MSI MAG X870 Tomahawk WiFi and 7800X3D performance.

m3006765584349152a02d1 · Dec 25, 2025

CPU-Z submission for valid infos. https://valid.x86.fr/bz8crp

So this 7800X3D in this board was only hitting 16356 in Cinebench R23, almost every reviewer shows this chip hitting at least 18,000.

RAM is at 6000 CL30 with the tightest timings possible too from the bios selection option. RAM is completely stable, passes 2 hours of Y-Cruncher 2.5B

The CPU in order to get near what reviewers were showing needs -25 C0 and -0.0500mv on core voltage with +200mhz PBO settings. 18,390 R23 score at 71c max.

This sounds utterly ridiculous, but it seems to me reviewers never had a stock CPU being tested?

m3006765584349152a02d1 · Dec 25, 2025

This is with R23 set to high priority and only my Kaspersky internet protection running in the background, I am on 24H2 LTSC Win 11.

TPU are stating that this is their stock result...

AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D Review - The Best Gaming CPU

AMD's Ryzen 7 7800X3D is everything that gamers want: eight fast cores, in a single CCD, with 3D VCache stacked on top at a price point of $450. In our review we can confirm that 7800X3D is indeed the fastest gaming CPU available, beating Intel's 13900K and even the 7950X3D.

www.techpowerup.com

Before this 7800X3D I owned a 14600K which the DDR5 here on the MSI board is from that system and ran at 6800mhz C32 on there, and I was also beating their overclocked 14600K at stock clocks in Y-Cruncher, reviews seem fishy to me.

Notice how they also gain barely anything from their so-called "PBO MAX" ?

Redacted testing methodology to oversell the product.

I was banned from their forum for pointing out the descrepancy. The moderators worded everything in a way that would gain a reaction, all done on purpose.

m3006765584349152a02d1 · Dec 25, 2025

Bigger issue is the believers.

People would create threads on Reddit, Steam forums, various places, mention their 7800X3D not doing what others were doing and get gaslighted into believing they did something wrong, sometimes with a lot of arrogance from the people telling them, because they truly believed reviewers were honest.

7800X3D underperforming R23 at DuckDuckGo

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Any 13K or near that result is due to X3D game mode being enabled, that's a valid config issue from the user.

Whilst it is true the 7800X3D can do the scores, they were overclocking and selling it as a stock result.

My MAX PBO also matches theirs.

Alan J T · Dec 30, 2025

m3006765584349152a02d1 said:
CPU-Z submission for valid infos. https://valid.x86.fr/bz8crp

So this 7800X3D in this board was only hitting 16356 in Cinebench R23, almost every reviewer shows this chip hitting at least 18,000.

Easy to do when all you need is one good run for the review