MSI MPG X670E CARBON WIFI - PCIe slot no longer works after BIOS update

kat13

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Hello :)
I am a new MSI user, I was a recent victim of the Asus Bios issue where the bios basically bricked my Strix. I've had my new machine together for the last 2 weeks using the bios the board came with, 7D70v12. I'm slightly paranoid, after Asus, with updating the bios and would appreciate some opinions. Which Bios would be best for my config, in your opinions? Everything is running well at the moment, using EXPO. Should I even bother to update, normally it's a good thing, or was until recently lol.
I do gaming, Adobe photoshop and a few other things with my rig: I'm also thinking of getting a 4090 FE in the near future. So any advice would be appreciated.
Thank you.

My Specs are as follows:
  • Fractal North Mesh
    MSI X670E CARBON WI-FI
  • AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D 16-Core Processor
  • Corsair iCUE H150i RGB Liquid CPU Cooler
  • 64GB DDR5 - 6000 G.Skill
  • Corsair 1000 Gold Power supply
  • Nvidia 3080 TI FE
 
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Alan J T

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Hello :)
I am a new MSI user, I was a recent victim of the Asus Bios issue where the bios basically bricked my Strix. I've had my new machine together for the last 2 weeks using the bios the board came with, 7D70v12. I'm slightly paranoid, after Asus, with updating the bios and would appreciate some opinions. Which Bios would be best for my config, in your opinions? Everything is running well at the moment, using EXPO. Should I even bother to update, normally it's a good thing, or was until recently lol.
I do gaming, Adobe photoshop and a few other things with my rig: I'm also thinking of getting a 4090 FE in the near future. So any advice would be appreciated.
Thank you.

My Specs are as follows:
  • Fractal North Mesh
    MSI X670E CARBON WI-FI
  • AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D 16-Core Processor
  • Corsair iCUE H150i RGB Liquid CPU Cooler
  • 64GB DDR5 - 6000 G.Skill
  • Corsair 1000 Gold Power supply
  • Nvidia 3080 TI FE
I would say you should update to 7D70v174 Just to make sure CPU has the correct Voltage Protection

I did not have any problems with it And you have nothing listed as a secondary PCIE Device
 

kat13

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I would say you should update to 7D70v174 Just to make sure CPU has the correct Voltage Protection

I did not have any problems with it And you have nothing listed as a secondary PCIE Device
Thank you, Alan

And no, no other pcie devices. I do have 3 m2 drives, which I forgot to post.
 
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Alan J T

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Is the 7D70v174 on the website, the correct one?
Yes it is
 

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Thanks for the fix.
Build 7D70v175Beta PCI_E 3 slot is working with Network Adapter RTL8125B, Also I was getting Ab during soft boot that seems to have went away with G.Skill F5-6000J3636F16GX2-TZ5NR (Samsung) memory slots A2 and B2
 
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Thanks for the fix.
Build 7D70v175Beta PCI_E 3 slot is working with Network Adapter RTL8125B, Also I was getting Ab during boot that seems to have went away with G.Skill F5-6000J3636F16GX2-TZ5NR (Samsung) memory slots A2 and B2
Last time, I tried Samsung sticks with bios v174. It did not work properly. I would validate that with caution. After enabling EXPO, do some memory stress tests or gaming, and then try to reboot.
Build 7D70v175Beta I have run Windows Memory Diagnostics , MemTest64 ran for 10 min, Multiple GPU testing programs ..... Userbenchmark, Superposition all pass with 0 errors, No Ab errors upon restart at anytime.
 

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Build 7D70v175Beta I have run Windows Memory Diagnostics , MemTest64 ran for 10 min, Multiple GPU testing programs ..... Userbenchmark, Superposition all pass with 0 errors, No Ab errors upon restart at anytime.
Good to know that it is fixed. I will wait for the official release of the new bios and try it out.
 

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I am facing a weird issue after updating the BIOS of my X670E Carbon to 7D70v174(Beta version) - sometimes when I boot my system (reboot or turn on after being off for hours) the GPU is only detected at PCI-E 1.1 and can't work to render any game.

It is completely random and sometimes it works perfectly, sometimes it doesn't and I need to try many reboots in order to have the GPU running properly.

I have a Ryzen 9 7950X and a RTX 4090 and honestly, I have no idea what to do here.

I was using the BIOS 7D70v162 before, which doesn't have the new AGESA updates and the "fix" to SOC issues.

Any advice?
 

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I am facing a weird issue after updating the BIOS of my X670E Carbon to 7D70v174(Beta version) - sometimes when I boot my system (reboot or turn on after being off for hours) the GPU is only detected at PCI-E 1.1 and can't work to render any game.

It is completely random and sometimes it works perfectly, sometimes it doesn't and I need to try many reboots in order to have the GPU running properly.

I have a Ryzen 9 7950X and a RTX 4090 and honestly, I have no idea what to do here.

I was using the BIOS 7D70v162 before, which doesn't have the new AGESA updates and the "fix" to SOC issues.

Any advice?
Set PCI_E1 Gen Switch in BIOS from AUTO to Mode 4
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Set PCI_E1 Gen Switch in BIOS from AUTO to Mode 4
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Hey Alan, I did that but it didn't prevent the rig to run at 1.1x.

Like I said in my previous post this defect is intermittent and when it happens sometimes I get a black screen with a few lines on the top of the screen, like artifacts but they are not artifacts. The pc freezes at this point and reboots alone. I need to shut down and wait for to turn the machine back in again.

I noticed this after updating the BIOS and yes, I have considered the chance that the GPU might be faulty and I tested it at another computer without any problems (however I did not test a different GPU in my machine).
 

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@Alan J T to give you a heads-up

I rolled back to the previous BIOS I was using (7D70v162) and the problem is gone. I will wait for the new BIOS. Please add this issue in the list of upcoming fixes. I don't know if it's only with 4090s or any GPU model.
 

kat13

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Good morning,

Alan, I installed the bios you recommended the 7D70v174(Beta version) from the website. The idling temps went from 30ish to 40ish degrees for the AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D 16-Core Processor with the the new Bios. I installed the 4090 after that. I found that windows was trying trying to install drivers and make the onboard graphics the default . I had to disable it, both windows and in the bios and change the boot from IGD to PEG and remove the drivers, did a clean install of Nvidia drivers. Everything seems stable currently. I'll give it a test run on some games soon. Thank you again for your assistance.
 
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Hi @Alan J T
I have a problem. When I go into BIOS settings, TPM is turned off on the main screen. But when I go to the advanced tab, I see it as active.
The problem is: When i turn on windows defender and go into device security WD says: There is no avaible TPM, please check BIOS setting. Can you help me?
 

guigamuc157602db

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@Alan J T About the problem I described with the new BIOS a Portuguese youtuber recorded a video and he showed the same problem with the PCI-E slot after updating his BIOS to one with the new 0.7 AGESA.

In the video, he mentions that the problem only appears when the memories are set to 6000MT/s and over. If he puts the memories to 5600MT/s the problem doesn't occur.

I hope to bring some light to the question and help you guys to work with AMD to find a permanent fix to the issue.

 
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