DPC count: 0
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CPU 14 Interrupt cycle time (s): 0,151674
CPU 14 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0,0
CPU 14 ISR total execution time (s): 0,0
CPU 14 ISR count: 0
CPU 14 DPC highest execution time (µs): 9,620
CPU 14 DPC total execution time (s): 0,000070
CPU 14 DPC count: 24
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CPU 15 Interrupt cycle time (s): 0,141199
CPU 15 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0,0
CPU 15 ISR total execution time (s): 0,0
CPU 15 ISR count: 0
CPU 15 DPC highest execution time (µs): 7,610
CPU 15 DPC total execution time (s): 0,000071
CPU 15 DPC count: 24
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CPU 16 Interrupt cycle time (s): 0,100084
CPU 16 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0,0
CPU 16 ISR total execution time (s): 0,0
CPU 16 ISR count: 0
CPU 16 DPC highest execution time (µs): 24,880
CPU 16 DPC total execution time (s): 0,000206
CPU 16 DPC count: 51
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CPU 17 Interrupt cycle time (s): 0,093887
CPU 17 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0,0
CPU 17 ISR total execution time (s): 0,0
CPU 17 ISR count: 0
CPU 17 DPC highest execution time (µs): 21,440
CPU 17 DPC total execution time (s): 0,000176
CPU 17 DPC count: 28
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CPU 18 Interrupt cycle time (s): 0,111198
CPU 18 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0,0
CPU 18 ISR total execution time (s): 0,0
CPU 18 ISR count: 0
CPU 18 DPC highest execution time (µs): 0,0
CPU 18 DPC total execution time (s): 0,0
CPU 18 DPC count: 0
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CPU 19 Interrupt cycle time (s): 0,08870
CPU 19 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0,0
CPU 19 ISR total execution time (s): 0,0
CPU 19 ISR count: 0
CPU 19 DPC highest execution time (µs): 0,0
CPU 19 DPC total execution time (s): 0,0
CPU 19 DPC count: 0
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CPU 20 Interrupt cycle time (s): 0,145891
CPU 20 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0,0
CPU 20 ISR total execution time (s): 0,0
CPU 20 ISR count: 0
CPU 20 DPC highest execution time (µs): 56,320
CPU 20 DPC total execution time (s): 0,004859
CPU 20 DPC count: 620
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CPU 21 Interrupt cycle time (s): 0,188569
CPU 21 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0,0
CPU 21 ISR total execution time (s): 0,0
CPU 21 ISR count: 0
CPU 21 DPC highest execution time (µs): 37,080
CPU 21 DPC total execution time (s): 0,003748
CPU 21 DPC count: 636
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CPU 22 Interrupt cycle time (s): 0,118772
CPU 22 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0,0
CPU 22 ISR total execution time (s): 0,0
CPU 22 ISR count: 0
CPU 22 DPC highest execution time (µs): 13,40
CPU 22 DPC total execution time (s): 0,000048
CPU 22 DPC count: 5
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CPU 23 Interrupt cycle time (s): 0,103644
CPU 23 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0,0
CPU 23 ISR total execution time (s): 0,0
CPU 23 ISR count: 0
CPU 23 DPC highest execution time (µs): 33,370
CPU 23 DPC total execution time (s): 0,000321
CPU 23 DPC count: 36
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CPU 24 Interrupt cycle time (s): 0,099577
CPU 24 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0,0
CPU 24 ISR total execution time (s): 0,0
CPU 24 ISR count: 0
CPU 24 DPC highest execution time (µs): 4,190
CPU 24 DPC total execution time (s): 0,000008
CPU 24 DPC count: 2
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CPU 25 Interrupt cycle time (s): 0,085292
CPU 25 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0,0
CPU 25 ISR total execution time (s): 0,0
CPU 25 ISR count: 0
CPU 25 DPC highest execution time (µs): 0,0
CPU 25 DPC total execution time (s): 0,0
CPU 25 DPC count: 0
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CPU 26 Interrupt cycle time (s): 0,117752
CPU 26 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0,0
CPU 26 ISR total execution time (s): 0,0
CPU 26 ISR count: 0
CPU 26 DPC highest execution time (µs): 0,0
CPU 26 DPC total execution time (s): 0,0
CPU 26 DPC count: 0
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CPU 27 Interrupt cycle time (s): 0,114792
CPU 27 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0,0
CPU 27 ISR total execution time (s): 0,0
CPU 27 ISR count: 0
CPU 27 DPC highest execution time (µs): 0,0
CPU 27 DPC total execution time (s): 0,0
CPU 27 DPC count: 0
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CPU 28 Interrupt cycle time (s): 0,103936
CPU 28 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0,0
CPU 28 ISR total execution time (s): 0,0
CPU 28 ISR count: 0
CPU 28 DPC highest execution time (µs): 26,250
CPU 28 DPC total execution time (s): 0,000080
CPU 28 DPC count: 11
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CPU 29 Interrupt cycle time (s): 0,084613
CPU 29 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0,0
CPU 29 ISR total execution time (s): 0,0
CPU 29 ISR count: 0
CPU 29 DPC highest execution time (µs): 0,0
CPU 29 DPC total execution time (s): 0,0
CPU 29 DPC count: 0
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CPU 30 Interrupt cycle time (s): 0,108212
CPU 30 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0,0
CPU 30 ISR total execution time (s): 0,0
CPU 30 ISR count: 0
CPU 30 DPC highest execution time (µs): 0,0
CPU 30 DPC total execution time (s): 0,0
CPU 30 DPC count: 0
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CPU 31 Interrupt cycle time (s): 0,086539
CPU 31 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0,0
CPU 31 ISR total execution time (s): 0,0
CPU 31 ISR count: 0
CPU 31 DPC highest execution time (µs): 0,0
CPU 31 DPC total execution time (s): 0,0
CPU 31 DPC count: 0
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CONCLUSION (DEFAULT 6000Mhz No profiles)

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Your system seems to be having difficulty handling real-time audio and other tasks. You may experience drop outs, clicks or pops due to buffer underruns. One or more DPC routines that belong to a driver running in your system appear to be executing for too long. One problem may be related to power management, disable CPU throttling settings in Control Panel and BIOS setup. Check for BIOS updates.

LatencyMon has been analyzing your system for 0:05:13 (h:mm:ss) on all processors.





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SYSTEM INFORMATION

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Computer name: DUKE-GAMING2

OS version: Windows 11, 10.0, version 2009, build: 26100 (x64)

Hardware: MS-7E12, Micro-Star International Co., Ltd.

BIOS: 1.K7

CPU: AuthenticAMD AMD Ryzen 9 7950X 16-Core Processor

Logical processors: 32

Processor groups: 1

Processor group size: 32

RAM: 31849 MB total





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CPU SPEED

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Reported CPU speed (WMI): 4501 MHz

Reported CPU speed (registry): 450 MHz



Note: reported execution times may be calculated based on a fixed reported CPU speed. Disable variable speed settings like Intel Speed Step and AMD Cool N Quiet in the BIOS setup for more accurate results.





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MEASURED INTERRUPT TO USER PROCESS LATENCIES

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The interrupt to process latency reflects the measured interval that a usermode process needed to respond to a hardware request from the moment the interrupt service routine started execution. This includes the scheduling and execution of a DPC routine, the signaling of an event and the waking up of a usermode thread from an idle wait state in response to that event.



Highest measured interrupt to process latency (µs): 947,30

Average measured interrupt to process latency (µs): 18,234710



Highest measured interrupt to DPC latency (µs): 940,0

Average measured interrupt to DPC latency (µs): 8,448712





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REPORTED ISRs

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Interrupt service routines are routines installed by the OS and device drivers that execute in response to a hardware interrupt signal.



Highest ISR routine execution time (µs): 133,10

Driver with highest ISR routine execution time: Wdf01000.sys - Kernel Mode Driver Framework Runtime, Microsoft Corporation



Highest reported total ISR routine time (%): 0,000318

Driver with highest ISR total time: Wdf01000.sys - Kernel Mode Driver Framework Runtime, Microsoft Corporation



Total time spent in ISRs (%) 0,000618



ISR count (execution time <250 µs): 47012

ISR count (execution time 250-500 µs): 0

ISR count (execution time 500-1000 µs): 0

ISR count (execution time 1000-2000 µs): 0

ISR count (execution time 2000-4000 µs): 0

ISR count (execution time >=4000 µs): 0





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REPORTED DPCs

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DPC routines are part of the interrupt servicing dispatch mechanism and disable the possibility for a process to utilize the CPU while it is interrupted until the DPC has finished execution.



Highest DPC routine execution time (µs): 1212,690

Driver with highest DPC routine execution time: nvlddmkm.sys - NVIDIA Windows Kernel Mode Driver, Version 591.74 , NVIDIA Corporation



Highest reported total DPC routine time (%): 0,022371

Driver with highest DPC total execution time: dxgkrnl.sys - DirectX Graphics Kernel, Microsoft Corporation



Total time spent in DPCs (%) 0,060811



DPC count (execution time <250 µs): 511575

DPC count (execution time 250-500 µs): 0

DPC count (execution time 500-10000 µs): 35

DPC count (execution time 1000-2000 µs): 18

DPC count (execution time 2000-4000 µs): 0

DPC count (execution time >=4000 µs): 0





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REPORTED HARD PAGEFAULTS

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Hard pagefaults are events that get triggered by making use of virtual memory that is not resident in RAM but backed by a memory mapped file on disk. The process of resolving the hard pagefault requires reading in the memory from disk while the process is interrupted and blocked from execution.



NOTE: some processes were hit by hard pagefaults. If these were programs producing audio, they are likely to interrupt the audio stream resulting in dropouts, clicks and pops. Check the Processes tab to see which programs were hit.



Process with highest pagefault count: msmpeng.exe



Total number of hard pagefaults 3544

Hard pagefault count of hardest hit process: 1762

Number of processes hit: 34





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PER CPU DATA

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CPU 0 Interrupt cycle time (s): 21,945480

CPU 0 ISR highest execution time (µs): 133,10

CPU 0 ISR total execution time (s): 0,031727

CPU 0 ISR count: 43284

CPU 0 DPC highest execution time (µs): 1212,690

CPU 0 DPC total execution time (s): 5,792435

CPU 0 DPC count: 457094

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CPU 1 Interrupt cycle time (s): 4,862052

CPU 1 ISR highest execution time (µs): 45,460

CPU 1 ISR total execution time (s): 0,030257

CPU 1 ISR count: 3728

CPU 1 DPC highest execution time (µs): 108,070

CPU 1 DPC total execution time (s): 0,059850

CPU 1 DPC count: 10527

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CPU 2 Interrupt cycle time (s): 5,089044

CPU 2 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0,0

CPU 2 ISR total execution time (s): 0,0

CPU 2 ISR count: 0

CPU 2 DPC highest execution time (µs): 349,810

CPU 2 DPC total execution time (s): 0,113058

CPU 2 DPC count: 17307

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CPU 3 Interrupt cycle time (s): 3,712829

CPU 3 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0,0

CPU 3 ISR total execution time (s): 0,0

CPU 3 ISR count: 0

CPU 3 DPC highest execution time (µs): 63,170

CPU 3 DPC total execution time (s): 0,016651

CPU 3 DPC count: 4729

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CPU 4 Interrupt cycle time (s): 4,543771

CPU 4 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0,0

CPU 4 ISR total execution time (s): 0,0

CPU 4 ISR count: 0

CPU 4 DPC highest execution time (µs): 69,60

CPU 4 DPC total execution time (s): 0,006730

CPU 4 DPC count: 1919

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CPU 5 Interrupt cycle time (s): 4,519675

CPU 5 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0,0

CPU 5 ISR total execution time (s): 0,0

CPU 5 ISR count: 0

CPU 5 DPC highest execution time (µs): 57,950

CPU 5 DPC total execution time (s): 0,005803

CPU 5 DPC count: 1591

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CPU 6 Interrupt cycle time (s): 3,919328

CPU 6 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0,0

CPU 6 ISR total execution time (s): 0,0

CPU 6 ISR count: 0

CPU 6 DPC highest execution time (µs): 41,0

CPU 6 DPC total execution time (s): 0,0040

CPU 6 DPC count: 1260

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CPU 7 Interrupt cycle time (s): 3,958527

CPU 7 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0,0

CPU 7 ISR total execution time (s): 0,0

CPU 7 ISR count: 0

CPU 7 DPC highest execution time (µs): 47,260

CPU 7 DPC total execution time (s): 0,002630

CPU 7 DPC count: 655

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CPU 8 Interrupt cycle time (s): 4,082943

CPU 8 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0,0

CPU 8 ISR total execution time (s): 0,0

CPU 8 ISR count: 0

CPU 8 DPC highest execution time (µs): 61,50

CPU 8 DPC total execution time (s): 0,004715

CPU 8 DPC count: 1164

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CPU 9 Interrupt cycle time (s): 4,162316

CPU 9 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0,0

CPU 9 ISR total execution time (s): 0,0

CPU 9 ISR count: 0

CPU 9 DPC highest execution time (µs): 76,440

CPU 9 DPC total execution time (s): 0,003515

CPU 9 DPC count: 870

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CPU 10 Interrupt cycle time (s): 4,668953

CPU 10 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0,0

CPU 10 ISR total execution time (s): 0,0

CPU 10 ISR count: 0

CPU 10 DPC highest execution time (µs): 435,930

CPU 10 DPC total execution time (s): 0,026042

CPU 10 DPC count: 3959

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CPU 11 Interrupt cycle time (s): 4,376101

CPU 11 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0,0

CPU 11 ISR total execution time (s): 0,0

CPU 11 ISR count: 0

CPU 11 DPC highest execution time (µs): 77,520

CPU 11 DPC total execution time (s): 0,021109

CPU 11 DPC count: 4253

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CPU 12 Interrupt cycle time (s): 2,967699

CPU 12 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0,0

CPU 12 ISR total execution time (s): 0,0

CPU 12 ISR count: 0

CPU 12 DPC highest execution time (µs): 34,380

CPU 12 DPC total execution time (s): 0,001085

CPU 12 DPC count: 320

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CPU 13 Interrupt cycle time (s): 3,034263

CPU 13 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0,0

CPU 13 ISR total execution time (s): 0,0

CPU 13 ISR count: 0

CPU 13 DPC highest execution time (µs): 90,850

CPU 13 DPC total execution time (s): 0,003463

CPU 13 DPC count: 241

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CPU 14 Interrupt cycle time (s): 3,471461

CPU 14 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0,0

CPU 14 ISR total execution time (s): 0,0

CPU 14 ISR count: 0

CPU 14 DPC highest execution time (µs): 39,870

CPU 14 DPC total execution time (s): 0,001436

CPU 14 DPC count: 409

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CPU 15 Interrupt cycle time (s): 3,534254

CPU 15 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0,0

CPU 15 ISR total execution time (s): 0,0

CPU 15 ISR count: 0

CPU 15 DPC highest execution time (µs): 75,130

CPU 15 DPC total execution time (s): 0,001473

CPU 15 DPC count: 353

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CPU 16 Interrupt cycle time (s): 0,834594

CPU 16 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0,0

CPU 16 ISR total execution time (s): 0,0

CPU 16 ISR count: 0

CPU 16 DPC highest execution time (µs): 30,180

CPU 16 DPC total execution time (s): 0,000276

CPU 16 DPC count: 54

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CPU 17 Interrupt cycle time (s): 0,837257

CPU 17 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0,0

CPU 17 ISR total execution time (s): 0,0

CPU 17 ISR count: 0

CPU 17 DPC highest execution time (µs): 28,390

CPU 17 DPC total execution time (s): 0,000344

CPU 17 DPC count: 77

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CPU 18 Interrupt cycle time (s): 1,018604

CPU 18 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0,0

CPU 18 ISR total execution time (s): 0,0

CPU 18 ISR count: 0

CPU 18 DPC highest execution time (µs): 34,660

CPU 18 DPC total execution time (s): 0,001056

CPU 18 DPC count: 193

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CPU 19 Interrupt cycle time (s): 0,993322

CPU 19 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0,0

CPU 19 ISR total execution time (s): 0,0

CPU 19 ISR count: 0

CPU 19 DPC highest execution time (µs): 44,170

CPU 19 DPC total execution time (s): 0,000396

CPU 19 DPC count: 77

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CPU 20 Interrupt cycle time (s): 1,280672

CPU 20 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0,0

CPU 20 ISR total execution time (s): 0,0

CPU 20 ISR count: 0

CPU 20 DPC highest execution time (µs): 76,260

CPU 20 DPC total execution time (s): 0,008876

CPU 20 DPC count: 1586

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CPU 21 Interrupt cycle time (s): 1,362143

CPU 21 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0,0

CPU 21 ISR total execution time (s): 0,0

CPU 21 ISR count: 0

CPU 21 DPC highest execution time (µs): 88,620

CPU 21 DPC total execution time (s): 0,013093

CPU 21 DPC count: 1432

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CPU 22 Interrupt cycle time (s): 1,238734

CPU 22 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0,0

CPU 22 ISR total execution time (s): 0,0

CPU 22 ISR count: 0

CPU 22 DPC highest execution time (µs): 38,940

CPU 22 DPC total execution time (s): 0,000618

CPU 22 DPC count: 112

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CPU 23 Interrupt cycle time (s): 1,159975

CPU 23 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0,0

CPU 23 ISR total execution time (s): 0,0

CPU 23 ISR count: 0

CPU 23 DPC highest execution time (µs): 50,640

CPU 23 DPC total execution time (s): 0,000955

CPU 23 DPC count: 171

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CPU 24 Interrupt cycle time (s): 0,712509

CPU 24 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0,0

CPU 24 ISR total execution time (s): 0,0

CPU 24 ISR count: 0

CPU 24 DPC highest execution time (µs): 41,650

CPU 24 DPC total execution time (s): 0,000951

CPU 24 DPC count: 154

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CPU 25 Interrupt cycle time (s): 0,701618

CPU 25 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0,0

CPU 25 ISR total execution time (s): 0,0

CPU 25 ISR count: 0

CPU 25 DPC highest execution time (µs): 35,30

CPU 25 DPC total execution time (s): 0,000644

CPU 25 DPC count: 136

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CPU 26 Interrupt cycle time (s): 1,685659

CPU 26 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0,0

CPU 26 ISR total execution time (s): 0,0

CPU 26 ISR count: 0

CPU 26 DPC highest execution time (µs): 63,350

CPU 26 DPC total execution time (s): 0,001667

CPU 26 DPC count: 317

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CPU 27 Interrupt cycle time (s): 1,893774

CPU 27 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0,0

CPU 27 ISR total execution time (s): 0,0

CPU 27 ISR count: 0

CPU 27 DPC highest execution time (µs): 47,890

CPU 27 DPC total execution time (s): 0,000991

CPU 27 DPC count: 183

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CPU 28 Interrupt cycle time (s): 1,479465

CPU 28 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0,0

CPU 28 ISR total execution time (s): 0,0

CPU 28 ISR count: 0

CPU 28 DPC highest execution time (µs): 74,810

CPU 28 DPC total execution time (s): 0,001956

CPU 28 DPC count: 90

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CPU 29 Interrupt cycle time (s): 1,684154

CPU 29 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0,0

CPU 29 ISR total execution time (s): 0,0

CPU 29 ISR count: 0

CPU 29 DPC highest execution time (µs): 66,550

CPU 29 DPC total execution time (s): 0,001723

CPU 29 DPC count: 113

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CPU 30 Interrupt cycle time (s): 1,066110

CPU 30 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0,0

CPU 30 ISR total execution time (s): 0,0

CPU 30 ISR count: 0

CPU 30 DPC highest execution time (µs): 39,790

CPU 30 DPC total execution time (s): 0,001262

CPU 30 DPC count: 186

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CPU 31 Interrupt cycle time (s): 1,087081

CPU 31 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0,0

CPU 31 ISR total execution time (s): 0,0

CPU 31 ISR count: 0

CPU 31 DPC highest execution time (µs): 55,620

CPU 31 DPC total execution time (s): 0,000801

CPU 31 DPC count: 96

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danvisinic153902d9 said:
Well, idk if my Bios screenshots will help you, it's a too deep drive elitist Overclocker profile for your skills, maybe another time.
Also dualchipset "E" mobo's are not as suitable for ocing 8400+GearOFF memory versus single's x870 or latest 850 2dimm ones.
Better you start with your fabric 6000+CL30 GearEnabled setup, see what's going on, i suspect your issues are coming from these settings being Enabled, so be sure to check them all Disabled
Ez Mode Main Page: Expo Standard
Expo : Disabled
Memory Context Restore: Disabled
Power Down Enable: Disabled
I simulated your timings on my second MSI rig with Tomahawk, and the BIOS options should match your Carbon as well :
1. Overclocking

Take your time, memory training issues are tricky, i spend months of time consuming and hundreds reboots so far, it may not work from day1, maybe you need both subtimings SCL's 5 instead of 4 if too tight and so, also SVM Disabled & Fastboot, Hyper V and Core Isolation Disabled may help, good luck!
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Thank you very much for taking your time for this.

Sadly, the result is as bad as it was before.
There is no difference at all from what I see in my games.
My fps drops are very very big still :(
And I actually don't even need to check my games for this, if I grab some window and move it around fast I just see the movement getting stuck every X seconds.
Memtest running for 30minutes without any issue.
Novabench showing me random results between 5K and 7K+

If I leave everything on default (4800Mhz), my game is staying at 120FPS.
When i change only the speed to ANYTHING ABOVE 4800Mhz. My FPS is wacko even at 5000Mhz....
When I apply the timings provided here, its worse then default 6000Mhz but it does not matter since everything above 4800Mhz makes my system useless no matter what.
When I change it to 4800Mhz with these tighter timings, it is still useless....
The only thing working for me is complete default, I wish ram was not that expensive or I would already buy different ram set (from QVL list)

tighttimings.jpg


I made this video of my fps with these tight timings on 6000Mhz.

And this is 4800Mhz with the tight timings

And this is 4800Mhz with everything on default. THE ONLY THING THAT HAS BEEN WORKING FOR ME

I just have a feeling I am looking at a broken system but the problem is I don't even have a clue what is broken.....
 
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I dont have any faith in the stability of my gaming pc this way.
I just wish I knew at least what is broken or making it so difficult.....

Putting hours into this is just not worth it for me and if I knew what, I might just replace what is holding it back (unless its the Ram because of some AI making it too expensive)
 
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luis.salguero3155702d5 said:
Try something like this, tRFC is too low for corsair ram

View attachment 208908
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But even the default timings (no xmp or expo) on 6000Mhz does not work. And I assume the default is very loose.
But this default works perfect on 4800Mhz.
Should the default work on 6000Mhz?
For start my goal is ONLY GET SOMETHING STABLE ON 6000Mhz And I am not looking for anything tight yet unless only tight will work?????


Btw i appreciate the answer very much, its just that I don't understand why we are all trying to make it tight....
But I am trying what you have anyway. (maybe that is not tight? I dont even know)
If it works someday, I want to provide screenshots of my bios settings for future help.

EDIT:
Tried this one and its exactly the same problem..... but it does not surprise me at all since DEFAULT 6000Mhz DOES NOT WORK.
I also tried this on 4800Mhz and its very unstable.

We are making things worse instead of better.......
So please give me something very loose that will make my ram run stable at 6000Mhz
We can make it more tight after....
 
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Now I have left everything on DEFAULT.
But did some very very small tweaks.

AND IT IS JUST UNSTABLE even on the 4800Mhz without even touching the timings........
But i did change that FCLK and UCLK Div1 Mode!!!!

VERY UNSTABLE
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VERY STABLE
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THE CHANGE FROM VERY UNSTABLE TO VERY STABLE (PROBLEM -> ONLY 4800Mhz STILL )
1768388561516.png


Lets play a game, find the differences???
I don't see much difference in zentimings besides the powerdown from disable to enable.

So I had to try this now.
I changed only FCLK freq and mode, (2000Mhz and MCLK1) -> STABLE

next on top of it
Disable Powerdown and geardown -> NOT EVEN BOOTING INTO WINDOWS BECAUSE ERROR ABOUT MEMORY MANAGEMENT.
1768390393734.png


TRYING TO RESET BIOS TO DEFAULT -> SYSTEM GETS COMPLETELY STUCK -> NEED TO SHORTCUT THE JUMPER FOR CMOS BIOS RESET...... -> reset done, we are making no improvements at all.....
 
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Seems to me that the first problem is that you didn't get the ram off the QVL.. all this time you are spending on trying to fix something that isn't broken. If you really want to fix this buy ram on the QVL. If you can't afford it just run what you have at default. Believe me when I started building my own I was left with spare parts in my closet. I found that checking all parts with the motherboard I was buying to not only save me time but money.
 
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