MSI P965 Neo - Bios?

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I'm running bios version 1.6.62 with the motherboard MS-7235 aka. MSI P965 Neo. E6600 @ 2,7 GHz (300x9) FSB:DRAM 1:1.
Corsair Value S. PC5300 DDR2 2048MB Kit w/two matched Value Select 1024MB running at 600 Mhz. Dual Channel.

450W PSU.
3V 3,31V
+5 5,33V
+12 11,96V
Vcore is at 1.325V by default.
vdimm at 1.9V

Stock cooler idle 39 degrees and 59 at load with orthos prime95 for dual core.

That should be enough of system information?

The bug I have! If I take my FSB to 301 it just dies. I have to reset bios in order to make the computer work again. 300+ and it's gone. I've tried BIOS and Windows clocking. The only difference is that in Windows I don't have to reset bios  :lol_anim:

I've disabled Speedstep, C1E, Spread Spectrum, HPET and I'm running my memories at "auto" timers. I've tried with manual there but same problem. The memories run at 4-4-4-12 533mhz in bios but in Windows it shows 1:1. So 600Mhz.
 
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BOSSKILLER said:
what "bugs"? explain what problem you have got? and provide full system specification as well, read Moan Guide
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heheh..how "waht bugs"?!?!  :-P)

If you read C2D Forum, all the BIOS for P965 Neo...from the first to the last 1.6 have all the same critical problem and bug:

THE TIMINGS SET MANUALLY IN BIOS ARE NO THE TRUE TIMINGS THEN ARE LOAD!!! IF YOU SET CAS 5 IN BIOS, TRUE CAS IS 3, IF YOU SET CAS 4 TRUE IS 4, IF YOU SET CAS 3 SYSTEM NEVER START. SAME THING FOR TRAS. THIS FOR ME AND ALL PEOPLE WHIT THIS MB, AND MAYBE FOR P965 PLATINUM ALSO!

We try to contact some moderator or someone for ask this problems at MSI engineers, but noboby han never answer.

Bye bye
 
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wconstantine said:
I'm running bios version 1.6.62 with the motherboard MS-7235 aka. MSI P965 Neo. E6600 @ 2,7 GHz (300x9) FSB:DRAM 1:1.
Corsair Value S. PC5300 DDR2 2048MB Kit w/two matched Value Select 1024MB running at 600 Mhz. Dual Channel.

450W PSU.
3V 3,31V
+5 5,33V
+12 11,96V
Vcore is at 1.325V by default.
vdimm at 1.9V

Stock cooler idle 39 degrees and 59 at load with orthos prime95 for dual core.

That should be enough of system information?

The bug I have! If I take my FSB to 301 it just dies. I have to reset bios in order to make the computer work again. 300+ and it's gone. I've tried BIOS and Windows clocking. The only difference is that in Windows I don't have to reset bios  :lol_anim:

I've disabled Speedstep, C1E, Spread Spectrum, HPET and I'm running my memories at "auto" timers. I've tried with manual there but same problem. The memories run at 4-4-4-12 533mhz in bios but in Windows it shows 1:1. So 600Mhz.
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This is not a bug....it's normal, Intel are not like AMD that have divider in CPU....the low value for ram it's 533, that it mean at default memory go at 266 like FSB at 266. RAM:FSB = 1:1.  RAM 667 are RAM:FSB = 5:4 . RAM 800 are RAM:FSB = 3:2 .

Probably you have not understand this and like functions intel system and you think is a bug! :p
 
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BlueKnight said:
This is not a bug....it's normal, Intel are not like AMD that have divider in CPU....the low value for ram it's 533, that it mean at default memory go at 266 like FSB at 266. RAM:FSB = 1:1.  RAM 667 are RAM:FSB = 5:4 . RAM 800 are RAM:FSB = 3:2 .

Probably you have not understand this and like functions intel system and you think is a bug! :p
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Could you explain it a little more how I should have it when I wanna run 333 Mhz FSB and the memory synced with the fsb?

And Bosskiller. I just stands 1.6.62 at the bios version when I start the computer. I've tested the original one and the newest (current). If I change in bios to 300+ FSB then it varies from complete dropping dead and hanging when starting windows/bios.

Note: This is MSI P965 Neo not MSI P965 Neo-F motherboard. Model 7235 not Model 7235-010. Although I did order Neo-F... :p
 
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BOSSKILLER said:
what versions are already tested and contain messed timings? 16A,16D,16F?
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1.5 official, all 1.6 Beta, 1.6 official....

and i have hear that whit before versions there is the same problem.
 
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wconstantine said:
Could you explain it a little more how I should have it when I wanna run 333 Mhz FSB and the memory synced with the fsb?

And Bosskiller. I just stands 1.6.62 at the bios version when I start the computer. I've tested the original one and the newest (current). If I change in bios to 300+ FSB then it varies from complete dropping dead and hanging when starting windows/bios.

Note: This is MSI P965 Neo not MSI P965 Neo-F motherboard. Model 7235 not Model 7235-010. Although I did order Neo-F... :p
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If in bios you set your memory as DDR2 667, and then you put your FSB to 300... 300 x 5 : 4 = 375MHz, and your memory are 333 not 375MHz .... you should set in bios ram at 533 for have 1:1. FSB @ 300 = RAM 300MHz

Bye
 
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BlueKnight said:
I think of yes seeing test result... but i am not sure becuase the 1.6beta has the problems that CPU-Z and no any other pograms can't read frequency and CAS value.
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yep was tested seems to be old one. well must be patient. as you can see MSI is working on it, guess new official version will arrive soon.
 
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wconstantine said:
Note: This is MSI P965 Neo not MSI P965 Neo-F motherboard. Model 7235 not Model 7235-010. Although I did order Neo-F... :p
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But are you sure that there is a difference between Neo and Neo-F?! Are not the same thing?!

I have 2 of this motherboard and all are P956 Neo 1.1, but on label on box there is write Neo-F. I think are the same thing.

Bye
 
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BOSSKILLER said:
yep was tested seems to be old one. well must be patient. as you can see MSI is working on it, guess new official version will arrive soon.
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Ok, but you are sure that someone of MSI read this forum? I hear that all stuff of thsi forum are user not MSI employee.

I am sure there are working on it, but is the 5 version of new BIOS that exit whit this error.

Bye and tnk
 
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other bug:

gringooos said:
to illustrate the history of "straps", I post documents available in a belgium site: TT-Hardware.com

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if you speack french, i put the link to the news: http://www.tt-hardware.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=9735

I think that the probl?me of the motherboard, is the configuration of the "straps", when you put an fsb>333Mhz, you exceed the specification of the chipset P965.
For that, you must change the cooler of the notherbridge if you want use an fsb over 340Mhz.
I think that this can damage the chipset.
If MSI don't want an hecatomb, they have to fix this issue.
For the moment, the limitation of 500Mhz indicated in the bios is a joke....

PS: documents are made whit the Asus P5B using the same chipset that the MSI P965 NEO-F...
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I don't think it's a bug, but probably depends also motherboard structure and i think this feature can be add only whit particular layout construction.

I don't think we need new cooler etc etc...because it's generally a cold chipset i can see...and me whitout any problem i take 392MHz of FSB.

Bye
 
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