MSI MPG X670E CARBON WIFI - PCIe slot no longer works after BIOS update

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Hi,

At the launch of AM5 I purchased an MSI MPG X670E CARBON WIFI for myself along with a Ryzen 7 7700X and 2x 32 GB DDR5-5600 RAM. For the first few months it has been running pretty smoothly with no major issues.

However last weekend I decided to update the BIOS to the latest version (7D70v12) and while it offers some nice quality-of-life improvements, it did also introduce one major issue for me. In PCIe slots 2 and 3, I have installed two capture cards: an Elgato Game Capture 4K60 Pro MK.2 and an Elgato Game Capture HD60 Pro, respectively. I use these side-by-side for different purposes. After the BIOS update, the HD60 Pro capture card in the PCI_E3 slot from the Chipset is no longer being detected by Windows. There are no errors, no unknown devices in Device Manager, it's like the card isn't there at all.

I've already tried various things: updating drivers for the motherboard including the Chipset drivers, installing the latest drivers and software for the capture cards, updating Windows 10 to the latest version and installing all optional updates. I also reset the BIOS settings to the defaults and checked with that. None of those things solved the problem. At this point I'm very sure it's not a software or settings problem.

To eliminate the possibility of a failure with the capture card itself, I also swapped around the cards around so that the HD60 Pro is in the PCI_E2 slot. And sure enough: now the HD60 Pro is being detected again while the 4K60 Pro card is no longer visible in Windows. So I'm very certain that the problem is with the PCI_E3 slot (the only slot to come from the Chipset and not from the CPU) and it cannot be a coincidence that the problem appeared immediately after updating the BIOS. My guess is that this BIOS version introduced a bug in the Chipset firmware that causes the attached PCIe slot to fail initialization.

I would like to downgrade the BIOS again to the version that came preinstalled on the motherboard (version 110) just to see if that solves the problem, but that version does not appear to be available for download anywhere.

P.S.: I also noticed that after the BIOS update, the Sleep option disappeared in Windows. This bug is already covered and acknowledged in a different thread on this forum and I've confirmed that disabling A-XMP in the BIOS makes the Sleep option reappear, so this seems to be unrelated to my PCIe slot issue described above.
 
Just flashed the new version. Everything is still working as expected! Though I did noticed a minor bug with PBO, not sure if it was present before. You can apparently modify PBO from two different locations in BIOS, but the available options are inconsistent between each menu. I guess it's not really a bug with the functionality of PBO but more a design flaw than anything else. Note the path in the attached image
 

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So still got that oh well was hoping it would be gone, one is MSI OC the big button and the other is AMD via Advanced setting that one has been pretty well nerfed and I would like to see it gone completely as it does cause some confusion some times.
 
Just flashed the new version. Everything is still working as expected! Though I did noticed a minor bug with PBO, not sure if it was present before. You can apparently modify PBO from two different locations in BIOS, but the available options are inconsistent between each menu. I guess it's not really a bug with the functionality of PBO but more a design flaw than anything else. Note the path in the attached image

Any improvements made to the boot times ?
 
Quote from a german forum
 
Just tried E7D70AMS.141
I cannot report on if it fixed the PCEI_3 issue as I was unable to boot windows with this BIOS.
I ended up stuck in a reboot loop of Blue Screened your computer did not start correctly blah blah windows.
Windows could not even complete a boot of the Automatic Repair with E7D70AMS.141
Attempted CMOS reset and reset of all BIOS settings. Same windows failed to boot.

Attempted to diagnose by removing all peripherals and components except the vidcard and the C: drive. Same result, windows failed to boot.

Restored older BIOS (E7D70AMS.110), windows boots fine. Automatic Repair found no issues and restarted into windows fine.

On a positive I have now mapped m2 drive slots to Windows Drive mappings which I was a bit concerned with after bringing my total drives to 4 drives.
M2_1 = D0 = C:
M2_2 = D3 = F:
M2_3 = D1 = D:
M2_4 = D2 = E:

So this is my current BIOS notes:
E7D70AMS.110 - working PCIE_3
E7D70AMS.120 - Broken PCIE_3
E7D70AMS.124 - Broken PCIE_3
E7D70AMS.132 - Broken PCIE_3
E7D70AMS.141 - Unable to boot Windows 11 or the Automatic Repair properly
 
FWIW, these are the only settings I have ever changed when going into the BIOS:
Press F7 to enable Advanced
Set time if not correct
Post Beep: Enabled
XMP: Enabled

Everything else in the BIOS gets left at stock.
 
Same board here. I can confirm that E7D70AMS.141 would not boot. Everything default (no XMP), it would just blue screen (Windows 11).
However, I didn't have any issue with PCIE3 with E7D70AMS.120 and E7D70AMS.123 that I flashed. I am using intel x540-t2 10GB nic on PCIE3.
Fortunately, I managed to flash back to the previous version, thus I can use the computer.
 
Just tried E7D70AMS.141
I cannot report on if it fixed the PCEI_3 issue as I was unable to boot windows with this BIOS.
I ended up stuck in a reboot loop of Blue Screened your computer did not start correctly blah blah windows.
Windows could not even complete a boot of the Automatic Repair with E7D70AMS.141
Attempted CMOS reset and reset of all BIOS settings. Same windows failed to boot.

Attempted to diagnose by removing all peripherals and components except the vidcard and the C: drive. Same result, windows failed to boot.

Restored older BIOS (E7D70AMS.110), windows boots fine. Automatic Repair found no issues and restarted into windows fine.

On a positive I have now mapped m2 drive slots to Windows Drive mappings which I was a bit concerned with after bringing my total drives to 4 drives.
M2_1 = D0 = C:
M2_2 = D3 = F:
M2_3 = D1 = D:
M2_4 = D2 = E:

So this is my current BIOS notes:
E7D70AMS.110 - working PCIE_3
E7D70AMS.120 - Broken PCIE_3
E7D70AMS.124 - Broken PCIE_3
E7D70AMS.132 - Broken PCIE_3
E7D70AMS.141 - Unable to boot Windows 11 or the Automatic Repair properly
Same board here. I can confirm that E7D70AMS.141 would not boot. Everything default (no XMP), it would just blue screen (Windows 11).
However, I didn't have any issue with PCIE3 with E7D70AMS.120 and E7D70AMS.123 that I flashed. I am using intel x540-t2 10GB nic on PCIE3.
Fortunately, I managed to flash back to the previous version, thus I can use the computer.
Computer won't boot after reboot. (bios 1.41)
OK for now keep using release bios

I will pass this on to my contact.

Insert many bad words I sure as hell am at the moment (_)(*%#@!@@)I(*&#@#W$E)(()*&%$#).
 
Weird that it works for me and not others. Here's a screenshot just to show that I am indeed running 1.41
 

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If you experience a Fail to boot after the Bios update can you please remove all but one stick of memory unplug PSU and hold in the Cmos Reset button for at least 15 seconds and attempt to boot again.
Please note any Debug Codes you get.
 
After a system reset, the computer works but stays in one place with code 15. During Windows 11 operation, codes 47, 48, 46, 52, 51 but mainly 45 and 44 appear.
 
Could indeed be memory related. I'd recommend what Alan suggested to everyone having issues and see if that helps. My memory specs running XMP:
 

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I replaced the frames with AData 4800 and the computer works ok. My frames are G.Skill F5-6000U3636E16G
In previous bios, the computer rebooted ok.
I ordered F5-6000J3238F16GX2-TZ5NR memory AMD EXPO.
 
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I updated to 141 but:
RAM was crashed if enable EXPO, appear blue screen, unable boot Windows (sometimes can boot but then immediately appeared a blue screen).
The boot time still slow, no improvement at all.
I backed older version of bios.
 
the 3rd problem of 141:
the RGB led of CPU radiator is always black
Personally, I find that a good thing but well that is my preference

Can you list your hardware and RGB stuff?
It would be nice to see a list like this
:lookandok:
MSI MAG X570S TOMAHAWK MAX WIFI
Spare - MSI MAG B550 Mortar Wifi
BIOS AMD AGESA-1.2.0.6c
AMD Ryzen 9 5900X
Spare - Radeon RX 5700 Reference
Spare - Radeon RX 6800 Sapphire Pulse.
In Use Radeon RX 6900XT OC ASUS TUF
G.Skill Ripjaws V 64GB F4-3200C16D-16GVK
1TB SPATIUM M480 PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 7000-MBps
2TB NVMe PCIe 3.0 Game Drive 3300-MBps
Four 2TB SATA SSD and Two 4TB SATA SSD in Raid 0
ICY DOCK 6 Bay 2.5” SATA HDD/SSD Hot Swap Cage-MB326SP-B
Enermax D.F Series 850W PSU
Spare PSU MSI MPG A1000G
Spare- CPU cooler MSI MAG CORELIQUID P240
BeQuiet Silent Loop 2 280mm
Windows 10 Pro
Version 22H2
OS build 19045.2311
Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 120.2212.4190.0
 
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