MSI PRO B760-P WiFi DDR4 ProSeries includes TPM?

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matt.savar152b02d2

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I'm building a new computer to upgrade to Windows 11. One of the requirements is TPM 2.0. Does this motherboard (MSI PRO B760-P WiFi DDR4 ProSeries) have that built in or do I have to buy another part for it?
 
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Yes, all included. You never have to buy a TPM module for any board, except in very rare circumstances where some software explicitly requires a discrete TPM module. Otherwise, on modern enough boards, you will have an fTPM 2.0 included (firmware TPM), which is enough for everything. And on boards that are too old (let's say older than ten years), they will never be TPM-2.0-capable, because they can only do the older TPM 1.2 no matter what you try (a TPM 2.0 module won't be recognized on there).

On your board, you should update the BIOS to the latest version before installing Windows, then you're good to go.
 
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Thank you. Now the big question. I am putting a 14th Gen cpu in ot. Will I be able to use that or will it need a bios update? How can I update the bios if I have no cou to put in?
 
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This is basically a low-end board, at the most i'd put a 14th gen i5 in it. So if it's an i7/i9 you're looking at, those are absolute monsters, this board wouldn't quite cut the mustard.

Being a lower-end board model, it also lacks the crucial Flash BIOS Button. So if the CPU doesn't work, you'd first have to put in a CPU that does, update the BIOS, and then you can use the 14th gen. Big hassle.

First, i'd say, let's have the full list of your components you plan to use, exact models of everything including PSU. Then we'll check if it's all a good match or not.
 
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Ha, I should have done this first. :-)
  • CPU: i5-14600KF (don't need the KF but it was cheaper when I bought it)
  • GPU: RTX 5050 (again, cheaper, and will not be using it for gaming)
  • PSU: Corsair RM650e
  • Memory: 16GB GSkill Ripjaws 3200 DDR4 (because of the motherboard, and cost)
  • SSD: Samsung 990 EVO PLUS 1TB
I have other SATA SSDs I will be putting into it and an existing case/fans. I really wanted to keep the motherboard reasonably priced as I'm not using this for gaming, just music composing and playing around with 3d (blender, etc, just at hobby level).
 
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matt.savar152b02d2 said:
  • CPU: i5-14600KF (don't need the KF but it was cheaper when I bought it)
  • GPU: RTX 5050 (again, cheaper, and will not be using it for gaming)
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If you don't game, i wouldn't bother getting a graphics card, i'd get the regular CPU model (not the -F one) and use the iGPU (unless you use more than two monitors, or need CUDA acceleration or something).

But that all seems to be matching decently otherwise. No component completely outmatches another or anything like that. So just put the CPU in and see if it runs. If you can enter the BIOS, update it first thing.

What's your CPU cooler? The 14600K can go up to 170~180W, but if you don't plan on a lot of continuous full load, you're probably still ok here. Additionally, do step 1) of my Guide: How to set good power limits in the BIOS and reduce the CPU power draw. And even step 2), but probably only down to Mode 9 or 10 until the performance will take a nosedive, which would be normal on a B-series chipset board, you're a bit limited with that (see the relevant section there).
 
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Thanks again. So my only hope here is that the bios on the board I get was already updated since I don't have another processor to put in it. The bios with the 14th generation came out in 2023 so there is a chance I suppose. There isn't a way to tell before I open everything up is there? Like a certain serial number or something like that?
 
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I'd just try it regardless. The boards currently sold should support 14th gen with the factory BIOS already. Of course, that might still be a bit dated and lack some all-important microcode fixes, that's why the latest BIOS version has to go on rather quickly.
 
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@citay , I just wanted to let you know everything worked out great. I was able to get good performance out of the CPU with this motherboard.

Cinebench: mid 24400-ish on a 5 minute test.
Temps: never above ~75-80 or so during cinebench, all other times it's quite a but lower
Voltage: never pulls more than 150-170V under full load, but mostly much lower

I used your guide to changing the power draw and cpu limits and it all works great. No throttling on any metric.

Thank for your help. Maybe others could squeeze more performance out of it, but I'm satisfied. :-)
 
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Hello, I have the same Motheberoard and a core i7 14700f with 32gb of ram and a 1060 gpu (for now) a 5070 is coming this christmas,

I have some issues on the windows update, it keeps saying that my device is not up to date, that it is missing "important security and quality fixes" but does not download or install anything, did that happen to you? I also can't install windows 11, the windows update does not show the "install" button... any ideas? thank you

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Well, Windows 10 support has ended, that's why you're missing important updates. Unless you enroll in the extended updates for one year, there's nothing new coming as far as the monthly security updates. But of course, you should long be on Win11 by now.

As for installing Win11 from within Win10, get the Windows 11 Installation Assistant from https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows11

This will guide you through everything. It will require the compatibility check, if there's any bad news from that, post another screenshot of it. To take a proper screenshot, press PRNT SCR (two keys above DEL), or launch the Snipping Tool.

Before all that, I would make sure of two things:
1) That the latest BIOS version is installed.
2) That you check if your 1060 needs this applied: https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/nv-uefi-update-x64/
 
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citay said:
Well, Windows 10 support has ended, that's why you're missing important updates. Unless you enroll in the extended updates for one year, there's nothing new coming as far as the monthly security updates. But of course, you should long be on Win11 by now.

As for installing Win11 from within Win10, get the Windows 11 Installation Assistant from https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows11

This will guide you through everything. It will require the compatibility check, if there's any bad news from that, post another screenshot of it. To take a proper screenshot, press PRNT SCR (two keys above DEL), or launch the Snipping Tool.

Before all that, I would make sure of two things:
1) That the latest BIOS version is installed.
2) That you check if your 1060 needs this applied: https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/nv-uefi-update-x64/
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thank you, I know W10 support has ended, I have enrolled in the extended, but it doesn't change a thing, you are seeing that message there because this is a fresh clean install on this computer, but I can do it, it will change nothing, for the other stuff, the compatibility check is ok, the components are compatible, already check the bios version, it is the most updated yes, I did not check the 1060, will do that, thank you

After enrolling on the extended updates:

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Oh, a fresh install? Of Win10? Then why didn't you do a fresh install of Win11 in the first place? You can do it as posted under 3) here.
 
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Since I was using Windows 10 before I just did the install and was planning to "upgrade" afterwards, waay more easy.... at first... now I see it is not that the case... jaja, I will try do a fresh W11 install on the weekend, thank you
 
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If you do a fresh install anyway, go right to Win11. If you want to take over an existing Win10 installation and upgrade to Win11 from within it, you can do that with the "Windows 11 Installation Assistant" I linked earlier, you don't have to depend on Windows Update offering you Win11.
 
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citay said:
Oh, a fresh install? Of Win10? Then why didn't you do a fresh install of Win11 in the first place?
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Some people have a good reason to stay on Windows 10. All this new "AI" stuff which comes with Windows 11 is IMHO a security nightmare.
You lose more and more control over your own device.
Just my two cents.
Have a nice day.
 
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Adrian the Saxon said:
Some people have a good reason to stay on Windows 10. All this new "AI" stuff which comes with Windows 11 is IMHO a security nightmare.
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I use ExplorerPatcher and OpenShellMenu to make Win11 look and feel like I want it to, and ShutUp10++ to disable telemetry and AI functions. With the latter, you can make Win11 as "dumb" as Win7, basically. All data collecting and advanced functions can be completely disabled.
 
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citay said:
I use ExplorerPatcher and OpenShellMenu to make Win11 look and feel like I want it to, and ShutUp10++ to disable telemetry and AI functions. With the latter, you can make Win11 as "dumb" as Win7, basically. All data collecting and advanced functions can be completely disabled.
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We are both "advanced" users. For you and me this is not a problem but for the "normal" user this is a problem.
And who says that MS does not revert your settings during the next update?
In my opinion, all of that should be optional and disabled by default.

And if I need a third-party tool to configure my operating system, then something is fundamentally wrong.
Turning on and off this settings should be as easy as switching from light to dark mode.
Sure other OS have the same or other problems but Windows is the worst.

To be clear Windows was a good OS for many years but the new development has the wrong direction. I know Windows since the days of 3.1 and have used most of the versions.
An "agentic" OS? This can only be a joke.

Have a nice evening.
 
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